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June 04, 2014, 05:36:28 PM
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HEDGE FUND BTC

BUY SHARES: https://www.litecoininvest.com/security/HFBTC

Objectives:
- Basic criteria is working how business angels for interesting enterprises and ideas.
- Do not invest in illegal activities.
- Investments are prioritized with ethics, social and ecological projects.
- Investing in assets denominated in all crypto-currencies. But priority is for all nominated in BTC.
- Investing in stocks, bonds, funds and loans.
- Initially all business are in Internet but in one future it's possible invest also in stock markets (ex. NASDAQ, NYSE, EUROSTOCK, ...).
- Looking to increase value investing. Normally reinvest a percentage of the profits.
- Invest looking sustainable and to diversify risk.

Economic management:
- Dividend payout (aprox): 50%. Normally weekly. Dividends are not regular. History and profit dividends: https://www.litecoininvest.com/security/HFLTC/history
- Any costs that may occur will be deducted from incomes.
- Administration fee: 5%.
- Divestments can generate extraordinary dividends.

Basic data:
- Initial capital: 1000 BTC.
- Initial shares: 1000000 (ONE MILLION).
- Nominal per share: 0,001 BTC.
- Ticker: HFBTC.

Liquidation:
- If at any time economic activity is finished: assets will be sold and returned invested capital through special dividends.
- All assets be settled as soon as possible trying not to lose value.

Other managed funds:
Hedge Fund LTC. LitecoinInvest. Ticker: HFLTC.
Link: https://www.litecoininvest.com/security/HFLTC

Info:
- Name: Miquel J. Pavón Besalú
- Owner: Bitcoin Investors Trust SLU
- Location: Avda Lluís Pericot, 46 17003-GIRONA (SPAIN)
- CIF: (ES) B17686445
- Email: info@investbtceur.com
- Website: http://www.investbtceur.com
- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/miqueljpavon
- Linked-In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/miqueljpavon

Private shares:
BUY: Min. shares: 100. Price 0.1 BTC. Weekly dividends paid directly to bitcoin adress.
SELL: Contact email please.
TRANSFER: It's possible transfer shares to HFLTC.
TRADE: I search one new bitcoin exchange.
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June 05, 2014, 10:30:28 AM
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THIS IS A FUCKIN SCAM THEY SCAMMED ME 100 BTC
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June 05, 2014, 10:53:23 AM
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ATTENTION : CHAIN OF PONZI PROBABLY

Attention in all this capital which promise exaggerated returns

Returns in Hedge Fund BTC is variable week to week. Only pay real earnings.
You can see justification profits in https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ar7_aNe-JZqRdExuN3NJYXlxM2VFVV9yYzJNbkFLcXc&output=html
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June 05, 2014, 01:57:31 PM
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Related: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=591901.0

BTW, I tried to talk some sense to makalu, but he insisted to go on.
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June 05, 2014, 03:30:16 PM
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I tried to talk some sense to makalu, but he insisted to go on.

Yes Jurov I remember our email conversation about BitcoinBourse.
In this moment I was looking for one exchange for do my project. Remember ... I ask you about CoinBr.
Now I'm searching one exchange now for to list Hedge Fund BTC.
I study now several options.
Your advices are welcome always.
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June 05, 2014, 05:44:46 PM
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check out counterparty and coinprism for decentralized listing options
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June 06, 2014, 09:28:29 AM
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check out counterparty and coinprism for decentralized listing options

Thanks for your info !!!! I check it.
Perphaps for me is to find any online-wallet website than I can pay easy to multiple wallets and if is possible little fees.
Now my weekly dividends are 0.00002500-0.00001500 BTC/share.
Problem is payments for shareholders than have loss 100 shares.
I want to respect earnings everybody.
Good luck.
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June 07, 2014, 01:54:36 PM
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what is the actuall business ? I sent you bTC then what do you do wth it ?
how arre you giving to dividends? We should mkae 100%+ right ?
and not just get our dividends so eventually get 100% back, right ?

I don't mean to sound negative, its late an I am tired :
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June 10, 2014, 08:21:29 AM
Last edit: June 11, 2014, 08:27:50 AM by makalu
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Dividend was paid now.
Sorry this weekend in Spain Monday was holidays and I go to climb mountains.
Thanks.

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What is the actual business?
You can see https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ar7_aNe-JZqRdExuN3NJYXlxM2VFVV9yYzJNbkFLcXc&output=html column week earnings. I actualize info frequently.
Early we begin invest in NASDAQ stock market.

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I sent you BTC then what do you do wth it?
I diversify investments for to be money more secure. Also I receipt investment proposals. I analyze invest money asking reputation and profitability.
It's possible to be private shares. Only contact me.
You need also understand than I also invest my private money in this Hedge Fund. Then my basic interest is than all run very well.

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How are you giving to dividends?
If you see public google spreadsheet you understand where Hedge Fund earn diversify money every week. Every week is different.

