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May 30, 2014, 02:41:58 AM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUdwMlPO.jpg&t=665&c=MMuAekNBhkTmuQ) The husband of Farzana Parveen, the Pakistani woman stoned to death for refusing to participate in an arranged marriage, told CNN he killed his first wife so he could marry Parveen. Authorities said the first wife was killed six years ago. “I wanted to send a proposal to Farzana, so I killed my wife,” Mohammad Iqbal said Thursday in an interview with CNN. Zulfiqar Hameed, district inspector general for the Punjab police, said Iqbal’s son from the first marriage alerted police to the slaying six years ago. Iqbal was arrested but later released on bail because his son forgave him, Hameed said. The son, Aurengzeb, who is in his 20s, confirmed his father’s statements to CNN. He said his father served a year in jail. Parveen, who was three months pregnant, was beaten to death with bricks Tuesday in the eastern city of Lahore by a group of about 20 people, including her brothers, father and cousin, police said. Police have arrested Parveen’s father and are searching for the other killers in this all-too-common crime. http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/29/world/meast/pakistani-honor-killing/index.html?hpt=hp_c2---------------------------------------------------------- The real war on women...
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May 30, 2014, 02:43:10 AM |
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damn some people are really deluded.. is divorce generally prohibited in their culture/religion?
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May 30, 2014, 03:14:36 AM Last edit: June 26, 2014, 05:47:19 AM by svein |
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What is wrong with this people mind.
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May 30, 2014, 04:05:33 AM |
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I try to be non judgmental about other countries and they way they do things but this is horrific. I bet they were shouting "god is great" as they carried out this murder.
Sick bastards.
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May 30, 2014, 01:33:22 PM |
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Let the Pakistanis do whatever they want. I don't even want to think about them. Let's just make sure that the Pakistani migrants living in the Western nations don't bring their stone age customs to the host nations. There are quite a lot of them in the EU. In the England alone, they number more than 1 million. Many more in Norway, Netherlands.etc.
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May 30, 2014, 01:40:24 PM |
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Their laws are seriously twisted. A wife killer can be out of prison on bail if their son forgave him? That's a life imprisonment in developed countries ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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May 30, 2014, 02:01:18 PM |
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So... The husband has to say "I divorce you" three times. It has to be done over a certain period of time (months) and they have to try some couseling to save the mariage. Wow, what an unholy PITA, no wonder he just killed the first wife.
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May 30, 2014, 02:54:46 PM |
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Their laws are seriously twisted. A wife killer can be out of prison on bail if their son forgave him? That's a life imprisonment in developed countries ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) There is also something like blood money. A murderer can bribe the family of the victim, and can walk away scotfree in a matter of few days (probably free to kill again and again).
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May 30, 2014, 03:25:07 PM Last edit: May 30, 2014, 05:46:31 PM by Balthazar |
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So... The husband has to say "I divorce you" three times. It has to be done over a certain period of time (months) and they have to try some couseling to save the mariage. Wow, what an unholy PITA, no wonder he just killed the first wife. Their laws are seriously twisted. A wife killer can be out of prison on bail if their son forgave him? That's a life imprisonment in developed countries ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) There is also something like blood money. A murderer can bribe the family of the victim, and can walk away scotfree in a matter of few days (probably free to kill again and again). This system was good for a historical period, which is related to Muhammad's life. But for now some of these laws are obsolete and even senseless. That's the reason why countries like Islamic Republic of Iran are never trying to implement them without modification.
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May 30, 2014, 03:58:44 PM |
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So... The husband has to say "I divorce you" three times. It has to be done over a certain period of time (months) and they have to try some couseling to save the mariage. Wow, what an unholy PITA, no wonder he just killed the first wife. More importantly: "If husband asks for divorce and intercourse has occurred, he pays full dowry." Well, he invented a more cost effective way to divorce.
