THE WALL OF SHAME

[barabbas]

The level of fraud, scamming and deceit in cryptos, and very specially in the more and more crowded field of alternative currencies, has reached levels that simple common sense would indicate that something's got to give. It is the responsibility of all those who believe cryptocurrencies are a real alternative to fiat, to protect the single most vulnerable aspect, the most damaging of all, the one that makes every "normal person" literally "run for the exits" when cryptocurrencies are mentioned. Everyone knows fraud and deception is rampant. There's no accountability of course -not yet anyway-, and therefore it is kind of inevitable. But it is our obligation, in my opinion, to police the field to the extent that we can, to protect the integrity of the world of alternative currencies. There will always be scamers and schemes to take other people's money, but at least those coming in with greed in their eyes and hope in their hearts, would have a thread that can show some obvious red flags before jumping into those scams that leave always victims and increase the bad reputation of cryptos. Even when caught pants down, all the scamers have to do, is change their handles and they remain anonymous. This has to stop. They also clear their announcement threads of "FUD", a clumsy pretext to delete "inconvenient" posts that otherwise would linger forever and would be available for research. So, not only are they always -or almost always- anonymous, but they always -or almost always- censor and delete posts on their threads that bring about inconvenient subjects, including potential details of their scams. The scams are protected; the devs, hidden under their anonymous and usually multiple handles, remain anonymous and ready for the usual rinse and repeat... well it's time for a little reckoning. Leveling the playing field somewhat, so to speak: Here's the WALL OF SHAME. Every con, every fraud, every red flag will be posted here. And no, the burden of proof will not be on the posters, but on the devs. Enough of this shitty situation in which they can and do hide under several veils with total impunity. A red flag will be enough. If someone deletes [posts and censors users on their threads, that would be their ticket to enter the WALL OF SHAME; If they delete posts that contains relevant questions that they prefer not to answer, they have gained their post on the WALL OF SHAME; if they say "no pre-mine" and there is in fact indications of other ways of accumulating the coins by taking advantage of their situation: WALL OF SHAME...

Everyone is free to act any which way they choose, but the WALL OF SHAME will be here to collect all the bad guys of crypto, their handles, their schemes,                their coins and every other detail that other users would volunteer.

Lets level the playing field.

No more impunity.

Lets eliminate the bad players.

1.- Templar77, real name Carlos R. Torres Ferguson, out of Mexico DF and the shame behind, among others, Universitycoin, Grumpycoin, Libertycoin and, if it comes to fruition, the upcoming X coin. Read about him in the several different threads of those coins. In many of them you won't find hundreds of posts that have been censored, but you will find entire threads with his exploits and those of his associate, Loljosh. Be aware of these guys.

2.- The Doge of Wall Street, aka Eugene (Yevgeniy) Rokhlin and his associate St.GNU. The former is quite public -he participates usually in the "Blackcasts" on YouTube, the later prefers to remain anonymous. He is the "Don" at Blackcoin and there are substantive charges about him/them pre-mining (to the tune of almost half the entire float of BC) the "no pre-mine" Blackcoin. Besides that, they own the multipool that services Blackcoin, as a separate business and used to "strategically buy BC in the open exchanges... when convenient". Convenient, one assumes, for the Don and his "group of investors" (that would be The Black Hand, a group of investors who operates in cahoots with Rokhlin and St.GNU and that in fact determines all the strategies from the inside. This is an organized group, represented by morituri13/dognip in the community (the guy in the infamous flower pants picture of Soepkip), who "donates" to the pool the Titan miner, for instance, and, obviously, determines when and ad what price the pool buys in to proceed with the usual pumps and dumps that are the base of the income of The Black Hand. Meanwhile, The Don and St.GNU continue dumping their estimated 35-40 million blackcoins premined acquired in the early hours/days of the PoW period. There's plenty of info about the schemes all over Bitcointalk, but don't expect anything remotely in that direction in any of the current managed threads other than the ones dedicates to exposing it specifically: The censor, with extraordinary dilligence, every post that even remotely points in that direction.

3.- This is a new one, the most recent: CLOAK. His dev is "Alty", who also uses the handle "TheDagger". He may or may not have pre-mined (still some PoW as of this writing pending), but he certainly doesn't answer pertinent uncomfortable questions like the one about a charge that while the two initial dedicated pools had a hashing rate of less than 20MH, the entire network boasted in excess of 20GH... Mind you, that is a situation that could happen without any devious scheme going on. Nor very usual but certainly possible. But if that were teh case, would you, as a clean dev, take advantage of the opportunity to explain that you in fact are only responsible for "x" amount of the 20GH+...AND show clear proof of it to dispel any doubts? Now if, on the contrary, you not only avoid to provide an explanation but quickly proceed to delete the posts and ban any questioner from the IRC channel, wouldn't that raise a significant red flag? It is certainly not the best way to provide confidence, trust and transparency, is it? So, since it is very cowardly to not just avoid the questions but delete the posts so others don't pose the same lingering questions, the playing field is leveled: If "Alty" or "The Dagger" provide proof positive they did not pre-mine CLOAK, they (he) will be taken down from the WALL OF SHAME. If not, here it is for everyone to be aware (and cautious) about it.

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[peled1986]

List of bitcointalk thieves/scammers:
1. NFDcoin / Din (Edgecoin)
2. ziplibrary (Sharexcoin / ShareCoin)
3. BitOffer (HouseofCoins)
4. Visacoin (Visacoin)

"If you are reading this din, i know what you are thinking, "they were so dumb they deserved it", well no being dumb isn't immoral, stealing peoples money how ever is. Someday you are going to grow old and you are going to die and you are going to have to look back on your life and at that point money wont mean anything, your choices here however might. And if they don't than you have an even worse problem. I do not envy you." - Anon136 (this was said about NFDcoin but it's relevent to all thieves/scammers)

[SyRenity]

Hell, It's about time!

Some more candidates:

• Serial opener of scam IPO's - EDG/LVC/Numus/etc... - using same style
• ShareXcoin exchange operator

[sammy007]

As they say - Hell, It's about time!

Some more candidates:

• Serial opener of scam IPO's - EDG/Numus/etc... - using same style
• ShareXchange operator?

+ Author of GPU Coin, PLX coin and a lot of other shitcoins.

[gg234]

Stackcoin and emiratescoin operators

[KimNam]

interesting, how can you manage to get this information?

estimated 35-40 million blackcoins premined acquired in the early hours/days of the PoW period

i think instamine is more suit than premine for something like this

[dE_logics]

Actually this's 'Wall of Thugs'; it's not shameful to scam people -- it requires skills and it's a task. However scamming Americans is not a skill IMO...

[Vann]

Yes, the level of fraud and misrepresentation in crypto is of epidemic proportions. Making baseless accusations without facts backing them up is also spreading FUD based on ulterior motives. My suggestion for anyone involved in crypto to do their own due diligence, it's not all too difficult to figure out and take baseless accusations for what they are worth.

[liuhou521]

机枪 矿机 怎么不谴责 就是挖了卖 没一点信念

[wf2008]

Yes, too many coins too shameless, today there is a coin out of garbage, UniverseCoin (UNC), secretly dug 50W, each block only 0.25

[duts_bg]

Excellent initiative. Indeed it was high time for that. I strongly believe in the alternative of cryptocurrencies  as a fairer society system. And however, this ruin the status quo of the existing financial system,  it is normal this system to counteract with all forces and resources. Most easily it countered by imposing administrative regulations in the way of our detriment and to their advantage. If we manage to organize our self, our opponents will be much more difficult to deter our growth and success. In this regard, I think that this is an excellent, but not enough exercise, which should be a first step. Without claiming to detail, I can offer a few more steps in this direction:
1. Wall of Honor - where to publish the names of the worthy members of the community and the reasons for their choice.
2. Creating board confidence that under certain rules to choose proven community members.
3. Trust board has the right and obligation to examine each new coin and publish an opinion on it.
4. And the like.

[Hi3899]

Yes, too many coins too shameless, today there is a coin out of garbage, UniverseCoin (UNC), secretly dug 50W, each block only 0.25

Yeah, that 0.25 coins per Block seems a tad low. What's up With that.

[barabbas]

Excellent initiative. Indeed it was high time for that. I strongly believe in the alternative of cryptocurrencies  as a fairer society system. And however, this ruin the status quo of the existing financial system,  it is normal this system to counteract with all forces and resources. Most easily it countered by imposing administrative regulations in the way of our detriment and to their advantage. If we manage to organize our self, our opponents will be much more difficult to deter our growth and success. In this regard, I think that this is an excellent, but not enough exercise, which should be a first step. Without claiming to detail, I can offer a few more steps in this direction:
1. Wall of Honor - where to publish the names of the worthy members of the community and the reasons for their choice.
2. Creating board confidence that under certain rules to choose proven community members.
3. Trust board has the right and obligation to examine each new coin and publish an opinion on it.
4. And the like.

Great idea, especially number one. I would gladly, very gladly create a Wall of Honor that would very successful indeed as a start point for any newcomer to crypto. But I have an initial problem: Who to nominate? I am invested in various coins in which, for now, I haven't detected any semblance of fraud... but others have made some accusations, so... I tell you what: If the developers of a coin come forward and show proof that their coin is CLEAN, they will be immediately included in the Wall of Honor, fair deal?

I for one don't believe -or even appreciate- some great dev that creates a coin and doesn't generously benefit from it, so I am not looking for some ultra-generous saint, just someone who believes in his creation, sticks with it AND is generously rewarded. Under that concept, I would even consider clean some dev that instamine or premine 10% of the total coin for himself... as long as it is in the open, with accessible wallets so every investor can corroborate that they are not dumped or not dumped initially at least and not in quantities that will affect the price of the coin until, at least, it is well established (which means years, not hours).

I believe in volunteerism, so if a board is to be "elected", I'm fine with it. As for "obligations" that's much more difficult, but yes everyone, like now has happened, can and should bring forward their charges. Like I said in the OP: Charges are just that. Everyone is quite free to assign a value to those charges and, subsequently, corroborate them independently or not. I don't believe any "trust board" should do their work for them, beyond the red flag stage, but if others believe it is plausible and convenient, by all means proceed.

In response to "Vann", this, as thoroughly explained in the OP, is only a guide for newcomers and established investors alike. They are especially encouraged to do their own research, but we are not playing here by any rules of the "regular world". This is a wild wild west and the lawlessness of it has only benefited the crooks. Until now. It is time to level the playing field. If you -or anyone else for that matter- consider the allegations posted here as FUD, it is certainly your prerogative. Others, evidently, will find these posts quite useful. And for those who hide nothing and act fair, well not only they have nothing to fear but much to gain if they want to qualify for the WALL OF HONOR. Easy and simple, isn't it? Anyone charged with "baseless accusations", as you put it, is quite free to come here (where there will NEVER, EVER, be any censorship on my part) and debunk those accusations. It is really, really easy: They just have to offer proof that demonstrates that the accusations are in fact baseless. I don't know about you but if I am a developer that stand accused by anyone here, and I am clean, I will be more than happy to come up here and show proof that I am in fact clean. Nobody forces them to do it but it would certainly increase the confidence of holders of the coin and prospective investors, don't you think? And I (and some others here) believe they SHOULD do exactly that. ALL of them. As a norm.

[platorin]

Good idea. I had the same one to point the scammers out. I am quite into alt-coins subforum and I can see new scams daily. I will be adding them to my own thread as well as here. For now, the worst in my opinion are:

1. Sharecoin
2. Cleanwatercoin

[NaXxow]

Good idea. I had the same one to point the scammers out. I am quite into alt-coins subforum and I can see new scams daily. I will be adding them to my own thread as well as here. For now, the worst in my opinion are:

1. Sharecoin
2. Cleanwatercoin

+1
this thread is great.
Zip to the hell.

[kikeda]

stackcoin
neon
levelcoin
asiacoin(pre community takeover)

[coins4meh]

What? Cloak too?

[wahahaha]

As they say - Hell, It's about time!

Some more candidates:

• Serial opener of scam IPO's - EDG/Numus/etc... - using same style
• ShareXchange operator?

yeal ,the same features, they are shit people and shit coin,

[gjhiggins]

it's not shameful to scam people -- it requires skills and it's a task.

Let me get this straight ... your worldview informs you that if an activity "requires skills" and is "a task" then it is inherently morally defensible.

That's most illuminating, thank you for the insight.

Cheers

Graham

[IPCoinz]

This thread can be useful to help consumer protection lawyers file claims against bad actors.  If you have been scammed, you want to create a record here of who scammed you (give as much info as you possibly can; make some calls and do some research to try to get names, addresses, IP addresses, etc), when and how and for how much you were scammed (bullet points that outline the facts of your case), and contact information where YOU (the victim) can be reached if some legal action arises in the future.

The statute of limitations is generally about seven (7) years, meaning that a victim has 7 years to file a suit over a claim in tort relating to these matters.  The law is obviously lagging behind the development of crypto, but within a few years we should see law firms getting active in this field, especially consumer protection law firms, and then if we do this right they could come back to this page and collect data for up to 7 years prior if they happen to be going after a perpetrator.  So dont just use this forum as a blacklist, but use it as a register of complaints in anticipation of potential future legal action and remedies into the far future.

The more detailed info people provide here, the more likely it is that lawyers will scan this thread to find ways to bring law suits and maximize the penalties they can claim against bad guys.  Law is a money game like anything else, and if we develop a rich resource (if we build it) they will come...

[barabbas]

This thread can be useful to help consumer protection lawyers file claims against bad actors.  If you have been scammed, you want to create a record here of who scammed you (give as much info as you possibly can; make some calls and do some research to try to get names, addresses, IP addresses, etc), when and how and for how much you were scammed (bullet points that outline the facts of your case), and contact information where YOU (the victim) can be reached if some legal action arises in the future.

The statute of limitations is generally about seven (7) years, meaning that a victim has 7 years to file a suit over a claim in tort relating to these matters.  The law is obviously lagging behind the development of crypto, but within a few years we should see law firms getting active in this field, especially consumer protection law firms, and then if we do this right they could come back to this page and collect data for up to 7 years prior if they happen to be going after a perpetrator.  So dont just use this forum as a blacklist, but use it as a register of complaints in anticipation of potential future legal action and remedies into the far future.

The more detailed info people provide here, the more likely it is that lawyers will scan this thread to find ways to bring law suits and maximize the penalties they can claim against bad guys.  Law is a money game like anything else, and if we develop a rich resource (if we build it) they will come...

This is a good idea but not the main purpose of the thread. But lawyers demand evidence and precisely this thread is created because the anonymous condition of crypto, where everyone hides under several handles, allows for the crooks to perpetrate their crimes with total impunity, legal and otherwise. They are not required the mos elemental disclosures and to follow the most minimal of rules that allow any business to proceed in the real world. We are hereby taking the same, identical freedoms -sans the fraud part- to point them out as the scamers they are most often than not. No irrefutable evidence needed. The burden of proof is on THEM. And, yes,  it was about time. The free ride is OVER.

This is the equalizer, if you will. You don't need to be a master researcher. You don't need irrefutable evidence. As a matter of fact, you can post anything here and anyone can lie is so they choose, through their teeth: They do. All the time. In their schemes of deception and fraud. I believe that the stronger you make your case, the more valid your claim. Just listing some handles and some coins is not going to achieve much when those crooks perpetrate their next fraud. But is you make a strong case where a modus operandi can be identified and tracked, it will be much easier to identify who is behind which handle and which scheme. The ball then will be on their court to prove that, in fact, they are clean even it if they are following patterns that have been highly suspicious by others in the past. I repeat: The burden of proof is on their shoulders. It is in their interest to fight for their reputations. And those who choose not to do it, well, let them carry on with the consequences. Like I posted in the OP, it is our responsibility to clean crypto and eliminate the bad players; it is the responsibility and burden of the good players to clear their names or handles if they have been compromised.

The playing field is level now.

[barabbas]

it's not shameful to scam people -- it requires skills and it's a task.

Let me get this straight ... your worldview informs you that if an activity "requires skills" and is "a task" then it is inherently morally defensible.

That's most illuminating, thank you for the insight.

Cheers

Graham

This way of seeing things is, unfortunately, quite common in crypto. Among hackers, fraud, thievery and deception are not only NOT negatives but they give them bragging rights withing their community. This used to be only in the world of hackers but since many of them have become greedy developers of crypto, it has, evidently, splashed over. Problem is that hackers are prosecuted in the real world and punished quite harshly, because they are perceived as hurting big corporations, big money. No one cares for the individual small investor that is scammed here, left and right. That's why we are turning the tables on the crooks. The time of reckoning is here and they are going to find more and more difficult to keep on perpetrating their crimes. Hopefully, impunity will be dealt with too, in the near future for these people belong in prison and quite far away from any connection to the internet.

[Coinasaur]

What? Cloak too?

barabbas, aka IconicExpert should be at the top of the list. Don't trust this guy, before you fall for this scam check his post history and do your due diligence.
He has a confirmed at least 5 accounts of alts that he uses to promote his own ideas and to put down those he doesnt agree with.

Here is a list of his accomplishments.
1. He initiated a huge dump of BC and proceeded to blame the BC devs for it when they wouldnt support his event because they wanted to do one of their own. He started an entire smear campaign against BC and all of the people working to making it better.
2. He collected 13,000$ in donations for an event that he was planning involving women walking around on wall st passing out BC cards. The money STILL has not been returned a full month after the cancellation of said event.
3. He announced that he would be promoting XLB, but when the devs decided to do something that didnt agree with his plan, he accused them of dumps again just like he did with BC.
4. His alt accounts tried to start a logo contest for Cloak and when the dev found out who he/they were he pulled his support. So they initiated a smear campaign yet again.

This is the result of a butthurt loser being angry that noone will play with him anymore so he is spreading FUD to anyone who will listen.
It is in your best interests to move on and ignore anything these people say

[mistress]

oh-ooh, nice this thread, i ve just a couple of things to say. i m a newbie but i've already understood that here is the hell, full of fucking scammers! I really don't understand the reason to be anonymous... why? you earn BTC and after you go very soon to change it in fiat value. Don't say not, babies. So it means that if the government wants to say something about you, it's really easy, it is enough to see your banking account. So, why to be anonymous? This is an advantage only for scammers, for fucking scammers,babies, i tell you, don't forget it!
my two cents!

note: don't forget that fucking bastard of honorcoin's dev! Scammer!  eh eh I've never bought one

[barabbas]

What? Cloak too?

barabbas, aka IconicExpert should be at the top of the list. Don't trust this guy, before you fall for this scam check his post history and do your due diligence.
He has a confirmed at least 5 accounts of alts that he uses to promote his own ideas and to put down those he doesnt agree with.

Here is a list of his accomplishments.
1. He initiated a huge dump of BC and proceeded to blame the BC devs for it when they wouldnt support his event because they wanted to do one of their own. He started an entire smear campaign against BC and all of the people working to making it better.
2. He collected 13,000$ in donations for an event that he was planning involving women walking around on wall st passing out BC cards. The money STILL has not been returned a full month after the cancellation of said event.
3. He announced that he would be promoting XLB, but when the devs decided to do something that didnt agree with his plan, he accused them of dumps again just like he did with BC.
4. His alt accounts tried to start a logo contest for Cloak and when the dev found out who he/they were he pulled his support. So they initiated a smear campaign yet again.

This is the result of a butthurt loser being angry that noone will play with him anymore so he is spreading FUD to anyone who will listen.
It is in your best interests to move on and ignore anything these people say

This is the retard that, exposed as he is above, still continues dispelling falsehoods, including the absurdity that I am IconicExpert. Mind you, the only reason he does it, fully knowing it is not true, is to further his agenda with La Mano Nera at BC . But we all know by now quite clearly who is who and what are their motivations. Keep an eye on this guy (although I am pretty sure he has several handles): He is part of a well know and thoroughly researched scam. Be aware.

By the way I believe IconicExpert is indeed pushing CLOAK. At least in his Twitter account he is. Just to keep the perspective in what this imbecile is and what is his agenda.

[barabbas]

oh-ooh, nice this thread, i ve just a couple of things to say. i m a newbie but i've already understood that here is the hell, full of fucking scammers! I really don't understand the reason to be anonymous... why? you earn BTC and after you go very soon to change it in fiat value. Don't say not, babies. So it means that if the government wants to say something about you, it's really easy, it is enough to see your banking account. So, why to be anonymous? This is an advantage only for scammers, for fucking scammers,babies, i tell you, don't forget it!
my two cents!

note: don't forget that fucking bastard of honorcoin's dev! Scammer!  eh eh I've never bought one

There's only one reason to be anonymous. The same reason there is to censor your threads: They have something to hide. There's absolutely no other reason. And anonymity allos them total impunity, on one hand, and the opportunity to do it over and over again. That's why this thread exists.

[barabbas]

Another one bites the dust:

Yadaminer, at CAIx coin. I had been researching the coin because it has had an enormous decline in price and my curiosity was piqued: It could be the end of it or a great investing opportunity. I researched their very confusing and complicated model and had a lot of questions and clarifications. Naturally, I posted them in their forum to get answers. I got some answers -not even close to all the answers- and the ones I got weren't even close to satisfactory. But judge for yourselves: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=513613.new#new

Yadaminer earned his position here, as posted, for being an idiot and a coward. And posting insulting FUD to try to cover the obvious weakness of the coin and the model that, by the way, continues speeding down towards the precipice. I don't know if they are scammers or not, but some of them, at least this Yadaminer, acts like one. Because there's impunity. Not NO FUCKING MORE. If you cannot stand the heat get the fuck out of the kitchen!

[barabbas]

oh-ooh, nice this thread, i ve just a couple of things to say. i m a newbie but i've already understood that here is the hell, full of fucking scammers! I really don't understand the reason to be anonymous... why? you earn BTC and after you go very soon to change it in fiat value. Don't say not, babies. So it means that if the government wants to say something about you, it's really easy, it is enough to see your banking account. So, why to be anonymous? This is an advantage only for scammers, for fucking scammers,babies, i tell you, don't forget it!
my two cents!

note: don't forget that fucking bastard of honorcoin's dev! Scammer!  eh eh I've never bought one

Thank you for your 2 cents but it'd be helpful if you let everyone know why do you think the dev at Honorcoin is a scammer... I myself have put their code in my signature and registered for their wallet because I don't suspect any one and much less if they offer coins for free, but now I am, of course, quite interested. Also, to make more aesthetically pleasing the thread and easier to locate the accused scammers, please everyone BOL or color/bold the names/handles and their coin. Thanks!

[cryptopick]

50BTC.com............

[rayday11]

Colorcoin ---- No POS wallet stuck at 10000

Happycoin----No POS wallet stuck at 20160

[heartastack]

Putting cloak on the wall of shame and then proceeding to write a wall of complete speculative nonsense? Is there room for barabbas on the wall of shame for being a proven fud artist wanker?

[Alty]

If "Alty" or "The Dagger" provide proof positive they did not pre-mine CLOAK, they (he) will be taken down from the WALL OF SHAME. If not, here it is for everyone to be aware (and cautious) about it.

barabbas : you only need to look at the block explorer to see this coin was not premined.

Here is a link to the block explorer, we gave the first 50 blocks a 1 coin reward. That seemed like a fair thing to do.

http://cloak.blockexplorer.cc/block/000000038c4f76b80afd30849aac0810dc487551d118af5a64a69b5e2edd381b

Check for yourself.

[elektrax]

markets.cx and their ElectroBTC guy that was in here #onedayitsyourturn

[barabbas]

If "Alty" or "The Dagger" provide proof positive they did not pre-mine CLOAK, they (he) will be taken down from the WALL OF SHAME. If not, here it is for everyone to be aware (and cautious) about it.

barabbas : you only need to look at the block explorer to see this coin was not premined.

Here is a link to the block explorer, we gave the first 50 blocks a 1 coin reward. That seemed like a fair thing to do.

http://cloak.blockexplorer.cc/block/000000038c4f76b80afd30849aac0810dc487551d118af5a64a69b5e2edd381b

Check for yourself.

You haven't deleted these posts (yet) from your own thread... but you haven't answered them either. You did deleted mine because I reached the same conclusion everyone with common sense reached there, though... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637704.40

That's not proof positive. How many have you mined, how many have you bought and when and how many wallets and which numbers they are, that would be (some, hardly definitive) proof of what you claim. Hey, if you leased the power, there's nothing wrong with it. If you bought cheap, again, nothing wrong with it but, yet, you deleted the posts and bumped me off the IRC room when I questioned you about this, why? I know you have arrangements that force you to censor your thread (your agreement with IconicExpert, specifically). Hey, that's all fine and dandy but won't get you out of the Wall of Shame, sorry. If you want to come out clean, and you are, this will always be open and uncensored, but not as long as your establishment doesn't allow legitimate questioning and practices censorship. If you are in fact clean, real investors/traders won't give a shit about anything anyone posts anywhere, so here's is your opportunity to make the most of it. Just posting the blockchain, sorry, doesn't cut it.

[barabbas]

Putting cloak on the wall of shame and then proceeding to write a wall of complete speculative nonsense? Is there room for barabbas on the wall of shame for being a proven fud artist wanker?

