Was U.S. Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl a Traitor?

[Wilikon]

[...]
“I’m thinking of joining the Army,” he told his folks after ­already having signed up.

Bergdahl’s dream was to help Afghan villagers rebuild their lives and learn to defend themselves, his dad told the magazine.
“The whole ‘COIN’ thing,” Bob explained, referring to America’s strategy of counter-insurgency. “We were given a fictitious picture, an artificially created picture of what we were doing in ­Afghanistan,” the dad said.

Bowe Bergdahl would detail his disillusionment with the Afghanistan campaign in an email to his parents three days before he went missing.

“I am sorry for everything here,” he wrote. “These people need help, yet what they get is the most conceited country in the world telling them that they are nothing and that they are stupid.”
Bergdahl also complained about fellow soldiers. The battalion commander was a “conceited old fool,” he said, and the only “decent” sergeants, planning to leave the platoon “as soon as they can,” told the privates — Bergdahl then among them — “to do the same.”

“I am ashamed to be an American. And the title of US soldier is just the lie of fools,” he concluded. “I am sorry for everything. The horror that is America is disgusting.”

Bob Bergdahl responded in an email: “OBEY YOUR CONSCIENCE!”

One night, after finishing a guard-duty shift, Bowe Bergdahl asked his team leader whether there would be a problem if he left camp with his rifle and night-vision goggles — to which the team leader replied “yes.”

Bergdahl then returned to his bunker, picked up a knife, water, his diary and a camera, and left camp, according to Rolling Stone.

The next morning, he was reported missing, and later that day, a drone and four fighter jets ­began to search for him.

http://nypost.com/2014/05/31/the-bizarre-tale-of-americas-last-known-pow/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mixed-reaction-to-bergdahls-recovery-by-service-members-who-consider-him-a-deserter/2014/06/01/3713e3ce-e9c5-11e3-b98c-72cef4a00499_story.html






http://youtu.be/XeUqBNtWpig

[bryant.coleman]

I am not sure about the authenticity of those tweets. They could be so easily faked, or can be made under duress. But still, releasing some of the world's most infamous terrorists for just one soldier is retarded. The US Army lost dozens of its men during attempts to capture them.

[RodeoX]

Looks like a case study in Stockholm syndrome. And remember, Dad is playing a game with the Taliban. He just want's his son back and if that means letting the Taliban think they are winning hearts and minds, so be it. That doesn't make Sgt. Bergdahl a traitor. Most of us would crack after years of captivity.

[Charlie Prime]

One of the soldiers in his unit sent a $500 donation to this podcast so they would read his letter on air.

In the letter he says Berghahl deserted his unit during a shift change, and that 12 U.S. troops died trying to find him.

Fast-forward to 5 minutes, 55 seconds:

http://mp3s.nashownotes.com/NA-622-2014-06-01-Final.mp3

This sucks because any kid dumb enough to join the military can formally quit and go home after they get in and see what's really going on.

From:  Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak's No Agenda Show:  http://www.noagendashow.com

[Wilikon]

I am not sure about the authenticity of those tweets. They could be so easily faked, or can be made under duress. But still, releasing some of the world's most infamous terrorists for just one soldier is retarded. The US Army lost dozens of its men during attempts to capture them.

As far as everyone knows this account was not hacked or faked. It is the father's account.



http://twitchy.com/2014/05/31/working-to-free-all-guantanamo-prisoners-tweet-from-account-of-released-soldiers-father-deleted/?utm_source=autotweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter

[RodeoX]

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In the letter he says Berghahl deserted his unit during a shift change...

That's the weird part. Was he deserting? Where would he go? Surely he knew that he could not get out of the country on his own. I wonder if he had some kind of breakdown or psychotic episode that inspired him to leave base. It was a crazy move.

[Wilikon]

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In the letter he says Berghahl deserted his unit during a shift change...

That's the weird part. Was he deserting? Where would he go? Surely he knew that he could not get out of the country on his own. I wonder if he had some kind of breakdown or psychotic episode that inspired him to leave base. It was a crazy move.

His intention was clear before "vanishing". His father gave him the push when replying (in all cap) "obey your conscious" like it is said in the NY Post article.

[Wilikon]

One of the soldiers in his unit sent a $500 donation to this podcast so they would read his letter on air.

