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November 12, 2014, 08:06:52 PM
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BYTECENT

I had already included IconicExpert in THE WALL OF SHAME for his very irregular -and explained in detail in this thread- involvement in the case of the BC community donations for a proposed Wall Street event that never took place.
and yet you bought into his IPO  Grin Grin

Yes. As detailed at the time -and fully available here- I happen to believe that, while inexcusably clumsy, lazy and inconsiderate, his deception of the BC donors wasn't either a scam or a theft.

I bought, very modestly, into BYC IPO because I also believed it was a great idea with plenty of potential. To this point even, I choose to believe -at the risk of being possibly wrong-, that BYC is not a scam, just a mess caused by the erratic, absurd and ultimately self damaging actions of this individual, IconicExpert, that, for some egocentric, unmanageable personal problem, in my opinion, chooses always to destroy even his most promising projects for no apparent reason other than to gain enormous amounts of totally negative publicity.

It's quite baffling to me, actually.  

EDIT TO ADD (11-16-2014):

Forced, no doubt, by Bittrex, there was a period of 48 hours in which every investors in Bytecent could sell their coins against a wall at 50k satoshis. To me that means the launch, again, is clean since everyone had the opportunity to cash out of the unexpected mess and, since, the mess seems to have stabilized and it appears that mining is what it should have been from the beginning.

The events of the past days though have offered yet another vision of a very disturbed, insecure man in IconicExpert and, consequently, I will not be supporting Bytecent even after having corrected the mess. I wish him and every remaining investor good luck though.
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November 12, 2014, 08:40:03 PM
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What a funny thread.  Grin

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November 23, 2014, 08:31:29 AM
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STAY AWAY FROM BAY

Zimbeck is up to here in personal debts and is more than probably selling his Black Halo ideas to Pump&Dump groups (probably the Black Hand; possibly several) to get access to quick cash. Everything is vaporware there, nothing at all is new and when and if it is and works, it will be first in BlackCoin. IF, being the operative word. In any case, none of it is of any real value for regulation will be implemented in crypto long before any real decentralized market place or decentralized form of payment really takes effect. Mind you, no one has come even remotely close to DarkSend and no one uses it either.

But, above all, please pay attention to all the flashing red flags, ok?
1.- Self moderated thread. Don't believe the crap: Only reason for it is to avoid posts like this one you are reading to be posted there. Because they have a lot to hide and that is the only way they can pretend no one knows their trick.

2.- Read the thread. How come all of a sudden such an amount of "enthusiasts" of the project, post again and again, them all being either newbies or juniors? Draw your own conclusions... ok, I'll do it for you: They are sock puppets; accounts that are operated by a very small amount of people probably working for the likes of Bobsurplus Prometheous, Black Hand, others or a combination of several.

3.- They pretend to have sold a lot in the ICO... Thousands of BTC. Let me tell you this: Even if you would be selling $100 bills in crypto for 90% of its value in today's alts, you wouldn't sell "thousands of BTC". There's simply no money left in crypto. It's all gone to the P&D groups and the crooked devs. Gonzo. I don't care what you offer, you won't get an ico going over 200BTC no matter if you invent something that is better than sliced bread. There's simply no cash, period. How they do it you ask? Well, not discounting than the exchanges could do anything for money, misrepresent figures included, let's assume that BTER did not and they really "sold" thousands of BTC in BAY. If that was the case, they sold it to themselves. You know the old trick? The right hand pays the left hand and everything goes to the same pocket. Trust nothing but what you can see. And what is that? 20-30 BTC per 24-hour volume in Bittrex. You don't need to look anywhere else. That tells you that roughly 10BTC was invested and another 10BTC was divested. Or dumped. Use your brain, ok?

Yep, you are going to read a lot of answers to this post, you'll see. Pay attention and you'll see the same newbie accounst and a host of new ones, pretending its FUD. Use your brain. Or throw your money away. Your call.
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You know the old trick? The right hand pays the left hand and everything goes to the same pocket. Trust nothing but what you can see. And what is that? 20-30 BTC per 24-hour volume in Bittrex. You don't need to look anywhere else. That tells you that roughly 10BTC was invested and another 10BTC was divested. Or dumped. Use your brain, ok?