Cloak and every single one that is even remotely suspect. Even remotely. The tables have been turned, hadn't you heard?

Even idiots like you are allowed to post their nonsense here with total freedom.

A needed change in crypto, IMO.

[ILikeMagicBeans]

Is there room for barabbas on the wall of shame for being a proven fud artist wanker?

 

[barabbas]

Is there room for barabbas on the wall of shame for being a proven fud artist wanker?

 

You just kind of did, didn't you?

Bad for you that it is something to be decided on a case by case basis... and based on credibility. Ain't real freedom great?

[reRaise]

Sticky this Thread

[purplejaguar]

Do you think Iconic Expert belongs on this list, barabbas?

[incognitoworker]

Good idea. I had the same one to point the scammers out. I am quite into alt-coins subforum and I can see new scams daily. I will be adding them to my own thread as well as here. For now, the worst in my opinion are:

1. Sharecoin
2. Cleanwatercoin

+1
this thread is great.
Zip to the hell.

zip to hell is 7560 Norway :-)
i live in neighbour city, :-)
Back to topic, wall of shame/fame could be usefull for some but anyway all need to make their own research to make a decision.
you can be on top on wall of fame, and then perform some bad actions :-)

[Acidyo]

List of bitcointalk thieves/scammers:
1. NFDcoin / Din (Edgecoin)
2. ziplibrary (Sharexcoin / ShareCoin)
3. BitOffer (HouseofCoins)
4. Visacoin (Visacoin)

"If you are reading this din, i know what you are thinking, "they were so dumb they deserved it", well no being dumb isn't immoral, stealing peoples money how ever is. Someday you are going to grow old and you are going to die and you are going to have to look back on your life and at that point money wont mean anything, your choices here however might. And if they don't than you have an even worse problem. I do not envy you." - Anon136 (this was said about NFDcoin but it's relevent to all thieves/scammers)

Sharecoin was a scam? Damn, that's too bad.

[Acidyo]

Sticky this Thread

I second this, a really interesting thread and many newbies should browse through it before they decide to start investing, etc.

[tylerderden]

don't forget that shitbag fyrstikken. he was invovled in shibe and doje (banknote) and is an all around scamming dirtbag.

[tylerderden]

next we need the same thing for scampools

[XbladeX]

IconicExpert = Scammer and Thief
In short he stole 4500$ from BC community...
full details here...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=645899.0

[XbladeX]

...The Don and St.GNU continue dumping their estimated 35-40 million blackcoins premined acquired in the early hours/days of the PoW period. ....

JUST LOL >> add yourself barabbas to list for that scam attempt...
Doge comes after 4 weeks  when 1st multipool operator (Radiostatic) left...

"35-40 million blackcoins premined acquired in the early hours/days" - next one lie premine is in code you can't premine coins in period of time...
BC was all mined in 7days but even with that GNU comes after month to BC... You just LIE...

[barabbas]

Do you think Iconic Expert belongs on this list, barabbas?

No I don't. I KNOW he has done nothing wrong -as long as he returns the coins collected for the Wall Street failed event- and that his only mistake was to trust the scammer Carlos R. Torres Ferguson, alias Templar77. Why do I know it? Because I warned him of EXACTLY what would happen 7 days before it actually happened.

[barabbas]

don't forget that shitbag fyrstikken. he was invovled in shibe and doje (banknote) and is an all around scamming dirtbag.

Added but more details, as specific as possible would be helpful.

[SirChiko]

You should also add Trade Fortress there.

[barabbas]

next we need the same thing for scampools

There's plenty of space here for them. But scampools are, in many cases, in cahoots with the devs, for instance, the Libertycoin scam and the BC scam.

[barabbas]

You should also add Trade Fortress there.

More details, please.

[alison03]

Do you think Iconic Expert belongs on this list, barabbas?

No I don't. I KNOW he has done nothing wrong -as long as he returns the coins collected for the Wall Street failed event- and that his only mistake was to trust the scammer Carlos R. Torres Ferguson, alias Templar77. Why do I know it? Because I warned him of EXACTLY what would happen 7 days before it actually happened.

He just stated today he is not returning the coins.

[purplejaguar]

Do you think Iconic Expert belongs on this list, barabbas?

No I don't. I KNOW he has done nothing wrong -as long as he returns the coins collected for the Wall Street failed event- and that his only mistake was to trust the scammer Carlos R. Torres Ferguson, alias Templar77. Why do I know it? Because I warned him of EXACTLY what would happen 7 days before it actually happened.

IE has said he's not returning the Wall Street event funds...so?

[barabbas]

...The Don and St.GNU continue dumping their estimated 35-40 million blackcoins premined acquired in the early hours/days of the PoW period. ....

JUST LOL >> add yourself barabbas to list for that scam attempt...
Doge comes after 4 weeks  when 1st multipool operator (Radiostatic) left...

"35-40 million blackcoins premined acquired in the early hours/days" - next one lie premine is in code you can't premine coins in period of time...
BC was all mined in 7days but even with that GNU comes after month to BC... You just LIE...

That is fully documented in several posts in several Bitcointalk threads. And I never, ever, lie (I could be wrong though and have been on occasion. In this particular one, I did very extensive research myself and the conclusions are quite clear. But that is not the only scam going on in BC... not that you are going to be convinced otherwise, of course. Are you Mano Nera, by the way?

[Zackgeno96]

rotocoin
greececoin
spaincoin
auracoin
asiacoin
faircoin
silkcoin
pestacoin
mazacoin
takcoin/now tekcoin or w/e it is
hvc
nuat
utc
hmm btw there are tons more

[barabbas]

Do you think Iconic Expert belongs on this list, barabbas?

No I don't. I KNOW he has done nothing wrong -as long as he returns the coins collected for the Wall Street failed event- and that his only mistake was to trust the scammer Carlos R. Torres Ferguson, alias Templar77. Why do I know it? Because I warned him of EXACTLY what would happen 7 days before it actually happened.

IE has said he's not returning the Wall Street event funds...so?

Show me where he says that and I will include him immediately. Because I have plenty of posts in which he has said the opposite and in fact some form of returning it should have been already implemented.

[barabbas]

rotocoin
greececoin
spaincoin
auracoin
asiacoin
faircoin
silkcoin
pestacoin
mazacoin
takcoin/now tekcoin or w/e it is
hvc
nuat
utc
hmm btw there are tons more

 Wow, wow, wow... The wall of Shame is going to be formed but we don't need lists without any specifics. That is not as helpful as it could be. For instance, I don't have any specifics indicating the Spaincoin is a scam. The work of a totally inept and very stupid dev, indeed, but scam? not necessarily... Pesetacoin I don't know any specifics, but they have been around for quite a long time. UTC... why is it a scam? You have to provide some short ofdetails as to why you think they are scams or other reasons to be included in the Walls of Shame. Lack of success is not a reason for them to be listed here.

[Zackgeno96]

...The Don and St.GNU continue dumping their estimated 35-40 million blackcoins premined acquired in the early hours/days of the PoW period. ....

JUST LOL >> add yourself barabbas to list for that scam attempt...
Doge comes after 4 weeks  when 1st multipool operator (Radiostatic) left...

"35-40 million blackcoins premined acquired in the early hours/days" - next one lie premine is in code you can't premine coins in period of time...
BC was all mined in 7days but even with that GNU comes after month to BC... You just LIE...

That is fully documented in several posts in several Bitcointalk threads. And I never, ever, lie (I could be wrong though and have been on occasion. In this particular one, I did very extensive research myself and the conclusions are quite clear. But that is not the only scam going on in BC... not that you are going to be convinced otherwise, of course. Are you Mano Nera, by the way?

! now you realize bc had several pools with over 5gigs each  this is scrypt btw there was a max peak hash at 52-55gigs at that time there were several pools including hashcows who mined a total of 2 million coins and sold them all at 1-4k sats this is all confirmed there were other pools like dedicated who had far more mined, if all the pool owners still have there docs for the payouts you can clearly see maybe 5-10% of the total coins were mined by unofficial pools ( aka people with mega farms or multi pools such as hashcows)

[barabbas]

Do you think Iconic Expert belongs on this list, barabbas?

No I don't. I KNOW he has done nothing wrong -as long as he returns the coins collected for the Wall Street failed event- and that his only mistake was to trust the scammer Carlos R. Torres Ferguson, alias Templar77. Why do I know it? Because I warned him of EXACTLY what would happen 7 days before it actually happened.

IE has said he's not returning the Wall Street event funds...so?

I guess I'll have to PM directly myself... since you guys don't post the link to such a statement...

[bitwho]

sadly almost all coins were created by wanna be devs to make a quick buck. lately there has been a lot of btcs invested in new coin in hope that they will shoot up and you could sell much higher with profit. most of the times though, only the devs have come out winning and the rest left with huge bags.

greed will always keep this cycles up. if you look into the exchanges is the same btc cycling around. its a damn ponzhi scheme circle jerk.

there are tons of good coins trying to establish themselves out there but as any good coin the reward being invested in them is slow. So everyone just jumps into the new coin with new fad and hope to be a millionaire.

its a weird cycle. everyone complains but soon as something new and trendy is out , all rush to give them their money. ignoring the fact that the "dev" is only promising stuff but shows no sign to know anything beyond then scamming everyone : (

[Zackgeno96]

Do you think Iconic Expert belongs on this list, barabbas?

No I don't. I KNOW he has done nothing wrong -as long as he returns the coins collected for the Wall Street failed event- and that his only mistake was to trust the scammer Carlos R. Torres Ferguson, alias Templar77. Why do I know it? Because I warned him of EXACTLY what would happen 7 days before it actually happened.

IE has said he's not returning the Wall Street event funds...so?

I guess I'll have to PM directly myself... since you guys don't post the link to such a statement...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=599299.4980

[delion19]

Do you think Iconic Expert belongs on this list, barabbas?

No I don't. I KNOW he has done nothing wrong -as long as he returns the coins collected for the Wall Street failed event- and that his only mistake was to trust the scammer Carlos R. Torres Ferguson, alias Templar77. Why do I know it? Because I warned him of EXACTLY what would happen 7 days before it actually happened.

IE has said he's not returning the Wall Street event funds...so?

Show me where he says that and I will include him immediately. Because I have plenty of posts in which he has said the opposite and in fact some form of returning it should have been already implemented.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=599299.msg7214795#msg7214795

[XbladeX]

...The Don and St.GNU continue dumping their estimated 35-40 million blackcoins premined acquired in the early hours/days of the PoW period. ....

JUST LOL >> add yourself barabbas to list for that scam attempt...
Doge comes after 4 weeks  when 1st multipool operator (Radiostatic) left...

"35-40 million blackcoins premined acquired in the early hours/days" - next one lie premine is in code you can't premine coins in period of time...
BC was all mined in 7days but even with that GNU comes after month to BC... You just LIE...

That is fully documented in several posts in several Bitcointalk threads. And I never, ever, lie (I could be wrong though and have been on occasion. In this particular one, I did very extensive research myself and the conclusions are quite clear. But that is not the only scam going on in BC... not that you are going to be convinced otherwise, of course. Are you Mano Nera, by the way?

Lol you only proved that BC coin was mined in 7day...(this is only "scam" you found ) but that was know in 10day before lunch in announcement...
About Doge you don't have any prove... even on cast he told he entered when Radiostatic gone...
And radiostatic 1st pool operator gone in about 3 week after coin was lunched... Then doge came in to setup multi pool.
Here he talks about that.(link below) You just trying connect some facts but it isn't go in right direction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=P2XpOQCtX3U#t=311

[barabbas]

...The Don and St.GNU continue dumping their estimated 35-40 million blackcoins premined acquired in the early hours/days of the PoW period. ....

JUST LOL >> add yourself barabbas to list for that scam attempt...
Doge comes after 4 weeks  when 1st multipool operator (Radiostatic) left...

"35-40 million blackcoins premined acquired in the early hours/days" - next one lie premine is in code you can't premine coins in period of time...
BC was all mined in 7days but even with that GNU comes after month to BC... You just LIE...

That is fully documented in several posts in several Bitcointalk threads. And I never, ever, lie (I could be wrong though and have been on occasion. In this particular one, I did very extensive research myself and the conclusions are quite clear. But that is not the only scam going on in BC... not that you are going to be convinced otherwise, of course. Are you Mano Nera, by the way?

now now ie you must be pretty stupid if you even think that! now you realize bc had several pools with over 5gigs each  this is scrypt btw there was a max peak hash at 52-55gigs at that time there were several pools including hashcows who mined a total of 2 million coins and sold them all at 1-4k sats this is all confirmed there were other pools like dedicated who had far more mined, if all the pool owners still have there docs for the payouts you can clearly see maybe 5-10% of the total coins were mined by unofficial pools ( aka people with mega farms or multi pools such as hashcows)

Well if you still think I am IE, then you are way more stupid than I thought. The charges that I made point to pre-mine of over 35 million coings by The Doge and St.GNU. What you just posted is very small potatoes. But obviously you are not going to see that, are you, no matter how evident? The fact that la Mano Nera gives away the Titan for the Multipool _a separate business from BC owned fully by St.GNU and the DOGE- is also of no consequence to you, is it? The FACT that morituri13.dognip showed at the offices of the PR for the meeting with the flower pants kid, as the visible head of la Mano Nera that he is, also means nothing to you, right? Nor the fact thata the still available post in which morituri13 admitted in the thread to be part of a "group of investors" (Mano Nera) working on the inside and determining the strategies of the coin, controlling when and how much the pool buys and every other aspect of the coin, including the Foundation, means nothing to you either.... OK, it's your money. We are here -I am-, to include them in the Wall of Shame. And they are, so every new investor can be warned.

You may choose to believe whatever pleases you most of fits your particular agenda better.

[delion19]

snip

And have you looked at the posts from iconic? stick to what you said you would do. And to claim otherwise would be lying....

Thanks

[barabbas]

Do you think Iconic Expert belongs on this list, barabbas?

No I don't. I KNOW he has done nothing wrong -as long as he returns the coins collected for the Wall Street failed event- and that his only mistake was to trust the scammer Carlos R. Torres Ferguson, alias Templar77. Why do I know it? Because I warned him of EXACTLY what would happen 7 days before it actually happened.

IE has said he's not returning the Wall Street event funds...so?

Show me where he says that and I will include him immediately. Because I have plenty of posts in which he has said the opposite and in fact some form of returning it should have been already implemented.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=599299.msg7214795#msg7214795

ICONICEXPERT INCLUDED IN THE WALL OF SHAME

That is just too bad. After exposing his immense ego, which got the best of him all the time, and antagonizing him rather virulently because some of his initiatives at BC were quite outrageous and in my opinion damaging for the coin -I hadn't discovered the scams inside BC then-, I came to respect him for at least having ideas even if only 20% of them, at the most, good ones with the 80% left pretty outrageous and potentially damaging. When all of this blew off, I told him he had put himself in a lose-lose situation... even though he had converted the donations to fiat and, at the time, the price of BC was way below than it had been at the time of the donations, so he could easily return the coins and still have some extra left. For simplicity reasons, he offered the charity option but that is not acceptable because many people has antagonized him and want their donations back... and they have every right to have them. Sorry IE, but there's no two-ways about this. It goes with the territory. To react with the ego above the head, carries consequences. You HAVE to return that money. First, it is not true, if I recall correctly, that the price of today is higher than it was at the time of most donations. Second, even if it was at some time during the donations, some of them were made in BTC and LTC and price of BTC has gone considerably up. I know you are now on another coin and being successful. Congrats. I know you just don't want the hassle it represents to return the money one by one. It IS a hassle. But you chose to engage on that hassle and it is your responsibility to do whatever is needed to come out of it. The excuse that it will cost you more now than you get is simply not true and, even if it was -and I repeat, it is NOT- it is your fault for so much delaying the return of funds that should have started weeks ago.

For all of those reasons and conditioned to the proper return of funds to all those who have requested and are willing to contact you about it, you are prominently included on the Wall of Shame.

Good luck with the new coin though.

[Zackgeno96]

...The Don and St.GNU continue dumping their estimated 35-40 million blackcoins premined acquired in the early hours/days of the PoW period. ....

JUST LOL >> add yourself barabbas to list for that scam attempt...
Doge comes after 4 weeks  when 1st multipool operator (Radiostatic) left...

"35-40 million blackcoins premined acquired in the early hours/days" - next one lie premine is in code you can't premine coins in period of time...
BC was all mined in 7days but even with that GNU comes after month to BC... You just LIE...

That is fully documented in several posts in several Bitcointalk threads. And I never, ever, lie (I could be wrong though and have been on occasion. In this particular one, I did very extensive research myself and the conclusions are quite clear. But that is not the only scam going on in BC... not that you are going to be convinced otherwise, of course. Are you Mano Nera, by the way?

now now ie you must be pretty stupid if you even think that! now you realize bc had several pools with over 5gigs each  this is scrypt btw there was a max peak hash at 52-55gigs at that time there were several pools including hashcows who mined a total of 2 million coins and sold them all at 1-4k sats this is all confirmed there were other pools like dedicated who had far more mined, if all the pool owners still have there docs for the payouts you can clearly see maybe 5-10% of the total coins were mined by unofficial pools ( aka people with mega farms or multi pools such as hashcows)

Well if you still think I am IE, then you are way more stupid than I thought. The charges that I made point to pre-mine of over 35 million coings by The Doge and St.GNU. What you just posted is very small potatoes. But obviously you are not going to see that, are you, no matter how evident? The fact that la Mano Nera gives away the Titan for the Multipool _a separate business from BC owned fully by St.GNU and the DOGE- is also of no consequence to you, is it? The FACT that morituri13.dognip showed at the offices of the PR for the meeting with the flower pants kid, as the visible head of la Mano Nera that he is, also means nothing to you, right? Nor the fact thata the still available post in which morituri13 admitted in the thread to be part of a "group of investors" (Mano Nera) working on the inside and determining the strategies of the coin, controlling when and how much the pool buys and every other aspect of the coin, including the Foundation, means nothing to you either.... OK, it's your money. We are here -I am-, to include them in the Wall of Shame. And they are, so every new investor can be warned.

You may choose to believe whatever pleases you most of fits your particular agenda better.

no i don't think you're ie i was honestly thought it was just a funny way of joking around... but anyway premined 35 million so you're saying the total bc amount is 110million.............. LOL,  but seriously where do you come up with 35 million LOL

[barabbas]

...The Don and St.GNU continue dumping their estimated 35-40 million blackcoins premined acquired in the early hours/days of the PoW period. ....

JUST LOL >> add yourself barabbas to list for that scam attempt...
Doge comes after 4 weeks  when 1st multipool operator (Radiostatic) left...

"35-40 million blackcoins premined acquired in the early hours/days" - next one lie premine is in code you can't premine coins in period of time...
BC was all mined in 7days but even with that GNU comes after month to BC... You just LIE...

That is fully documented in several posts in several Bitcointalk threads. And I never, ever, lie (I could be wrong though and have been on occasion. In this particular one, I did very extensive research myself and the conclusions are quite clear. But that is not the only scam going on in BC... not that you are going to be convinced otherwise, of course. Are you Mano Nera, by the way?

now now ie you must be pretty stupid if you even think that! now you realize bc had several pools with over 5gigs each  this is scrypt btw there was a max peak hash at 52-55gigs at that time there were several pools including hashcows who mined a total of 2 million coins and sold them all at 1-4k sats this is all confirmed there were other pools like dedicated who had far more mined, if all the pool owners still have there docs for the payouts you can clearly see maybe 5-10% of the total coins were mined by unofficial pools ( aka people with mega farms or multi pools such as hashcows)

Well if you still think I am IE, then you are way more stupid than I thought. The charges that I made point to pre-mine of over 35 million coings by The Doge and St.GNU. What you just posted is very small potatoes. But obviously you are not going to see that, are you, no matter how evident? The fact that la Mano Nera gives away the Titan for the Multipool _a separate business from BC owned fully by St.GNU and the DOGE- is also of no consequence to you, is it? The FACT that morituri13.dognip showed at the offices of the PR for the meeting with the flower pants kid, as the visible head of la Mano Nera that he is, also means nothing to you, right? Nor the fact thata the still available post in which morituri13 admitted in the thread to be part of a "group of investors" (Mano Nera) working on the inside and determining the strategies of the coin, controlling when and how much the pool buys and every other aspect of the coin, including the Foundation, means nothing to you either.... OK, it's your money. We are here -I am-, to include them in the Wall of Shame. And they are, so every new investor can be warned.

You may choose to believe whatever pleases you most of fits your particular agenda better.

no i don't think you're ie i was honestly thought it was just a funny way of joking around... but anyway premined 35 million so you're saying the total bc amount is 110million.............. LOL,  but seriously where do you come up with 35 million LOL

You are going to have top read that yourself, I wrote MANY long posts about it and most of them remain fully available on Bitcointalk.

But no, your assumption is wrong: Of the 75 million in existence, at least half was pre-mined by those two. Clear now?

And come on, no you did not believe it but it conveniently fit your personal agenda just like it does that of those retarded Emilio and conosaur or whatever (this is PARTICULARLY funny indeed for he now is literally kissing IE's ass... only that he has chosen not to know that he is doing it. Hysterical). Same with all those other retards whose posts are immortalized here so there's evidence of the enormity of the imbecility.

Anyway, if you want to play with La Mano Nera, it is your business. Part of mine is to expose it.

[barabbas]

snip

And have you looked at the posts from iconic? stick to what you said you would do. And to claim otherwise would be lying....

Thanks

No need for it. It is the reason for this thread to exist to begin with. And I never, ever, lie. Thank you for providing the link.

[XbladeX]

...
But no, your assumption is wrong: Of the 75 million in existence, at least half was pre-mined by those two. Clear now?
....

SHOW THOSE PREMINED BC COINS - TIP YOU CAN'T because there weren't any

[rikkejohn]

anyone mention SMARTCOIN ... the dev got people to sign up for a giveaway, set up online wallets, and about 2 weeks later stole all the coins from the wallets.

CLASSIC!

[barabbas]

TEMPLAR77 (CARLOS R. TORRES FREGUSON) AT IT AGAIN WITH LIBERTYCOIN

This guys and his associate, loljosh, are something else. The have their fully censored Libertycoin thread on Bitcointalk but, since he is not capable of coding for shit and cannot get anyone of any knowledge to work for his scamer ass, he's trying to pull another con within the Libertycoin remaining community -poor people hanging on to their bags with any small glimmer of hope for recouping some of their humongous losses. Carlos, Templar77 want more of their money, obviously, and has opened yet another thread -fully censored, of course-, to continue scamming people out of their money for a little longer... while absolutely nothing -ok, maybe a few icons here and there, the guy made decent websites before discovering a much easier way to other people's money, after all.

He is asking the community -all six of them remaining- to tell him what can they do to make Libertycoin better. Oh, and the main purpose: "to clear his name". Like that is possible while keeping on collecting victims of his scam. And he even (mind you, this is a 26 years old kid convinced at this point he is untouchable) charges IconicExpert when it was him and Loljosh who put him out of LibertyCoin just when that coin was on the way to huge numbers. There wasn't an accidental change of password, it was a deliberate action to deny IconicExpert access to the forum thread. I was there, so I know. I knew, in fact, a week before when  I warned -to no avail- IconicExpert, of what was about to happen. It was very clear: The dedicated IRC channel of Libertycoin was -and to some extent remains- moderated and fully controlled by IconicExpert's more acerbic enemies from BlackCoin... all of which came in -including the Doge and many others, to witness the effects of the dumping in Libertycoing they had orchestrated for days. It was like watching a movie while this puts of Carlitos took sides, blatantly, with the people from a rival coin to hang in to Libertycoin whose community had already clearly expressed that they wanted IconicExpert to take full charge of the coin and get the bums (Carlos and loljosh) out. They, Templar77 (Carlitos) went on to even mess with the code of the coin so IE couldn't even fork it and take over like the entire community wanted.

Anyway, this asshole, who I have denounced personally to the Policia Federal in Mexico DF where he lives, ask "what coins?" he dumped, pretending he didn't have any more than the 300k or so that he holds now. In the several threads that are available, you will know which coins. It is my charge that they, him and loljosh are behind the 24hash.com fraud where miners were simply not paid by the pool that quickly disappeared. Prove otherwise and "clean your name, asshole". You are guilty as sin, pal. Should we ask your previous victims in Universitycoin, or Grumpycoin what they think? How about those who still are waiting for the launch of X Coin and that have paid you weeks ago?

What are you gonna do when they come for you, bad boys?

[barabbas]

...
But no, your assumption is wrong: Of the 75 million in existence, at least half was pre-mined by those two. Clear now?
....

SHOW THOSE PREMINED BC COINS - TIP YOU CAN'T because there weren't any

It doesn't work that way here, smart ass. The evidence and the research has been long published everywhere. It is THEIR burden to prove otherwise.
But worry not, The Doge, the Don, Eugene (Yevgeniy) Rokhlin will have more worries -such as the FBI, the IRS- on his ass than his inclusion in the Wall of Shame. He lives in Brooklyn, that's the US, and here you may get away with crime in cryptoland, but not without generously contributing to Uncle Sam, so consider the "donations" to the Doge, in part, as donations to the IRS. There's some poetic justice in that. And, who knows, with time, there might well be justice, poetic or not, playing a part.