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We should make 100%+ right?
Yes now profitability Hedge Fund you can expect is 100% now but share prices can change. I don't know how can evolution prices because trade it's free. I work for month to month profitability fund increase. Also I do very much reinvestments. Also it's possible decreases if there are any important scam. Also BTC or LTC exchange prices can increase or decrease your investment.

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And not just get our dividends so eventually get 100% back, right?
Of course. Dividends is your earnings. Yours shares can be sell and then you recuperate your first investment. You need to know than sell prices can change day to day. See trade label.
I'm serious. I pay dividends weekly. I can't promise one exact hour because I don't have one cron for to pay. But dividends are regular.
If I can't work more in this Hedge Fund I will try sell all our positions best prices and pay one liquidation dividend. Also it's possible to sell all business other company or team if there are any interesting to continue but this option now is very remote.
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June 15, 2014, 07:40:33 PM
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Today (15-Jun-2014) BitcoinBourse stop trade HFB.
Changed terms for merchants. Want earn fee 1 BTC/month. I consider than is unacceptable.
BitcoinBourse say than I can't pay 1 BTC/month.
Hedge Fund BTC say than BitcoinBourse sell shares loss than 1 BTC/month. With this sales is one unjustified rate.
For this reason I offer this solutions for BitcoinBourse shareholders:
- Migrate to any other exchange. I work for this. I hope than early we can do it.
- Convert shares to private shares. If you have more than 100 shares it's possible to pay directly to bitcoin adress.
- Convert BitcoinBourse shares (HFB) to LitecoinInvest shares (HFLTC).
Don't worry. I pay weekly dividends normally.
Thanks for your comprension.
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June 22, 2014, 09:14:36 AM
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WEEKLY DIVIDEND

You can expect tomorrow Monday 23 Jun 2014 next weekly dividend. For Hedge Fund LTC wil be 0.00019 LTC. For Hedge Fund BTC will be 0.000019 BTC.

How you know main earnings are thanks my BTC-EUR trade on LocalBitcoins. It would be interesting to move more money (aprox 5 BTC or 200 LTC). With this money could increase weekly dividend considerably. With actual share prices profitability is up 100% year.

If any want private BTC investments please contact me. Minimum is 0,10 BTC = 100 shares Hedge Fund BTC. Now I work for to list Hedge Fund BTC in any exchange. When I obtain it it's possible migrate private shares to new exchange.

Thanks for your support.
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June 23, 2014, 01:04:16 PM
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On BitcoinBourse I don't pay more dividends for HFB.
After heart last days shareholders I decided to migrate Hedge Fund BTC (HFB) on BitcoinBourse to Hedge Fund LTC (HFLTC) on www.litecoininvest.com
All shareholders than have more 300 shares can convert HFB to private shares. Is not problem. If yes please send me your bitcoin adress for receive next dividends.
Less 300 shares transaction fees are very hight for receive dividends directly. Is better to migrate.
Change is 1 HFB = 6 HFLTC + bonnus.
Please send me your nickname on LitecoinInvest for to tranfer your shares.
Thanks.
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August 11, 2014, 03:48:31 PM
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Weekly dividend paid.
This week begin trade on Nasdaq market.
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August 18, 2014, 01:46:08 PM
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Weekly dividend paid.

Now I speak with new exchange website www.stockexchange.pw for to list Hedge Fund BTC shares (nominated in bitcoin). I hope in next days to have great news about this. Waiting ....

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August 19, 2014, 11:49:54 PM
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what is the actuall business ? I sent you bTC then what do you do wth it ?
how arre you giving to dividends? We should mkae 100%+ right ?
and not just get our dividends so eventually get 100% back, right ?

I don't mean to sound negative, its late an I am tired :

He manages your money by investing in other business's. He has a complete spreadsheet available of what he invests in and what quantity.


Disclaimer: absolutely no offense against any party. Just laying down the facts that I observed during my "BTC times". Agree or don't this is how it is(and how will it end).


Few key points:
a) for hedge fund to be really working it needs to operate inside of 'legal state'. That means that if any of companies fund invest in defaults or something, fund can sue it and possibly recover some lost money/coins. Without legal coverage their is no reason to believe involved parties will keep their promises(without using leverage on them(and almost everytime you have no leverage against them at your disposal))
b) so called businesses you or some fund like invest in ARE NOT REAL BUSINESSES!!!! Please read this line few more times as it's very important and you will probably disagree with it at the beginning. Most of them are just fake/ponzi/fraud/experimentOfKidWithZeroRealBusinessExperience that used dawn of cryptocurrency  to cheat many kids/naivePeople/mindlessPeople and get their coins. Even if some of them are legit(but trust me most of them are not) if they default/operatorDies/etc you lose everything "invested" in them with no possibility to get at least something back
c) with hedge fund you just add one extra layer of 3rd party which you CAN'T trust - so you are in risk that fund will go default, etc and at the same time in risk, that "companies" (see b)) fund has invested in will go default(so fund will lose proportion of it's wealth)
d) some real examples of why you shouldn't invest(read gamble) in those "companies" and funds from the history: glbse tickers, cryptostock tickers(99% are scam/ponzi - for example look at my favorit JDBIF Cheesy Cheesy I hope that guy behind it will eventually get arrested one day) and you will probably think of dozens of others Smiley
e) this is no insult but if you think that google docs is some kind of prove of fund operation you are just silly Smiley (is there any reason ponzi fund couldn't write this in same way?)