Heh, was just thinking about this yesterday.

Say you have 10k BTC, and want to make a lot more BTC and don't want to pump a shitcoin becuase it's a little risky/not profitable enough.

So you find people to hold onto 5-10 or your BTC each out of let's say 3k BTC. Fair number, probably don't need it immediately because you've got another 7k to live off of and buy your hookers and coke.

Then you host an ICO, with explicit insctructions to these people that 95% of the 5-10 BTC you handed them be used to buy the ICO, and the other 5% goes to their pocket. I guess you could do this step yourself, but let's be honest, this shits all streamlined now.

Then, you wait for all the BTC to end up in the escrow account, and rake in all the extra profit because people that aren't involved go "OH WOW! 3k BTC in interest!" .. and shit the bed as they slam the buy button.

Then, the ICO ends, and you're left holding the bag for months at more often than not a huge loss while these fucks drag ass and get their money back to them however the escrow was set up.

Then they manage to give the impression of progress, while countless more schemes pop up. You're basically left watching these people move at about the slowest speed possible, while milking you for all you've got.

I think it's time to start demanding the cheese, rather than continue to sit here and let the milking continue..

And it's only at the end of fall, that we discover it was naught but the wind that knew when one particular leaf was to fall from one particular tree, only to land in one distinct spot .. to be left for an eternity, and waste its time in a wait sublime. C0A2A1C4
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November 23, 2014, 05:12:18 PM
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That is exactly the scenario in BAY, in my opinion. Of course these things cannot be proven... especially if the guys are in the Far East and therefore away from regular law authorities. But do you need proof? Really? Why? At the expense of your hard earned money? I don't think so. BTC is a gamble enough already and at least you know you are not going to be conned (although the price will continue being manipulated in extreme) AND you have the opportunity already to insure your investment through hedging if the risk is too much for you.

But handing it over to the BAY Zimbeck and his minions? Nah, you know better.
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November 24, 2014, 07:36:04 AM
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STAY AWAY FROM BAY

Zimbeck is up to here in personal debts and is more than probably selling his Black Halo ideas to Pump&Dump groups (probably the Black Hand; possibly several) to get access to quick cash. Everything is vaporware there, nothing at all is new and when and if it is and works, it will be first in BlackCoin. IF, being the operative word. In any case, none of it is of any real value for regulation will be implemented in crypto long before any real decentralized market place or decentralized form of payment really takes effect. Mind you, no one has come even remotely close to DarkSend and no one uses it either.

But, above all, please pay attention to all the flashing red flags, ok?
1.- Self moderated thread. Don't believe the crap: Only reason for it is to avoid posts like this one you are reading to be posted there. Because they have a lot to hide and that is the only way they can pretend no one knows their trick.

2.- Read the thread. How come all of a sudden such an amount of "enthusiasts" of the project, post again and again, them all being either newbies or juniors? Draw your own conclusions... ok, I'll do it for you: They are sock puppets; accounts that are operated by a very small amount of people probably working for the likes of Bobsurplus Prometheous, Black Hand, others or a combination of several.

3.- They pretend to have sold a lot in the ICO... Thousands of BTC. Let me tell you this: Even if you would be selling $100 bills in crypto for 90% of its value in today's alts, you wouldn't sell "thousands of BTC". There's simply no money left in crypto. It's all gone to the P&D groups and the crooked devs. Gonzo. I don't care what you offer, you won't get an ico going over 200BTC no matter if you invent something that is better than sliced bread. There's simply no cash, period. How they do it you ask? Well, not discounting than the exchanges could do anything for money, misrepresent figures included, let's assume that BTER did not and they really "sold" thousands of BTC in BAY. If that was the case, they sold it to themselves. You know the old trick? The right hand pays the left hand and everything goes to the same pocket. Trust nothing but what you can see. And what is that? 20-30 BTC per 24-hour volume in Bittrex. You don't need to look anywhere else. That tells you that roughly 10BTC was invested and another 10BTC was divested. Or dumped. Use your brain, ok?

