God is Reality

[BADecker]

A self-moderated thread about religion, this sounds swell.

Yeah, I agree. This sounds shady. At first I thought you were just writing a provocative article to get people into a heated debate, but now it sounds more like you'll filter anyone with different beliefs from you.

/RANT
I bow to no man or god and I believe the Cosmos will help guide my evolution. Not everyone feels this way, but sometimes I'll jest about Christians believing in a floating man in the clouds barking orders. To me, Christianity sounds like a bunch of brainwashed people who believe that they'll burn in a pit of firey acid for all eternity if they don't bow to their Christian God who claims to be all loving and all forgiving. Christians sometimes get mean towards others, yet they have a golden rule to do unto others as you'd have them do unto you and a part of the bible says "Judge not, lest ye be judged" and another says "Who soever is without sin, cast the first stone." Yet, Christians believe that everyone is a sinner and some go around treating people like they're garbage for not believing what they do.

It all contradicts itself, yet people still believe that crap.
/RANT

Hopefully this helps get some drama started for you, as I can't see why else this thread was posted.

We ALL bow in death.

Christians are simply people who recognize that they are mistake-makers and need the help of Jesus to rise from the dead at the last day. Such recognition doesn't make them special or better in any way, even though some of them think that it does. But at least they are willing to accept the fact that they need the help of God to live and exist, and especially in the afterlife.

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[Gimpeline]

A self-moderated thread about religion, this sounds swell.

Yeah, I agree. This sounds shady. At first I thought you were just writing a provocative article to get people into a heated debate, but now it sounds more like you'll filter anyone with different beliefs from you.

/RANT
I bow to no man or god and I believe the Cosmos will help guide my evolution. Not everyone feels this way, but sometimes I'll jest about Christians believing in a floating man in the clouds barking orders. To me, Christianity sounds like a bunch of brainwashed people who believe that they'll burn in a pit of firey acid for all eternity if they don't bow to their Christian God who claims to be all loving and all forgiving. Christians sometimes get mean towards others, yet they have a golden rule to do unto others as you'd have them do unto you and a part of the bible says "Judge not, lest ye be judged" and another says "Who soever is without sin, cast the first stone." Yet, Christians believe that everyone is a sinner and some go around treating people like they're garbage for not believing what they do.

It all contradicts itself, yet people still believe that crap.
/RANT

Hopefully this helps get some drama started for you, as I can't see why else this thread was posted.

We ALL bow in death.

Christians are simply people who recognize that they are mistake-makers and need the help of Jesus to rise from the dead at the last day. Such recognition doesn't make them special or better in any way, even though some of them think that it does. But at least they are willing to accept the fact that they need the help of God to live and exist, and especially in the afterlife.

The fact is that there is no God, no afterlife no heaven or hell.
No one you know will suffer forever because they put their faith in the wrong invisible friend,
so enjoy the time you have on earth and relax 

[Lauda]

The ignorance grows strong in this one.
Never make a self moderated thread about such a topic. I'm not an atheist but God is not a reality, and that's the reality.

[Ayers]

the new theory about the eternal universe is fascinating, you should read that, basically an endless cycle of life, this mean that when you die you return to the start of your life(the universe is consumed every 100B years, then it repeat itself, big bang again), you repeat your life again and again endless without knowing it, this might remove any senseless theory about paradise and hell

[CozyLife]

I bow to no man or god

No masters.
Except the taxman, right?
 

Haha! Nice. Yep, you definitely have to pay some taxes or you'll get sent to prison if you get caught. It sucks, but it's one of the things that's often quite necessary, though tax dollars don't always go only to roads, schools, and so forth.

[dank]

God is all realities.

[BADecker]

Although evidence for God is extremely great through deductive reasoning about the things we see in nature, God doesn't tell anybody to try to force the idea of God down anyone else's throat. Suggest, yes. Force, no. He hopes people will examine the evidence and come to the correct conclusion.

Since the idea that God DOESN'T exist can't be proven, and since God-nonexistence is way harder to acknowledge based on logical examination of nature around us, God-nonexistence is at best similar to a theory, and at worst a religion.

What I would like to say is, examine the FACTS. People who seem to have proven that God doesn't exist, either have a complicated, twisted explanation that is hard to follow, or they have at the base of their explanations words like "if" and "maybe" - "Maybe if it happened this way, then there couldn't have been any God."