In the letter he says Berghahl deserted his unit during a shift change, and that 12 U.S. troops died trying to find him.

Fast-forward to 5 minutes, 55 seconds:

http://mp3s.nashownotes.com/NA-622-2014-06-01-Final.mp3

This sucks because any kid dumb enough to join the military can formally quit and go home after they get in and see what's really going on.

From:  Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak's No Agenda Show:  http://www.noagendashow.com

Thank you for the podcast. They even talk about "Operation Choke Point too"...

[bryant.coleman]

Looks like a case study in Stockholm syndrome. And remember, Dad is playing a game with the Taliban. He just want's his son back and if that means letting the Taliban think they are winning hearts and minds, so be it. That doesn't make Sgt. Bergdahl a traitor. Most of us would crack after years of captivity.

Perhaps that is what happened. The father wanted his son home, at any means possible. The Taliban / Al Qaeda are infamous for their barbaric torture methods. Makes the family members of the victims to do odd things.

[jambola2]

The reaction to Sgt. Bergdahl's story has in large part been one of unwarranted skepticism. Granted, there are details we do not know and may never know, the truth is that he was a POW. And even if he was disillusioned with the US's operation, he still deserved to be saved, just like any other POW. You can't pick and choose POW's to save based on their blind devotion to an operation that they can asses best on the ground.

[RodeoX]

...
In the letter he says Berghahl deserted his unit during a shift change...

That's the weird part. Was he deserting? Where would he go? Surely he knew that he could not get out of the country on his own. I wonder if he had some kind of breakdown or psychotic episode that inspired him to leave base. It was a crazy move.

His intention was clear before "vanishing". His father gave him the push when replying (in all cap) "obey your conscious" like it is said in the NY Post article.

I hear what your saying and you may be right, but why not leave active service? He could have easily asked the Army for conscientious objector status. But trying to walk home, if that was his intention, is suicide. 

[Charlie Prime]

Thank you for the podcast. They even talk about "Operation Choke Point too"...

You're welcome.  Curry & Dvorak are expert at deconstructing mainstream media lies because they both have four decades of experience in that industry.

Caveats to Be Wary Of:

- They are completely ignorant of Austrian economics.  Dvorak is a committed Keynesian, despite being ignorant of what that even is.

- Dvorak is disingenuous.  He was a professional troll for most of his career.  He still sometimes is.

- Curry lies about being anti-Bitcoin.  After listening to one of the vicious anti-Bitcoin rants he used to spew, I offered to drive to his house and give him a 20% premium in cash money to buy every Bitcoin he possessed.  He refused, and still holds them.

That being said, they offer a media deconstruction you won't find elsewhere.  Use discernment.  Keep my caveats in mind while listening.

[bryant.coleman]

And even if he was disillusioned with the US's operation, he still deserved to be saved, just like any other POW.

But the question was whether his life was more important than dozens of other American soldiers? Check the number of soldiers who died trying to capture all those Al Qaeda terrorists.

[Wilikon]

...Daddy is still tweeting...

[Wilikon]

Army Sergeant Who Served With Bergdahl: “He’s At Best A Deserter, At Worst A Traitor”…

http://youtu.be/ncXq1bBGtp0

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Signed NDA (Non disclosure agreement) for soldiers regarding Bergdahl? What?

[Wilikon]

...Daddy is tweeting and retweeting...




That Link is About Taliban Bragging About Murder Of U.S Troops In Attack On U.S Base



...Daddy is sad about twitter and the taliban's free speech




What a great family. No doubt his son is a hero...

[hello_good_sir]

This sucks because any kid dumb enough to join the military can formally quit and go home after they get in and see what's really going on.

Completely false.  Please edit your post to delete this misinformation.

[Ron~Popeil]

I am going to with hold judgement. These kinds of things can affect people in different ways. I am glad he is free, I just wish we hadn't released hard core terrorists in the process.

[Wilikon]

This sucks because any kid dumb enough to join the military can formally quit and go home after they get in and see what's really going on.

Completely false.  Please edit your post to delete this misinformation.

It would be more constructive to add to the discussion links and proofs of that "misinformation". Unless you have forum post deletion super powers...

[Wilikon]

State Dept: Bergdahl Was Not a Deserter


http://youtu.be/DT3HrSGl_9g