Yep, you are going to read a lot of answers to this post, you'll see. Pay attention and you'll see the same newbie accounst and a host of new ones, pretending its FUD. Use your brain. Or throw your money away. Your call.


The fact is you haven't provided any FACTS, just conjecture but your opinions actually crashed the price so its just as likely you are the scammer smashing coins down and then buying the dips.

I don't have a problem with people highlighting scams. I just don't think this looks like one. For one you have a known face in crypto putting their name on the coin which would be very stupid of him if this was a scam. Ahs there EVER been a bonafide scam from somone who has put their real name on a coin, I mean real scam where the guys just run off and it was all lies? Moderated thread? So what? Sockpuppets, show me a thread that doesn't have them? The truth is we know Black Halo has smart contracts and so this kind of project needs smart contracts working for it to work. Common sense would say this is not only legit but also a very exciting project that is bringing together real known tech into a killer trading project.

You got to give more than hunches otherwise you look like the scammer not them. I'm not saying your are wrong but you have given opinion forward as facts which is misleading. You basicically have given zero to prove its a scam.


As you have given your hunch I'll give mine. This in a sea of scams and shitcoins is golden and held medium to long term is gonna make a lot of people very rich. To those people you convinced its a scam you are doing them a great disservice cause you scared some away from a brilliant project that has real world utility and potential. 
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November 24, 2014, 08:22:12 AM
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STAY AWAY FROM BAY

Zimbeck is up to here in personal debts and is more than probably selling his Black Halo ideas to Pump&Dump groups (probably the Black Hand; possibly several) to get access to quick cash. Everything is vaporware there, nothing at all is new and when and if it is and works, it will be first in BlackCoin. IF, being the operative word. In any case, none of it is of any real value for regulation will be implemented in crypto long before any real decentralized market place or decentralized form of payment really takes effect. Mind you, no one has come even remotely close to DarkSend and no one uses it either.

But, above all, please pay attention to all the flashing red flags, ok?
1.- Self moderated thread. Don't believe the crap: Only reason for it is to avoid posts like this one you are reading to be posted there. Because they have a lot to hide and that is the only way they can pretend no one knows their trick.

2.- Read the thread. How come all of a sudden such an amount of "enthusiasts" of the project, post again and again, them all being either newbies or juniors? Draw your own conclusions... ok, I'll do it for you: They are sock puppets; accounts that are operated by a very small amount of people probably working for the likes of Bobsurplus Prometheous, Black Hand, others or a combination of several.

3.- They pretend to have sold a lot in the ICO... Thousands of BTC. Let me tell you this: Even if you would be selling $100 bills in crypto for 90% of its value in today's alts, you wouldn't sell "thousands of BTC". There's simply no money left in crypto. It's all gone to the P&D groups and the crooked devs. Gonzo. I don't care what you offer, you won't get an ico going over 200BTC no matter if you invent something that is better than sliced bread. There's simply no cash, period. How they do it you ask? Well, not discounting than the exchanges could do anything for money, misrepresent figures included, let's assume that BTER did not and they really "sold" thousands of BTC in BAY. If that was the case, they sold it to themselves. You know the old trick? The right hand pays the left hand and everything goes to the same pocket. Trust nothing but what you can see. And what is that? 20-30 BTC per 24-hour volume in Bittrex. You don't need to look anywhere else. That tells you that roughly 10BTC was invested and another 10BTC was divested. Or dumped. Use your brain, ok?

Yep, you are going to read a lot of answers to this post, you'll see. Pay attention and you'll see the same newbie accounst and a host of new ones, pretending its FUD. Use your brain. Or throw your money away. Your call.


The fact is you haven't provided any FACTS, just conjecture but your opinions actually crashed the price so its just as likely you are the scammer smashing coins down and then buying the dips.