[bobcaticus]

 Iconic Expert, Clockers25, Boomslang, brammien, Barabbas and all different accounts of Christopher Bouzy.

[barabbas]

anyone mention SMARTCOIN ... the dev got people to sign up for a giveaway, set up online wallets, and about 2 weeks later stole all the coins from the wallets.

CLASSIC!

Who was this Angel? Any way to trace his deeds?

[barabbas]

Iconic Expert, Clockers25, Boomslang, brammien, Barabbas and all different accounts of Christopher Bouzy.

There you have, another new kind of idiot. What can you do...

[maarx]

...The Don and St.GNU continue dumping their estimated 35-40 million blackcoins premined acquired in the early hours/days of the PoW period. ....

JUST LOL >> add yourself barabbas to list for that scam attempt...
Doge comes after 4 weeks  when 1st multipool operator (Radiostatic) left...

"35-40 million blackcoins premined acquired in the early hours/days" - next one lie premine is in code you can't premine coins in period of time...
BC was all mined in 7days but even with that GNU comes after month to BC... You just LIE...

That is fully documented in several posts in several Bitcointalk threads. And I never, ever, lie (I could be wrong though and have been on occasion. In this particular one, I did very extensive research myself and the conclusions are quite clear. But that is not the only scam going on in BC... not that you are going to be convinced otherwise, of course. Are you Mano Nera, by the way?

Lol you only proved that BC coin was mined in 7day...(this is only "scam" you found ) but that was know in 10day before lunch in announcement...
About Doge you don't have any prove... even on cast he told he entered when Radiostatic gone...
And radiostatic 1st pool operator gone in about 3 week after coin was lunched... Then doge came in to setup multi pool.
Here he talks about that.(link below) You just trying connect some facts but it isn't go in right direction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=P2XpOQCtX3U#t=311

+1

I have yet to see one proof of any BC scam. If it is one, damn, it must be the best scam in crypto history haha.

All I see is bunch of hardworking people. And trust me, I know.

[mistersushi]

What? Cloak too?

barabbas, aka IconicExpert should be at the top of the list. Don't trust this guy, before you fall for this scam check his post history and do your due diligence.
He has a confirmed at least 5 accounts of alts that he uses to promote his own ideas and to put down those he doesnt agree with.

Here is a list of his accomplishments.
1. He initiated a huge dump of BC and proceeded to blame the BC devs for it when they wouldnt support his event because they wanted to do one of their own. He started an entire smear campaign against BC and all of the people working to making it better.
2. He collected 13,000$ in donations for an event that he was planning involving women walking around on wall st passing out BC cards. The money STILL has not been returned a full month after the cancellation of said event.
3. He announced that he would be promoting XLB, but when the devs decided to do something that didnt agree with his plan, he accused them of dumps again just like he did with BC.
4. His alt accounts tried to start a logo contest for Cloak and when the dev found out who he/they were he pulled his support. So they initiated a smear campaign yet again.

This is the result of a butthurt loser being angry that noone will play with him anymore so he is spreading FUD to anyone who will listen.
It is in your best interests to move on and ignore anything these people say

You beat me to it!  This Nigerian scammer Christopher Bouzy, aka barabbas, aka IconicExpert just doesn't quit, does he?  He wants to make a hall of shame about OTHER people?? Unbelievable.  Hey Bouzy, there's a reason why your home country is a third-world shithole:  a few too many people like you there.

[barabbas]

...The Don and St.GNU continue dumping their estimated 35-40 million blackcoins premined acquired in the early hours/days of the PoW period. ....

JUST LOL >> add yourself barabbas to list for that scam attempt...
Doge comes after 4 weeks  when 1st multipool operator (Radiostatic) left...

"35-40 million blackcoins premined acquired in the early hours/days" - next one lie premine is in code you can't premine coins in period of time...
BC was all mined in 7days but even with that GNU comes after month to BC... You just LIE...

That is fully documented in several posts in several Bitcointalk threads. And I never, ever, lie (I could be wrong though and have been on occasion. In this particular one, I did very extensive research myself and the conclusions are quite clear. But that is not the only scam going on in BC... not that you are going to be convinced otherwise, of course. Are you Mano Nera, by the way?

Lol you only proved that BC coin was mined in 7day...(this is only "scam" you found ) but that was know in 10day before lunch in announcement...
About Doge you don't have any prove... even on cast he told he entered when Radiostatic gone...
And radiostatic 1st pool operator gone in about 3 week after coin was lunched... Then doge came in to setup multi pool.
Here he talks about that.(link below) You just trying connect some facts but it isn't go in right direction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=P2XpOQCtX3U#t=311

+1

I have yet to see one proof of any BC scam. If it is one, damn, it must be the best scam in crypto history haha.

All I see is bunch of hardworking people. And trust me, I know.

But you are part of the foundation Maarten, so it doesn't really count what you post, does it? You also know why morituri13/dognip was at the PR meeting in Miami with flowery-pants boy, don't you?

[barabbas]

What? Cloak too?

barabbas, aka IconicExpert should be at the top of the list. Don't trust this guy, before you fall for this scam check his post history and do your due diligence.
He has a confirmed at least 5 accounts of alts that he uses to promote his own ideas and to put down those he doesnt agree with.

Here is a list of his accomplishments.
1. He initiated a huge dump of BC and proceeded to blame the BC devs for it when they wouldnt support his event because they wanted to do one of their own. He started an entire smear campaign against BC and all of the people working to making it better.
2. He collected 13,000$ in donations for an event that he was planning involving women walking around on wall st passing out BC cards. The money STILL has not been returned a full month after the cancellation of said event.
3. He announced that he would be promoting XLB, but when the devs decided to do something that didnt agree with his plan, he accused them of dumps again just like he did with BC.
4. His alt accounts tried to start a logo contest for Cloak and when the dev found out who he/they were he pulled his support. So they initiated a smear campaign yet again.

This is the result of a butthurt loser being angry that noone will play with him anymore so he is spreading FUD to anyone who will listen.
It is in your best interests to move on and ignore anything these people say

You beat me to it!  This Nigerian scammer Christopher Bouzy, aka barabbas, aka IconicExpert just doesn't quit, does he?  He wants to make a hall of shame about OTHER people?? Unbelievable.  Hey Bouzy, there's a reason why your home country is a third-world shithole:  a few too many people like you there.

Even those blatantly racist disgrace of statements that only qualify you, are allowed here. Total freedom.

you should read just a bit above and will find, to your ignorant awakening, that I have just added IconicExpert to the Wall of Shame for refusing to return the donations. Like in at least 80% of his ideas, I disagree completely. That said, he is 1000% more decent than any of you. Quite the egocentric asshole, but not even close to the levels of dishonesty and plain imbecility of the likes of you.

[ShibecoinSucks]

SHIBECOIN deserves a place on this thread, not only was it a complete failure of a coin, the devloper loq stole plenty of money from people through his incessant dumping along with his crony pals. They censor and attack anyone who tries to point this out. Watch out people, they will come after you,.

[mistersushi]

What? Cloak too?

barabbas, aka IconicExpert should be at the top of the list. Don't trust this guy, before you fall for this scam check his post history and do your due diligence.
He has a confirmed at least 5 accounts of alts that he uses to promote his own ideas and to put down those he doesnt agree with.

Here is a list of his accomplishments.
1. He initiated a huge dump of BC and proceeded to blame the BC devs for it when they wouldnt support his event because they wanted to do one of their own. He started an entire smear campaign against BC and all of the people working to making it better.
2. He collected 13,000$ in donations for an event that he was planning involving women walking around on wall st passing out BC cards. The money STILL has not been returned a full month after the cancellation of said event.
3. He announced that he would be promoting XLB, but when the devs decided to do something that didnt agree with his plan, he accused them of dumps again just like he did with BC.
4. His alt accounts tried to start a logo contest for Cloak and when the dev found out who he/they were he pulled his support. So they initiated a smear campaign yet again.

This is the result of a butthurt loser being angry that noone will play with him anymore so he is spreading FUD to anyone who will listen.
It is in your best interests to move on and ignore anything these people say

You beat me to it!  This Nigerian scammer Christopher Bouzy, aka barabbas, aka IconicExpert just doesn't quit, does he?  He wants to make a hall of shame about OTHER people?? Unbelievable.  Hey Bouzy, there's a reason why your home country is a third-world shithole:  a few too many people like you there.

Even those blatantly racist disgrace of statements that only qualify you, are allowed here. Total freedom.

you should read just a bit above and will find, to your ignorant awakening, that I have just added IconicExpert to the Wall of Shame for refusing to return the donations. Like in at least 80% of his ideas, I disagree completely. That said, he is 1000% more decent than any of you. Quite the egocentric asshole, but not even close to the levels of dishonesty and plain imbecility of the likes of you.

I knew you'd try to play that card, Bouzy, being as honest as you are.  No, my remarks were not racist:  they're socio-political, and they fit your low-class ass to a T (just like your skinny jeans).

So now you're calling ME dishonest?  Oh rly?  Please do tell. You're making a liar out of yourself again, Bouzy.  You've made a fool of yourself online. I just helped a little, because I hate liars and bullshitters.

[rlm42]

Not a legitimate list unless IconicExpert is on there.

[mistersushi]

Not a legitimate list unless the OP is on there.

FIFY

[rlm42]

Not a legitimate list unless the OP is on there.

FIFY

thanks

[vizique]

You attempt to enrol the Foundation in your diatribe against BlackCoin, please don’t. As an organisation we have made every effort to ensure that when all else around BlackCoin is in chaos, the BlockChain and its future is secure.

And this points to a fundamental misunderstanding you and many others have made about what the Foundations role in BlackCoin is. We are not here to Govern or rule BlackCoin but to provide a central platform for all those invested in BlackCoin to benefit from. The Foundation is a non profit entity and will power projects and developments by the Community for the Community. These projects will be voted on by the members in a democratic manner as befits our objectives as a leader in the new digital currency space.

While I agree there are many coins with bad developers, BlackCoin stands head and shoulders above the rest when it comes to its Dev and soon to be growing team. Something I’ve noticed none of you have disagreed with or attempted to make trouble about. Why? Because true talent is beyond this kind of tit for tat horse sh*t that goes on, on these threads.

Finally though, with such baseless and malicious accusations as yours, the burden of proof remains at your door. The usual “I said it first” stance doesn’t work.

BlackCoin is not about one or two people or even five or six, its tens of people, all over the world working to put together something a little bit different from all the other stuff we see come and go. We have seen 2 personalities pop up, “shine” and disappear again. Both with their own “Styles” and both ultimately failed. This isn’t about ego’s or how fast a price can be pumped, it’s a build up of solid fundamentals, concentrating on the factors that make this new wave business a reality.

SO, enough of your BlackCoin bashing, do better research and be careful who you accuse and of what. And not even allowing the “accused” a voice is rather foolish is it not? To discredit someone “because you would say that” is childish and petty, but then this whole argument against BlackCoin is just that is it not?

[barabbas]

You attempt to enrol the Foundation in your diatribe against BlackCoin, please don’t. As an organisation we have made every effort to ensure that when all else around BlackCoin is in chaos, the BlockChain and its future is secure.

And this points to a fundamental misunderstanding you and many others have made about what the Foundations role in BlackCoin is. We are not here to Govern or rule BlackCoin but to provide a central platform for all those invested in BlackCoin to benefit from. The Foundation is a non profit entity and will power projects and developments by the Community for the Community. These projects will be voted on by the members in a democratic manner as befits our objectives as a leader in the new digital currency space.

While I agree there are many coins with bad developers, BlackCoin stands head and shoulders above the rest when it comes to its Dev and soon to be growing team. Something I’ve noticed none of you have disagreed with or attempted to make trouble about. Why? Because true talent is beyond this kind of tit for tat horse sh*t that goes on, on these threads.

Finally though, with such baseless and malicious accusations as yours, the burden of proof remains at your door. The usual “I said it first” stance doesn’t work.

BlackCoin is not about one or two people or even five or six, its tens of people, all over the world working to put together something a little bit different from all the other stuff we see come and go. We have seen 2 personalities pop up, “shine” and disappear again. Both with their own “Styles” and both ultimately failed. This isn’t about ego’s or how fast a price can be pumped, it’s a build up of solid fundamentals, concentrating on the factors that make this new wave business a reality.

SO, enough of your BlackCoin bashing, do better research and be careful who you accuse and of what. And not even allowing the “accused” a voice is rather foolish is it not? To discredit someone “because you would say that” is childish and petty, but then this whole argument against BlackCoin is just that is it not?

First of all, everyone, EVERYONE is welcome here -as opposed to any and all of your controlled threads and ircs and reddits-. Is that clear enough? No restrictions of any kind. Even you can do your promotional and totally dishonest shit here. And none will be deleted. Ever.

And, mind you, it is SHIT. Raw, smoking, smoldering crap in all it's "glory". Your Foundation is a quickly improvised land-grab rally, nothing else. Serves no purpose whatsoever and was established only to grab the land, piss around it and keep then boy-wonder Iconic away from controlling your scam of a coin and well under the wraps of La Mano Nera, ok?

I don't know if the Russian idiot has talent or not as a coder/programmer. Maybe he has, maybe he hasn't. I understand he writes a lot of lines of codes... to no visible effect whatsoever. Your shitcoin is just that, a fork, yet another, of Litecoin, nothing else, Nothing innovative about it, not even speed, as claimed (there are many others way faster). I do know he is an idiot because I have seen behaving like one on IRC, so I am witness, so there. He is also an accomplice of GNU and the DOGE and La Mano Nera, a greedy mofo, just like everyone of you, yes you prominently included.

You may chose to qualify the charges made here and everywhere any which way that suits your agenda and that title you have set for yourself. You are just one of the bad guys in that scam, no matter what you put in your signature, one that not only condones but participates willingly in the mafia-like actions of La Mano Nera. I discredit people like you for your behaviors, that are reprehensible -and in your particular case, insignificant; you are not even a player in that scheme-. And I discredit those who commit what are crimes in the real world and that, for now, remain in impunity in Crypto. I did my research. I accumulated the evidence. It is all out there for everyone to see, judge and decide. No more free rides for the bad guys. The time of reckoning is here.

[barabbas]

Not a legitimate list unless IconicExpert is on there.

You don't read, do you. IconicExpert is prominently included in the Wall of Shame and will remain until he returns the donations. Period. What he is attempting to do, is just unacceptable. And shameful.

this thread will have total freedom, will honor truth and will list all those who people perceived as engaging in shameful acts. Crypto needs to be cleaned and this is just a first step to turn the tables around and get rid of the bums and crooks. Every good guy should be interested in its efficiency.

And yes, post of idiots will abound, goes with the territory. To their own SHAME, the posts will remain here until Bitcointalk wants. Most handles will be sock puppets. All of that is part of the deal. I just happen to believe that the credibility would be achieved by those who deserve it and the ones who don't, no one will, care about the nonsense they post.

It's a process. It has started.

[mistersushi]

No more free rides for the bad guys. The time of reckoning is here.

It's not here, but it's coming, and probably when you least expect it.  You should straighten out and make things right while you still can.

[barabbas]

No more free rides for the bad guys. The time of reckoning is here.

It's not here, but it's coming, and probably when you least expect it.  You should straighten out and make things right while you still can.

Are you going to strong-arm me, Clemenza? Good luck with that!

[mistersushi]

No more free rides for the bad guys. The time of reckoning is here.

It's not here, but it's coming, and probably when you least expect it.  You should straighten out and make things right while you still can.

Are you going to strong-arm me, Clemenza? Good luck with that!

No, I'm not going to strong-arm your skinny, bow-legged ass, Bouzy, and if I was intending to, I certainly wouldn't run my mouth about it online.  I was never stupid enough to fall for your con.  You, on the other hand, fit the pattern of many I've seen before.  The odds are stacking up against you and you don't know when to quit.

[xuanzuofu]

SHIBECOIN deserves a place on this thread, not only was it a complete failure of a coin, the devloper loq stole plenty of money from people through his incessant dumping along with his crony pals. They censor and attack anyone who tries to point this out. Watch out people, they will come after you,.

I will continue to pay close attention to, may try to buy.

[barabbas]

No more free rides for the bad guys. The time of reckoning is here.

It's not here, but it's coming, and probably when you least expect it.  You should straighten out and make things right while you still can.

Are you going to strong-arm me, Clemenza? Good luck with that!

No, I'm not going to strong-arm your skinny, bow-legged ass, Bouzy, and if I was intending to, I certainly wouldn't run my mouth about it online.  I was never stupid enough to fall for your con.  You, on the other hand, fit the pattern of many I've seen before.  The odds are stacking up against you and you don't know when to quit.

I am neither skinny, nor bow-legged and not African American either, but you are just too stupid to see the truth, on anything, if it bits you in your ugly ass.
IE, has indeed not quit and he's hawking another coin, all over tweetter and their thread here, while I am here responding to imbeciles such as you... as well as some much nicer people, of course.

[mistersushi]

No more free rides for the bad guys. The time of reckoning is here.

It's not here, but it's coming, and probably when you least expect it.  You should straighten out and make things right while you still can.

Are you going to strong-arm me, Clemenza? Good luck with that!

No, I'm not going to strong-arm your skinny, bow-legged ass, Bouzy, and if I was intending to, I certainly wouldn't run my mouth about it online.  I was never stupid enough to fall for your con.  You, on the other hand, fit the pattern of many I've seen before.  The odds are stacking up against you and you don't know when to quit.

I am neither skinny, nor bow-legged and not African American either, but you are just too stupid to see the truth, on anything, if it beast you in your ugly ass.
IE, has indeed not quit and he's hawking another coin, all over tweetter and their thread here, while I am here responding to imbeciles such as you... as well as some much nicer people, of course.

Your stilted facade of eloquence is failing you, Mr. Wordwall.  Tick Tock.

[barabbas]

No more free rides for the bad guys. The time of reckoning is here.

It's not here, but it's coming, and probably when you least expect it.  You should straighten out and make things right while you still can.

Are you going to strong-arm me, Clemenza? Good luck with that!

No, I'm not going to strong-arm your skinny, bow-legged ass, Bouzy, and if I was intending to, I certainly wouldn't run my mouth about it online.  I was never stupid enough to fall for your con.  You, on the other hand, fit the pattern of many I've seen before.  The odds are stacking up against you and you don't know when to quit.

I am neither skinny, nor bow-legged and not African American either, but you are just too stupid to see the truth, on anything, if it bits you in your ugly ass.
IE, has indeed not quit and he's hawking another coin, all over tweetter and their thread here, while I am here responding to imbeciles such as you... as well as some much nicer people, of course.

Your stilted facade of eloquence is failing you, Mr. Wordwall.  Tick Tock.

[barabbas]

"Alty", the dev of CLOAK, visited us yesterday... only to be faced with the motive of his inclusion in the WALL OF SHAME. Where CLOAK will remain due, among other things, to the dictatorial censorship that its practiced in their thread and their IRC. It happened again and it won't happen again because I won't post there anymore.

But the post deleted was and answer to a post of "Alty" reining in on the rumor that one of the devs from Libertycoin was part of the dev team of CLOAK. Categorically denying the rumor, "Alty" "assured" everyone that "nobody from XLB is part of my team."

Knowing differently, I posted that the thing about the truth is that you cannot break it in half. Caustic yes but clearly an indication that "Alty" hadn't been totally candid in his "assurance" for, in fact, there's a connection. Technically speaking, it could be true BUT, strictly speaking, it simply is not. In fact one of the members -briefly, to be precise-, of the Libertycoin team, is now a most committed member, in the same capacity and with similar attributions, of team Cloak coin. So the rumors are, in fact, true.

[XbladeX]

...
But no, your assumption is wrong: Of the 75 million in existence, at least half was pre-mined by those two. Clear now?
....

SHOW THOSE PREMINED BC COINS - TIP YOU CAN'T because there weren't any

It doesn't work that way here, smart ass. The evidence and the research has been long published everywhere. It is THEIR burden to prove otherwise.
But worry not, The Doge, the Don, Eugene (Yevgeniy) Rokhlin will have more worries -such as the FBI, the IRS- on his ass than his inclusion in the Wall of Shame. He lives in Brooklyn, that's the US, and here you may get away with crime in cryptoland, but not without generously contributing to Uncle Sam, so consider the "donations" to the Doge, in part, as donations to the IRS. There's some poetic justice in that. And, who knows, with time, there might well be justice, poetic or not, playing a part.

LOL in short YOU only wrote that all BC WAS mined in 7 DAYs (that was known 10 day before lunch)...

AGAIN SHOW THOSE PREMINED BC COINS - TIP: YOU CAN'T because there weren't any
I see that you just can't deliver 40m premine proof... it should be easy if only 2 guys "pemined" 40m BC as you claim...

[kernels10]

don't forget that shitbag fyrstikken. he was invovled in shibe and doje (banknote) and is an all around scamming dirtbag.

Added but more details, as specific as possible would be helpful.

Yes. Show some proof.

[SirChiko]

You should also add Trade Fortress there.

More details, please.

See here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=67058

[gorillajam]

As they say - Hell, It's about time!

Some more candidates:

• Serial opener of scam IPO's - EDG/Numus/etc... - using same style
• ShareXchange operator?

yeal ,the same features, they are shit people and shit coin,

I wish some go guys backed me up when I tried to tell the forum about coins that conform to exactly the same tactics as these ones. I can't be 100% who can? I got zero support just a load of sockpuppets attacking me.


 But Silkcoin is looking exactly like these ones. It's a bit pointless getting annoyed after the Scam has ended, the whole point is to spot and highlight them before they have stolen money.

[TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet]

I only want to be referred to as "The Don Of Wallstreet" now, thank you very much.

I'm going to take my 500 million BC, and buy 7 Wallstreet events and a BlackCoin themed Helicopter, then donate the rest to charity.

It's so hilarious to see StGnu included as well, poor guy does nothing but code, he would be really amused to see his name on a name and shame list, I know he's always been a little jealous, because crazy conspiracy theories only come out about me, and not him. So thank you very much for including him as well, I know this is going to make his day.


p.s. If I had half of the BC economy, wouldn't it be painfully obvious on this public thing we use in crypto called a BlockChain?

[robinf]

Edgecoin  is shit!

[pavondunbar]

I love Blackcoin and will continue to support it and The Foundation the best way I can.

I am not worried about punk ass little fucks like Iconic Expert. He is so fucking dumb anyway that he can't tell his asshole from a hole in the ground. If you know of that sorry ass excuse for a human, you can tell him to GO FUCK HIMSELF. Or better yet, tell his punk ass about this post and I'll tell that fucking cockroach myself.

Fuck IE. Piece of shit. I look forward to reading about his death in the papers soon. Bitch made motherfucker.

--PD

[gorillajam]

I love Blackcoin and will continue to support it and The Foundation the best way I can.

I am not worried about punk ass little fucks like Iconic Expert. He is so fucking dumb anyway that he can't tell his asshole from a hole in the ground. If you know of that sorry ass excuse for a human, you can tell him to GO FUCK HIMSELF. Or better yet, tell his punk ass about this post and I'll tell that fucking cockroach myself.

Fuck IE. Piece of shit. I look forward to reading about his death in the papers soon. Bitch made motherfucker.

--PD

Don't hold back, say what you feel.

[Icardi09]

it seems HONORcoin dev deserve to join the wall of share here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=639043.0

[reRaise]

Sticky this Thread

Where is the admin to sticky this

[lager]

wizzrig and blkhand group are biggest scammers. FACT!

[civilization.team]

yes Loljosh is a Scammer
Is a developer of civilization i Paid him 0.5 btc To do it
It uses another account
soopy452000

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=158610
I think, or I am sure that this person
placebo
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=164164
Working with them
Has sent to me Messages asking 35.000 coin
https://i.imgur.com/2g4GRKj.png
This person is promoted to convince the miners Mining in Any coin
And receives a part of premine
If you look at all the comments
Find it He To defend the premine Because he gets his share of it And if it did not get its share find it attacks this coin
If you see placebo In any coin Leave Or anyone speaking Like a placebo it scam Like a ctz And other Die after a day or two of launch

[swiftraitor]

I don't find anything bad about loljosh. Developing coins for people is not a crime.

[XbladeX]

yes Loljosh is a Scammer
Is a developer of civilization i Paid him 0.5 btc To do it
It uses another account
soopy452000
....

Just wait you have paid him for creation he created it for you and now he is scammer ...
you paid for work and work was done where is scam here ?

Whole XCoin project works that way someone creates coin and those people who hired team are responsible for coin later...
So far i see they created Cinni > Universiti > and much more you paid and you get .
Same templar77 you paid he creates ...
There is no scam just simply deal...
Scamers are people who left coins who hires those creation services for scam purpose IMO

When Exo Etherum Emunie Nem will get mainstream some cop cats trend will be over i hope.
Now we have BC clones fooding market ... Eg. SilkCoin in spec even didn't changed BC sign.

