Are Physical Crytocurrencies losing its appeal to investors/collectors?

[wheresmycoin]

With the new regulations, producers of Physical Crytocurrencies are not shipping out coins with digitally loaded btc/ltc.
it seems meaningless and pointless to receive empty Physical Crytocurrencies.
lealana are producing unloaded coins for the 5/10ltc which are supposed to be limited mintage, seems only the 25ltc and 1ltc series one are of collectible value now.
looks like Physical Crytocurrencies are losing its appeal to investors/collectors.

Is it just me or does anyone here feel the same as me?

[Dajve]

It's not pointless. Just load them up yourself. Probably safer that way as well.

[adamselene]

They only had more appeal in the beginning because of their novelty and the fact that BTC were cheap. The regs probably had some impact though.

[Catmoonglow]

I realy dont' understand the queastion. Why would they loose it?

[311]

I never understood their appeal in the first place. Seemed silly paying overpriced coins. The money they were going for was silly, so I guess it was a good investment.

[waldox]

i like  physical silver and gold
but its hard to use thats why fiat was invented
its hard to send physical silver and gold around the world
the world is very global now with plane travel, internet, phone calls etc
we do business/trade with global participants, so silver and gold will never be the commonly used currency again like in roman times

bitcoin is the new and improved fiat 2.0

[wheresmycoin]

It's not pointless. Just load them up yourself. Probably safer that way as well.

safer that way, doesn't seem to have collector's value when its received unloaded.

[wheresmycoin]

I realy dont' understand the queastion. Why would they loose it?

physical cryptocurrencies now are sold unloaded/empty, it has a feel of buying usual/silver coins instead of cryptocurrencies.

[wheresmycoin]

I never understood their appeal in the first place. Seemed silly paying overpriced coins. The money they were going for was silly, so I guess it was a good investment.

its a good investment at the price its going for,
physical ones are more troublesome to sell/spend, so you always have btc/ltc which you will never sell.
it acts as a hedge in case you sold too early/cheaply.

[Ron~Popeil]

I think this was more of a novelty or collectors item. They would make a really nice gift as well if anyone is thinking of getting me one. 

[Melbustus]

When Mike Caldwell released the first Casascius coins in 2011, the idea was simply to prove a concept (tangible bitcoin), and provide another means to get people interested in bitcoin. They were intended to be given away, or carried around as conversation starters. I did both, and they worked very well. The coins I gave out as stocking stuffers got several family members interested in bitcoin, and for a year or two, I always had a Casascius coin in my wallet, ready to pull out when some gold-bug complained that you can't touch bitcoin.

Obviously Casascius coins are now rare collectors' items, especially since the FinCEN threats caused Mike to shut down.

To people complaining about the premiums on these coins: they are fascinating remnants of bitcoin's early history; both the original intent and why they are no longer produced are intimately tied to bitcoin's character. Such things tend to be valued by people; we are creatures of nostalgia and many of us have the collector gene. For comparison, look at the premiums on some gold coins that only had a mintage in the hundreds... They may be worth $1000 in gold value, but many of those coins can sell for 5 or 6 figures due to rarity value and/or historical significance. Calculate the premium percentage on those....sheesh.

Anyways, Mike produced beautiful coins, which helped me, at least, generate interest in bitcoin in the (relatively) early days. I hope, and expect, that their collector value will continue to be significant as time goes by.

[smoothie]

The coins I have sold were meant for two reasons:

1. To help teach others about Bitcoin and Litecoin

2. As a collectible.

Personally I've found that coins that are loaded that you tuck away you generally stray away from trading with. Meaning you have stronger hands when it comes to holding on to your coins.

Perhaps people who make paper wallets can understand.

It's like the saying "Set it and forget it" ...only it's more like "Create it, tuck it away, and forget about it for years".

I still allow customers to fund their own coins before I ship them. I just do not fund the coins personally as I do not care to handle customer coins currently for that.

If you fund the coins prior to me shipping there are two things that come into play:

1. The holograms do not get marked with my laser "BUYER FUNDED".

2. You assume the risks that go along with shipping funded coins via USPS Registered Mail. Even though none of my packages have ever gone missing, it isn't impossible for that to happen.

Personally I would not want any coins I ordered to be funded by me then shipped to me, hence it isn't something I advocate, but will accommodate should a buyer want that.

Physical crypto currency (I believe) is more interesting that physical gold and silver bullion. It adds another dimension to it as well as the ability to get educated about crypto.

Just my 0.02 BTC

[Ron~Popeil]

The coins I have sold were meant for two reasons:

1. To help teach others about Bitcoin and Litecoin

2. As a collectible.

Personally I've found that coins that are loaded that you tuck away you generally stray away from trading with. Meaning you have stronger hands when it comes to holding on to your coins.

Perhaps people who make paper wallets can understand.

It's like the saying "Set it and forget it" ...only it's more like "Create it, tuck it away, and forget about it for years".

I still allow customers to fund their own coins before I ship them. I just do not fund the coins personally as I do not care to handle customer coins currently for that.

If you fund the coins prior to me shipping there are two things that come into play:

1. The holograms do not get marked with my laser "BUYER FUNDED".

2. You assume the risks that go along with shipping funded coins via USPS Registered Mail. Even though none of my packages have ever gone missing, it isn't impossible for that to happen.

Personally I would not want any coins I ordered to be funded by me then shipped to me, hence it isn't something I advocate, but will accommodate should a buyer want that.