I don't have a problem with people highlighting scams. I just don't think this looks like one. For one you have a known face in crypto putting their name on the coin which would be very stupid of him if this was a scam. Ahs there EVER been a bonafide scam from somone who has put their real name on a coin, I mean real scam where the guys just run off and it was all lies? Moderated thread? So what? Sockpuppets, show me a thread that doesn't have them? The truth is we know Black Halo has smart contracts and so this kind of project needs smart contracts working for it to work. Common sense would say this is not only legit but also a very exciting project that is bringing together real known tech into a killer trading project.

You got to give more than hunches otherwise you look like the scammer not them. I'm not saying your are wrong but you have given opinion forward as facts which is misleading. You basicically have given zero to prove its a scam.


As you have given your hunch I'll give mine. This in a sea of scams and shitcoins is golden and held medium to long term is gonna make a lot of people very rich. To those people you convinced its a scam you are doing them a great disservice cause you scared some away from a brilliant project that has real world utility and potential. 

First of all thank you but you are giving me way too much influence, which could be flattering if true but being that it is not, it just an exercise in futility, meaningless. I don't influence the trading prices in ANY manner. The coin is trading now near the highs, it's been so, once again, proof that this thread has practically no influence at all.

Second, you may not know me, although when you judge someone you should first do some research. When I post, if I own the coin (which is never), I state I own and since when. It's called FULL DISCLOSURE. If I post anything negative, obviously I am not planning on owning the shit any time; if I post something positive, on the other hand, I have done research on that and usually I have intention to make, some time in the future, a modest investment in it. And, to further clarify, I do not INVEST in alt coins, I do swing trade, not invest.

Third, if you read the OP, you'll quickly find that the reason for the WALL OF SHAME is to respond to the absolute impunity existing in alts and translating into massive amounts of scams. There's no "burden of proof". And the reason there isn't is because the scammers/developers don't need to comply with ANY rules at all to bring forth their scams. They can lie, they can mislead, the can cheat... and the do. Blatantly. With total impunity. This WALL came out as an attempt to rein on that "wild west" mentality. The rules of the game now are leveled, equal to both parts. Fair enough?

I did not just give my opinion on BAY, I gave quite a few known facts and a few obvious red flags that support, based on experience, my overall opinion that this is a scam and that, consequently, should be avoided. You think differently, be my guest and buy it by the boatloads... at least you will not be able to claim you were misled when the bubble burst in your face. And burst it will. And you know the nice thing about the whole thing? we will not have to wait too long -just a few months max- to know who was right and who was wrong.

You mention a point which could be quite valid, the fact that the manager of the project or visible head is a well known name in alts... That, since the only real value of ALL alts is the reputation of its devs, was a very strong consideration... but, ultimately, one has to do what every investigator ALWAYS does when investigation murders or other crimes: Follow the money. By his own admission, Zimbeck is -or was- is dire debt. To a point that it was drowning him and even affecting his work (his own admission). And that changes the game completely for anyone in need if, obviously, vulnerable to dubious offers which under different circumstances that same person wouldn't ever hear. So your "point" is thus explained away.

But I also pointed out to a FACT that is just an obvious fantasy: The collection of 3,000BTC in the ICO. Over 1.1 million dollars. For nothing, nothing at all. Something that will be implemented, when and if, earlier in another coin and the name of a dev drowning in dev. Do the math. And I mentioned thre different examples, one of them, BRO, supported by the single most promising background project ever attempted in crypto (an online casino) and the support not of a well known dev, but a dozen or more of the most famous and richest poker players in the world. After one month and one day of ICO, a total of less than 300BTC were collected... 1,000BTC, not in your dreams: Typical case of right hand pays the left hand. Vaporware. And major -albeit slow- dumping ALREADY in progress. It is called "circumstantial evidence".

Not trying to convince you, though. Please go ahead and make millions with the scam. I'll post just how wrong I was when you are driving your lambo and own half of the Mediterranean islands. I hope though that some less "expert" investors are spared of just one more, and not very elaborate scam.
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Thanks for documenting and archiving the events of the BitBay money gathering jamboree. As we discussed in other threads and you pointed out here as well, there is no way an ICO could collect 3000 BTC in five days in this over-scammed and depressed market. The volume, the lack of transparency, the army of newbie nicks whom job is to repeat the message over and over how rich everybody will be be very soon and all other circumstantial evidence indicate that it is a scam.