Believers in God accept Him, usually, because of some writings in a book, or because of some personal experience. God reveals Himself, or so they believe.

So, who do we follow? those who have the revelations, or those who say "if?"

The Bible Old Testament has been around for over 2,100 years when you examine the Dead Sea scrolls. If there wasn't some kind of strength to it, it would have disappeared long ago.

Just saying.

[Gimpeline]

Histories about santa have been around for a long time too. Not to mention other gods.
the fact that the fairytale is old dosent make it true

[ReBoRn]

God is all realities.

Yes and without this reality we are nothing because just "God was God is and God will"

[BADecker]

Histories about santa have been around for a long time too. Not to mention other gods.
the fact that the fairytale is old dosent make it true

If you take the time to research the quantity and quality of info in the Old Testament, you will see that it is impossible for such a writing to have come into existence the way it has. It is way too complex. There is no other religious or "Santa" writing that even comes close to the complexity involved in making the Bible O.T. happen, and making it to be available worldwide like it is. There is more than simple, natural, random happenings going on here. And there is more than what a cult of people could do on their own.

[Gimpeline]

Histories about santa have been around for a long time too. Not to mention other gods.
the fact that the fairytale is old dosent make it true

If you take the time to research the quantity and quality of info in the Old Testament, you will see that it is impossible for such a writing to have come into existence the way it has. It is way too complex. There is no other religious or "Santa" writing that even comes close to the complexity involved in making the Bible O.T. happen, and making it to be available worldwide like it is. There is more than simple, natural, random happenings going on here. And there is more than what a cult of people could do on their own.

Not sure what you mean. There are loads of stories around the world about Santa and more people have seen him than God.
There is even songs written in his honour.
Not sure what you mean by complex. If you mean full of errors and contradictions you are right
I have to say that there is more proof for santa than God.

[bl4kjaguar]

Haha! Nice. Yep, you definitely have to pay some taxes or you'll get sent to prison if you get caught. It sucks, but it's one of the things that's often quite necessary

So taxes (tribute) and imprisonment (body-mastery) are your reality.
Maybe the taxman is your god?

[Naer]

deep bro

[BADecker]

Haha! Nice. Yep, you definitely have to pay some taxes or you'll get sent to prison if you get caught. It sucks, but it's one of the things that's often quite necessary

So taxes (tribute) and imprisonment (body-mastery) are your reality.
Maybe the taxman is your god?

The way out of taxes?

This is a rather long audio, almost 4 hours. But it is full of fascinating stuff. Among the stuff, if you listen closely, you will hear the way to beat the taxman, hands down.

http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-39904/TS-822307.mp3

Loads of similar, additional listening info can be found at:

http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Karl-Lentz.html

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=127469&cmd=tc

and in organized fashion, http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5duR4OvEHHxOSdEZhANETw




EDIT: Basically, this only works in Canada, the US and the UK.

[Nik1ab]

The ignorance grows strong in this one.
Never make a self moderated thread about such a topic. I'm not an atheist but God is not a reality, and that's the reality.

This statement is just wrong. You can't call something reality without being able to prove it.

[BADecker]

The ignorance grows strong in this one.
Never make a self moderated thread about such a topic. I'm not an atheist but God is not a reality, and that's the reality.

This statement is just wrong. You can't call something reality without being able to prove it.

Right! For all we know, all the laws of the universe that we have found out already, may not really be laws after all.

Consider this, What if God is not only God, but is also Super God. This means that He holds and controls everything that we call logic in this world and life. It means that He makes everything work together and just look like we have laws of nature, but it is really HIM simply making it look that way to us.

How can we ever really know if this is not so?

[Daniel91]

The ignorance grows strong in this one.
Never make a self moderated thread about such a topic. I'm not an atheist but God is not a reality, and that's the reality.

This statement is just wrong. You can't call something reality without being able to prove it.

Right! For all we know, all the laws of the universe that we have found out already, may not really be laws after all.

Consider this, What if God is not only God, but is also Super God. This means that He holds and controls everything that we call logic in this world and life. It means that He makes everything work together and just look like we have laws of nature, but it is really HIM simply making it look that way to us.

How can we ever really know if this is not so?