[swiftraitor]

yes Loljosh is a Scammer
Is a developer of civilization i Paid him 0.5 btc To do it
It uses another account
soopy452000
....

Just wait you have paid him for creation he created it for you and now he is scammer ...
you paid for work and work was done where is scam here ?

He lost his pre-mine actually :-p forgot to make it mature and someone else got it and now he is blaming loljosh for stealing his pre-mine.

[coinking]

List of bitcointalk thieves/scammers:
1. NFDcoin / Din (Edgecoin)
2. ziplibrary (Sharexcoin / ShareCoin)
3. BitOffer (HouseofCoins)
4. Visacoin (Visacoin)

"If you are reading this din, i know what you are thinking, "they were so dumb they deserved it", well no being dumb isn't immoral, stealing peoples money how ever is. Someday you are going to grow old and you are going to die and you are going to have to look back on your life and at that point money wont mean anything, your choices here however might. And if they don't than you have an even worse problem. I do not envy you." - Anon136 (this was said about NFDcoin but it's relevent to all thieves/scammers)

I'll 2nd Zip/Sharexcoin/Sharecoin

I did work for this guy - with the promise of payment - which never happened. He asked me to rewrite the about page for Sharexcoin. I did and sent it back, which he updated to the current one when the exchange went down. I had investments stored on the x but I knew it was a risk.. one that came back to bite me in the ass. If anyone is interested I will post the chat - unfortunately he claimed not to have skype and all our transactions were done through bct and email (via admin@sharexcoin.com)

[cinnamon_carter]

I am sure all of this is mostly true but it should be in the scam section not the coin ann section.

To others unaware , yea there is a small group of unethical people who keep making coins and ripping you off.

They control hundreds or thousands of accounts on this forum and twitter as well.

The patterns are not hard to spot.

It continues even now.

[fudbuster]

Great thread! The shitcoins and total scams around here have really gotten out of control. It is high time the crypto community bands together to take our community back!

I'd like to add Leandro Cesar, an old school scammer who cheated people out of tens of thousands of Bitcoins.

He is the founder of Mercado Bitcoin out of Brazil which is still operating today.

Details of his scam can be found here:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rkcxd/the_truth_about_the_mercadobitcoin_hacking_story/

Forum thread where members are still hoping to get paid back is here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160150.680

[TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet]

I'm still waiting for my half of BC economy premine, where can I claim this?

Barabas, I'm going to hold you accountable if I don't receive 35mil BC.

SUCH NAMED, MUCH SHAMED!

[barabbas]

yes Loljosh is a Scammer
Is a developer of civilization i Paid him 0.5 btc To do it
It uses another account
soopy452000
....

Just wait you have paid him for creation he created it for you and now he is scammer ...
you paid for work and work was done where is scam here ?

Whole XCoin project works that way someone creates coin and those people who hired team are responsible for coin later...
So far i see they created Cinni > Universiti > and much more you paid and you get .
Same templar77 you paid he creates ...
There is no scam just simply deal...
Scamers are people who left coins who hires those creation services for scam purpose IMO

When Exo Etherum Emunie Nem will get mainstream some cop cats trend will be over i hope.
Now we have BC clones fooding market ... Eg. SilkCoin in spec even didn't changed BC sign.

As usual, you have your information all screwed up. The only thing that Templar77 and loljosh did for CINNI was to design their logo. Templar77 volunteered to "help" (he does that a lot, lately he was trying to "help" the relaunching of Honor coin... but I busted his ass, so he's out of there, of course), but was rejected when it was painfully evident he did not have anything to contribute. This pair is still scamming the poor people at Libertycoin who they continue to lie to with false hopes of improvements. They DO have a creating coins business, the both of them, consisting in copy/pasting the code of Libertycoin. And the X Coin is an obvious scam for they have been asking for and receiving money with the promise that the coin was going to be launched in May (as late as may 24 he, Templar77, announced in their thread that the launch would be on the 27th. It's 14 days after and not even close to launch. But the path of destruction of these two, which includes Universitycoin and Grumpycoin, is quite easy to follow through Bitcointalk and Google. So try to spot their patterns (not that difficult) and locate the many sock puppet handles they use. Their last scam, already perpetrated in Libertycoin, is the to find a new "dedicated" pool and take  the money of all the miners and disappear the pool (in Libertycoin it was named 24hash.com). Be aware!

[barabbas]

it seems HONORcoin dev deserve to join the wall of share here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=639043.0

There's an attempt to relaunch the coin overtaken by the community and, apparently, with "Jarvis" as the top dog. I already pointed out that he was about to get the "help" offered by Templar77, the Mexican scammer from Libertycoin, Grumpucoin, X Coin, University coin and others. He said he wouldn't accept his help anymore... but chose to not respond to other relevant questions... such as what is in it for him ("Jarvis"), and some others. So while the original dev of Honorcoin is no doubt a scammer, the new people at Honor remains a question mark. Proceeding cautiously is recommended.

[barabbas]

I'm still waiting for my half of BC economy premine, where can I claim this?

Barabas, I'm going to hold you accountable if I don't receive 35mil BC.

SUCH NAMED, MUCH SHAMED!

Doge, Don, Dog, Yevgeniy, I have already posted numerous times, with full details regalia, in many places, how you scammed the Blackcoin investors with the premine of at least 35 mill coins, probably as much as 40 million. I know you have read all the details every time I posted them. The posts remain online all across Bitcointalk, for those interested.

But that's not the only scam you carry on Blackcoin, as posted also numerous times. You and St.GNU own the pool everyone at Blackcoin uses. It is a separate business that belongs to you two, not to Blackcoin, yep, just because it is yours, it has the "exclusive" of Blackcoin miners who are charged the top of the industry 2% for the "privilege". Not only you do not pay the Blackcoin community for the privilege of their sponsorship of YOUR private business but you get incentiviced by La Mano Nera... you know the group (more details below), the one that gave you totally for free the Titan that you guys are raffling to increase the headcount numbers -that has been quite pathetic since your new implementation that gave the miners the opportunity to try other pools with more "generous" results- and your 2% proceeds along the way.

Lets talk again about the group that I call the Black Hand or La Mano Nera, of which you are part and parcel and whose visible head, quite outspoken and public, is the guy who hides his real identity under the handles of morituri13 and Dognip. He is visible because, in his clumsy attempt to debunk the existence of La Mano Nera, he publicly admitted that there was a "group of investors, no contracts just a few papers signed" -this, in the real world, would be organized crime- indeed operating inside Blackcoin. So much inside that they decide the strategy of the coin, bribe their community mouthpiece, Soepkip (yes, we uncovered the 46,000 and change coins that have been "donated" to him by the Black Hand). The group not only donated the Titan you are raffling for YOUR own exclusive benefit -not the community, not the coin, just yours and St.GNU's, the 50/50 owners of the pool, but also picks up the tabs of other expenses in the "run to grab land" that you call Foundation and -I can only assume- the expenses of morituri13 himself, traveling to Miami to be present in the meeting with the PR company along with the ineffable boy in flower pants, Soepkip. But let's concentrate on the important facts of the activities of La Mano Nera. They (with you as the co-decider) decide the overall strategies of the coin, including the absurd expense -community expense- of $30k for nothing but an "evaluation" and I believe 3 press releases. Maybe -I don't know but being suspicious by nature I have to believe there's something there-morituri13 has a personal interest, not unlike yours in the pool,  in  the PR Company... he seemed to be actually working there. Or maybe someone from the Black Hand does. It wouldn't surprise me in the least.  All of it quite transparent, as everyone can see.

I don't personally have any evidence of the "compromising" activities of that other pearl of your "community", Howie Mandel wanna be that appears frequently in your BlackCasts out of a rental car place in Miami. He's probably part of La Mano Nera and his activities in the background have provided significant rumors  about his dumpings, for instance, in the debacle of Libertycoin that you witnessed -that was a first- live, in THEIR Irc channel -theirs only be name for you had the entire contingent of your croonies and assorted ass-kissers taking over the place. Even St.GNU appeared there. One has to actually wonder why the interest... WE know what was the interest. You. And Me.

Along to the meat and potatoes: Not only The Black Hand OWNS Blackcoin, decides every move, every strategy, when and where the proceeds of YOUR pool are reinvested in blackcoins (timing, you have learned, is of importance), but also the gravy of the thing: The orchestrated pumps and dumps. Of course that includes the Black Shield, another scam to the community to ensure that you keep unloading those millions of coins you pre-mined at decent prices and that is the last barrier before the actual top guns, La Mano Nera, proceeds with the pump that, invariably, will be quickly followed by the corresponding dump. Rinse and repeat. And a common slogan so Soepkin plants it elsewhere timely: "Patience. 1BC = 1 Lambo" and the rest of the usual bullshit.

I hope I have answered with generosity all your "doubts", Doge, Don, Dog, Yevgeniy. Just remember, regulation is coming and those darned statutes last 7 years, so clean up your act boy. Oh and statutes or not, the IRS will be calling come April, so have those pool expenses adequately inflated and the rest quite available because they WILL be calling. You still at the place in Roma (Ave) or have moved to more upscale digs? I take you can afford now the laptop you were asking for public help to buy not that long ago... things are indeed looking up but be careful because they will not last much longer.

[barabbas]

Sticky this Thread

How do you "sticky" it?

[barabbas]

Please be aware of "fanboys" who has no shame in attacking competitive coins with no proof or no compelling circumstantial evidence like this "Albinito" guy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=645232.0. There's absolutely nothing wrong with calling out any dev that delays or otherwise doesn't stick to his word in previous announcements... even is, ultimately, he ends up just being a bit "tardy"; it is something else and entirely deplorable and shameful when, like "Albinito" you spread FUD specifically in competitors of "your" coin. In this case, "Albinito" seems to be a fan boy of Darkcoin and wants to do anything he can think of, true or not, to attack coins he perceives as direct competitors of Darkcoin, such as XC or VRC.

SHAME on Albinito.

[qora dan]

Im glad someone is finally exposing all the scammers

[reRaise]

Sticky this Thread

Where is the admin to sticky this

Sticky this shit

[vizique]

That you of all people believe you have the right to stand as judge and jury is quite frankly comical beyond belief.

You throw out baseless accusations page by page and provide little to no evidence in a majority of cases.

It appears that your poisonous vitriol wasnt being heard or effective enough in the threads where you were banned or deleted so in an effort to make yourself heard you came up with this little idea.

It is not the product of a sound and balanced mind and clearly has an agenda that is personal and vindictive depite its "noble" intentions.

You are however, creating for yourself a reputation, a negative one, that will endure so good luck with that.

[Fuserleer]

Thieves and scammers!  DETEST them, no morals whatsoever.

Some of them though have some skill, if only they would see the long game, and put those skills to a legit use....they would make a LOT more in the long run and gain respect from the community.

I also +1 for a Wall of Shame!

[Kuttingcorners]

hey fuseyleer is your coin ever coming out?

[Kuttingcorners]

don't forget Avalon shenzen he stole 1.1 btc off me and some ppl he got for a lot more selling imaginary asic miners!

[Fuserleer]

hey fuseyleer is your coin ever coming out?

yeah, when its right!

I have the luxury of being able to take my time instead of chasing the fast buck lol

[kelsey]

I think add a copy paste build ur own coin 'coder' (and I use the term loosely) or ten to this thread.

[TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet]

I'm still waiting for my half of BC economy premine, where can I claim this?

Barabas, I'm going to hold you accountable if I don't receive 35mil BC.

SUCH NAMED, MUCH SHAMED!

Angry babble.

I welcome regulation, I have a full legal team in place, and perform compliance and record keeping way beyond what current lack of regulation require. Also if that many coins moved through the Blockchain which is public record, any joe shmoe would be able to see-- once again it's just flagrant accusation. From a person who spends his time doing nothing but trolling, and foaming at the mouth.

I'm still waiting for my 35 mil BC Barabas-- I really feel sad now. Yesterday I definitely was not a millionaire, today I am also not a millionaire but I feel like I have lost 35mil BC somehow.

I've printed your post out and put it on my wall, it's extremely flattering that you go through all this trouble-- I've ordered a nice little frame of it, will post pictures when I get it. I wish I was some crazy BC millionaire, my life would certainly be a lot easier, and as far as what the pool makes, all the blocks we acquire is public knowledge, and I have furnished documentation of the pool accounts on more than one occasion, for public and private scrutiny.

Furthermore, if you really truly believe this drivel, feel free to ask either Mintpal-Jay/Jason, or the Cryptsy guys. They are more than well aware of my IP address, and have knowledge of both my personal and pool accounts-- as well as my real name address etc. I talk to them very often, and if you don't take my word for it, ask them how much volume goes through my personal account and the pool accounts. It's about 35million BC shy of 35million

P.s. I've come forward, revealed my identity and have worked closely with community for months now. Why not do the same, oh revealer of truths!

[UNO_owner]

The people that go on my wall of shame, are the ones with obvious grudges that make accusations without any evidence.  A 35 Million premine should be easy to spot on the blockchain.  Links and chain analysis please.

[TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet]

The people that go on my wall of shame, are the ones with obvious grudges that make accusations without any evidence.  A 35 Million premine should be easy to spot on the blockchain.  Links and chain analysis please.

Not to mention I didn't even hear about BC till way after PoW was over-- remember I came in only after RS meltdown-- prior to that I had no idea who or what rat4 was, and had only a vague understanding of what BC was. This is known history, there's dozens of witnesses, chat logs, interviews etc, as well as our Twitter account can be used to timestamp everything we have done and where we were involved from (by we I mean LDG.)

[barabbas]

I'm still waiting for my half of BC economy premine, where can I claim this?

Barabas, I'm going to hold you accountable if I don't receive 35mil BC.

SUCH NAMED, MUCH SHAMED!

Angry babble.

I welcome regulation, I have a full legal team in place, and perform compliance and record keeping way beyond what current lack of regulation require. Also if that many coins moved through the Blockchain which is public record, any joe shmoe would be able to see-- once again it's just flagrant accusation. From a person who spends his time doing nothing but trolling, and foaming at the mouth.

I'm still waiting for my 35 mil BC Barabas-- I really feel sad now. Yesterday I definitely was not a millionaire, today I am also not a millionaire but I feel like I have lost 35mil BC somehow.

I've printed your post out and put it on my wall, it's extremely flattering that you go through all this trouble-- I've ordered a nice little frame of it, will post pictures when I get it. I wish I was some crazy BC millionaire, my life would certainly be a lot easier, and as far as what the pool makes, all the blocks we acquire is public knowledge, and I have furnished documentation of the pool accounts on more than one occasion, for public and private scrutiny.

Furthermore, if you really truly believe this drivel, feel free to ask either Mintpal-Jay/Jason, or the Cryptsy guys. They are more than well aware of my IP address, and have knowledge of both my personal and pool accounts-- as well as my real name address etc. I talk to them very often, and if you don't take my word for it, ask them how much volume goes through my personal account and the pool accounts. It's about 35million BC shy of 35million

P.s. I've come forward, revealed my identity and have worked closely with community for months now. Why not do the same, oh revealer of truths!

First of all you have not "come forward" at all... until exposed BY ME FULLY. Let's make that quite clear, ok? Because your level of deception knows no boundaries. Yevgeniy, you have ALREADY unloaded most if not ALL your pre-mined coins. And no, the 35-40 million were not just yours, I imagine St.GNU got quite a chump of it and, of course, Rat4 too for they were, along with you, the ones doing the pre-mine and quickly diluting and distributing it through many wallets.

I'm glad you are flattered because very little of what you have been accused of, if anything at all, is not the exact truth. Very, very little.

But setting aside your millonaire pre-mine, you still, blatantly, avoid the rest of the fraudulent issues, ALL PROVEN and in effect. The pool, you are exploiting the community for your (and your associate's) benefit. Blatantly. You don't even give them a discount and, certainly, don't give them any of your profits in it. What can you say about that, right? It doesn't even need proving.

And what about The Black Hand, Morituri13/dognip, the donations -not to the community, to your pool-? What about the blatant manipulation, the pumps and dumps, the hurried land-grab that forming the so-called "Foundation" was and is. What was morituri13 doing in the meeting with the PR. Openly, you cannot get away not answering this very direct question: Does morituri13/dognip, or any of the Black Hand (sorry, the "organized group of investors" that "works" with the dev team -that'll be you-, from the inside, orchestrating the pumps and dumps and bribing Soepkip) work for or have a direct relationship with the PR firm to which you are paying $30k that belongs to the community? It is a simple question, isn't it? But careful with your answer because lying and deceiving will not work any longer, so go ahead and stop the bullshit and show the fucking proof. You won't. You can't. Because you are a fraud, and a scam who routinely, and in several schemes, takes the money from the community to his own pocket, ok? And stop directing me to places where you are a customer and that are bound by privacy rules so you know they cannot tell me or anyone -except law enforcement- anything. Stop blowing fucking smoke tpo hide your evident guilt. Address the Mano Nera, that has been publicly admitted, that you belong to taking money from your community and thus reducing your joke of a coin to the pathetic waste of investment money that it is and will be. Address the PROVEN -and oh so cheap, but the guy's a total asshole, so even 46k coins seem even too much, with all his mining and other bribes, beside those 46k he was able to collect only less than 100k. What a fucking loser! ... unless, of course, he has several other wallets, which he probably has. The whole Blackcoin "dev-team" stink of corruption to high heaven, including the guy in where was it Sumatra? I mean what the fuck? You have a member of the team that lives and promotes blackcoin in I do'n even want to remember the country with less population than Phoenix and 10% the economy of Phoenix. What is that shit? Corrupted to the core, you all are. Even those in the Foundation like good-boy Maarten and the ineffable Vizique (are you sending any more croonies here to spread their shit? It's open  to anyone so they all can expose themselves. Time is up. You are the bad guys. And everyone has to know.

Hopefully, they now do.

Either you address the proven, specific charges, admit the corruption that running the pool for your personal benefit is, admit your involvement with the mafia-type "investment group" (The Black Hand), or I will not answer any of your corrupt nonsense anymore. And answer the fucking question... or not. Either way, it will be answer by either admission or omission. You are a bright kid, I have conceded that. But not as bright as you think you are. And your time of wild luck avoiding accountability is quickly coming to an end.

The ball is on your court.

[barabbas]

The people that go on my wall of shame, are the ones with obvious grudges that make accusations without any evidence.  A 35 Million premine should be easy to spot on the blockchain.  Links and chain analysis please.

Are you contending that it cannot be done? Like I said, I have thoroughly researched the issue and that is my conclusion. It wasn't done by just one address or one wallet, it went to many. And all of it is in the blockchain, of course. Most if not all of the initial PoW, during the first 3-4 days, was done by The Don St.GNU and for his pal Rat4. in many wallets. That's how it works, not just in this case but in many others too. No it cannot be mathematically proven -that's why the did it- because, well, everyone HID their identity so the blocks went to 'handles" and to wallets, anonymous ones. Most of them disappeared by now, of course.

But sure as rain, the Doge and his 2 pals got the lions part, probably as much as 40 million coins altogether. That the charge. That's the modus operandi. The evidence is, of course, only circumstantial. But it is there. Have you disturbed yourself with the read of the expose'? Or are you just one more fanboy sent here to spread shit? Either way, those reading this will have to make up their own mind and decide by themselves. That's what THIS Wall of Shame does.

Most people seem to like it, but you can do just as easily start a different one if that is what you feel is needed... It's a free and quite wild world in crypto. I am just exposing, one by one, all the bad guys who need to be put away. Many people is cooperating in the effort. It seems it was high time to do it.

[barabbas]

The people that go on my wall of shame, are the ones with obvious grudges that make accusations without any evidence.  A 35 Million premine should be easy to spot on the blockchain.  Links and chain analysis please.

Not to mention I didn't even hear about BC till way after PoW was over-- remember I came in only after RS meltdown-- prior to that I had no idea who or what rat4 was, and had only a vague understanding of what BC was. This is known history, there's dozens of witnesses, chat logs, interviews etc, as well as our Twitter account can be used to timestamp everything we have done and where we were involved from (by we I mean LDG.)

Proof doge, proof: Very simple: How many wallets do you have? how many BC do you have? how many BTC do you have? Cannot be simpler. And then, come April, you show everyone your Tax filing and the balance of those wallets. Not that hard, is it? Your are exposed now, you are a public figure conducting a business worth several million dollars. You are not getting away with any shit any more. Not from the IRS, not from anyone. And it doesn't matter if you transfer to your family, to your friends and family in the old country, everything is going to be thoroughly investigated by the IRS first and then by regulators. You will be called on your scam. It's just a matter of a few months. So, since I take that you will again fly over the specific questions and proven facts, lets just patiently wait for this time next year when everyone will have access to that filing (it's public, you know?) and see what's in it, ok?

Oh and good luck with using LDG as a shield (by the way, tell us about the Black Shield, another of your schemes to take money from the community to pass it directly to The Black Hand). You are going to have to come with some actual customers, you know. The pool being a customer is like my right hand assisting my left hand while serving in tennis, ok? Oh you are, again, a bright kid, you will have everything figured out, I'm sure...

Or, you can choose to come forward. I fucking DARE you.

[UNO_owner]

The people that go on my wall of shame, are the ones with obvious grudges that make accusations without any evidence.  A 35 Million premine should be easy to spot on the blockchain.  Links and chain analysis please.

Are you contending that it cannot be done? Like I said, I have thoroughly researched the issue and that is my conclusion.

Oh, well, I'll just take your word for it then.  How silly of me.

[rugrats]

The level of fraud, scamming and deceit in cryptos, and very specially in the more and more crowded field of alternative currencies, has reached levels that simple common sense would indicate that something's got to give. It is the responsibility of all those who believe cryptocurrencies are a real alternative to fiat, to protect the single most vulnerable aspect, the most damaging of all, the one that makes every "normal person" literally "run for the exits" when cryptocurrencies are mentioned. Everyone knows fraud and deception is rampant. There's no accountability of course -not yet anyway-, and therefore it is kind of inevitable. But it is our obligation, in my opinion, to police the field to the extent that we can, to protect the integrity of the world of alternative currencies. There will always be scamers and schemes to take other people's money, but at least those coming in with greed in their eyes and hope in their hearts, would have a thread that can show some obvious red flags before jumping into those scams that leave always victims and increase the bad reputation of cryptos. Even when caught pants down, all the scamers have to do, is change their handles and they remain anonymous. This has to stop. They also clear their announcement threads of "FUD", a clumsy pretext to delete "inconvenient" posts that otherwise would linger forever and would be available for research. So, not only are they always -or almost always- anonymous, but they always -or almost always- censor and delete posts on their threads that bring about inconvenient subjects, including potential details of their scams. The scams are protected; the devs, hidden under their anonymous and usually multiple handles, remain anonymous and ready for the usual rinse and repeat... well it's time for a little reckoning. Leveling the playing field somewhat, so to speak: Here's the WALL OF SHAME. Every con, every fraud, every red flag will be posted here. And no, the burden of proof will not be on the posters, but on the devs. Enough of this shitty situation in which they can and do hide under several veils with total impunity. A red flag will be enough. If someone deletes [posts and censors users on their threads, that would be their ticket to enter the WALL OF SHAME; If they delete posts that contains relevant questions that they prefer not to answer, they have gained their post on the WALL OF SHAME; if they say "no pre-mine" and there is in fact indications of other ways of accumulating the coins by taking advantage of their situation: WALL OF SHAME...

Everyone is free to act any which way they choose, but the WALL OF SHAME will be here to collect all the bad guys of crypto, their handles, their schemes,                their coins and every other detail that other users would volunteer.

Lets level the playing field.

No more impunity.

Lets eliminate the bad players.

1.- Templar77, real name Carlos R. Torres Ferguson, out of Mexico DF and the shame behind, among others, Universitycoin, Grumpycoin, Libertycoin and, if it comes to fruition, the upcoming X coin. Read about him in the several different threads of those coins. In many of them you won't find hundreds of posts that have been censored, but you will find entire threads with his exploits and those of his associate, Loljosh. Be aware of these guys.

2.- The Doge of Wall Street, aka Eugene (Yevgeniy) Rokhlin and his associate St.GNU. The former is quite public -he participates usually in the "Blackcasts" on YouTube, the later prefers to remain anonymous. He is the "Don" at Blackcoin and there are substantive charges about him/them pre-mining (to the tune of almost half the entire float of BC) the "no pre-mine" Blackcoin. Besides that, they own the multipool that services Blackcoin, as a separate business and used to "strategically buy BC in the open exchanges... when convenient". Convenient, one assumes, for the Don and his "group of investors" (that would be The Black Hand, a group of investors who operates in cahoots with Rokhlin and St.GNU and that in fact determines all the strategies from the inside. This is an organized group, represented by morituri13/dognip in the community (the guy in the infamous flower pants picture of Soepkip), who "donates" to the pool the Titan miner, for instance, and, obviously, determines when and ad what price the pool buys in to proceed with the usual pumps and dumps that are the base of the income of The Black Hand. Meanwhile, The Don and St.GNU continue dumping their estimated 35-40 million blackcoins premined acquired in the early hours/days of the PoW period. There's plenty of info about the schemes all over Bitcointalk, but don't expect anything remotely in that direction in any of the current managed threads other than the ones dedicates to exposing it specifically: The censor, with extraordinary dilligence, every post that even remotely points in that direction.