Zimbeck is a very talented young man and it is sad to see that he ended up in assisting a shameful money collecting operation.
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November 24, 2014, 08:56:09 PM
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it's easy to steal online and get away

ethereum platform references ---- nick szabo - the father of smart contracts - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Szabo
gav wood - the father and creator/coder of piece of shzit etherieum platform - http://gavwood.com
butterin vitalic - the little freak scammer left to take care of broken shzit platform which he is forking nonstop - he don't even believe in crypto so is gav wood before he made millions. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1979233.80
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November 26, 2014, 07:05:57 AM
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MORE ON BAY. STAY AWAY!

Price is now, more or less, around the ICO's. Do not be fooled into believing the the selling will stop, because it will not. It is being relentless although contained, but make no mistake about it: These scammers want your money. They have hundreds of millions of coins to unload, hundreds of millions. And the paid NOTHING for them, understand. It's all profit, no matter if they sell at 250 sat, at 200, at 150 or even at 25 sat. All if profit. And you, the ICO buyers, and those buying from them still, will be holding the bag. As stated above, the scam success depends on you -or enough people- believing they actually sold 1 billion coins for 3,000 BTC. They did not. Not even close. They sold them to themselves, which means they did not sell at all. Not more than a few hundred BTC, at the most. The rest is right hand paying left hand and everything to the same pocket.

There's no connection with Alibaba either, that was just taking advantage of the brouahaha made by the successful IPO of Alibaba in the American stock market. There's absolutely nothing behind this project, nothing whatsoever. Just an elaborate and yet quite transparent scam. I will not worn anyone anymore. You have been told. Just stay away and let the scam manifest itself. You don't need to be hurt by this one.
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November 27, 2014, 09:09:19 PM
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MORE ON BAY. STAY AWAY!

Price is now, more or less, around the ICO's. Do not be fooled into believing the the selling will stop, because it will not. It is being relentless although contained, but make no mistake about it: These scammers want your money. They have hundreds of millions of coins to unload, hundreds of millions. And the paid NOTHING for them, understand. It's all profit, no matter if they sell at 250 sat, at 200, at 150 or even at 25 sat. All if profit. And you, the ICO buyers, and those buying from them still, will be holding the bag. As stated above, the scam success depends on you -or enough people- believing they actually sold 1 billion coins for 3,000 BTC. They did not. Not even close. They sold them to themselves, which means they did not sell at all. Not more than a few hundred BTC, at the most. The rest is right hand paying left hand and everything to the same pocket.

There's no connection with Alibaba either, that was just taking advantage of the brouahaha made by the successful IPO of Alibaba in the American stock market. There's absolutely nothing behind this project, nothing whatsoever. Just an elaborate and yet quite transparent scam. I will not worn anyone anymore. You have been told. Just stay away and let the scam manifest itself. You don't need to be hurt by this one.

You sadly lack any reasoning or guidance, this is sad you can get help for this illness i wish you luck in finding it on-time i truly do..

The whole they brought 2000+ of the 3000 total then which pays the right-hand bla bla you use your right hand clearly to much, my point >>
 
YOU ARE VERY GOOD AT IMAGING SO TRY THIS, TRY IMAGINE I AM THE (DEV OR AN INSIDER) OK NOW IMAGINE I BROUGHT INTO THE ICO LIKE EVERYONE ELSE AS ADVERTISED DAY ONE 252 SAT PRICE!!

(THAT WAS IMPORTANT FOR YOUR BRAIN PAY ATTENTION TOO)

BETWEEN US WE HAVE 2000 BTC WORTH OF BITBAY (QUITE ALOT) lol.

