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May 29, 2014, 05:17:10 PM
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Mental health is a problem
gangs are a problem
failure to enforce existing laws is a problem
lack of education is a problem
failures of parents is a problem

majority of gun crimes are done by criminals and illegal weapons, the majority of what's left is suicides, the majority of what's left of that is accidents. You aren't going to do shit about that with new gun laws and restrictions because the current ones are already in place and just ignored.
Other nations have issues with gangs and mental healthcare, but they don't have the same amount of gun violence as the United States.
It seems like you're either denying reality that gun violence in a problem in the USA, or you're making an awful lot of assumptions about the term gun violence

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May 29, 2014, 05:20:43 PM
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Mental health is a problem
gangs are a problem
failure to enforce existing laws is a problem
lack of education is a problem
failures of parents is a problem

majority of gun crimes are done by criminals and illegal weapons, the majority of what's left is suicides, the majority of what's left of that is accidents. You aren't going to do shit about that with new gun laws and restrictions because the current ones are already in place and just ignored.
Other nations have issues with gangs and mental healthcare, but they don't have the same amount of gun violence as the United States.
It seems like you're either denying reality that gun violence in a problem in the USA, or you're making an awful lot of assumptions about the term gun violence
not denying it at all, I'm not using guns as an excuse to avoid the real problems. Yes other countries have issues with gangs and mental health and the deal with them better than we do as well.
Also it would be far more effective, easier and cheaper to go after the deaths by car since you aren't dealing with criminals that already ignore existing laws. Not sure why that's not an issue.

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May 29, 2014, 05:22:42 PM
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I want your home isolated, inspected, videotaped. Chicago is retarded, nothing new there.
 politicians only care about violence committed by white people or people they can claim are white (such as the new categories of WHITE hispanic and WHITE asian). Violence committed by full minority category Americans are swept under the rug and blamed on WHITE people anyway.

What are you talking about? the reason why the focus is kind of shifting is because Black people are considered suspects without doing a thing (I'm white but this is true) a Black person is controlled by the police way more often than his white compatriot and this happening here in europe as well, this is the reason of the shift in message, but the reality is still the same.

Anyway if you want to stop weapons you just do like in other countries make them illegale ! that will not prevent crime but it will reduce their amount and the danger factor attributed to them
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May 29, 2014, 05:24:57 PM
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Mental health is a problem
gangs are a problem
failure to enforce existing laws is a problem
lack of education is a problem
failures of parents is a problem

majority of gun crimes are done by criminals and illegal weapons, the majority of what's left is suicides, the majority of what's left of that is accidents. You aren't going to do shit about that with new gun laws and restrictions because the current ones are already in place and just ignored.
Other nations have issues with gangs and mental healthcare, but they don't have the same amount of gun violence as the United States.
It seems like you're either denying reality that gun violence in a problem in the USA, or you're making an awful lot of assumptions about the term gun violence
not denying it at all, I'm not using guns as an excuse to avoid the real problems. Yes other countries have issues with gangs and mental health and the deal with them better than we do as well.
Also it would be far more effective, easier and cheaper to go after the deaths by car since you aren't dealing with criminals that already ignore existing laws. Not sure why that's not an issue.
How would you suggest "going after the deaths by car?"

Kuroman I can see your point on that I apologize

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May 29, 2014, 05:31:24 PM
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1st, no more car manufacturers. We have government mandated designs only. 1 coupe, 1 sedan, 1 pickup and 1 suv/van all based on the same drivetrain. You can have multiple car companies make them but they would all be identical except color. they would be cheap to make and easy to repair.

HP limit at 75. 3 or 4 cyl engines only.
speed limiters for all vehicles except emergency vehicles at 75mph max
gps controlled speed limiting so you can't go over the speed limit
cellphone blockers in the car
no radio
breathalyzer for all vehicles
stricter penalties
raise starting age for drivers licenses
institute European testing requirements/punishments
no more racing sports, too dangerous and bad for environment.

that's a good start. would cut down greatly on deaths AND would also cut down on the pollution. win win.

hell, it would also cut down on envy between classes since poor and rich would be driving the same thing. win win win.

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May 29, 2014, 05:38:28 PM
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What about this then?

Eliminate(ban) all private vehicles. Everyone must use public transit. For rural areas, there would need to be a gathering place for people to go to with either bicycles or cross country skis in order to catch the public transit.

Only law enforcement and a limited number of commercial vehicles as well allowed on the road. Commercial vehicles limited to 30 mph.

The rationale is that no one should feel they need a car. Only police and government officials should have them. This would dramatically cut the number of deaths, and the amount of pollution. It would be patriotic and environmentally friendly at the same time. And of course eliminate all motorsports.

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May 29, 2014, 05:54:54 PM
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that sadly is hard to achieve, and it's not about regulation, lobbying by car manufacturers in this case will not allow such a thing, but the good part is that in some area, like in metropolis using cars is hell and people tends to use public transports more and more to commute to work as it is basically impossible to get there during rush hours on cars, and some cities are taxing heavily city center circulation.

As for car accident, autonomous/self driving cars will solve a lot of these issues, I'm positive that in a decade to two road car accident will be reduced thanks to self driving and accident avoiding technologies (while the number of cars circulating keeps increasing)
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