3.- This is a new one, the most recent: CLOAK. His dev is "Alty", who also uses the handle "TheDagger". He may or may not have pre-mined (still some PoW as of this writing pending), but he certainly doesn't answer pertinent uncomfortable questions like the one about a charge that while the two initial dedicated pools had a hashing rate of less than 20MH, the entire network boasted in excess of 20GH... Mind you, that is a situation that could happen without any devious scheme going on. Nor very usual but certainly possible. But if that were teh case, would you, as a clean dev, take advantage of the opportunity to explain that you in fact are only responsible for "x" amount of the 20GH+...AND show clear proof of it to dispel any doubts? Now if, on the contrary, you not only avoid to provide an explanation but quickly proceed to delete the posts and ban any questioner from the IRC channel, wouldn't that raise a significant red flag? It is certainly not the best way to provide confidence, trust and transparency, is it? So, since it is very cowardly to not just avoid the questions but delete the posts so others don't pose the same lingering questions, the playing field is leveled: If "Alty" or "The Dagger" provide proof positive they did not pre-mine CLOAK, they (he) will be taken down from the WALL OF SHAME. If not, here it is for everyone to be aware (and cautious) about it.

Fantastic thread. I hope this will be stickied so more people will know and be made aware of this.
A few suggestions.

1. Use more paragraphs - really hard to read the first paragraph.
2. Add more multi coin dev who participates in pump and dump - Shakezula, Baritus, r0ach, iGotSpots, BryceWeiner, etc.
3. Add more coin devs who misuse IPO money - Keccak/Heavycoin, JacobUX/Panda, etc.
4. Add more Chinese dev groups who are starting to drown the market

[barabbas]

That you of all people believe you have the right to stand as judge and jury is quite frankly comical beyond belief.

You throw out baseless accusations page by page and provide little to no evidence in a majority of cases.

It appears that your poisonous vitriol wasnt being heard or effective enough in the threads where you were banned or deleted so in an effort to make yourself heard you came up with this little idea.

It is not the product of a sound and balanced mind and clearly has an agenda that is personal and vindictive depite its "noble" intentions.

You are however, creating for yourself a reputation, a negative one, that will endure so good luck with that.

That's right my boy, this is the page where tyhe people that have perpetrated hundreds of crimes, hundreds of frauds and continue doing so like your boss here, are exposed. Some times with "little to no evidence". You see the problem with that stupid and agenda-serving position of yours, boy, is that it is abundantly easy for anyone falsely accused to prove their innocence. I was about to create a counter to this wall, the WALL OF HONOR. You would expect people to run for the opportunity to be on that wall, right? A badge of honor, so to speak. Yet, none of the accused with "little to no evidence" of their crimes, is able to prove their innocence. They are as rotten and corrupt to the core as your boss is. And they just cannot make it to the honor roll.

Case in point, cannot be closer: CLOAK. They cannot come clean. They act like you guys do down there at BC: You delete "inconvenient" posts. That's a non-no. And they lie. That's a much bigger no-no. Like I posted in the OP, there's only one reason, real reason that is, to delete posts in a public forum, "inconvenient" ones. It is the same reason there is to lie: You want to hide the truth from the people. Because you cannot avoid some questions that are posted, no matter how you try. Like the one I just posted to your boss (3 times, yes). We will get an answer whether it comes from him, straightforward or through his avoidance.

Oh and thank you for attacking my (un)"balanced mind" and my "agenda" (), not to mention your worry about my reputation. You see to kiss ass blatantly to the boss (4 times) may have rewards for you but for others, the noble intentions (without quotes) are way more important. I know you will have difficulty even remotely understanding this and that it will probably have the same effect than baptizing a cat, such is the nature of your character. To me it has to do, in some part, with genetics. But there are other quite sound theories.

Anyway, don't waste your time because I won't deal with you any longer, sorry. Parallel realities, yours and mine. Different worlds altogether. Waste of time. People like you just put a very light smile on my face the 2 seconds a day I allow myself to think about you (in group, not per individual).

[barabbas]

The level of fraud, scamming and deceit in cryptos, and very specially in the more and more crowded field of alternative currencies, has reached levels that simple common sense would indicate that something's got to give. It is the responsibility of all those who believe cryptocurrencies are a real alternative to fiat, to protect the single most vulnerable aspect, the most damaging of all, the one that makes every "normal person" literally "run for the exits" when cryptocurrencies are mentioned. Everyone knows fraud and deception is rampant. There's no accountability of course -not yet anyway-, and therefore it is kind of inevitable. But it is our obligation, in my opinion, to police the field to the extent that we can, to protect the integrity of the world of alternative currencies. There will always be scamers and schemes to take other people's money, but at least those coming in with greed in their eyes and hope in their hearts, would have a thread that can show some obvious red flags before jumping into those scams that leave always victims and increase the bad reputation of cryptos. Even when caught pants down, all the scamers have to do, is change their handles and they remain anonymous. This has to stop. They also clear their announcement threads of "FUD", a clumsy pretext to delete "inconvenient" posts that otherwise would linger forever and would be available for research. So, not only are they always -or almost always- anonymous, but they always -or almost always- censor and delete posts on their threads that bring about inconvenient subjects, including potential details of their scams. The scams are protected; the devs, hidden under their anonymous and usually multiple handles, remain anonymous and ready for the usual rinse and repeat... well it's time for a little reckoning. Leveling the playing field somewhat, so to speak: Here's the WALL OF SHAME. Every con, every fraud, every red flag will be posted here. And no, the burden of proof will not be on the posters, but on the devs. Enough of this shitty situation in which they can and do hide under several veils with total impunity. A red flag will be enough. If someone deletes [posts and censors users on their threads, that would be their ticket to enter the WALL OF SHAME; If they delete posts that contains relevant questions that they prefer not to answer, they have gained their post on the WALL OF SHAME; if they say "no pre-mine" and there is in fact indications of other ways of accumulating the coins by taking advantage of their situation: WALL OF SHAME...

Everyone is free to act any which way they choose, but the WALL OF SHAME will be here to collect all the bad guys of crypto, their handles, their schemes,                their coins and every other detail that other users would volunteer.

Lets level the playing field.

No more impunity.

Lets eliminate the bad players.

1.- Templar77, real name Carlos R. Torres Ferguson, out of Mexico DF and the shame behind, among others, Universitycoin, Grumpycoin, Libertycoin and, if it comes to fruition, the upcoming X coin. Read about him in the several different threads of those coins. In many of them you won't find hundreds of posts that have been censored, but you will find entire threads with his exploits and those of his associate, Loljosh. Be aware of these guys.

2.- The Doge of Wall Street, aka Eugene (Yevgeniy) Rokhlin and his associate St.GNU. The former is quite public -he participates usually in the "Blackcasts" on YouTube, the later prefers to remain anonymous. He is the "Don" at Blackcoin and there are substantive charges about him/them pre-mining (to the tune of almost half the entire float of BC) the "no pre-mine" Blackcoin. Besides that, they own the multipool that services Blackcoin, as a separate business and used to "strategically buy BC in the open exchanges... when convenient". Convenient, one assumes, for the Don and his "group of investors" (that would be The Black Hand, a group of investors who operates in cahoots with Rokhlin and St.GNU and that in fact determines all the strategies from the inside. This is an organized group, represented by morituri13/dognip in the community (the guy in the infamous flower pants picture of Soepkip), who "donates" to the pool the Titan miner, for instance, and, obviously, determines when and ad what price the pool buys in to proceed with the usual pumps and dumps that are the base of the income of The Black Hand. Meanwhile, The Don and St.GNU continue dumping their estimated 35-40 million blackcoins premined acquired in the early hours/days of the PoW period. There's plenty of info about the schemes all over Bitcointalk, but don't expect anything remotely in that direction in any of the current managed threads other than the ones dedicates to exposing it specifically: The censor, with extraordinary dilligence, every post that even remotely points in that direction.

3.- This is a new one, the most recent: CLOAK. His dev is "Alty", who also uses the handle "TheDagger". He may or may not have pre-mined (still some PoW as of this writing pending), but he certainly doesn't answer pertinent uncomfortable questions like the one about a charge that while the two initial dedicated pools had a hashing rate of less than 20MH, the entire network boasted in excess of 20GH... Mind you, that is a situation that could happen without any devious scheme going on. Nor very usual but certainly possible. But if that were teh case, would you, as a clean dev, take advantage of the opportunity to explain that you in fact are only responsible for "x" amount of the 20GH+...AND show clear proof of it to dispel any doubts? Now if, on the contrary, you not only avoid to provide an explanation but quickly proceed to delete the posts and ban any questioner from the IRC channel, wouldn't that raise a significant red flag? It is certainly not the best way to provide confidence, trust and transparency, is it? So, since it is very cowardly to not just avoid the questions but delete the posts so others don't pose the same lingering questions, the playing field is leveled: If "Alty" or "The Dagger" provide proof positive they did not pre-mine CLOAK, they (he) will be taken down from the WALL OF SHAME. If not, here it is for everyone to be aware (and cautious) about it.

Fantastic thread. I hope this will be stickied so more people will know and be made aware of this.
A few suggestions.

1. Use more paragraphs - really hard to read the first paragraph.
2. Add more multi coin dev who participates in pump and dump - Shakezula, Baritus, r0ach, iGotSpots, BryceWeiner, etc.
3. Add more coin devs who misuse IPO money - Keccak/Heavycoin, JacobUX/Panda, etc.
4. Add more Chinese dev groups who are starting to drown the market

Thank you. But I only add your posts and what I personally have knowledge of. If you know of specifics, I'd appreciate if you post it. You just did, but without some specific explanation, these guys will do it over and over and over again. You included BryceWeiner? That surprises me a bit. He's a well know name in crypto, the real name, so it would be nice if you specifically point out what you accuse him of having done or doing. Same with the anonymous ones...

I don't know how to sticky the thread, but if someone tells me, I'll be glad to do it.

[TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet]

I'm still waiting for my half of BC economy premine, where can I claim this?

Barabas, I'm going to hold you accountable if I don't receive 35mil BC.

SUCH NAMED, MUCH SHAMED!

Angry babble.

I welcome regulation, I have a full legal team in place, and perform compliance and record keeping way beyond what current lack of regulation require. Also if that many coins moved through the Blockchain which is public record, any joe shmoe would be able to see-- once again it's just flagrant accusation. From a person who spends his time doing nothing but trolling, and foaming at the mouth.

I'm still waiting for my 35 mil BC Barabas-- I really feel sad now. Yesterday I definitely was not a millionaire, today I am also not a millionaire but I feel like I have lost 35mil BC somehow.

I've printed your post out and put it on my wall, it's extremely flattering that you go through all this trouble-- I've ordered a nice little frame of it, will post pictures when I get it. I wish I was some crazy BC millionaire, my life would certainly be a lot easier, and as far as what the pool makes, all the blocks we acquire is public knowledge, and I have furnished documentation of the pool accounts on more than one occasion, for public and private scrutiny.

Furthermore, if you really truly believe this drivel, feel free to ask either Mintpal-Jay/Jason, or the Cryptsy guys. They are more than well aware of my IP address, and have knowledge of both my personal and pool accounts-- as well as my real name address etc. I talk to them very often, and if you don't take my word for it, ask them how much volume goes through my personal account and the pool accounts. It's about 35million BC shy of 35million

P.s. I've come forward, revealed my identity and have worked closely with community for months now. Why not do the same, oh revealer of truths!

More angry babble.

You exposed me? I went on BlackCast, gave my first and last name and posted it publicly. I've talked with representatives of all major exchanges, some in real life-- they have full knowledge of every account, and IP address I own.

So far you've just been spouting off paranoid BS, with not a single shred of evidence, other than some crazy accusation that I somehow hold 40mil bc. Shit dude, you don't believe me, I live in NY we can meet up in person, I can show you my freaking bank account in person, on webcam, you can rifle through my MacBook Pro if that would make you happy. I have absolutely nothing to hide, and you just come off looking like a paranoid loon.. how many communities have you been kicked out of already?

In fact, I would pay for your Greyhound bus ticket-- we can meet in a Coffee shop or public place, I can show you every single account and wallet I own. The only catch is, I will be live video taping the whole thing

You do know BC history right? You do know how I came to be the pool guy? You do know I was not even anywhere near the BC scene until PoW was waaaaaaaaaaay over?

[barabbas]

The people that go on my wall of shame, are the ones with obvious grudges that make accusations without any evidence.  A 35 Million premine should be easy to spot on the blockchain.  Links and chain analysis please.

Are you contending that it cannot be done? Like I said, I have thoroughly researched the issue and that is my conclusion.

Oh, well, I'll just take your word for it then.  How silly of me.

Do or don't, that's your prerogative as fully explained in the OP.

In this particular case, that charge -and its very compelling evidence-is only one of many OTHERWISE PROVEN, schemes of blatan and evident fraud that to any common sensical person would indicate a very specific pattern of behavior, but how silly of me to think that you would employ common sense and PROVEN FACTS.

[UNO_owner]

The people that go on my wall of shame, are the ones with obvious grudges that make accusations without any evidence.  A 35 Million premine should be easy to spot on the blockchain.  Links and chain analysis please.

Are you contending that it cannot be done? Like I said, I have thoroughly researched the issue and that is my conclusion.

Oh, well, I'll just take your word for it then.  How silly of me.

how silly of me to think that you would employ common sense and PROVEN FACTS.

See, that's just it.  I'm employing common sense by choosing not to believe your libel without proof.  Just like the guy who called Bryce Wiener a pump and dump scammer with no proof.  Same shit, different day.  Enjoy your "wall of shame".

[barabbas]

Cmon barbarass let's meet up, your G-hound tixx on me.

If I'm some massive fraudster, wouldn't you want to confront me face to face? For every one to see? So you can NAME AND SHAME me?

Also I'll be in Washington DC for the Bitcoin in the Beltway conference, feel free to confront me there as well.

No answer as expected, ah? Well, the readers have had your answer loud and clear. You are making money by exploiting the miners of Blackcoin pool. Conflict of interest. Fraud. Scam. The pool, by the way, is not even close to one of the best in ANY metric. No arguments there. It is a FACT.

So Morituri13/dognip, as I suspected, works or has an interest in the PR company, ah? Clean as clean water indeed. My right hand gives money that my left hand puts right back in my pocket. And he obviously decides when the proceed from the pool are invested in BC, ahead of the larger moves by The Black Hand. Peachy.

Not in any hurry to meet with you at all. Less so to be shown what you want to be seen. I'd rather wait to see how you pull that off with the IRS auditors and the FBI. But you can do a video if you like. the one about soepnik is a classic and even after watching it 10 times still hilarious, you you can do better. By the way, what about the crumbs (46k and chage, in BC) thrown flowery pants boy's way as reward for services to the Black Hand. Proven also. Oh, sorry, that's easy for you: "I cannot be made responsible if some generous investors decide to reward unilaterally our marketing guy". See? I have them all for you. Well, not all. morituri13/dognip, has a financial interest in the PR firm, you have confirmed that already by "claiming the 5th", dude.

As you can obviously see, I am of the side that has no interest in breaking bread with the likes of you or other Capones of the crypto world. But no one has bumped me from anywhere, they cant. They would like it. YOU would like it -sorry that I am not interested in your coin or your threads, reddits, ircs any more, haven been for montsh-, but they, nor you, cant. I am persona non-grata, for obvious reasons, at the Libertycoin thread, that scam in progress already thoroughly exposed and on its way to emulate previous scams by the same scammers, but other than that I have seriously questioned a buch of devs and other delinquents in several coins' threads, but have found no blatant evidence of scams. Plenty of deluded individuals, but no evidence of scam to me, so they will not join the Wall of Shame unless I have evidence that they censor their threads. Like you and your cronies do.

On and yes, you are a massive fraudster. Face to face confrontation or not. If I'd know that confronting you would show you for the massive fraudster that you are -meaning access to ALL your accounts and the transfer of funds on specific periods, I could be convinced to face your ugly face, as it is, people with far more stretching powers than me, such as IRS auditors, will have that privilege... and the rest of us, probably through me, will have access to their official findings. In due time.

There's no hurry.

[barabbas]

The people that go on my wall of shame, are the ones with obvious grudges that make accusations without any evidence.  A 35 Million premine should be easy to spot on the blockchain.  Links and chain analysis please.

Are you contending that it cannot be done? Like I said, I have thoroughly researched the issue and that is my conclusion.

Oh, well, I'll just take your word for it then.  How silly of me.

how silly of me to think that you would employ common sense and PROVEN FACTS.

See, that's just it.  I'm employing common sense by choosing not to believe your libel without proof.  Just like the guy who called Bryce Wiener a pump and dump scammer with no proof.  Same shit, different day.  Enjoy your "wall of shame".

And again, that's your prerogative. As is to continue ignoring the PROVEN FACTS.

Libel, by the way, is something quite serious in this country, the old US of A. I don't expect to be served court papers any time soon though. PROVEN FACTS can hardly be called libel.

By people with even a small degree of common sense, of course.

As for the charge on Wiener, you don't know if he has proof or not. Neither do I. For that reason, I ask and you conclude. Shitty difference between you a me, indeed.

Oh and by the way, how come you brand in their forum XC as a fraud and don't post it here, instead of absurd drivel? You also has offered ample spectrum of your "common sense" by  dismissing CINNI and "certainly to go to 0" among other "pearls" of your crypto IQ, your noble characters and your charges without any visible proof of any kind....

You do know your posts can be seen by others, didn't you?

Word to the wise: Check the posters that make suspicious charges (that will include me first and foremost), so you will know a bit of who they are and their potential motivations.

[UNO_owner]

The people that go on my wall of shame, are the ones with obvious grudges that make accusations without any evidence.  A 35 Million premine should be easy to spot on the blockchain.  Links and chain analysis please.

Are you contending that it cannot be done? Like I said, I have thoroughly researched the issue and that is my conclusion.

Oh, well, I'll just take your word for it then.  How silly of me.

how silly of me to think that you would employ common sense and PROVEN FACTS.

See, that's just it.  I'm employing common sense by choosing not to believe your libel without proof.  Just like the guy who called Bryce Wiener a pump and dump scammer with no proof.  Same shit, different day.  Enjoy your "wall of shame".

And again, that's your prerogative. As is to continue ignoring the PROVEN FACTS.

Libel, by the way, is something quite serious in this country, the old US of A. I don't expect to be served court papers any time soon though. PROVEN FACTS can hardly be called libel.

By people with even a small degree of common sense, of course.

As for the charge on Wiener, you don't know if he has proof or not. Neither do I. For that reason, I ask and you conclude. Shitty difference between you a me, indeed.

Oh and by the way, how come you brand in their forum XC as a fraud and don't post it here, instead of absurd drivel? You also has offered ample spectrum of your "common sense" by  dismissing CINNI and "certainly to go to 0" among other "pearls" of your crypto IQ, your noble characters and your charges without any visible proof of any kind....

You do know your posts can be seen by others, didn't you?

Word to the wise: Check the posters that make suspicious charges (that will include me first and foremost), so you will know a bit of who they are and their potential motivations.

So, you bothered to troll through my post history looking for things to discredit what I say - even though it is all irrelevant to this conversation?  Not only are you a tool, you aren't even correct.  Re-read my comment about XC.  I was agreeing with someone who felt bad for others that got screwed by what as near as I can tell, was worthless XC FUD just like this "wall of shame" shit.   My comments about CINNI were in regards to the whales who so royally fucked over that coin so badly on the pump and dump that even when the new wallet is coming out in days, it is having trouble rising to near a fraction of it's deserved value.  Smashing research there jackass.  Is that supposed to help convince me or others that your UNPROVEN FACTS about anyone in this thread are true?

Crypto is a fucking cesspool, full of scammers, fudsters, and teenagers that like to hold a grudge.  There are plenty of people who deserve to be on your wall of shame as long as there is a trail of evidence to go with it.  You have nothing but incoherent ramblings, baseless assertions, and paranoid conjecture accompanying what is an obvious crusade against a few select individuals.  So far, all you've proven to me is that you should be first on your own list.  This will be the last time I feed you troll.  Fuck off.

[TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet]

The people that go on my wall of shame, are the ones with obvious grudges that make accusations without any evidence.  A 35 Million premine should be easy to spot on the blockchain.  Links and chain analysis please.

Are you contending that it cannot be done? Like I said, I have thoroughly researched the issue and that is my conclusion.

Oh, well, I'll just take your word for it then.  How silly of me.

how silly of me to think that you would employ common sense and PROVEN FACTS.

See, that's just it.  I'm employing common sense by choosing not to believe your libel without proof.  Just like the guy who called Bryce Wiener a pump and dump scammer with no proof.  Same shit, different day.  Enjoy your "wall of shame".

And again, that's your prerogative. As is to continue ignoring the PROVEN FACTS.

Libel, by the way, is something quite serious in this country, the old US of A. I don't expect to be served court papers any time soon though. PROVEN FACTS can hardly be called libel.

By people with even a small degree of common sense, of course.

As for the charge on Wiener, you don't know if he has proof or not. Neither do I. For that reason, I ask and you conclude. Shitty difference between you a me, indeed.

Oh and by the way, how come you brand in their forum XC as a fraud and don't post it here, instead of absurd drivel? You also has offered ample spectrum of your "common sense" by  dismissing CINNI and "certainly to go to 0" among other "pearls" of your crypto IQ, your noble characters and your charges without any visible proof of any kind....

You do know your posts can be seen by others, didn't you?

Word to the wise: Check the posters that make suspicious charges (that will include me first and foremost), so you will know a bit of who they are and their potential motivations.

You use the word fact, like you know what it means

IRS/FBI/NSA/NASA/OBAMA can audit me left, right, up down. The fact that you truly believe I have some how managed to accumulate 40 mil BC is so amazing it's mind boggling.

If there was such a giant volume of coins (we're talking half the economy here) it would stick out in the BlockChain like a sore thumb. Especially since the age of the coins would have be really old since you claim I somehow pre mined them (even though I was not even on the BC scene till after PoW was way long and gone.) I mean we are not talking about 1-5 mil coins which can be easily funneled... we are talking 40 mil BC... LITERALLY MORE THAN HALF of all the coins in circulation.

Let me put it to you this way, do you really think if I had close to 5-7 mil USD, I would be spending my night on a Bitcointalk thread, talking to you Barabas, that's like complete life changing money-- hell, I'd be happy with a tiny little fraction of that money.

[barabbas]

The people that go on my wall of shame, are the ones with obvious grudges that make accusations without any evidence.  A 35 Million premine should be easy to spot on the blockchain.  Links and chain analysis please.

Are you contending that it cannot be done? Like I said, I have thoroughly researched the issue and that is my conclusion.

Oh, well, I'll just take your word for it then.  How silly of me.

how silly of me to think that you would employ common sense and PROVEN FACTS.

See, that's just it.  I'm employing common sense by choosing not to believe your libel without proof.  Just like the guy who called Bryce Wiener a pump and dump scammer with no proof.  Same shit, different day.  Enjoy your "wall of shame".

And again, that's your prerogative. As is to continue ignoring the PROVEN FACTS.

Libel, by the way, is something quite serious in this country, the old US of A. I don't expect to be served court papers any time soon though. PROVEN FACTS can hardly be called libel.

By people with even a small degree of common sense, of course.

As for the charge on Wiener, you don't know if he has proof or not. Neither do I. For that reason, I ask and you conclude. Shitty difference between you a me, indeed.

Oh and by the way, how come you brand in their forum XC as a fraud and don't post it here, instead of absurd drivel? You also has offered ample spectrum of your "common sense" by  dismissing CINNI and "certainly to go to 0" among other "pearls" of your crypto IQ, your noble characters and your charges without any visible proof of any kind....

You do know your posts can be seen by others, didn't you?

Word to the wise: Check the posters that make suspicious charges (that will include me first and foremost), so you will know a bit of who they are and their potential motivations.

So, you bothered to troll through my post history looking for things to discredit what I say - even though it is all irrelevant to this conversation?  Not only are you a tool, you aren't even correct.  Re-read my comment about XC.  I was agreeing with someone who felt bad for others that got screwed by what as near as I can tell, was worthless XC FUD just like this "wall of shame" shit.   My comments about CINNI were in regards to the whales who so royally fucked over that coin so badly on the pump and dump that even when the new wallet is coming out in days, it is having trouble rising to near a fraction of it's deserved value.  Smashing research there jackass.  Is that supposed to help convince me or others that your UNPROVEN FACTS about anyone in this thread are true?

Crypto is a fucking cesspool, full of scammers, fudsters, and teenagers that like to hold a grudge.  There are plenty of people who deserve to be on your wall of shame as long as there is a trail of evidence to go with it.  You have nothing but incoherent ramblings, baseless assertions, and paranoid conjecture accompanying what is an obvious crusade against a few select individuals.  So far, all you've proven to me is that you should be first on your own list.  This will be the last time I feed you troll.  Fuck off.