NOW SHERLOCK WE KNOW THE UPGRADES SMART CONTRACTS ETC ARE JUST AROUND THE CORNER SO WHY WOULD WE SELL FOR LESS THEN WE PAID?? LMAO! WHERE IS THE PROFIT? SO WHERE WOULD THE PROFIT BE AT 25 SAT???(PLEASE EXPLAIN)

YOU CLOWNS WOULD BE COMICAL IF PEOPLE WAS NOT LOOSING OUT, BECAUSE OF YOU, SCUM BAG..

Now i leave you to wake up if you believe you are doing good just understand you are a horrible little turd making weak hands sell and lose money. (how many do you have now?)

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YOUR BULLSHIT CONSPIRACYS AND RETARDED WRITTEN NEEDS TO STOP GO BACK TO YOUR CORNER BOY...
 
wow self delusion is a such great thing  Shocked

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MORE ON BAY. STAY AWAY!

Price is now, more or less, around the ICO's. Do not be fooled into believing the the selling will stop, because it will not. It is being relentless although contained, but make no mistake about it: These scammers want your money. They have hundreds of millions of coins to unload, hundreds of millions. And the paid NOTHING for them, understand. It's all profit, no matter if they sell at 250 sat, at 200, at 150 or even at 25 sat. All if profit. And you, the ICO buyers, and those buying from them still, will be holding the bag. As stated above, the scam success depends on you -or enough people- believing they actually sold 1 billion coins for 3,000 BTC. They did not. Not even close. They sold them to themselves, which means they did not sell at all. Not more than a few hundred BTC, at the most. The rest is right hand paying left hand and everything to the same pocket.

There's no connection with Alibaba either, that was just taking advantage of the brouahaha made by the successful IPO of Alibaba in the American stock market. There's absolutely nothing behind this project, nothing whatsoever. Just an elaborate and yet quite transparent scam. I will not worn anyone anymore. You have been told. Just stay away and let the scam manifest itself. You don't need to be hurt by this one.

It does make sense, what do you think of Tilecoin, ASIC-8Tile is working hard on it.

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wow self delusion is a such great thing  Shocked

So i ask 3 valid questions that your lover uses to scare people into selling and you give me that lol 

I didn't ask in the polite way you would have probably liked granted but i am new and have yet to learn that you should treat people differently to they treat others.

I ask for forgiveness and that you please answer and explain clearly as if i was 7 my 3 questions...

The ico was pre advertised and day one it costs you 252 sats, everyone buys for that or more as time goes on minimum (252)

if they did buy in then how do they make money selling it for less than they had to pay? (does this really make sense to you?) and could even sell for 25 sats and have profit lol Roll Eyes

Btw they only have 500 btc from the total 3000 so far and they will be released more after work is complete and ready i hope you understand sweetcheeks a scam if one of profit not LOSS.


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If you were someone with the mentality of a 7 year old, it will be ok.

If you were someone with the mentality of  a VERY DENSE 7 year old, it still would be ok.

But being that you have shown to be not only incredibly dense, much more so than any 7 year old would ever be, AND besides that INSULTING snd thoroughly STUPID, any explanation to you would be an exercise in futility.
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Completely bored by this and all current threads.

Just posting to keep my status active, mainly.

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wow self delusion is a such great thing  Shocked

So i ask 3 valid questions that your lover uses to scare people into selling and you give me that lol 

I didn't ask in the polite way you would have probably liked granted but i am new and have yet to learn that you should treat people differently to they treat others.

I ask for forgiveness and that you please answer and explain clearly as if i was 7 my 3 questions...

The ico was pre advertised and day one it costs you 252 sats, everyone buys for that or more as time goes on minimum (252)

if they did buy in then how do they make money selling it for less than they had to pay? (does this really make sense to you?) and could even sell for 25 sats and have profit lol Roll Eyes

Btw they only have 500 btc from the total 3000 so far and they will be released more after work is complete and ready i hope you understand sweetcheeks a scam if one of profit not LOSS.



If you were someone with the mentality of a 7 year old, it will be ok.

If you were someone with the mentality of  a VERY DENSE 7 year old, it still would be ok.

