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February 25, 2013, 03:47:24 PM
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February 25, 2013, 03:55:19 PM
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Seul deux trois personnes on pu mettre la main sur le premier, quand au second personne n'a pu encore y toucher ... Smiley

Si tu souhaite acheter un Asic chez butterfly, ce sera au minimum pour Avril (d'après eux, puisque il serviront en premier les première commandes).

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February 27, 2013, 11:41:27 AM
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Salut, je sais pas si les chiffres que tu donnes sont bons mais le bitforce butterfly consomme 60 watts, soit 10 fois moins que l'autre pour environ le même nombre de hashes/secondes ...
Donc, suivant tes chiffres, le bitforce consommera 10 fois moins d'éléctricité, comme j'ai pû lire que c'était sur ce point (le prix du kilowatt/h) que l'on était plus competitif que d'autres (le prix des becanes étant le même partout dans le monde), le bitforce me paraît 10 fois plus compétitif que l'autre....
J'ai peut-être tout faut ne comprenant pas toute les subtilité du système bitcoin...
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April 05, 2013, 02:49:42 PM
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"Chez butterfly labs le modèle à 60GH/s est remplacé par un de 50GH/s au double du prix du 1er modèle !"

Honnêtement j'ai deux hypothèse :

* je pense que leur puce asic chauffe plus que prévu et qu'il n'arrive pas à bien les refroidir. D'après moi ils ont sûrement revu à la baisse la fréquence, et doublé le nombre de puces pour se rapprocher des specs initiales

* Il manque de cash, trop de personne ont annulé leur précommande, et pour rembourser, bah ils montent les prix ...

L'une n'exclue pas l'autre Smiley

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April 06, 2013, 06:21:54 AM
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Pour avalon, ils n'acceptent que les bitcoins, je serais même pas surpris qu'ils payent leur fournisseur (location de materiel, matiere premiere) en bitcoin, et je pense que c'est pour eux la meilleur façon d'accepter des paiements pour vendre du matériel, les paiements vers et depuis la chine pose pas mal de soucis (ça leur évite probablement un tas de tax).

Et comme ils acceptent les paiements qu'en bitcoin, je pense qu'ils preferent se reserver une marge sur la bulle actuelle.

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April 06, 2013, 07:44:07 AM
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Voici l'explication donnée par le créateur d'Avalon Dans un article très intéressant :http://www.bitcoinrumors.com/2013/03/27/engineering-the-bitcoin-gold-rush-an-interview-with-yifu-guo-creator-of-the-first-asic-based-miner/

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Batch one was $1,300 and batch two was $1,500. At a cost of 75 BTC, batch three units effectively cost ~$5000. What gives?

Well, one of cofounders commented on that, and the main thing is trust, which, since the beginning of the bitcoin movement, has always been the most valuable resource above all else. The first batch could have been a potential scam, so we had to price it at $1,300 (which is the same price that Butterfly Labs has been offering).
We’ve had plenty of opportunities, such as keeping the technology to ourselves and simply mining, but that was never our intention. So how much is that trust worth? We think it’s worth $5000 by itself. Beyond that, the calculation is based on the current difficulty rate so that break-even point occurs in a month. Which, by the way, as an investment vehicle is a fairly unique proposition. It should be mentioned also that the cost of the batch two was also 75 bitcoins. That the exchange rate has moved is out of our control.

And in the end, this was never what we wanted. If we wanted to maximize our profit, we could charge much more. For us, this has always been an ideal-oriented problem, not a business-oriented one. This is one of the primary reasons we aren’t clearly in the black.

We’re lucky that we held onto the second batch of bitcoins because if it weren’t for the appreciation, we would be very, very deep in the red, which ultimately still isn’t that big of a deal. But batch three now gives the project monetary sustainability, especially since we need to purchase an SMT machine (a pick-and-place machine for mounting devices onto circuit boards) to produce our generation two chipset.


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