But, dear boy, I am not here to prove to you anything. You are way beyond that, quite frankly. I have exposed some fraudsters for their scams and frauds and post PROVEN FACTS, still in full operation -such as the Blackcoin pool, such as The Black Hand-, that you refuse to see. Hey, it's your privilege and not my problem at all.

Disengaged. Idiot. One more.

[barabbas]

The people that go on my wall of shame, are the ones with obvious grudges that make accusations without any evidence.  A 35 Million premine should be easy to spot on the blockchain.  Links and chain analysis please.

Are you contending that it cannot be done? Like I said, I have thoroughly researched the issue and that is my conclusion.

Oh, well, I'll just take your word for it then.  How silly of me.

how silly of me to think that you would employ common sense and PROVEN FACTS.

See, that's just it.  I'm employing common sense by choosing not to believe your libel without proof.  Just like the guy who called Bryce Wiener a pump and dump scammer with no proof.  Same shit, different day.  Enjoy your "wall of shame".

And again, that's your prerogative. As is to continue ignoring the PROVEN FACTS.

Libel, by the way, is something quite serious in this country, the old US of A. I don't expect to be served court papers any time soon though. PROVEN FACTS can hardly be called libel.

By people with even a small degree of common sense, of course.

As for the charge on Wiener, you don't know if he has proof or not. Neither do I. For that reason, I ask and you conclude. Shitty difference between you a me, indeed.

Oh and by the way, how come you brand in their forum XC as a fraud and don't post it here, instead of absurd drivel? You also has offered ample spectrum of your "common sense" by  dismissing CINNI and "certainly to go to 0" among other "pearls" of your crypto IQ, your noble characters and your charges without any visible proof of any kind....

You do know your posts can be seen by others, didn't you?

Word to the wise: Check the posters that make suspicious charges (that will include me first and foremost), so you will know a bit of who they are and their potential motivations.

You use the word fact, like you know what it means

IRS/FBI/NSA/NASA/OBAMA can audit me left, right, up down. The fact that you truly believe I have some how managed to accumulate 40 mil BC is so amazing it's mind boggling.

If there was such a giant volume of coins (we're talking half the economy here) it would stick out in the BlockChain like a sore thumb. Especially since the age of the coins would have be really old since you claim I somehow pre mined them (even though I was not even on the BC scene till after PoW was way long and gone.) I mean we are not talking about 1-5 mil coins which can be easily funneled... we are talking 40 mil BC... LITERALLY MORE THAN HALF of all the coins in circulation.

Let me put it to you this way, do you really think if I had close to 5-7 mil USD, I would be spending my night on a Bitcointalk thread, talking to you Barabas, that's like complete life changing money-- hell, I'd be happy with a tiny little fraction of that money.

Oh no, come on... a bit too much, isn't it? You don't address the PROVEN FACTS, exposed again and again, because you cannot deny them, therefore you admit the charges -what else could you do, but be silent about them proven facts?- but you keep on trying to cloud the issue that you know I cannot prove with mathematical precision -which is not to say it is not true, IT IS-. First, the 35-40 million coins were not just yours, they were somehow shared with St.GNU and Rat4. so we are talking about 12-13 million each -if shared in equal proportions-. And no, you, bright guy that you are in many things, have been hungry for too long, just like your associates, and started licking the tit immediately. So you have sold most of your millions of coins for very little fiat money. Some as low as hundreds of satoshis (some as high as 90k). All in all, you have made very good money, but not in the millions... collectively, the three of you, have, but currently you are making more through the Pool and, above all, the Black Hand, than selling your remaining BC.

So you in fact have a tiny fraction of that money. Not so tiny but tiny by comparison. And that's why you keep on keeping on. Morituri13 and his pals are indeed a cute no-risk investment.

Enjoy while it last.

And Yevgeniy, enough of the bullshit. Or not. I'm done.

[sammy007]

I wanna say that every "altcoin expert" and "whale" and "advisor" in you following list on twitter and other social is a scam.

[barabbas]

I wanna say that every "altcoin expert" and "whale" and "advisor" in you following list on twitter and other social is a scam.

Uh... Barabbas doesn't as of yet have a Tweeter account. Soon, maybe, but not currently. So no followers. Of any kind.

Oh wait... you still believe I am IconicExpert, don't you?

[TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet]

The people that go on my wall of shame, are the ones with obvious grudges that make accusations without any evidence.  A 35 Million premine should be easy to spot on the blockchain.  Links and chain analysis please.

Are you contending that it cannot be done? Like I said, I have thoroughly researched the issue and that is my conclusion.

Oh, well, I'll just take your word for it then.  How silly of me.

how silly of me to think that you would employ common sense and PROVEN FACTS.

See, that's just it.  I'm employing common sense by choosing not to believe your libel without proof.  Just like the guy who called Bryce Wiener a pump and dump scammer with no proof.  Same shit, different day.  Enjoy your "wall of shame".

And again, that's your prerogative. As is to continue ignoring the PROVEN FACTS.

Libel, by the way, is something quite serious in this country, the old US of A. I don't expect to be served court papers any time soon though. PROVEN FACTS can hardly be called libel.

By people with even a small degree of common sense, of course.

As for the charge on Wiener, you don't know if he has proof or not. Neither do I. For that reason, I ask and you conclude. Shitty difference between you a me, indeed.

Oh and by the way, how come you brand in their forum XC as a fraud and don't post it here, instead of absurd drivel? You also has offered ample spectrum of your "common sense" by  dismissing CINNI and "certainly to go to 0" among other "pearls" of your crypto IQ, your noble characters and your charges without any visible proof of any kind....

You do know your posts can be seen by others, didn't you?

Word to the wise: Check the posters that make suspicious charges (that will include me first and foremost), so you will know a bit of who they are and their potential motivations.

You use the word fact, like you know what it means

IRS/FBI/NSA/NASA/OBAMA can audit me left, right, up down. The fact that you truly believe I have some how managed to accumulate 40 mil BC is so amazing it's mind boggling.

If there was such a giant volume of coins (we're talking half the economy here) it would stick out in the BlockChain like a sore thumb. Especially since the age of the coins would have be really old since you claim I somehow pre mined them (even though I was not even on the BC scene till after PoW was way long and gone.) I mean we are not talking about 1-5 mil coins which can be easily funneled... we are talking 40 mil BC... LITERALLY MORE THAN HALF of all the coins in circulation.

Let me put it to you this way, do you really think if I had close to 5-7 mil USD, I would be spending my night on a Bitcointalk thread, talking to you Barabas, that's like complete life changing money-- hell, I'd be happy with a tiny little fraction of that money.

Oh no, come on... a bit too much, isn't it? You don't address the PROVEN FACTS, exposed again and again, because you cannot deny them, therefore you admit the charges -what else could you do, but be silent about them proven facts?- but you keep on trying to cloud the issue that you know I cannot prove with mathematical precision -which is not to say it is not true, IT IS-. First, the 35-40 million coins were not just yours, they were somehow shared with St.GNU and Rat4. so we are talking about 12-13 million each -if shared in equal proportions-. And no, you, bright guy that you are in many things, have been hungry for too long, just like your associates, and started licking the tit immediately. So you have sold most of your millions of coins for very little fiat money. Some as low as hundreds of satoshis (some as high as 90k). All in all, you have made very good money, but not in the millions... collectively, the three of you, have, but currently you are making more through the Pool and, above all, the Black Hand, than selling your remaining BC.

So you in fact have a tiny fraction of that money. Not so tiny but tiny by comparison. And that's why you keep on keeping on. Morituri13 and his pals are indeed a cute no-risk investment.

Enjoy while it last.

And Yevgeniy, enough of the bullshit. Or not. I'm done.

I love how you use the word proven with out ever providing proof.

How do I know you didn't mine half the BC economy?

[vizique]

Having now read the rambling of this delusional fool for a couple of days now, its clear that he has no proof of the claims he makes, is spiteful and vindictive, is not prepared to accept any answer other than the one he provides, does not listen to reason and is clearly not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Any one with more than 3 brain cells will see this whole thread for what is it, a childs personal sand pit where he can scream, shout and pee his pants in anger.

And as always, people like this hide behind the screen and never reveal their true ID's, ironically they're happy to tell the world mine or yours but not their own.

However, as we know, those of us at the BlackCoin Foundation all show our faces and have nothing to hide. That's the whole point, visibility and transparency. Your pathetic attempts to discredit honest people will get you in trouble one day as you will (or already have) commit libel.... be careful and don't say you weren't warned!

[XbladeX]

...
But no, your assumption is wrong: Of the 75 million in existence, at least half was pre-mined by those two. Clear now?
....

SHOW THOSE PREMINED BC COINS - TIP YOU CAN'T because there weren't any

It doesn't work that way here, smart ass. The evidence and the research has been long published everywhere. It is THEIR burden to prove otherwise.
But worry not, The Doge, the Don, Eugene (Yevgeniy) Rokhlin will have more worries -such as the FBI, the IRS- on his ass than his inclusion in the Wall of Shame. He lives in Brooklyn, that's the US, and here you may get away with crime in cryptoland, but not without generously contributing to Uncle Sam, so consider the "donations" to the Doge, in part, as donations to the IRS. There's some poetic justice in that. And, who knows, with time, there might well be justice, poetic or not, playing a part.

LOL in short YOU only wrote that all BC WAS mined in 7 DAYs (that was known 10 day before lunch)...

AGAIN SHOW THOSE PREMINED BC COINS - TIP: YOU CAN'T because there weren't any
I see that you just can't deliver 40m premine proof... it should be easy if only 2 guys "pemined" 40m BC as you claim...

bump no proff so far...

[barabbas]

ZIPPERCOIN(ZIP)

This one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=634292.20 hurts a little. I supported it and promoted it. Many of my friends and followers downloaded the wallet, earned gifts and were generally as enthusiastic about it as I was. I do not recommend coins to anyone unless they meet the following criteria: They are 100% FREE. At least that way no one will be badly hurt... which, as we just witnessed, doesn't mean they cannot be a scam. I don't understand this particular scam, for I don't see any profit in it for the developers buy the experience in this wild world of crypto has taught us that there doesn't need to be a specific incentive -it may be just playing around-, although generally there is and it is always the same: Money. Not in this case, apparently. But the reality is that the coin, for all intents and purposes, has been abandoned. The dev is MIA. The "event" with the 2 million direct distribution in San Francisco on the 10th of June, evidently did not happen and, unless some late minute action is taken -and it could be too late-, ZIPPERCOIN is history. The wallet, containing the gifts, is out of sync permanently so the deal seems clearly to be done for good.

I have to apologize to all my friends and followers for it. I believed this was going to be THE first free coin to succeed. 40% was going to be distributed, which seemed a lot and not transparent at all but, again, since it was for free, why not give it a chance? Of course no "registration" or any kind of data collection was involved, that would have been a no-no. Just "likings" and "sharings" and "tweetings": No harm to anyone, not possible. Oh and it could all have just been a plot to promote that new social network they will launch later this year, "bumble", because they were giving away 500 ZIP just to visit it and post, some kind of test, I guess.

In any case, it's fair at this point to declare ZIPPERCOIN dead for all intents and purposes and it's develoer/s scammers. It could be someone related to a wealthy family in San Francisco, but I don't know the identity of any of the developer/s. I know they have a link, obvious, to the Bumble networks. And that's that.

A good, clean, honest, 100% transparent and 100% FREE coin will eventually come... if I have to create it myself.

UPDATE ON JUNE 13TH

#Zippercoin had come back... at least to the Twitter account, caustically posting that it has been an amazing week and that they passed 5 miollion ZIPS instead of 2 million, in San Francisco. No evidence of it whatsoever and the count of twitter followers hasn't increased in a significant way to reflect the effects of such giveaway, so we will need significant proof it happen and significant more consistency of presence on their thread and/or twitter.

Their wallet, which did not work for a week, is now working again normally. A bit weird..

[Bluestreet]

MY GOD, FINALLY A NEW ALT THAT ISN'T A SCAM COIN!!!!

Have a look at NLG, it was this post that caught my eye on it today. Sorry for the caps but it's so rare to find a decent coin these days.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=648759.0

[reRaise]

Sticky this Thread

[barabbas]

Yes i can acknowledge this... as he is even hand in hand with the group "Blackhand" on twitter playing pump and scam dumps

Christopher Bouzy is the absolute filth of cryptoland today.

Guys, We have started a twitter account - please follow, retweet and share - its purpose is to expose scams of Christopher Bouzy and prevent further broad daylight robbery.

https://twitter.com/IconicAmateur

We will expose the fuck out of you bouzy boy, your fucking game is up.

Only retards and very disturbed individuals still pretend that IconicExpert, who lives in New York, and me, who live in the West Coast, are the same.

But it's ok, the readers of this wall, hopefully, are normal people and they know what's what.

[barabbas]

Sticky this Thread

No matter how many times you post this and at what text size. If you don't tell me HOW to sticky it, it won't happen; if you do, I will be more than glad to oblige.

I have already posted this, haven't I?

[Ashbite]

IconicExpert, who lives in New York, and me, who live in the West Coast.

THATS A BLATANT LIE.

you guys were caught red handed accessing btctalk from the same IP, from the same computer.

When i exposed the scam, you got flustered and went hiding into your nest.

NIGERIAN FUCKING SCAMMER

They are scammers but dont say that to people man, calm your head bro.
Racism not good, let them live with their own sorrow.

[barabbas]

Keep on qualifying yourselves and trying to perpetuate the absurd and perfectly provable lies... You, coward, live tight here in my backyard. And I have offered already -to your other handle, but it is the same obvious, infantile, racist shit- a meeting in person. I drive. To meet on the inside of your nearest police station, the safest place on the Planet. But you are not interested in that, ah? Your only interest is to perpetuate your blatant lies than consume your racist and despicable instincts tower that guy, IE, who left to leave your scam coin, BC, to inevitably drift towards extinction.

By the way, Doge, Don, Dog, keep on on sending your minions. The parade is quite funny, new accounts and handles and all. You are still and always will be a fraud. And your Mano Nera-handled Blackcoin, a scam. Proven. Admitted publicly.

But this is quite funny indeed.

Hey, retards: The offer to meet in person, still stands. Name the time and the Police station and I will be there. No takers ah?

[barabbas]

Keep on qualifying yourselves and trying to perpetuate the absurd and perfectly provable lies... You, coward, live tight here in my backyard. And I have offered already -to your other handle, but it is the same obvious, infantile, racist shit- a meeting in person. I drive. To meet on the inside of your nearest police station, the safest place on the Planet. But you are not interested in that, ah? Your only interest is to perpetuate your blatant lies than consume your racist and despicable instincts tower that guy, IE, who left to leave your scam coin, BC, to inevitably drift towards extinction.

By the way, Doge, Don, Dog, keep on on sending your minions. The parade is quite funny, new accounts and handles and all. You are still and always will be a fraud. And your Mano Nera-handled Blackcoin, a scam. Proven. Admitted publicly.

But this is quite funny indeed.

Hey, retards: The offer to meet in person, still stands. Name the time and the Police station and I will be there. No takers ah?

Lol. Getting flustered again Bouzy Boy? You are a Nigerian Scammer and the world knows it.

He's moved to a much better things -not a stretch-, but I would love to meet you in person. No deal ah?

[barabbas]

some crap

Btw, I fail to understand why do you want to meet? To rob me? I have never received such a strange request of meeting over the Internet.

FUCKING Strange.

You just confirmed again ICONICEXPERT = BARABBAS = CHRISTOPHER BOUZY = NIGERIAN FUCKING SCAMMER

Nothing strange, little boy. Rob you INSIDE a police station? But you won't do it because you just want to spread your racist nonsense...

Seems legit.

Anyway, DONE with the retards for today.

PS.- Yevgeniy, these fan-boys don't make you look good one bit, but hey you can't look good under any light so I guess trying to litter the thread is all you want to do. Fine with me.

[Zer0Sum]

This thread can be useful to help consumer protection lawyers file claims against bad actors.  If you have been scammed, you want to create a record here of who scammed you (give as much info as you possibly can; make some calls and do some research to try to get names, addresses, IP addresses, etc), when and how and for how much you were scammed (bullet points that outline the facts of your case), and contact information where YOU (the victim) can be reached if some legal action arises in the future.

The statute of limitations is generally about seven (7) years, meaning that a victim has 7 years to file a suit over a claim in tort relating to these matters.  The law is obviously lagging behind the development of crypto, but within a few years we should see law firms getting active in this field, especially consumer protection law firms, and then if we do this right they could come back to this page and collect data for up to 7 years prior if they happen to be going after a perpetrator.  So dont just use this forum as a blacklist, but use it as a register of complaints in anticipation of potential future legal action and remedies into the far future.

The more detailed info people provide here, the more likely it is that lawyers will scan this thread to find ways to bring law suits and maximize the penalties they can claim against bad guys.  Law is a money game like anything else, and if we develop a rich resource (if we build it) they will come...

Nice post.

These "bad actors" hiding behind fake names think they are genius...
Many of these crooked fuckers are pulling these scams from USA, Australia, Canada, EU...
And straight up defrauding 1000s of US citizens of millions of $$$...
Then criminally evading income tax because, you know, it's "hidden" in the BTC block chain.

People with bucks are methodically preparing class action suits...
I know lawyers that are coming to my Bitcoin group to sniff around...
And the end result for these idiots will be something like:

(1)  Extradition to some place like Texas to stand trial for fraud... sentences 20-40+ years.

(2)  Conviction for income tax evasion...
Penalty unpaid tax + 300% penalty + jail time...
So if you bilked the mooks for $1,000,000...
You will owe the Govt $3,000,000 when you are back on the street.

(3)  Your family is going to share this experience with you... so will your cell mate Bubba.

(3)  Best case scenario is privately settling with a lawyered up group that tracks you down.

(4)  LOL... you laugh. Pfffft.

(5)  Here's the biggie >>>>>  you will be banned from using the internet for life like your pedo friends.

(5)  The best internet security experts in the world work with legal firms...
They have Govt/NAS connections and find the scum like you every day...
The REAL TALENT and connections is with the Good Guys... not the on Dark Side.

It's only a matter of time. Can't wait.

[barabbas]

VERICOIN

Yes, vericoin. In the Wall of Shame. Reason? They simply don't play fair. They randomly  kick out any poster from their IRC channel if the question, even minimally, the procedures, let alone criticize anything. Just not acceptable.

There are other red lights too. Extreme arrogance on the part of some of the mods AND their self-proclaimed media front man, which serves the coin and the community very poorly. That is inappropriate behavior in a coin, but specially in a new coin that has, technically, the interesting traces of one that could actually "make it".

A very deep change in behaviors, along with TOTAL transparency, is needed there.

Shameful.

Edit for accuracy: The dev PM me to tell me that the charges couldn't be right because the thread is not moderated. It appears so and I haven't corroborated the charges made by one poster that claimed his part of a post had been deleted, so, for now, that particular charge is erased.

What cannot be erased and I was a witness of myself is the arrogant attitude and blatant censorship exercised in the IRC channel, specifically by the mod "pcmerc". The dev pretends that only "racist" comments are invited to "tone down". Again, no racist comments at all and this mod ejected one poster that was questioning the presence in the VRC IRC channel of known followers or Blackcoin and Libertycoin such as "BlackHanhasdrake" and "BlackhandAfrikanos" as well as "Gatti". The media front-man was also present and witness of the incident.

Censorship of any kind and corresponding lack of transparence, gain an entrance in this wall. And while I have no problem admitting errors, when they occur, I will hold the people responsible for dictatorship behavior that I have personally witnessed. 

[gorillajam]

NEM!

[effectsToCause]

VERICOIN

Yes, vericoin. In the Wall of Shame. Reason? They simply don't play fair. They censor perfectly legitimate posts from their thread and randomly  kick out any poster from their IRC channel if the question, even minimally, the procedures, let alone criticize anything. Just not acceptable.

There are other red lights too. Extreme arrogance on the part of some of the mods AND their self-proclaimed media front man, which serves the coin and the community very poorly. That is inappropriate behavior in a coin, but specially in a new coin that has, technically, the interesting traces of one that could actually "make it".

A very deep change in behaviors, along with TOTAL transparency, is needed there.

Shameful.

Curiously, this poster just came on the VeriCoin thread to give encouragement and descent advice.

I urge anyone reading these claims to ask members of our community, I am confident you will find these accusations to be false.

[effectsToCause]

All the things mentioned here are fabrications.  Just ask our community, our IRC people.  As long as Barabbas doesn't go into our IRC and FUD you won't hear that these statements are true.

Everybody knows the truth effectsToCause.

Bouzy said #VRC was a bad investment and he can;t get over the fact he was made to look like a butthurt dumbass (which he is anyways) when the prices rose sharply.

Barabbas attacking a relatively trouble free Vericoin is more proof of the following equation:

IconicExpert = Christopher Bouzy = Barabbas = Nigerian Fucking Scammer = Dumbass = Butthurt loser.


I am exposing Christopher Bouzy, aka Barabbas, aka IconicExpert, the nigerian fucking scammers scams at https://twitter.com/IconicAmateur. Come collaborate and ensure this gangrene to crypto is weeded out.

Whoever Barabbas is he appears to be trying to play both sides, most would say that is suspicious behavior.

[pnosker]

VERICOIN

Yes, vericoin. In the Wall of Shame. Reason? They simply don't play fair. They censor perfectly legitimate posts from their thread and randomly  kick out any poster from their IRC channel if the question, even minimally, the procedures, let alone criticize anything. Just not acceptable.

There are other red lights too. Extreme arrogance on the part of some of the mods AND their self-proclaimed media front man, which serves the coin and the community very poorly. That is inappropriate behavior in a coin, but specially in a new coin that has, technically, the interesting traces of one that could actually "make it".

A very deep change in behaviors, along with TOTAL transparency, is needed there.

Shameful.

The thread isn't moderated. There's no censoring. I've only ever kicked people for being racist. There is total, 100% transparency in the thread. Look again.

[sdmathis]

VERICOIN

Yes, vericoin. In the Wall of Shame. Reason? They simply don't play fair. They censor perfectly legitimate posts from their thread and randomly  kick out any poster from their IRC channel if the question, even minimally, the procedures, let alone criticize anything. Just not acceptable.

There are other red lights too. Extreme arrogance on the part of some of the mods AND their self-proclaimed media front man, which serves the coin and the community very poorly. That is inappropriate behavior in a coin, but specially in a new coin that has, technically, the interesting traces of one that could actually "make it".

A very deep change in behaviors, along with TOTAL transparency, is needed there.

Shameful.

How can VeriCoin censor posts on the thread when it NOT a self-moderated thread?  As a matter of fact, Barabbas hasn't told even a shade of truth in his post. I think everyone knows that though.

[effectsToCause]

I dont know what you are talking about effectsToCause, my only goal is to expose Christopher Bouzy, the nigerian scammer going by the name of IconicExpert, aka barabbas. I have never visited your IRC. Somebody else is impersonating me for obvious reasons if you have seen me in your IRC. Note down the IP next time you see IconicScum/IconicAmateur in your IRC.

Together we can hunt down the nigerian fucking scammer. Be strong.

I meant barrabas sorry edited my post for clarity

[sdmathis]

I dont know what you are talking about effectsToCause, my only goal is to expose Christopher Bouzy, the nigerian scammer going by the name of IconicExpert, aka barabbas. I have never visited your IRC. Somebody else is impersonating me for obvious reasons if you have seen me in your IRC. Note down the IP next time you see IconicScum/IconicAmateur in your IRC.

Together we can hunt down the nigerian fucking scammer. Be strong.

I think effectsToCause simply hit the wrong button and quoted the wrong person. Barabbas is the one who has been in our forum playing both sides.

[sdmathis]

How can VeriCoin censor posts on the thread when it NOT a self-moderated thread?  As a matter of fact, Barabbas hasn't told even a shade of truth in his post. I think everyone knows that though.

Guys,

Vericoin is being harassed simply because Christopher Bouzy, aka IconicExpert, aka barabbas, the nigerian scammer has a grudge against Vericoin.

We all know the truth.

IconicExpert = Christopher Bouzy = Barabbas = Nigerian Fucking Scammer = Dumbass = Butthurt loser.

Actually, I'd rather be on his bad side than his good side. I don't want him even near VeriCoin. We are a good coin with a good reputation and I'd like to keep it that way.

[darkota]

XC(Xcoin) and now NEM.

[barabbas]

VERICOIN

Yes, vericoin. In the Wall of Shame. Reason? They simply don't play fair. They censor perfectly legitimate posts from their thread and randomly  kick out any poster from their IRC channel if the question, even minimally, the procedures, let alone criticize anything. Just not acceptable.

There are other red lights too. Extreme arrogance on the part of some of the mods AND their self-proclaimed media front man, which serves the coin and the community very poorly. That is inappropriate behavior in a coin, but specially in a new coin that has, technically, the interesting traces of one that could actually "make it".

A very deep change in behaviors, along with TOTAL transparency, is needed there.

Shameful.

The thread isn't moderated. There's no censoring. I've only ever kicked people for being racist. There is total, 100% transparency in the thread. Look again.