But being that you have shown to be not only incredibly dense, much more so than any 7 year old would ever be, AND besides that INSULTING snd thoroughly STUPID, any explanation to you would be an exercise in futility.
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Threw the mumble i see no answer just an angry man mentioning 7 year olds a little to much..

You have not answered because you are a serial bullshitter, i was a little insulting and again you have my apologies for hoping you get help.

I will not waste another second with you...

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Actually this's 'Wall of Thugs'; it's not shameful to scam people -- it requires skills and it's a task. However scamming Americans is not a skill IMO...

yeah it is shameful buddy.  even the best pickpocket in the world is shameful.  thats why they go on TV and try magician / variety show careers.  at one point in your life you sorta wake up and look in the mirror and say to yourself "what in the fuck am i doing with my life".  If you don't well then i feel sorry for you, for there is much out there that you are missing.  Even being super rich doesnt make a difference, there is a sort of meaning to life/fulfillment that at one point you need to have.

                                 
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Zimbeck is a very talented young man and it is sad to see that he ended up in assisting a shameful money collecting operation.

Well the jury's still quite out on Zimbeck... he seem to have had some talent... for chess. He ranked like 37th at some point I believe -which must be quite hard to do, but not difficult enough to make a living at it-, and he even published a book of chess puzzles ... that doesn't sell any copies either in print or digital form. Other than that, at 31, he's a total failure going nowhere soon having miserably failed at being an actor/model (he got to do a few sessions as an extra in movies and commercials), having even more miserably failed at being a "producer" - I believe somehow he produced a short film no one ever saw-, and even more miserable fail at being a photographer and, at 30, managed to see himself drowning on debt... which are not precisely the "achievements" of "..a very talented young man".

The Black Halo protocol is one that no one uses, no one will ever do, that has brought to Blackcoin nothing but misery, since the price is stagnant at all time lows, 92% from ATH and quickly drifting to shit. Black Halo, smart contracts and Nightmarket or whatever other shit included. So the way I see it Zimbeck is just an opportunistic  individual being paid by scammers -if not being the main one himself, which is the most likely-, to front a scam of pretty big proportions and that is already actively in progress but that, even as scams go, has been caught on time and, consequently, will be aborted in mid-progress. It HAS been aborted, already and Zimbeck and his employers are unable to keep unloading more than a very few BTC per day and at prices that will hit below 200 sat any time now. Since Zimbeck himself absolutely needs to get rid of his stack to cover debt, the unloading will continue and so will the price "progression", while this scam will quickly engross the checkered (pun fully intended) past of this questionably "talented" (relatively at 31 -- happy birthday, by the way...) young man.
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ANOTHER BIG POTENTIAL ICO SCAM for Chinese Bagholders.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg9694945#msg9694945

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.0




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Zimbeck is a very talented young man and it is sad to see that he ended up in assisting a shameful money collecting operation.

Well the jury's still quite out on Zimbeck... he seem to have had some talent... for chess. He ranked like 37th at some point I believe -which must be quite hard to do, but not difficult enough to make a living at it-, and he even published a book of chess puzzles ... that doesn't sell any copies either in print or digital form. Other than that, at 31, he's a total failure going nowhere soon having miserably failed at being an actor/model (he got to do a few sessions as an extra in movies and commercials), having even more miserably failed at being a "producer" - I believe somehow he produced a short film no one ever saw-, and even more miserable fail at being a photographer and, at 30, managed to see himself drowning on debt... which are not precisely the "achievements" of "..a very talented young man".

The Black Halo protocol is one that no one uses, no one will ever do, that has brought to Blackcoin nothing but misery, since the price is stagnant at all time lows, 92% from ATH and quickly drifting to shit. Black Halo, smart contracts and Nightmarket or whatever other shit included. So the way I see it Zimbeck is just an opportunistic  individual being paid by scammers -if not being the main one himself, which is the most likely-, to front a scam of pretty big proportions and that is already actively in progress but that, even as scams go, has been caught on time and, consequently, will be aborted in mid-progress. It HAS been aborted, already and Zimbeck and his employers are unable to keep unloading more than a very few BTC per day and at prices that will hit below 200 sat any time now. Since Zimbeck himself absolutely needs to get rid of his stack to cover debt, the unloading will continue and so will the price "progression", while this scam will quickly engross the checkered (pun fully intended) past of this questionably "talented" (relatively at 31 -- happy birthday, by the way...) young man.

