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February 15, 2012, 07:31:38 AM
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You seem like a nice guy, please read this: http://money.howstuffworks.com/con-artist.htm

My favorate part: "new technologies and laws give con artists the opportunity to create original scams." LOL


And as a counter, I might offer you this advise: Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. I'm not saying Bruce is an enemy of mine by any means. But if you suspect someone is capable of defrauding you, your guard should already be up. It's the people you dont know that are fraudsters that should worry you the most. My relationship with Bruce centers on discussions surrounding Bitcoin and it's amazing potential to change the world for the better. And in that regard, I have faith in him to promote Bitcoin with all of our best interest in mind.

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February 15, 2012, 07:36:10 AM
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I gotta say, I've had dinner several times with Bruce and lots of one-on-one conversations. While I can't speak to his past suspected transgressions, he is a true believer and faithful advocate of Bitcoin and I respect him for that.

I'd be even more of a true believer in Bitcoin than I am if I could amass 25k of them while shirking the responsibility for paying back the $500,000.00 that I ripped off from distressed mortgage holders and stay out of jail in the process.

I might have a shred of respect for Bruce when he voluntarily makes some effort to help those who he ripped off...particularly because it was people who could least afford to be ripped off so it seems.

I have to thank Bruce for opening my eyes to the fact that anyone who is a true believer in Bitcoin has some reason to be.  Seems obvious in retrospect but I did not ponder the concept enough at the outset of my interest in the subject.


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February 15, 2012, 08:12:23 AM
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You seem like a nice guy, please read this: http://money.howstuffworks.com/con-artist.htm

My favorate part: "new technologies and laws give con artists the opportunity to create original scams." LOL


And as a counter, I might offer you this advise: Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. I'm not saying Bruce is an enemy of mine by any means. But if you suspect someone is capable of defrauding you, your guard should already be up. It's the people you dont know that are fraudsters that should worry you the most. My relationship with Bruce centers on discussions surrounding Bitcoin and it's amazing potential to change the world for the better. And in that regard, I have faith in him to promote Bitcoin with all of our best interest in mind.
I like you so I'll be gentle and just respond to this with one word: Pattaya.

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February 15, 2012, 08:37:52 AM
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And in that regard, I have faith in him to promote Bitcoin with all of our best interest in mind.
Someone who has been convicted of fraud and evangelizes the sex trade is not a good spokesperson for Bitcoin.  That is what he wants to be, and even if he is a complete angel now, he will hurt the brand. 

He should be ostracized.
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February 15, 2012, 12:33:16 PM
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And in that regard, I have faith in him to promote Bitcoin with all of our best interest in mind.
Someone who has been convicted of fraud and evangelizes the sex trade is not a good spokesperson for Bitcoin.  That is what he wants to be, and even if he is a complete angel now, he will hurt the brand. 

He should be ostracized.

Sex trade is pretty awesome. Lets leave that out of here.

Fraud, on the other hand, sucks.
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February 15, 2012, 01:26:06 PM
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I hope your right but I worry that it’s the innocent (and possibly underage) people that are just getting into Bitcoin that will be his prey.  

Well, the one that recorded furries fucking in a toy house was you...

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February 15, 2012, 01:45:00 PM
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And in that regard, I have faith in him to promote Bitcoin with all of our best interest in mind.
Someone who has been convicted of fraud and evangelizes the sex trade is not a good spokesperson for Bitcoin.  That is what he wants to be, and even if he is a complete angel now, he will hurt the brand. 

He should be ostracized.

I thought it was only a civil court order.  I don't see what the sex trade has anything to do with with being a spokesperson.  Pornography will probably be one of the biggest uses of bitcoins in the future, why ostracize a a very profitable industry?

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February 15, 2012, 02:43:29 PM
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I always thought the guy came off as nervous and weak. I wouldn't want to tie my company to him.
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February 15, 2012, 02:59:34 PM
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And in that regard, I have faith in him to promote Bitcoin with all of our best interest in mind.
Someone who has been convicted of fraud and evangelizes the sex trade is not a good spokesperson for Bitcoin.  That is what he wants to be, and even if he is a complete angel now, he will hurt the brand.  

He should be ostracized.

I thought it was only a civil court order.  I don't see what the sex trade has anything to do with with being a spokesperson.  Pornography will probably be one of the biggest uses of bitcoins in the future, why ostracize a a very profitable industry?

It does when he is an avid preacher of how silky smooth and hot young Pattayan boys are and how you should tip them after screwing them.


"Sex trade" does not mean "adult entertainment industry". It means "prostitution".

I hope your right but I worry that it’s the innocent (and possibly underage) people that are just getting into Bitcoin that will be his prey. 

Well, the one that recorded furries fucking in a toy house was you...

Hey! That was me! How dare you give credit to someone else.  Cool

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February 15, 2012, 03:33:06 PM
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I also hate rainbows.

*RAGE*

It does when he is an avid preacher of how silky smooth and hot young Pattayan boys are and how you should tip them after screwing them.

Are you saying that Pattayan boys are rough and ugly, and don't deserve tips for their hard working services?