Physical crypto currency (I believe) is more interesting that physical gold and silver bullion. It adds another dimension to it as well as the ability to get educated about crypto.

Just my 0.02 BTC

Have you had any issues with any government agencies? These would make awesome Christmas gifts.

[waldox]

in india they make .1 btc and smaller denomination coins
i saw it in a video last year on bitcoins in india

[smoothie]

The coins I have sold were meant for two reasons:

1. To help teach others about Bitcoin and Litecoin

2. As a collectible.

Personally I've found that coins that are loaded that you tuck away you generally stray away from trading with. Meaning you have stronger hands when it comes to holding on to your coins.

Perhaps people who make paper wallets can understand.

It's like the saying "Set it and forget it" ...only it's more like "Create it, tuck it away, and forget about it for years".

I still allow customers to fund their own coins before I ship them. I just do not fund the coins personally as I do not care to handle customer coins currently for that.

If you fund the coins prior to me shipping there are two things that come into play:

1. The holograms do not get marked with my laser "BUYER FUNDED".

2. You assume the risks that go along with shipping funded coins via USPS Registered Mail. Even though none of my packages have ever gone missing, it isn't impossible for that to happen.

Personally I would not want any coins I ordered to be funded by me then shipped to me, hence it isn't something I advocate, but will accommodate should a buyer want that.

Physical crypto currency (I believe) is more interesting that physical gold and silver bullion. It adds another dimension to it as well as the ability to get educated about crypto.

Just my 0.02 BTC

Have you had any issues with any government agencies? These would make awesome Christmas gifts.

No. Feel free to purchase them for xmas gifts when the time comes around. Last year was pretty crazy during the month of December and into the months after.

[wheresmycoin]

When Mike Caldwell released the first Casascius coins in 2011, the idea was simply to prove a concept (tangible bitcoin), and provide another means to get people interested in bitcoin. They were intended to be given away, or carried around as conversation starters. I did both, and they worked very well. The coins I gave out as stocking stuffers got several family members interested in bitcoin, and for a year or two, I always had a Casascius coin in my wallet, ready to pull out when some gold-bug complained that you can't touch bitcoin.

Obviously Casascius coins are now rare collectors' items, especially since the FinCEN threats caused Mike to shut down.

To people complaining about the premiums on these coins: they are fascinating remnants of bitcoin's early history; both the original intent and why they are no longer produced are intimately tied to bitcoin's character. Such things tend to be valued by people; we are creatures of nostalgia and many of us have the collector gene. For comparison, look at the premiums on some gold coins that only had a mintage in the hundreds... They may be worth $1000 in gold value, but many of those coins can sell for 5 or 6 figures due to rarity value and/or historical significance. Calculate the premium percentage on those....sheesh.

Anyways, Mike produced beautiful coins, which helped me, at least, generate interest in bitcoin in the (relatively) early days. I hope, and expect, that their collector value will continue to be significant as time goes by.

the 1btc error coin was going for 3X or more in 2013.
i used to have a 1btc to fiddle/play around with when they were cheaper, but stopped touching them ever since the last spike in price.

[Bobsurplus]

The problem is simple, people are asking entirely way too much. Some of the premiums are just crazy, especially if you believe that btc will hit 10K or more in the near future, which I do believe.

Let me give you an example.

Lets say your selling a 1btc coin and asking 5 btc. I have seen it already so I'll just use this number.

if btc hits 10K you'll need to find someone who's willing to pay you 40K on top of the face value when you go to sell it. That's crazy..

[wheresmycoin]

The coins I have sold were meant for two reasons:

1. To help teach others about Bitcoin and Litecoin

2. As a collectible.

Personally I've found that coins that are loaded that you tuck away you generally stray away from trading with. Meaning you have stronger hands when it comes to holding on to your coins.

Perhaps people who make paper wallets can understand.

It's like the saying "Set it and forget it" ...only it's more like "Create it, tuck it away, and forget about it for years".

I still allow customers to fund their own coins before I ship them. I just do not fund the coins personally as I do not care to handle customer coins currently for that.

If you fund the coins prior to me shipping there are two things that come into play:

1. The holograms do not get marked with my laser "BUYER FUNDED".

2. You assume the risks that go along with shipping funded coins via USPS Registered Mail. Even though none of my packages have ever gone missing, it isn't impossible for that to happen.

Personally I would not want any coins I ordered to be funded by me then shipped to me, hence it isn't something I advocate, but will accommodate should a buyer want that.

Physical crypto currency (I believe) is more interesting that physical gold and silver bullion. It adds another dimension to it as well as the ability to get educated about crypto.

Just my 0.02 BTC

the 25ltc silver are out of production permanantly?
i'm thinking of getting a 25ltc.

[wheresmycoin]

in india they make .1 btc and smaller denomination coins
i saw it in a video last year on bitcoins in india

think we'll see smaller and smaller demoninations, 1btc becoming rarer

[wheresmycoin]

The problem is simple, people are asking entirely way too much. Some of the premiums are just crazy, especially if you believe that btc will hit 10K or more in the near future, which I do believe.

Let me give you an example.

Lets say your selling a 1btc coin and asking 5 btc. I have seen it already so I'll just use this number.

if btc hits 10K you'll need to find someone who's willing to pay you 40K on top of the face value when you go to sell it. That's crazy..

40k for 10k , 30k premium is huge.. lesser buyer would be able to afford that..