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June 05, 2014, 01:25:45 PM
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- Over-utilization of resources such as electricity, gas, food, etc



I don't understand this one at all. How can you over use these things. I mean they all leave a carbon footprint but America is based around this type of consumerism. I would think it would be considered a good thing.
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June 05, 2014, 02:12:46 PM
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- Americans are losing their job

The US has been going downhill for quite a while. Inflation since http://www.bearishnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/us-inflation-since-1913.jpg
The current US policy seems to be to print more money, in effect, causing more inflation.  Here is a chart showing the debt of the US https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/Dept.svg/990px-Dept.svg.png  Here is a debt world map to compare with other countries: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Public_debt_percent_gdp_world_map.PNG There is mass corruption in the world bank and banks, have a look at : https://theawakezone.wordpress.com/2014/04/21/world-bank-whistleblower-reveals-how-the-global-elite-rules-the-world/  This is the main cause for Americans losing their jobs.



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- There has been an increase in crime, pollution and traffic congestion
We have the biggest dragnet surveillance system of the world so crime should have reduced lately, right?  Wink
Traffic congestion can be solved in two ways:  either less people in cars on the roads, or, wider roads.
Pollution is a world wide problem, have a look at this map http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/5241dfceecad04146283235d-1200-600/pollution_excess_deaths_lrg.png In terms of pollution immigrants (and natives) are better of going to the northern hemisphere or Australia.


 


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June 05, 2014, 02:44:24 PM
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Loads and loads of people from across the globe are immigrating to America for different purposes.. Their aims and purposes are getting fulfilled but America is actually getting destroyed..
Some adverse affects are as below :
- Americans are losing their job
- There has been an increase in crime, pollution and traffic congestion
- Erosion of culture
- Over-utilization of resources such as electricity, gas, food, etc
- Loss in form of remittance

You are free to debate, confirm on\off any of the combinations above..

Immigration is a good thing. Voluntary and yes even forced immigration built this country. We should have open borders.

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June 05, 2014, 02:45:56 PM
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Relation of immigration to crime, in the United States.

Some facts:

1. In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide are for illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.

2. 60 percent of the 20,000-strong 18th Street Gang in southern California were illegal aliens in a 1995 report.

Source: http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html
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June 05, 2014, 02:55:34 PM
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Loads and loads of people from across the globe are immigrating to America for different purposes.. Their aims and purposes are getting fulfilled but America is actually getting destroyed..
Some adverse affects are as below :
- Americans are losing their job
- There has been an increase in crime, pollution and traffic congestion
- Erosion of culture
- Over-utilization of resources such as electricity, gas, food, etc
- Loss in form of remittance

You are free to debate, confirm on\off any of the combinations above..

Immigration is a good thing. Voluntary and yes even forced immigration built this country. We should have open borders.

Immigration might be a good thing. But open borders would be quite the situation. People from all over the world would be flocking to the US in the millions. There would be violence for sure. Honestly the thought is just scary, and I'm not anti-immigration by any means. But open borders  is asking for trouble I think. There are a lot of people in the world who would take advantage of such a situation.
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June 05, 2014, 03:14:15 PM
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Loads and loads of people from across the globe are immigrating to America for different purposes.. Their aims and purposes are getting fulfilled but America is actually getting destroyed..
Some adverse affects are as below :
- Americans are losing their job
- There has been an increase in crime, pollution and traffic congestion
- Erosion of culture
- Over-utilization of resources such as electricity, gas, food, etc
- Loss in form of remittance

You are free to debate, confirm on\off any of the combinations above..

Immigration is a good thing. Voluntary and yes even forced immigration built this country. We should have open borders.

Immigration might be a good thing. But open borders would be quite the situation. People from all over the world would be flocking to the US in the millions. There would be violence for sure. Honestly the thought is just scary, and I'm not anti-immigration by any means. But open borders  is asking for trouble I think. There are a lot of people in the world who would take advantage of such a situation.

There will be violence either way. I should rephrase what I mean though. I am not advocating a completely lawless border. I would like to see a robust and quick system to allow for orderly immigration. Sort of an open borders policy framework that makes it easy for hard working people to come here and pursue their dreams.

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June 05, 2014, 04:23:03 PM
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Loads and loads of people from across the globe are immigrating to America for different purposes.. Their aims and purposes are getting fulfilled but America is actually getting destroyed..
Some adverse affects are as below :
- Americans are losing their job
- There has been an increase in crime, pollution and traffic congestion
- Erosion of culture
- Over-utilization of resources such as electricity, gas, food, etc
- Loss in form of remittance

You are free to debate, confirm on\off any of the combinations above..

Immigration is a good thing. Voluntary and yes even forced immigration built this country. We should have open borders.

Immigration might be a good thing. But open borders would be quite the situation. People from all over the world would be flocking to the US in the millions. There would be violence for sure. Honestly the thought is just scary, and I'm not anti-immigration by any means. But open borders  is asking for trouble I think. There are a lot of people in the world who would take advantage of such a situation.

