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June 10, 2014, 03:29:14 AM
Last edit: June 10, 2014, 07:07:41 AM by bryant.coleman
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US already pass the point of no return regarding immigration issue.
Couple with high inflation, middle class are being squeeze from top and below.

When there are stupid laws such as the birthright citizenship, you can expect others to exploit it. Some 20 million illegals will make use of it, to gain the American citizenship. Birth tourism is actually very popular in Turkey and the PRC.
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June 10, 2014, 06:31:32 AM
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And talking about inflation, it is caused by the devaluation of the US dollar.

Strictly speaking, inflation is inflation of the money supply, which causes the devaluation of the dollar, which causes prices to increase.

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June 10, 2014, 06:39:12 AM
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US already pass the point of no return regarding immigration issue.

Couple with high inflation, middle class are being squeeze from top and below.

Yeah, those Native Americans shouldn't have let anyone in. Was all downhill from there. And oh the poor middle classes! My heart bleeds for them.

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June 10, 2014, 07:16:43 AM
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Here is another evidence to the argument that USA is getting adversely affected by Immigrants.

Illegals still get Medicare benefits, but feds vow crackdown, $70M savings

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/7/illegal-aliens-may-lose-of-some-medicare-benefits
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June 10, 2014, 07:20:30 AM
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US already pass the point of no return regarding immigration issue.

Couple with high inflation, middle class are being squeeze from top and below.

Yeah, those Native Americans shouldn't have let anyone in. Was all downhill from there. And oh the poor middle classes! My heart bleeds for them.

you mean they shouldn't have let your people in, as well as the french and and spanish?
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June 10, 2014, 08:01:16 AM
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US already pass the point of no return regarding immigration issue.

Couple with high inflation, middle class are being squeeze from top and below.

Yeah, those Native Americans shouldn't have let anyone in. Was all downhill from there. And oh the poor middle classes! My heart bleeds for them.

You got the point, it is annoying to see the politicians are followed by the majority to pick scapegoats : immigrants, free market, banks, neighbour country, jews ect. when it is usually the State actions that lead to ruin, war and dispair

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June 10, 2014, 08:11:18 AM
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Here is another evidence to the argument that USA is getting adversely affected by Immigrants.

Illegals still get Medicare benefits, but feds vow crackdown, $70M savings

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/7/illegal-aliens-may-lose-of-some-medicare-benefits

Estimated cost of post-9/11 wars: 225,000 lives, up to $4 trillion

http://news.brown.edu/pressreleases/2011/06/warcosts

And you're worried about immigrants?

I would humbly suggest that the ruling elites in the regime in Washington are doing far more damage to the economy than any immigrants could ever do.

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June 10, 2014, 08:24:07 AM
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I would humbly suggest that the ruling elites in the regime in Washington are doing far more damage to the economy than any immigrants could ever do.

There is no denial in that. But this topic was about immigration. I have already given my opinion. I have stated that the United States need to increase the legal immigration (especially that of the highly skilled workers), while discouraging the illegal immigration. Yes... I agree that the war machine has completely destroyed the American economy. But illegal immigration is putting a further drain. 
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June 10, 2014, 08:36:09 AM
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But illegal immigration is putting a further drain. 

It's like worrying about a paper cut on your finger after your legs have been blown off.

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June 10, 2014, 08:50:57 AM
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Exactly, but to ignorant racists immigrants (or 'illegals' as he likes to call them) are always the biggest or most pressing problem, you know, just cos they don't like them and need somebody to blame etc.

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June 15, 2014, 10:12:11 PM
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Exactly, but to ignorant racists immigrants (or 'illegals' as he likes to call them) are always the biggest or most pressing problem, you know, just cos they don't like them and need somebody to blame etc.

A culture is on the bottom of the food chain for a reason.

Any country accepting culture with problems with open arm is inviting all the problems which the culture can not solved in their homeland while giving them a free ticket to breed like there is no tomorrow.

Do you really want to turn a modern advance society we (and our ancestors) all work so hard for into a welfare queen land?
 
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June 15, 2014, 10:21:25 PM
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this happens to any number one country, weather its america or something else in the future

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June 15, 2014, 11:23:15 PM
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I think you should look at I believe the Alabama law, and its effects after it was implemented.
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June 15, 2014, 11:25:25 PM
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I blame the welfare state (wrought by selfishness and political pandering) and erosion of a free market, otherwise immigrants would add value. America is destroying herself. Sorry if I don't go more in-depth on substantiating this opinion.

Can you elaborate on what you mean though by 'erosion of culture'? Culture is a dynamic idea.

This.

Immigrant in the early days (18th to early 20th century) add value to the country. And they don't breed like rabbits.

Personal responsibility and saving were encouraged.


Not so any longer. Seen people abuse the marriage system, family relation to get their entire family into US. They take more than they give because of subsidy and freebie. And they abuse the credit system and commit tax fraud with no consequence.


Poor people have always bread like rabbits, the big difference is that 80 years ago the biggest group that died were kids, today it's old people.
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June 16, 2014, 04:00:30 AM
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Poor people have always bread like rabbits, the big difference is that 80 years ago the biggest group that died were kids, today it's old people.

Poor people don't always breed like rabbits. For example, Moldovia is one of the poorest countries in the world, and the birth rate there is like 1.2 children / woman. On the otherhand, the birth rate for the richest country in the world (Qatar) is around 6 children / woman (only for citizens).
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June 16, 2014, 04:12:11 AM
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The US has always been a country of immigration.

The problem is not with immigration. The problems in most of the countries nowadays (the US included) are caused by the omnipresent cultural marxism.
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June 16, 2014, 04:21:22 AM
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Every american is an immigrant. The so called "pilgrim fathers" were nothing else than European immigrants.
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I'm pretty sure the Native American's where pretty bummed out at the adverse affects of the pale-faces diseased meat, flea infected blankets, and complete annihilation of their primary source of food, clothing and shelter as well.

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June 16, 2014, 04:55:06 AM
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The US has always been a country of immigration.
The problem is not with immigration. The problems in most of the countries nowadays (the US included) are caused by the omnipresent cultural marxism.

Times have changed. What occurred two centuries ago can't go on now, without any consequences. Right now the American policy is to punish the legal immigrants and to encourage the illegal ones. That is wrong.
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June 16, 2014, 08:58:51 AM
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Having young and hungry people that arrive in your country to work hard, do unpleasant jobs to feed their family create wealth and confort for both the immigrants and the natives

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June 16, 2014, 01:42:02 PM
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The current high rate of immigration into the United States of America has adverse environmental impacts upon America, and upon the world as a whole. As an example consider the impact of a typical family of seven, immigrating from a country where their owning a car was highly unlikely. When they come to America they are likely to acquire cars (0.76 cars per family member). For every mile they drive, they pollute and deplete resources that could have been relatively unaffected had they continued their prior lifestyle. The act of border crossing enables them to make lifestyle changes that adversely affect the environment; by becoming Americans they adopt the consumption and pollution patterns of the world's most environmentally destructive lifestyle.

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