If you start such questions, this never ends
You can even question your own existence.
How do you know that you really exist, that you are not just part of some matrix (like in the movie matrix).

[BADecker]

The ignorance grows strong in this one.
Never make a self moderated thread about such a topic. I'm not an atheist but God is not a reality, and that's the reality.

This statement is just wrong. You can't call something reality without being able to prove it.

Right! For all we know, all the laws of the universe that we have found out already, may not really be laws after all.

Consider this, What if God is not only God, but is also Super God. This means that He holds and controls everything that we call logic in this world and life. It means that He makes everything work together and just look like we have laws of nature, but it is really HIM simply making it look that way to us.

How can we ever really know if this is not so?

If you start such questions, this never ends
You can even question your own existence.
How do you know that you really exist, that you are not just part of some matrix (like in the movie matrix).

Forum commenting is fun. So, let's keep commenting.

The only reason Super God has not appeared before is because of the word "Super." For believers in God, the term is God Almighty. Same thing.

We, people, are extremely ignorant. How do we know that we are extremely ignorant? Scientific research has been trying for, at least, decades (if not hundreds or thousands of years) to increase the lifespan of people. Yet the success is virtually nonexistent. How do we know? Because there are still groups of people here and there around the world who live longer than scientists can make anyone else live. (Of course, for all we know, there might have been a race of super-smart scientists who lived in the distant past, who increased the lifespan of everyone from, say, 10 years, to what it is today.)

So, to examine ALL avenues, let's question our own existence, until we find out one way or another if we really DO exist. It's all part of research.

[bl4kjaguar]

The way out of taxes?
EDIT: Basically, this only works in Canada, the US and the UK.

Nice!
Glad to see something like this.

In my experience, it is easy to interest people in liberation if you give them the simplest of instructions, like in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF8WiyVFytQ

I only wish that such audios were accompanied with documents,
because it is really easy to screw up something so simple as a 4-line claim.

Unfortunately, most today do not have the attention span to read even a few pages.  

Passive acceptance of the taxman is no way to live free.

[BADecker]

The way out of taxes?
EDIT: Basically, this only works in Canada, the US and the UK.

Nice!
Glad to see something like this.

In my experience, it is easy to interest people in liberation if you give them the simplest of instructions, like in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF8WiyVFytQ

I only wish that such audios were accompanied with documents,
because it is really easy to screw up something so simple as a 4-line claim.

Unfortunately, most today do not have the attention span to read even a few pages.  

Passive acceptance of the taxman is no way to live free.

Karl is his own kind of guy. He's a tough guy from New York. And he does what he does the way he does, both to straighten out the country, and for his own benefit. He will win BIG in the future once he gets enough of the people of these 3 countries doing what he does.

What is the best way to teach people? You need to make them think. You need to give them the answers in such a way that they have to think to understand what they have.

Doing what Karl is teaching people to do takes guts. You don't learn it by listening to Karl for only one hour. Lots of attorneys don't understand this stuff, and they have been "practicing" for years. It's for this reason that Karl doesn't like templates.

Here is a site where somebody has taken it on himself to do templates. I don't know where this person got all his info. Some is from the audios. Yes, it is a bit of a crude site. We need to make better sites with more clarification. Here it is: http://plaintiffmustappear.blogspot.com/.

Here are a few of Karl's personal docs. They suggest the idea that Karl didn't win, and he didn't in a direct way. But he will when he goes at it the next time, with people of 3 nations behind him. Behind him just through the fact that they are using what he has virtually perfected. Look at the docs to see how much he will win. The docs: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8BdR0w2oZY_d3F2ZjZtSk1JWWM&usp=sharing.

Start listening to the audios. This is real basic stuff, like Judge Judy, without her interference in her own court.



EDIT: I haven't seen all of these docs together any other place. I have downloaded most of them, maybe all of them. You should download them, too, so that a lot of us have copies in the event that Google goes nuts and takes them down.

Note the boxes around most of the court sites in the docs. English grammatical definitions say that anything in a box, or in square brackets [like this], isn't on the page. So you can inform without actually using. Get it?

EDIT 2: What is the reason for Quantum Easing? When we have people of 3 countries winning as big as Karl will win (see the docs), governments and attorney and banking crooks will need LOTS of cash to pay off our court wins.