There will be violence either way. I should rephrase what I mean though. I am not advocating a completely lawless border. I would like to see a robust and quick system to allow for orderly immigration. Sort of an open borders policy framework that makes it easy for hard working people to come here and pursue their dreams.

Ah. That sounds reasonable. I think that something like that might be a good idea.
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June 05, 2014, 05:24:06 PM
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Loads and loads of people from across the globe are immigrating to America for different purposes.. Their aims and purposes are getting fulfilled but America is actually getting destroyed..
Some adverse affects are as below :
- Americans are losing their job
- There has been an increase in crime, pollution and traffic congestion
- Erosion of culture
- Over-utilization of resources such as electricity, gas, food, etc
- Loss in form of remittance

You are free to debate, confirm on\off any of the combinations above..

Its the same for every American whether you are from here or not. Immigrants have nothing to do with it, its the simple fact that the banker oligarchs are gutting the middle and lower classes and destroying the planet. Your view is not backed up by any relevant data whatsoever.

Lets also keep in mind, America was founded by people who were originally immigrants...

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June 05, 2014, 05:36:54 PM
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Loads and loads of people from across the globe are immigrating to America for different purposes.. Their aims and purposes are getting fulfilled but America is actually getting destroyed..
Some adverse affects are as below :
- Americans are losing their job (because we sent them overseas)
- There has been an increase in crime, pollution and traffic congestion (crime is at historic lows in the US, pollution and traffic is because of overpopulation and laxed pollution standards)
- Erosion of culture (Culture is always changing no one in history has ever been able to stop it)
- Over-utilization of resources such as electricity, gas, food, etc (Americans use more of these resources than any other culture in history)
- Loss in form of remittance (?)

You are free to debate, confirm on\off any of the combinations above..

Are you a member of a native American tribe? If not, I assume you mean that WE are destroying America.

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June 05, 2014, 05:37:40 PM
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is this a troll post or something? most immigrants that come here are low skilled workers, doing shit that most americans are not willing to do. and illegal immigration has been falling. if you are serious, way to be xenophobic.
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June 05, 2014, 06:52:32 PM
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is this a troll post or something? most immigrants that come here are low skilled workers, doing shit that most americans are not willing to do.

The problem is that most of the illegals are not doing shit that most americans are not willing to do. The majority of them are joining the street gangs and living of the welfare payments after producing anchor babies.
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June 06, 2014, 08:59:30 AM
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More than one-third of U.S. Nobel prize winners in chemistry, medicine and physics are immigrants:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/06/immigrants-win-one-third-of-u-s-nobel-prizes-in-key-fields
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June 06, 2014, 09:25:34 AM
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The problem is that most of the illegals are not doing shit that most americans are not willing to do. The majority of them are joining the street gangs and living of the welfare payments after producing anchor babies.

He didn't say "illegal". He said immigrant. Can you cite a source for your claim?

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June 06, 2014, 09:28:58 AM
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When you have more population then problems become more exaggerated, this isn't just because of immigrants, many of the problems in the world are simply caused by an exploding population and not enough living space, what you described are symptoms of this problem, it's not just to do with immigrants, it's the fact our planet simply isn't big enough to hold this many people never mind in the concentrated cities where everybody wants to live.
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June 06, 2014, 09:32:47 AM
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The problem is that most of the illegals are not doing shit that most americans are not willing to do. The majority of them are joining the street gangs and living of the welfare payments after producing anchor babies.

He didn't say "illegal". He said immigrant. Can you cite a source for your claim?

Not unless you count his own racist arse as a source which is where he pulls most of his "facts" from.

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June 06, 2014, 09:40:54 AM
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Not unless you count his own racist arse as a source which is where he pulls most of his "facts" from.

lol, very true.

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June 06, 2014, 10:31:48 AM
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He didn't say "illegal". He said immigrant. Can you cite a source for your claim?

I was referring to the illegal immigrants, who form the majority of the immigrant population. I don't have any problem with the legal immigrant population, which pay their taxes and contribute to the American economy. In fact, I believe that the US should encourage more legal immigration. The illegals on the other hand are harming the economy.
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June 09, 2014, 12:47:04 PM
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It is interesting to note that the only two recorded decrease in wages caused by immigrants are the very unskilled labor (No high school diploma) & highly skilled labor (college graduates) categories because those are the two most common educational qualification for groups of immigrants moving to US.
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June 09, 2014, 12:55:56 PM
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It is interesting to note that the only two recorded decrease in wages caused by immigrants are the very unskilled labor (No high school diploma) & highly skilled labor (college graduates) categories because those are the two most common educational qualification for groups of immigrants moving to US.
However, this is not necessarily a bad thing, because it will gradually push US citizens in the unskilled labor category to study harder and apply for better jobs because their low paying jobs are taken by immigrants and they also have easier access to education compared to their less fortunate immigrant counterparts & it will also make those in the highly skilled labor section more competitive and strive to improve in their jobs so that they can beat the skilled immigrants.

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June 09, 2014, 07:24:54 PM
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US already pass the point of no return regarding immigration issue.

Couple with high inflation, middle class are being squeeze from top and below.
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