BTW, to be fair, his shows have 10,000 to 20,000 views each. That's a pretty sizeable chunk of the Bitcoin community. Either most of his viewers don't know about his background, or they don't care, so advertising with him still makes sense.

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February 15, 2012, 03:41:18 PM
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I also hate rainbows.

*RAGE*

It does when he is an avid preacher of how silky smooth and hot young Pattayan boys are and how you should tip them after screwing them.

Are you saying that Pattayan boys are rough and ugly, and don't deserve tips for their hard working services?


BTW, to be fair, his shows have 10,000 to 20,000 views each. That's a pretty sizeable chunk of the Bitcoin community. Either most of his viewers don't know about his background, or they don't care, so advertising with him still makes sense.

And to be even more fair, his viewers don't necessarily like him when they watch to see how he will ignore his next guests. I am pretty sure when Vicente and I were throwing back popcorn watching the last fail parade we weren't doing so as 'fans'.

Also, all of his 'sponsors' are people who has personally befriended or just wants to be associated with. He put Roger's MemoryDealers logo as a sponsor once without any consent from Roger (or sponsorship!). I wouldn't put much stock in his advertisers knowing anything about Bitcoin other than what Bruce has told them (which was probably something like "They worship me".)

P.S. In my defense, rainbows remind me of that time God tried to kill me with a giant flood. It sucked and my shoes were soaked.

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February 15, 2012, 04:21:23 PM
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I hope your right but I worry that it’s the innocent (and possibly underage) people that are just getting into Bitcoin that will be his prey.  

Well, the one that recorded furries fucking in a toy house was you...

 Huh

Yeah!  Huh Exactly my point!

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February 15, 2012, 05:28:05 PM
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I hope your right but I worry that it’s the innocent (and possibly underage) people that are just getting into Bitcoin that will be his prey.  

Well, the one that recorded furries fucking in a toy house was you...

 Huh

Yeah!  Huh Exactly my point!

What are you talking about?
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February 15, 2012, 09:49:17 PM
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It does when he is an avid preacher of how silky smooth and hot young Pattayan boys are and how you should tip them after screwing them.

"Sex trade" does not mean "adult entertainment industry". It means "prostitution".

This.
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February 16, 2012, 02:33:45 AM
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You seem like a nice guy, please read this: http://money.howstuffworks.com/con-artist.htm

My favorate part: "new technologies and laws give con artists the opportunity to create original scams." LOL


And as a counter, I might offer you this advise: Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. I'm not saying Bruce is an enemy of mine by any means. But if you suspect someone is capable of defrauding you, your guard should already be up. It's the people you dont know that are fraudsters that should worry you the most. My relationship with Bruce centers on discussions surrounding Bitcoin and it's amazing potential to change the world for the better. And in that regard, I have faith in him to promote Bitcoin with all of our best interest in mind.

But how do you survive without Bruce Gayne advertising for you ?

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February 16, 2012, 02:45:37 AM
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"Sex trade" does not mean "adult entertainment industry". It means "prostitution".


In some countries and some states in the USA there is not much difference between prostitution and pornography.  In some places, like Singapore, prostitution is legal while pornography is illegal.

I have never watched his show so I don't care one way or the other.

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February 16, 2012, 02:53:11 AM
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You seem like a nice guy, please read this: http://money.howstuffworks.com/con-artist.htm

My favorate part: "new technologies and laws give con artists the opportunity to create original scams." LOL


And as a counter, I might offer you this advise: Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. I'm not saying Bruce is an enemy of mine by any means. But if you suspect someone is capable of defrauding you, your guard should already be up. It's the people you dont know that are fraudsters that should worry you the most. My relationship with Bruce centers on discussions surrounding Bitcoin and it's amazing potential to change the world for the better. And in that regard, I have faith in him to promote Bitcoin with all of our best interest in mind.

But how do you survive without Bruce Gayne advertising for you?

Herein lies your answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xBIVlM435Zg#t=155s


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February 16, 2012, 03:23:30 AM
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You seem like a nice guy, please read this: http://money.howstuffworks.com/con-artist.htm

My favorate part: "new technologies and laws give con artists the opportunity to create original scams." LOL


And as a counter, I might offer you this advise: Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. I'm not saying Bruce is an enemy of mine by any means. But if you suspect someone is capable of defrauding you, your guard should already be up. It's the people you dont know that are fraudsters that should worry you the most. My relationship with Bruce centers on discussions surrounding Bitcoin and it's amazing potential to change the world for the better. And in that regard, I have faith in him to promote Bitcoin with all of our best interest in mind.

But how do you survive without Bruce Gayne advertising for you?

Herein lies your answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xBIVlM435Zg#t=155s




I remember a day when people actually responded with letters..

And on another note, Im not shutting down my miners just to watch a youtube video...

Bruno, you gotta check your market for your responses.. Cheesy hahahha

These videos cost me money to watch now!


PS ya I freakin watched it, you owe me 2 bitcents..  Cheesy

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February 16, 2012, 05:33:42 AM
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I agree with the concept Bruce stated but I don't agree with the self promoted commercial in his own statement. It just makes him look even more ridiculous.

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February 16, 2012, 05:45:29 AM
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Tradehill....

you should've never called yourself a hill when the market leader already was a mountain.


I mean...



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