I was referring to the talent regarding mainly to the chess master role. Being an amateur chess player I appreciate the talent of accomplished chess masters. Apart from this, it seems your assessment is quite accurate. It seems David is a nice guy by default configuration, he just doesn't know what he is doing regarding to the Bitbay project, but this in the case of an ICO where peoples' money is involved could be a fatal mistake.
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Zimbeck is a very talented young man and it is sad to see that he ended up in assisting a shameful money collecting operation.

Well the jury's still quite out on Zimbeck... he seem to have had some talent... for chess. He ranked like 37th at some point I believe -which must be quite hard to do, but not difficult enough to make a living at it-, and he even published a book of chess puzzles ... that doesn't sell any copies either in print or digital form. Other than that, at 31, he's a total failure going nowhere soon having miserably failed at being an actor/model (he got to do a few sessions as an extra in movies and commercials), having even more miserably failed at being a "producer" - I believe somehow he produced a short film no one ever saw-, and even more miserable fail at being a photographer and, at 30, managed to see himself drowning on debt... which are not precisely the "achievements" of "..a very talented young man".

The Black Halo protocol is one that no one uses, no one will ever do, that has brought to Blackcoin nothing but misery, since the price is stagnant at all time lows, 92% from ATH and quickly drifting to shit. Black Halo, smart contracts and Nightmarket or whatever other shit included. So the way I see it Zimbeck is just an opportunistic  individual being paid by scammers -if not being the main one himself, which is the most likely-, to front a scam of pretty big proportions and that is already actively in progress but that, even as scams go, has been caught on time and, consequently, will be aborted in mid-progress. It HAS been aborted, already and Zimbeck and his employers are unable to keep unloading more than a very few BTC per day and at prices that will hit below 200 sat any time now. Since Zimbeck himself absolutely needs to get rid of his stack to cover debt, the unloading will continue and so will the price "progression", while this scam will quickly engross the checkered (pun fully intended) past of this questionably "talented" (relatively at 31 -- happy birthday, by the way...) young man.

I was referring to the talent regarding mainly to the chess master role. Being an amateur chess player I appreciate the talent of accomplished chess masters. Apart from this, it seems your assessment is quite accurate. It seems David is a nice guy by default configuration, he just doesn't know what he is doing regarding to the Bitbay project, but this in the case of an ICO where peoples' money is involved could be a fatal mistake.


A "nice guy" who hasn't worked a day in his 31 years of life and is in the habit of not paying his bills, THAT type of nice guy.

By the way, have you read the just posted FAQs on  the BitBay thread? That HAS TO BE the ultimate monument to raw, smoking, unadulterated bullshit... If after reading through that crap the dozen of "investors" still holding the ICO bags don't see clearly and get out of Dodge immediately, they will never see the difference between their asses and their heads. Wow. The mention of Non Disclosure Agreements with vendors is particularly hilarious, but the whole piece is just a riot beginning to end.

But, still, I am puzzled as to how people may be so gullible and not see the evidence in front of them: Who is selling below the ICO price? Just answering that question with the minimum imaginable of common sense will give you the inevitable, obvious answer: There wouldn't be even a minimum market, none whatsoever. And yet they keep on pulling 15-20BTC daily out of the market selling way under 252. Guess who's selling at a "loss"? Remember they paid with the right hand and pocketed that payment with the left hand (first 33% of it, already in pocket. Another coming up in 4 days, the rest a bit later). It is ALL profit, no matter if they sell at 250, at 200 or at 25 sat or lower. All (minus BTER fees), profit, so the selling HAS to continue, no matter the price. Because David HAS TO pay his debts, remember? YOU (the bagholders) are actually paying them.
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