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May 30, 2014, 08:26:35 PM |
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So... The husband has to say "I divorce you" three times. It has to be done over a certain period of time (months) and they have to try some couseling to save the mariage. Wow, what an unholy PITA, no wonder he just killed the first wife. Totally wrong The tree time divorce (not saying "I divorce you" this part was only true when marriage was not registered and marriage was done with witness, the same was for divorce and the "I divorce you" has to be said in front a certain amount of witness we are talking 7 century or so laws here) has nothing to do with divorce. In Islam when you divorce it's done, but like in modern civil law, there is a period of time before the divorce is effective to leave a room for reconciliation (30days I think) once this period is over they are free to do what they want. As for the tree time divorce rule is about reconciliation, once you divorce and reconciliation 2 times the third time you divorce there is no reconciliation possible and the divorce is definitive and you can't remarry the person you've divorced, unless they married someone else. This guy is a psychopath and need to be punished accordingly, sometimes in some culture divorcing is a kind of taboo and I think that's might be one reason why he resorted to such thing, but I'm just theory crafting here I don't know about Pakistani culture, but a part of it doesn't seem that good to say the least, I hope someone correct me if they have the correct knowledge about this point (since in Islam as explained above, Divorce can happen without major issues)
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May 30, 2014, 08:38:26 PM |
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here are Muslims in India and he is stating that the sex ratio is worse among the Muslims in India than among the Hindus. India has both Muslims and Hindus. Pakistan, however, has almost no non-Muslims. That is because in countries where the predominant religion is Islam, for some reason, people of other religions seem to leave over time...
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May 31, 2014, 02:09:50 AM |
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That is because in countries where the predominant religion is Islam, for some reason, people of other religions seem to leave over time...
All over the globe, it is a general rule that the Muslim population increases faster than the neighboring non-Muslim population. Muslims are making use of the demographic weapon to take over regions previously dominated by other religious groups. The examples are: 1. Bangladesh (Hindu majority until 1880) 2. Kosovo (Serb majority until the beginning of the 20th century) 3. Macedonia (process underway) 4. Kashmir (Hindu majority until 18th century) 5. Lebanon (Christian majority until 1970)
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May 31, 2014, 02:36:34 AM |
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Wow, to actually have her kin involved in beating her to death w/ bricks is just downright unbelievable to me. I mean, a dying dog gets a death shot or a bullet in the head but her they just crush bones in such a dated and uncivilized manner. If there's such a thing as mortal sin, they all committed it and shall forever be damned to hell.
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May 31, 2014, 01:55:52 PM |
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Wow, to actually have her kin involved in beating her to death w/ bricks is just downright unbelievable to me. I mean, a dying dog gets a death shot or a bullet in the head but her they just crush bones in such a dated and uncivilized manner. If there's such a thing as mortal sin, they all committed it and shall forever be damned to hell.
..Polar opposite: She is the sinner and she will go to hell, according to her brother, cousins, father, etc, not them. They did good. It does not matter how leftist rightist believer atheist anarchist you are: this, is the definition of inhumanity.
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May 31, 2014, 03:16:52 PM Last edit: May 31, 2014, 04:00:52 PM by Trading |
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We see similar practices in India. The cause seems to be the dowry practice. Some men kill their wife to be able to merry again and receive another dowry from the family of the bride.
But this practice has its days numbered. With growing differences between men and women available, because of the practice of aborting female fetus, soon it will be the men that will have to pay a dowry to find a women to merry.
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May 31, 2014, 03:22:32 PM |
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But this practice has its days numbered. With growing differences between men and women available, because of the practice of aborting female fetus, soon it will be the men that would have to pay a dowry to find a women to merry.
Yes... sex ratio is going down in India and China, as a result of the preference for male children. Sex ration has reached alarming proportions in certain districts like Jhajjar in Haryana, where there are only 720 girls for every 1,000 boys. And in some parts of China, this is even worse.
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May 31, 2014, 03:27:13 PM |
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Eventually nature has to balance out and get rid of the extra males. Historical solution: war.
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