Well, in fact, that is simply not true. And you know it for you were present in the IRC channel when your co-moderator, this morning, kicked out one poster. And there were no racist comments whatsoever --he was questioning the presence in the place of well know Blackcoin and Libertycoin supporters. How can you say something that you, me and a bunch of other people present there, know to be false?

And, in response to the other dev at VRC, "effectsToCause", like I responded to you via PM, I am an investor in VRC. I'd very much like it to be successful and I stand to gain if it is. But I did not start the Wall of Shame to include only coins I am not invested in. I know this concept may shock you but some of us -or at least me- play 100% fair. Regardless.

An censorship, of ANY kind, is an automatic entry in the Wall of Shame, whether I am invested in the coin or not.

[barabbas]

XC(Xcoin) and now NEM.

If you don't provide specifics, it is really kind of meaningless.

[darkota]

XC(Xcoin) and now NEM.

If you don't provide specifics, it is really kind of meaningless.

Basically NEM's "leader" Utopianfuture had sockpuppet accounts for NEM stakes and to make the NEM thread look "lively"
See below

and XC was made by loljosh and Templar77(scamming devs who also made other coins such as Libertycoin, Sync, etc etc) Ive seen, not to mention its "xnodes" are not trustless, and there has been report of a user loosing his funds when sending to another wallet on XC(chaeplin)

In this statement will try to address three issues: One is on NEM distributional idea which I don't think many people understand even with many many pages and words have been poured on the issue so far. Secondly, I will address the issue of my personal conduct and the last issue is about what will be the future of NEM and UtopianFuture.

NEM distributional idea is best understood in this summary written in the Development Contract.

"The purpose of the stakeholder community distribution round  is to spread the majority of NEM evenly and to many stakeholders as long as the logistics allows. The goal is to build a big and decentralized community that can support NEM's exsitence and operation as a decentralized network"

IMO, the distribution round was a success. We are now having a big and passionate group of developers and helpers that share the same goal and a sense of solidarity. That's very important because they will be shaping the future of NEM with or without me.

The spread of the distribution round  was excellent as you can see in the population statistics. The number does not lie and we can show that to any detractors.  

I failed in my personal conduct and not adhere to the rules I set myself. If you are familiar with American politics, now I have the Eliot Spitzer or Anthony Weiner problem.

I had a few sockpuppet accounts but I have no intention of cashing out any of them. I did not write down the sock accounts (using an arbitrary password that I can't remember) neither and plan to donate the fees for the development fund. I created sock accounts to keep the thread at a high demand when we have few supporters. Ghosthouse is the only account I kept using more so that I can use it sometimes to cheer up NEM threads.

It is what it is. I apologize to my core team members, to all NEM supporting developers and helpers for this issue. I will step down from now on.

The task of maintaining NEM stakeholder list will be transfered to Patmast3r. He has been sharing the access to the file with me for quite sometimes. NEMtoken account will be passed to Pastmast3r as well.

NEM Twitter account will be transfered to Makoto and he could pass on to the most suitable person.

NEM development fund accounts will be fully transfered to Jaguar0625, Gimre and Thies1965.

Ournem website will be transfered to the core team as well.

Update and Discussion and Refunds threads will be closed after new threads with similar functions can be made up.

All press contacts will be passed to the core team so that they can find an appropriate person for the job.

I resign from all leading function within NEM and this will be the last post of UtopianFuture.

[pnosker]

VERICOIN

Yes, vericoin. In the Wall of Shame. Reason? They simply don't play fair. They censor perfectly legitimate posts from their thread and randomly  kick out any poster from their IRC channel if the question, even minimally, the procedures, let alone criticize anything. Just not acceptable.

There are other red lights too. Extreme arrogance on the part of some of the mods AND their self-proclaimed media front man, which serves the coin and the community very poorly. That is inappropriate behavior in a coin, but specially in a new coin that has, technically, the interesting traces of one that could actually "make it".

A very deep change in behaviors, along with TOTAL transparency, is needed there.

Shameful.

The thread isn't moderated. There's no censoring. I've only ever kicked people for being racist. There is total, 100% transparency in the thread. Look again.

Well, in fact, that is simply not true. And you know it for you were present in the IRC channel when your co-moderator, this morning, kicked out one poster. And there were no racist comments whatsoever --he was questioning the presence in the place of well know Blackcoin and Libertycoin supporters. How can you say something that you, me and a bunch of other people present there, know to be false?

And, in response to the other dev at VRC, "effectsToCause", like I responded to you via PM, I am an investor in VRC. I'd very much like it to be successful and I stand to gain if it is. But I did not start the Wall of Shame to include only coins I am not invested in. I know this concept may shock you but some of us -or at least me- play 100% fair. Regardless.

An censorship, of ANY kind, is an automatic entry in the Wall of Shame, whether I am invested in the coin or not.

The THREAD is not moderated. Take a look at it. Go PM a mod. I don't control the other Ops in #VeriCoin. As far as I know, some person was harassing some channel members and wouldn't stop when warned. That's all I saw.

Anyway, my primary complaint was against you accusing us from deleting posts from the VeriCoin ANN thread. It's just simply not true.

[barabbas]

VERICOIN

Yes, vericoin. In the Wall of Shame. Reason? They simply don't play fair. They censor perfectly legitimate posts from their thread and randomly  kick out any poster from their IRC channel if the question, even minimally, the procedures, let alone criticize anything. Just not acceptable.

There are other red lights too. Extreme arrogance on the part of some of the mods AND their self-proclaimed media front man, which serves the coin and the community very poorly. That is inappropriate behavior in a coin, but specially in a new coin that has, technically, the interesting traces of one that could actually "make it".

A very deep change in behaviors, along with TOTAL transparency, is needed there.

Shameful.

The thread isn't moderated. There's no censoring. I've only ever kicked people for being racist. There is total, 100% transparency in the thread. Look again.

Well, in fact, that is simply not true. And you know it for you were present in the IRC channel when your co-moderator, this morning, kicked out one poster. And there were no racist comments whatsoever --he was questioning the presence in the place of well know Blackcoin and Libertycoin supporters. How can you say something that you, me and a bunch of other people present there, know to be false?

And, in response to the other dev at VRC, "effectsToCause", like I responded to you via PM, I am an investor in VRC. I'd very much like it to be successful and I stand to gain if it is. But I did not start the Wall of Shame to include only coins I am not invested in. I know this concept may shock you but some of us -or at least me- play 100% fair. Regardless.

An censorship, of ANY kind, is an automatic entry in the Wall of Shame, whether I am invested in the coin or not.

The THREAD is not moderated. Take a look at it. Go PM a mod. I don't control the other Ops in #VeriCoin. As far as I know, some person was harassing some channel members and wouldn't stop when warned. That's all I saw.

Anyway, my primary complaint was against you accusing us from deleting posts from the VeriCoin ANN thread. It's just simply not true.

And as that, the charge, THAT ONE, has been dropped.

Problem there is that you pretend now I wasn't there myself even when I told you I was. There was no harassment of any kind. The opposite, as a matter of fact, is the truth. And you were there. And, of course, there was no warning at all -on the first bump, there was an unaceptably arrogant warning  when the poster returned-. So you lie. Twice..."as far as I am concerned".

[barabbas]

PROJECT RESTORING HONOR OR PROJECT LINING UP YOUR POCKETS?

As most of us know by now, the original dev of Honorcoin, scammed the miners he had lured to his coin and run away with an undetermined number of Honorcoins. The disappointed miners decided, some of them, that rather than lose it all -or almost- they were going to take over the operation to try and salvage it. "Jarvis" declared himself the new dev and announced the plan to re-launch the coin on June 20th.

Honor is, indeed, a great name. An asset. So, naturally, I looked into it as soon as I knew of the original scam. And, in principle, it looks quite natural, logic and even interesting. The project, that is. But, mind you, this was a shitty coin to begin with, if there ever was one. It was fully designed to con a few greedy miners and run away with their coins... and undetermined amount that could mean from hundreds of thousands to even one million or more, no one really knows.

When I looked into Jarvis' plan for the relaunch, it was quite obvious that the relaunch was being quite hurried. They literally had nothing. That well know scammer, Templar77,  had even extended his tentacles there to take further advantage of the conned miners. I uncovered his activities to Jarvis and that put a quick end to the "connetion". For a while, I even considered to buy into the "restoration". But I saw too many problems besides the obvious hurry. I posted the problems and even some ideas that I consider solutions. It's all there so you can visit the thread yourselves and decide.

As it stands, the project pretends not to restore the coin, really -which would be very nice if it were not for all the wrong reasons-, but, rather, to line up the pockets of the miners who mined it and were victims of the previous dev. So those holding hundreds of thousands of Honorcoins, of practically no value right now, will not just maintain the coins in the net iteration of Honorcoin but, actually, would receive double the number of coins they have. So will whoever buys in now for a very few satoshis. And so will even the scammer that defrauded them.

All of this is beyond wrong. It will produce a few (35-40 at most), millonaires in worthless coins that will never be worth anything because it represents an absurd distribution  model that has never worked and will never work.

Anyway, like I stated above, I posted profusely in their thread so you can read all the problems I see and also some of the ideas for solutions I volunteered.
Of course, they will continue ahead with their plan while the few satoshis the coin is still worth quickly disappear while they restore, without any changes -only a few and way for the worse- , a coin designed for the sole purpose of scamming them.

You can easily imagine the results.

[pnosker]

Maybe I was there but not paying attention. Either way, it wasn't me that kicked the individual in question.

[KimNam]

the recent scandal in altcoin world is NEM OP
check it out here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=649852.0;topicseen

[Nathonas]

I like this. The amount of shitcoins coming out every day is ridiculous, we need to start looking at the people behind them so nobody will ever trust them again.

[R4v37]

i want to be one of the bad guys...
but i cant... I JUST DONT KNOW HOW 

[TaunSew]

the recent scandal in altcoin world is NEM OP
check it out here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=649852.0;topicseen

Price of a NEM stake is still higher than what it was a week ago, when it closed at 15K NxT.

So much for a scandal.  I would say NxT's distribution and price manipulation was way worse.  Or Visacoin running off with people's money.  Or Maidsafe accepting MtGox's stolen Bitcoins.   All that technically happened was UtopianFuture created fake accounts to bump NEM back in January, accounts which were taken off the stakeholder list before we had all the developers, the 3000 stakeholders, taint analysis, et cetera.

Scandal?  Not really, it's only two people who are vocalizing that it's a scandal, and 30+ people telling them to take a hike.  UtopianFuture is gone now, so these people have no reason to continue.

[pcmerc]

VERICOIN

Yes, vericoin. In the Wall of Shame. Reason? They simply don't play fair. They randomly  kick out any poster from their IRC channel if the question, even minimally, the procedures, let alone criticize anything. Just not acceptable.

There are other red lights too. Extreme arrogance on the part of some of the mods AND their self-proclaimed media front man, which serves the coin and the community very poorly. That is inappropriate behavior in a coin, but specially in a new coin that has, technically, the interesting traces of one that could actually "make it".

A very deep change in behaviors, along with TOTAL transparency, is needed there.

Shameful.

Edit for accuracy: The dev PM me to tell me that the charges couldn't be right because the thread is not moderated. It appears so and I haven't corroborated the charges made by one poster that claimed his part of a post had been deleted, so, for now, that particular charge is erased.

What cannot be erased and I was a witness of myself is the arrogant attitude and blatant censorship exercised in the IRC channel, specifically by the mod "pcmerc". The dev pretends that only "racist" comments are invited to "tone down". Again, no racist comments at all and this mod ejected one poster that was questioning the presence in the VRC IRC channel of known followers or Blackcoin and Libertycoin such as "BlackHanhasdrake" and "BlackhandAfrikanos" as well as "Gatti". The media front-man was also present and witness of the incident.

Censorship of any kind and corresponding lack of transparence, gain an entrance in this wall. And while I have no problem admitting errors, when they occur, I will hold the people responsible for dictatorship behavior that I have personally witnessed. 

You were kicked for running your mouth. The channel is freely open to anyone. Just because you don't care for some individuals in the channel doesn't mean you have a right to drop your diarrhea of the mouth in the channel. Talk to them directly through pm or in the relative channels to the topic you are bitching about, which was blackcoin, libertycoin & whatever else you choose to stir up problems for.

Talk all the shit you like. My track record speaks loudly for me. I help a lot of people & get nothing in return. I do it to because I like to help. What do you do besides run your mouth?

Do you compile wallets that people need or anything outside of just the diarrhea that drips out of your mouth?


pcmerc~

[sdmathis]

VERICOIN

Yes, vericoin. In the Wall of Shame. Reason? They simply don't play fair. They randomly  kick out any poster from their IRC channel if the question, even minimally, the procedures, let alone criticize anything. Just not acceptable.

There are other red lights too. Extreme arrogance on the part of some of the mods AND their self-proclaimed media front man, which serves the coin and the community very poorly. That is inappropriate behavior in a coin, but specially in a new coin that has, technically, the interesting traces of one that could actually "make it".

A very deep change in behaviors, along with TOTAL transparency, is needed there.

Shameful.

Edit for accuracy: The dev PM me to tell me that the charges couldn't be right because the thread is not moderated. It appears so and I haven't corroborated the charges made by one poster that claimed his part of a post had been deleted, so, for now, that particular charge is erased.

What cannot be erased and I was a witness of myself is the arrogant attitude and blatant censorship exercised in the IRC channel, specifically by the mod "pcmerc". The dev pretends that only "racist" comments are invited to "tone down". Again, no racist comments at all and this mod ejected one poster that was questioning the presence in the VRC IRC channel of known followers or Blackcoin and Libertycoin such as "BlackHanhasdrake" and "BlackhandAfrikanos" as well as "Gatti". The media front-man was also present and witness of the incident.

Censorship of any kind and corresponding lack of transparence, gain an entrance in this wall. And while I have no problem admitting errors, when they occur, I will hold the people responsible for dictatorship behavior that I have personally witnessed. 

You were kicked for running your mouth. The channel is freely open to anyone. Just because you don't care for some individuals in the channel doesn't mean you have a right to drop your diarrhea of the mouth in the channel. Talk to them directly through pm or in the relative channels to the topic you are bitching about, which was blackcoin, libertycoin & whatever else you choose to stir up problems for.

Talk all the shit you like. My track record speaks loudly for me. I help a lot of people & get nothing in return. I do it to because I like to help. What do you do besides run your mouth?

Do you compile wallets that people need or anything outside of just the diarrhea that drips out of your mouth?


pcmerc~

Now that explains a lot. Barabbas was kicked for being barabbas. If I were there, I would have kicked you too. Mystery solved.

[barabbas]

VERICOIN

Yes, vericoin. In the Wall of Shame. Reason? They simply don't play fair. They randomly  kick out any poster from their IRC channel if the question, even minimally, the procedures, let alone criticize anything. Just not acceptable.

There are other red lights too. Extreme arrogance on the part of some of the mods AND their self-proclaimed media front man, which serves the coin and the community very poorly. That is inappropriate behavior in a coin, but specially in a new coin that has, technically, the interesting traces of one that could actually "make it".

A very deep change in behaviors, along with TOTAL transparency, is needed there.

Shameful.

Edit for accuracy: The dev PM me to tell me that the charges couldn't be right because the thread is not moderated. It appears so and I haven't corroborated the charges made by one poster that claimed his part of a post had been deleted, so, for now, that particular charge is erased.

What cannot be erased and I was a witness of myself is the arrogant attitude and blatant censorship exercised in the IRC channel, specifically by the mod "pcmerc". The dev pretends that only "racist" comments are invited to "tone down". Again, no racist comments at all and this mod ejected one poster that was questioning the presence in the VRC IRC channel of known followers or Blackcoin and Libertycoin such as "BlackHanhasdrake" and "BlackhandAfrikanos" as well as "Gatti". The media front-man was also present and witness of the incident.

Censorship of any kind and corresponding lack of transparence, gain an entrance in this wall. And while I have no problem admitting errors, when they occur, I will hold the people responsible for dictatorship behavior that I have personally witnessed.  

You were kicked for running your mouth. The channel is freely open to anyone. Just because you don't care for some individuals in the channel doesn't mean you have a right to drop your diarrhea of the mouth in the channel. Talk to them directly through pm or in the relative channels to the topic you are bitching about, which was blackcoin, libertycoin & whatever else you choose to stir up problems for.

Talk all the shit you like. My track record speaks loudly for me. I help a lot of people & get nothing in return. I do it to because I like to help. What do you do besides run your mouth?

Do you compile wallets that people need or anything outside of just the diarrhea that drips out of your mouth?


pcmerc~

No, the channel is NOT freely open to anyone. It is open to anyone who conforms with whatever the fuck you choose to decide you will allow or not, which is quite different and is as simple as arbitrary censorship, little man. The individuals in question had already had quite despicable behavior, completely unrelated to VRC -or any other coin- offering "cock", among quite a few other niceties, to a female guest... all of which, by the way, did not seemed to disturb you at all for you never intervened. Now when those individuals were simply questioned as for their motivation to be there -following a behavior of disruption such as the one they staged inside the Libertycoin channel, so it was not a capricious questioning at all- you, without any warning, bumped off the "offender". Why? Rhetorical question, I am not interested in any answer from you. Your behavior is poison in crypto and should not be tolerated. Certainly it will be condemned here and pointed out for what it is: SHAMEFUL.

[pcmerc]

VERICOIN

Yes, vericoin. In the Wall of Shame. Reason? They simply don't play fair. They randomly  kick out any poster from their IRC channel if the question, even minimally, the procedures, let alone criticize anything. Just not acceptable.

There are other red lights too. Extreme arrogance on the part of some of the mods AND their self-proclaimed media front man, which serves the coin and the community very poorly. That is inappropriate behavior in a coin, but specially in a new coin that has, technically, the interesting traces of one that could actually "make it".

A very deep change in behaviors, along with TOTAL transparency, is needed there.

Shameful.

Edit for accuracy: The dev PM me to tell me that the charges couldn't be right because the thread is not moderated. It appears so and I haven't corroborated the charges made by one poster that claimed his part of a post had been deleted, so, for now, that particular charge is erased.

What cannot be erased and I was a witness of myself is the arrogant attitude and blatant censorship exercised in the IRC channel, specifically by the mod "pcmerc". The dev pretends that only "racist" comments are invited to "tone down". Again, no racist comments at all and this mod ejected one poster that was questioning the presence in the VRC IRC channel of known followers or Blackcoin and Libertycoin such as "BlackHanhasdrake" and "BlackhandAfrikanos" as well as "Gatti". The media front-man was also present and witness of the incident.

Censorship of any kind and corresponding lack of transparence, gain an entrance in this wall. And while I have no problem admitting errors, when they occur, I will hold the people responsible for dictatorship behavior that I have personally witnessed.  

You were kicked for running your mouth. The channel is freely open to anyone. Just because you don't care for some individuals in the channel doesn't mean you have a right to drop your diarrhea of the mouth in the channel. Talk to them directly through pm or in the relative channels to the topic you are bitching about, which was blackcoin, libertycoin & whatever else you choose to stir up problems for.

Talk all the shit you like. My track record speaks loudly for me. I help a lot of people & get nothing in return. I do it to because I like to help. What do you do besides run your mouth?

Do you compile wallets that people need or anything outside of just the diarrhea that drips out of your mouth?


pcmerc~

No, the channel is NOT freely open to anyone. It is open to anyone who conforms with whatever the fuck you choose to decide you will allow or not, which is quite different and is as simple as arbitrary censorship, little man. The individuals in question had already had quite despicable behavior, completely unrelated to VRC -or any other coin- offering "cock", among quite a few other niceties, to a female guest... all of which, by the way, did not seemed to disturb you at all for you never intervened. Now when those individuals were simply questioned as for their motivation to be there -following a behavior of disruption such as the one they staged inside the Libertycoin channel, so it was not a capricious questioning at all- you, without any warning, bumped off the "offender". Why? Rhetorical question, I am not interested in any answer from you. Your behavior is poison in crypto and should not be tolerated. Certainly it will be condemned here and pointed out for what it is: SHAMEFUL.

You're nobody. You're opinions & views mean nothing.


pcmerc~

[From Above]

this threadh as a lot of drama

[IconicExpert]

@barabbas

IconicScum is an idiot and he will soon be revealed. I am just making sure what my legal boundaries are before doing so. He will soon get a taste of his own medicine, but what I am planning will extend well outside of this forum.

Further more, it is time to debunk his claim you and I are the same person. The best way to shutdown baseless fud is with the truth. Can you take a photo holding a blank paper with something like I am barabbas with the date and time. Maybe also a newspaper from your area. Block out your face, it is not needed.

@IconicScum

I guess you didn't get the messages when the IconicAmateur account was banned. Your obsession with me is just sad, I almost feel sorry for you. You created a Twitter account for the sole purpose to Tweet about me. Every post from you ends with Christopher Bouzy "Nigerian Fucking Scammer". What you should be posting is Christopher Bouzy " The man I am deeply obsessed with". The only other time I have seen such obsessive behavior is from a woman who was dumped. Are you so dimwitted that you do not understand no one cares. While you waste your time focusing on me, I make money every day trading crypto, and in the process make other investors money. You will never be able to compete with that. No amount of conspiracy theories and half truths will be able to compete with real money. While you post words on a forum and Tweet BS, I put money in investors bank accounts. Money they can use for real things. All you are doing for them is giving them something to read. So if your goal is to "expose" me and/or turn people against me, then you first better make them more money than I do.

I know who you are, but I let you post your sh!t for a few reasons I wont disclose. You and a few others judge people by their exterior, and underestimate what is on the inside. That is what I meant when I previously posted "you make it easy for me". I have been running circles around you and your other imbecile friends for several weeks, and I will continue to do so. You have been making me money and you don't even know it. Yes you are my bitch and it is time you knew. You are not very smart but eventually you will figure out what I mean.

Lastly, the very last time I PMed Seopkip I made him a promise, ask him what I promised him. You guys pissed off people with very deep pockets, pockets much deeper than you can imagine. The price of BlackCoin is just dwindling, and every time it seems to start moving up, someone just pushes it back down. You and your friends think you have crypto "locked down", but you have no clue. The grownups are here now and your time is running out.

[worhiper_-_]

this threadh as a lot of drama

I think that it's the same story all around. Every forum around the net has similar stories. But yeah, we tend to over do it sometimes. Guess it's because we deal with something that has value. People have a better reason to scam here.

[barabbas]

VERICOIN

Yes, vericoin. In the Wall of Shame. Reason? They simply don't play fair. They randomly  kick out any poster from their IRC channel if the question, even minimally, the procedures, let alone criticize anything. Just not acceptable.

There are other red lights too. Extreme arrogance on the part of some of the mods AND their self-proclaimed media front man, which serves the coin and the community very poorly. That is inappropriate behavior in a coin, but specially in a new coin that has, technically, the interesting traces of one that could actually "make it".

A very deep change in behaviors, along with TOTAL transparency, is needed there.

Shameful.

Edit for accuracy: The dev PM me to tell me that the charges couldn't be right because the thread is not moderated. It appears so and I haven't corroborated the charges made by one poster that claimed his part of a post had been deleted, so, for now, that particular charge is erased.

What cannot be erased and I was a witness of myself is the arrogant attitude and blatant censorship exercised in the IRC channel, specifically by the mod "pcmerc". The dev pretends that only "racist" comments are invited to "tone down". Again, no racist comments at all and this mod ejected one poster that was questioning the presence in the VRC IRC channel of known followers or Blackcoin and Libertycoin such as "BlackHanhasdrake" and "BlackhandAfrikanos" as well as "Gatti". The media front-man was also present and witness of the incident.

Censorship of any kind and corresponding lack of transparence, gain an entrance in this wall. And while I have no problem admitting errors, when they occur, I will hold the people responsible for dictatorship behavior that I have personally witnessed.  

You were kicked for running your mouth. The channel is freely open to anyone. Just because you don't care for some individuals in the channel doesn't mean you have a right to drop your diarrhea of the mouth in the channel. Talk to them directly through pm or in the relative channels to the topic you are bitching about, which was blackcoin, libertycoin & whatever else you choose to stir up problems for.

Talk all the shit you like. My track record speaks loudly for me. I help a lot of people & get nothing in return. I do it to because I like to help. What do you do besides run your mouth?

Do you compile wallets that people need or anything outside of just the diarrhea that drips out of your mouth?


pcmerc~

No, the channel is NOT freely open to anyone. It is open to anyone who conforms with whatever the fuck you choose to decide you will allow or not, which is quite different and is as simple as arbitrary censorship, little man. The individuals in question had already had quite despicable behavior, completely unrelated to VRC -or any other coin- offering "cock", among quite a few other niceties, to a female guest... all of which, by the way, did not seemed to disturb you at all for you never intervened. Now when those individuals were simply questioned as for their motivation to be there -following a behavior of disruption such as the one they staged inside the Libertycoin channel, so it was not a capricious questioning at all- you, without any warning, bumped off the "offender". Why? Rhetorical question, I am not interested in any answer from you. Your behavior is poison in crypto and should not be tolerated. Certainly it will be condemned here and pointed out for what it is: SHAMEFUL.