So if you will keep your coins in such fund you will eventually lose(maybe not all). As well as fund operator will be forced to close it down one day and lose his credibility.
Only reason to invest is to learn points a) - e) on your own Smiley
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August 21, 2014, 04:31:12 PM
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what is the actuall business ? I sent you bTC then what do you do wth it ?
how arre you giving to dividends? We should mkae 100%+ right ?
and not just get our dividends so eventually get 100% back, right ?

I don't mean to sound negative, its late an I am tired :

He manages your money by investing in other business's. He has a complete spreadsheet available of what he invests in and what quantity.


Disclaimer: absolutely no offense against any party. Just laying down the facts that I observed during my "BTC times". Agree or don't this is how it is(and how will it end).


Few key points:
a) for hedge fund to be really working it needs to operate inside of 'legal state'. That means that if any of companies fund invest in defaults or something, fund can sue it and possibly recover some lost money/coins. Without legal coverage their is no reason to believe involved parties will keep their promises(without using leverage on them(and almost everytime you have no leverage against them at your disposal))
b) so called businesses you or some fund like invest in ARE NOT REAL BUSINESSES!!!! Please read this line few more times as it's very important and you will probably disagree with it at the beginning. Most of them are just fake/ponzi/fraud/experimentOfKidWithZeroRealBusinessExperience that used dawn of cryptocurrency  to cheat many kids/naivePeople/mindlessPeople and get their coins. Even if some of them are legit(but trust me most of them are not) if they default/operatorDies/etc you lose everything "invested" in them with no possibility to get at least something back
c) with hedge fund you just add one extra layer of 3rd party which you CAN'T trust - so you are in risk that fund will go default, etc and at the same time in risk, that "companies" (see b)) fund has invested in will go default(so fund will lose proportion of it's wealth)
d) some real examples of why you shouldn't invest(read gamble) in those "companies" and funds from the history: glbse tickers, cryptostock tickers(99% are scam/ponzi - for example look at my favorit JDBIF Cheesy Cheesy I hope that guy behind it will eventually get arrested one day) and you will probably think of dozens of others Smiley
e) this is no insult but if you think that google docs is some kind of prove of fund operation you are just silly Smiley (is there any reason ponzi fund couldn't write this in same way?)

So if you will keep your coins in such fund you will eventually lose(maybe not all). As well as fund operator will be forced to close it down one day and lose his credibility.
Only reason to invest is to learn points a) - e) on your own Smiley

Its not necessarily proof, but I have seen scans of his ID that match his blog / social media accounts, I have also been holding his shares for several months now. He hasn't listed any new shares in quite a while, and it would make no sense to keep paying people out once you stop bringing money in. Thats not how ponzi's work  Roll Eyes Its also a legally registered company in spain.

Not to worried about him running off with funds with so much of his information available


And I don't "mark him as Ponzi guy" - like I say even when fund operator will be absolutely honest he can't defend against investing into well run scam -> explained in my point b)

Anyway I wish you all a good luck and hope noone gets screwed Smiley
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September 23, 2014, 07:39:06 PM
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Important notice for our investments ;-)
http://blog.bitpay.com/2014/09/23/bitpay-and-paypal-an-unbeatable-payment-partnership.html
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October 24, 2014, 07:30:40 AM
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Interesting new !!!
Hedge Fund BTC now listed in LitecoinInvest.
https://www.litecoininvest.com/security/HFBTC
I need your vote for to launch it !!!
Early trade can be active.
Thanks.
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October 24, 2014, 10:21:08 PM
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If OP is correct in his valuations, then IMO shares are trading at a 90% discount to net asset value.



Total outstanding shares: 65,447

NAV/share= (6,987 LTC/65,447 outstanding) = 0.106 LTC/share, total assets divided by total shares

last trade: 15@.01001

...am I missing something here?

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October 25, 2014, 07:13:43 PM
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If OP is correct in his valuations, then IMO shares are trading at a 90% discount to net asset value.



Total outstanding shares: 65,447

NAV/share= (6,987 LTC/65,447 outstanding) = 0.106 LTC/share, total assets divided by total shares

last trade: 15@.01001

...am I missing something here?



Yes, now there are some private shareholders than have Hedge Fund BTC shares.
When litecoininvest open trade all shares can be migrated and info actualized.
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