You're nobody. You're opinions & views mean nothing.


pcmerc~

Speaking for yourself, of course. And it makes a lot of sense for I , unlike you, illiterate, do know the difference between you're and your. Quite an ass-et for the Vericoin community, you are indeed.

[barabbas]

No, IconicExpert, at this stage everyone knows very well, including this asshole, so I am not doing anything to prove what everyone knows.

For some reason that I can only suspect -follow orders- he chooses this thread to spew his vitriol about you, when it would be so easy for him to do it in your twitter, so we all know he does know. Enough of that shit anyways. He may post anything he wants here, just like anyone. I just like anyone who so chooses, will simply ignore him.

[IconicExpert]

Im a pussy that hides behind a computer screen.

You are not from Buffalo NY, but you are a pussy. It is sad how much of a pussy you really are. You post my name every chance you get, but you hide behind a username because you are terrified of what will happen to you. You are keyboard brave but you are a pussy on the inside. I will go back to ignoring you because I dont have time for pussies.

[From Above]

All your fucking scams are out Bouzy boy, you filthy dirty stinky nigerian fucking scammer

ive not been following this thread and frankly i dont care. but Are u extreme racist?

[heartastack]

We need a new thread so this whole thread can be on the ultimate wall of shame. What a pathetic bunch

[sammy007]

Don't forget to mention Max Keiser. One of the biggest scams in crypto history. Everyone know how he endorsed MaxCoin.
It's not enough for him and now StartCoin there. I noticed his tweets about this scam. FYI, StartCoin is obvious scam, it's traded on mcxnow before even announce on this forum. I noticed a couple of thousands blocks premined. Now this scam trading on bittrex. It's probably on of the insolent scams in crypto history.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=651307

http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/startcoin-on-mcxnow-despite-50-pre-mine-because-of-max-keiser

[syldh]

what

[Spoetnik]

there is a whole entire forum section for this here if some you don't know..

Scam Accusations =  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0
Reputation = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0

[Spoetnik]

Don't forget to mention Max Keiser. One of the biggest scams in crypto history. Everyone know how he endorsed MaxCoin.
It's not enough for him and now StartCoin there. I noticed his tweets about this scam. FYI, StartCoin is obvious scam, it's traded on mcxnow before even announce on this forum. I noticed a couple of thousands blocks premined. Now this scam trading on bittrex. It's probably on of the insolent scams in crypto history.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=651307

http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/startcoin-on-mcxnow-despite-50-pre-mine-because-of-max-keiser

wow

and it was funny how coins-e had the exclusive on max coin but had a broken market for a month.. YOU couldn't see ANY orders on books.
while mcxnow had it working normally on launch day.. combined with their cheating bs launch..
they lied about having a windows wallet ready for launch.. what it was is a DAEMON not a windows wallet
they all over kept calling it a windows wallet which it's not.. and we found out only when the password was unleashed on launch day.
i've had a ton of pro's agree with me on it too.. pure scam from that fuck head and his lacky paid cloners

i couldn't connect for the first 8 hrs until they released a fixed windows daemon .exe with a change log saying it fixed connection problems for some people.
as soon as i dropped in the new exe i was synced and mining in 1 sec flat !
while noobs ran around saying anyone like me just didn't know what we were doing..
while Max himself deceitfully ran around saying how great the launch went.

it goes on and on..

Max Keiser and his coin cloner(s) he had make his coin etc are fucking scamming lying weazle pieces of shit !

oh yeah and fuck mxcnow that place and the dipshit running it is a scammer from hell too !
if you have coins on there well good luck with that lol
don't be surprised if he decides to randomly shut the exchange down.. he has done it before.

PS:
i am mining Max coin right now hhahaha

fuck why do we even do this dumb crap ? it's all a never ending shit pile mountain of scammers..

they should rename the ALT coin section to the Scam coin section and no i won't type out L o L after this sentence ..it's not funny

[chases]

I'm not sure if this is relevant for the wall of shame, However, I feel that folks need to be informed of all types of
fraud that is taking place in the crypto world.
My accusations of thievery go to the alt coin exchange known as Coinex.pw
This site has been stealing coins for over 2 months now and is STILL open and accepting deposits from unsuspecting traders.
when someone deposits their coins into their account, they do not get credited to their account. There is no
response from their support and no admins. in their chat. This is not FUD, I have proof of this site taking my own 0.265 btc deposit
and never credited it to my account, and according to the blockchain, my Bitcoin had been spent. I hope this
info saves some other traders from losing money to these thieves. Coinex.pw is a scam site and needs to be shut down, and the
owners need to be held responsible for their actions! Thanks for creating this thread. I know it will be very useful for many.
peace and happy trading

chuck
 

[barabbas]

I'm not sure if this is relevant for the wall of shame, However, I feel that folks need to be informed of all types of
fraud that is taking place in the crypto world.
My accusations of thievery go to the alt coin exchange known as Coinex.pw
This site has been stealing coins for over 2 months now and is STILL open and accepting deposits from unsuspecting traders.
when someone deposits their coins into their account, they do not get credited to their account. There is no
response from their support and no admins. in their chat. This is not FUD, I have proof of this site taking my own 0.265 btc deposit
and never credited it to my account, and according to the blockchain, my Bitcoin had been spent. I hope this
info saves some other traders from losing money to these thieves. Coinex.pw is a scam site and needs to be shut down, and the
owners need to be held responsible for their actions! Thanks for creating this thread. I know it will be very useful for many.
peace and happy trading

chuck
 

Thank you for posting your experience and yes, any shameful behavior in crypto does belong in the WALL OF SHAME as a red flag for others.

[barabbas]

The Libertycoin saga continues. Those who supported the known scammer Carlos Torres Ferguson, aka Templar77, when the community en masse asked for as supported the take over of the coin by IconicExpert, are now behind this attempt to take over which is, in fact, just a very poor attempt at salvaging as much as possible of their stakes and that will be a total failure for several reasons, first amongst them, that none of the can tell their mouths from their asses in what concerns alternative coins, crypto communities, etc. But not only that, the likes of "gatti", "Shogun 40 AND 47" and several others involved, have, of course, no plan, no strategy, no ideas... no NOTHING... except that what is left of the community, should pay for their "efforts". And they have already started asking for money... good luck for that. Although if all those evangelists on TV can convince people to send money to them, why not these inept people wanting to salvage a coin that, just like all the rest of the coffins left by Templar77 in his path of coin destruction, was conceived strictly as a scam tool. These guys bring nothing, absolutely nothing to the table. But boy can they ask for money! If you support their efforts, just like if you bought into this coin at some point after it's listing not just on the WALL OF SHAME but across Bitcointalk in at least 5 different threads -some of the censored, of course, but not all- you can't claim ignorance.

What they are attempting to do, is even more shameful than what they already SUPPORTED against the will of the then burgeoning community's wishes. And you should, instead of supporting their absurd attempt, take good note of their handles, for they are everywhere. Get to know them and their ideas instead. It may save you money and disappointments in the future.

[YAdaminer]

i want to be one of the bad guys...
but i cant... I JUST DONT KNOW HOW 

It's easy, you must say that FUD is strong in barabbas. That is how I ended on his famous wall
If you want to see whole disscusion check https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=513613.2740

[YAdaminer]

Another one bites the dust:

Yadaminer, at CAIx coin. I had been researching the coin because it has had an enormous decline in price and my curiosity was piqued: It could be the end of it or a great investing opportunity. I researched their very confusing and complicated model and had a lot of questions and clarifications. Naturally, I posted them in their forum to get answers. I got some answers -not even close to all the answers- and the ones I got weren't even close to satisfactory. But judge for yourselves: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=513613.new#new

Yadaminer earned his position here, as posted, for being an idiot and a coward. And posting insulting FUD to try to cover the obvious weakness of the coin and the model that, by the way, continues speeding down towards the precipice. I don't know if they are scammers or not, but some of them, at least this Yadaminer, acts like one. Because there's impunity. Not NO FUCKING MORE. If you cannot stand the heat get the fuck out of the kitchen!

So what to say when you call someone names like idiot, coward and acting like scammer spreading insulting FUD while you were only one spreading it and in same breath you say that you dont know... hm how to call such guy, hm, hm... sure I must be idot if I don't know that.
It's easy to insult isnt it because there's impunity.
And if you want to be voice of reason then please just put right link to disscusion so people can realy check if they want.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=513613.2740

[Zooey]

So, erm, where's this wall of shame again?

[barabbas]

Another one bites the dust:

Yadaminer, at CAIx coin. I had been researching the coin because it has had an enormous decline in price and my curiosity was piqued: It could be the end of it or a great investing opportunity. I researched their very confusing and complicated model and had a lot of questions and clarifications. Naturally, I posted them in their forum to get answers. I got some answers -not even close to all the answers- and the ones I got weren't even close to satisfactory. But judge for yourselves: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=513613.new#new

Yadaminer earned his position here, as posted, for being an idiot and a coward. And posting insulting FUD to try to cover the obvious weakness of the coin and the model that, by the way, continues speeding down towards the precipice. I don't know if they are scammers or not, but some of them, at least this Yadaminer, acts like one. Because there's impunity. Not NO FUCKING MORE. If you cannot stand the heat get the fuck out of the kitchen!

So what to say when you call someone names like idiot, coward and acting like scammer spreading insulting FUD while you were only one spreading it and in same breath you say that you dont know... hm how to call such guy, hm, hm... sure I must be idot if I don't know that.
It's easy to insult isnt it because there's impunity.
And if you want to be voice of reason then please just put right link to disscusion so people can realy check if they want.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=513613.2740

The link was already posted because, you know, I give people ALL the information AND LINKS so they can figure out the merits of the claims by themselves.

Once again, you used -as you are accustomed to do- the term FUD to both insult me -who was posting ALL the legitimate questions and asking for answers and clarifications- and you just wanted to cloud that legitimacy and keep the enormous pile of shit that there is on CAIX under the rug so newbies could be tricked into buying your shitcoin -yours in the way of investment at least-. Such behavior is SHAMEFUL and completely uncalled for. You can respond with your arguments -even if they are fallacies-, but using the expression FUD as a launching weapon will, indeed, warrant your inclusion in the WALL OF SHAME.

Pretending to cover it under the veil of humor, I'm afraid requires quite a bit more brainpower than you can provide, just like pretending that sort of didn't happen... like you do here. Adding insult to injury, you pretend to promote your shitcoin here as if people who read this WALL can be easily tricked as the market puts your shitcoin it its corresponding position.

[Coinasaur]

Yes i can acknowledge this... as he is even hand in hand with the group "Blackhand" on twitter playing pump and scam dumps

Christopher Bouzy is the absolute filth of cryptoland today.

Guys, We have started a twitter account - please follow, retweet and share - its purpose is to expose scams of Christopher Bouzy and prevent further broad daylight robbery.

https://twitter.com/IconicAmateur

We will expose the fuck out of you bouzy boy, your fucking game is up.

Only retards and very disturbed individuals still pretend that IconicExpert, who lives in New York, and me, who live in the West Coast, are the same.

But it's ok, the readers of this wall, hopefully, are normal people and they know what's what.

ok barabbas, prove you live on the west coast. Lets see a handwritten note with your name (not real name barabbas is fine), date and time and at least 5 local publications from todays or future dates.. . If you do it, Ill fly you down to texas and buy you a porterhouse and apologize personally. I killed it on a few coins this month so I can afford it. Maybe I was the one with 40mil BC, eh?

[Coinasaur]

and while youre at it add Razor coin to the list. A brand new scrypt only coin run by a guy with a whole farm of scrypt asics. If youre calling premine on TheDonofWallSt then youve gotta know that bryce weiner is raping the Razor network and has a HUGE chunk of it.

[barabbas]

and while youre at it add Razor coin to the list. A brand new scrypt only coin run by a guy with a whole farm of scrypt asics. If youre calling premine on TheDonofWallSt then youve gotta know that bryce weiner is raping the Razor network and has a HUGE chunk of it.

You just added it and him, no need for me to even investigate.

Now, one thing is scamming people and one, entirely different, is mining with one's farm during PoW which is open to ANYONE at all and you could rent double the hash power of him and, consequently, collect double his stash of coins. That behavior is legitimate and, in a capitalist society, admissible and not deserving shame for it implied a more than considerable risk and an opportunity equal for everyone. If that's the only thing you accuse Bryce of doing in Razor, sorry but it is not reason, in and of itself, to include him in the WALL OF SHAME.

As for the "offer" you would have to considerably sweeten the deal for me to prove it to you but since you can afford it (congrats!), for 3 BTC (deposited in escrow, of course) I would comply with your requirement. Think what you'll save in flying me, transports and that succulent T-Bone dinner.

The public apology will still be a requirement though. Deal or is it just running your mouth?

[barabbas]

Yes i can acknowledge this... as he is even hand in hand with the group "Blackhand" on twitter playing pump and scam dumps

Christopher Bouzy is the absolute filth of cryptoland today.

Guys, We have started a twitter account - please follow, retweet and share - its purpose is to expose scams of Christopher Bouzy and prevent further broad daylight robbery.

https://twitter.com/IconicAmateur

We will expose the fuck out of you bouzy boy, your fucking game is up.

Only retards and very disturbed individuals still pretend that IconicExpert, who lives in New York, and me, who live in the West Coast, are the same.

But it's ok, the readers of this wall, hopefully, are normal people and they know what's what.

ok barabbas, prove you live on the west coast. Lets see a handwritten note with your name (not real name barabbas is fine), date and time and at least 5 local publications from todays or future dates.. . If you do it, Ill fly you down to texas and buy you a porterhouse and apologize personally. I killed it on a few coins this month so I can afford it. Maybe I was the one with 40mil BC, eh?

This was answered, challenge accepted and terms slightly changed. Naturally, it proved that "Coinasaur" is just another idiot full of hot air. No answer. No challenge carried out. No nothing. The words of yet another cowardly idiot. Welcome to THE WALL OF SHAME. Everyone will now know who and what you are.

[Coinasaur]

HA, Classic Iconic. "I'll do this thing for you but you've gotta pay me to make it worth my while."  Iconic didnt find it that hard to prove he was in new york, are you saying hes better than you? And before you point out the obvious, I know that I am arguing about your dual persona and using the other persona as an example to use in my argument, which by its very nature is specious.

[barabbas]

Time for another addition to THE WALL OF SHAME. This time, it isn't a coin that is a scam. Nor a Pool, multi or otherwise. This time around it is a publication:

CRYPTOARTICLES.COM: SHAME ON YOU

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Cryptoarticles.com is a blog or digital publication, that is the brainchild of Serge Schouterden and Jean-Pierre Buntinx tow crypto enthusiast that have found a way to obtain  a nice income by writing little "articles" about all your favorite alternative currencies. The blog also links you to relevant videos about, provides useful guides and even "reviews" of some products and services. Sergio and Jean-Pierre started Cryptoarticles.com in January 2014 and, if it is true what they post on the site, it has grown quite a bit in only 6 months to the point it has now 1,100 unique visitors and 1,500 page-views every day.

So what is the problem, would you ask? what's "shameful" about it? But of course, the wrong, shameful part is, you guessed it, MONEY. The reality is that Cryptoarticles doesn't include any real article, but just small promo notes disguised as articles and whose ONLY purpose is to bleed the donations, that are not just encouraged but solicited at the end of each "article". In the currency subject of the note, to make it even more precise. That is shameful.

And it is not just shameful in the gross promotional pandering, it also has an inevitable, equally shameful, repercussion: These notes are customarily posted on threads, twitters, etc by the interested communities that would do just about anything to hype their coins, and referred as "articles"... some times, to avoid the ridicule, as "small articles" when in reality are just pandering banter, nothing else.

The suspension of common sense and even the most basic rules of decency are, indeed, a trademark in Crypto, where reality has no similarity whatsoever with the real world. It is a curse of crypto and one of the main reasons for the regular people to avoid it like the plague of dishonesty and lawlessness that it is. Cryptoarticles.com is part of that problem, part and parcel. And, by no means the only one of that same short -as a matter of fact there are several similar blogs, in several languages, that do exactly the same or variations thereof. Including, of course, YouTube "channels" and the like. We will eventually get to most if not all of them, either individually or as the group.

Word of advice: If the site is not independent, you are not getting information, you are being sold something. Stop supporting other people's hobbies and demand real information, real reviews, real professional coverage. You will be helping weed off the bad guys of Crypto and providing a first very important step to get cryptocurrencies closer to their position in the future economies of the world. Help eliminate the bad players.

[cryptolaw666]

Evidence is suggesting that ccryptcoin(dev of cryptcoin) is actually gldcoin(original dev of goldcoin)
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=664520.0


Cryptcoin witches sacrifice investors with betrayal of trust,
june 20 to june 21, on the evening or night of the summer solstice
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=662616.0


I am glad to see you are still trying to be upright barabas

[barabbas]

HA, Classic Iconic. "I'll do this thing for you but you've gotta pay me to make it worth my while."  Iconic didnt find it that hard to prove he was in new york, are you saying hes better than you? And before you point out the obvious, I know that I am arguing about your dual persona and using the other persona as an example to use in my argument, which by its very nature is specious.

What, 3 BTC too much for you? How much would it cost to bring me down to Texas for dinner? I calculated something quite similar to 3 BTC, I did not choose the amount arbitrarily. You are just HOT AIR, a cowardly idiot, just that. Want to make it 2 BTC instead? Want to make it much more? It is up to you. What I won't do is share, ever a table with you not to mention the fact that I have much better things with my time than visit with you in Texas even with expenses fully paid. It was YOUR challenge. Put up or by all means, shut the fuck up.

[Coinasaur]

HA, Classic Iconic. "I'll do this thing for you but you've gotta pay me to make it worth my while."  Iconic didnt find it that hard to prove he was in new york, are you saying hes better than you? And before you point out the obvious, I know that I am arguing about your dual persona and using the other persona as an example to use in my argument, which by its very nature is specious.

What, 3 BTC too much for you? How much would it cost to bring me down to Texas for dinner? I calculated something quite similar to 3 BTC, I did not choose the amount arbitrarily. You are just HOT AIR, a cowardly idiot, just that. Want to make it 2 BTC instead? Want to make it much more? It is up to you. What I won't do is share, ever a table with you not to mention the fact that I have much better things with my time than visit with you in Texas even with expenses fully paid. It was YOUR challenge. Put up or by all means, shut the fuck up.

The point was that this was my challenge, and in a truly Iconic fashion, you shifted the attention away from proving who you really are to something entirely different. This time youre just shifting it around yet again like you always do to make it about me having to do something to motivate you to do it instead of actually just replying directly and getting shit taken care of. Typical stall tactic. Shift the focus to whether or not I have the BTC to put up instead of just putting up yourself. I called you out first remember. So ball is in your court not mine.

[darkota]

HA, Classic Iconic. "I'll do this thing for you but you've gotta pay me to make it worth my while."  Iconic didnt find it that hard to prove he was in new york, are you saying hes better than you? And before you point out the obvious, I know that I am arguing about your dual persona and using the other persona as an example to use in my argument, which by its very nature is specious.

What, 3 BTC too much for you? How much would it cost to bring me down to Texas for dinner? I calculated something quite similar to 3 BTC, I did not choose the amount arbitrarily. You are just HOT AIR, a cowardly idiot, just that. Want to make it 2 BTC instead? Want to make it much more? It is up to you. What I won't do is share, ever a table with you not to mention the fact that I have much better things with my time than visit with you in Texas even with expenses fully paid. It was YOUR challenge. Put up or by all means, shut the fuck up.

The point was that this was my challenge, and in a truly Iconic fashion, you shifted the attention away from proving who you really are to something entirely different. This time youre just shifting it around yet again like you always do to make it about me having to do something to motivate you to do it instead of actually just replying directly and getting shit taken care of. Typical stall tactic. Shift the focus to whether or not I have the BTC to put up instead of just putting up yourself. I called you out first remember. So ball is in your court not mine.

We are watching you Mr Roberts...We are watching you.

[Coinasaur]

dafuq is Mr Roberts?

[barabbas]

HA, Classic Iconic. "I'll do this thing for you but you've gotta pay me to make it worth my while."  Iconic didnt find it that hard to prove he was in new york, are you saying hes better than you? And before you point out the obvious, I know that I am arguing about your dual persona and using the other persona as an example to use in my argument, which by its very nature is specious.

What, 3 BTC too much for you? How much would it cost to bring me down to Texas for dinner? I calculated something quite similar to 3 BTC, I did not choose the amount arbitrarily. You are just HOT AIR, a cowardly idiot, just that. Want to make it 2 BTC instead? Want to make it much more? It is up to you. What I won't do is share, ever a table with you not to mention the fact that I have much better things with my time than visit with you in Texas even with expenses fully paid. It was YOUR challenge. Put up or by all means, shut the fuck up.

The point was that this was my challenge, and in a truly Iconic fashion, you shifted the attention away from proving who you really are to something entirely different. This time youre just shifting it around yet again like you always do to make it about me having to do something to motivate you to do it instead of actually just replying directly and getting shit taken care of. Typical stall tactic. Shift the focus to whether or not I have the BTC to put up instead of just putting up yourself. I called you out first remember. So ball is in your court not mine.

Final chance: You want me to prove I am not IE. I have offered to do it, in a matter of hours, for the cost more or less similar that you proposed. It's either 3 BTC or 2 BTC. Or whatever above that you choose. You cowardly idiot are in or out? There's no ifs, no buts and most definitely no more jerking off. Either put up or shut up.

[barabbas]

HA, Classic Iconic. "I'll do this thing for you but you've gotta pay me to make it worth my while."  Iconic didnt find it that hard to prove he was in new york, are you saying hes better than you? And before you point out the obvious, I know that I am arguing about your dual persona and using the other persona as an example to use in my argument, which by its very nature is specious.

What, 3 BTC too much for you? How much would it cost to bring me down to Texas for dinner? I calculated something quite similar to 3 BTC, I did not choose the amount arbitrarily. You are just HOT AIR, a cowardly idiot, just that. Want to make it 2 BTC instead? Want to make it much more? It is up to you. What I won't do is share, ever a table with you not to mention the fact that I have much better things with my time than visit with you in Texas even with expenses fully paid. It was YOUR challenge. Put up or by all means, shut the fuck up.

The point was that this was my challenge, and in a truly Iconic fashion, you shifted the attention away from proving who you really are to something entirely different. This time youre just shifting it around yet again like you always do to make it about me having to do something to motivate you to do it instead of actually just replying directly and getting shit taken care of. Typical stall tactic. Shift the focus to whether or not I have the BTC to put up instead of just putting up yourself. I called you out first remember. So ball is in your court not mine.

We are watching you Mr Roberts...We are watching you.

Thank you. Counting on it.

[darkota]

dafuq is Mr Roberts?

lmfaoooo, I was hoping it was one of you guys...would of been hilarious if roberts was actually your last name.

[Coinasaur]

dafuq is Mr Roberts?

lmfaoooo, I was hoping it was one of you guys...would of been hilarious if roberts was actually your last name.

ROFLMAO!! that would be hilarious!
and barabbas, ball is in your court. you have my terms. pray i dont alter them any further
this guys is worse than Vader. always altering terms

[barabbas]

dafuq is Mr Roberts?

lmfaoooo, I was hoping it was one of you guys...would of been hilarious if roberts was actually your last name.

ROFLMAO!! that would be hilarious!
and barabbas, ball is in your court. you have my terms. pray i dont alter them any further
this guys is worse than Vader. always altering terms

Your terms cowardly idiot is that I go to Texas? hot air and shit, that's what you are. And a coward.
Put the money, 3 BTC (or more) and I do what you wanted me to do. Within the hour. Otherwise, I won't waste one more minute of my time on you. End of story.

I venture that you don't have even 0.3 BTC to your name.

[Coinasaur]

dafuq is Mr Roberts?

lmfaoooo, I was hoping it was one of you guys...would of been hilarious if roberts was actually your last name.

ROFLMAO!! that would be hilarious!
and barabbas, ball is in your court. you have my terms. pray i dont alter them any further
this guys is worse than Vader. always altering terms

Your terms cowardly idiot is that I go to Texas? hot air and shit, that's what you are. And a coward.
Put the money, 3 BTC (or more) and I do what you wanted me to do. Within the hour. Otherwise, I won't waste one more minute of my time on you. End of story.

I venture that you don't have even 0.3 BTC to your name.

my terms are to take a simple image of some local publications with todays date on them and a note saying im barabbas or something. the reward would be an apology. learn to pay attention. With all the effort it you spend trolling, would have takenthe same amount of effort and time to do that you chose to be a scumbag instead and just start shit.

[barabbas]

dafuq is Mr Roberts?

lmfaoooo, I was hoping it was one of you guys...would of been hilarious if roberts was actually your last name.

ROFLMAO!! that would be hilarious!
and barabbas, ball is in your court. you have my terms. pray i dont alter them any further
this guys is worse than Vader. always altering terms

Your terms cowardly idiot is that I go to Texas? hot air and shit, that's what you are. And a coward.
Put the money, 3 BTC (or more) and I do what you wanted me to do. Within the hour. Otherwise, I won't waste one more minute of my time on you. End of story.

I venture that you don't have even 0.3 BTC to your name.

my terms are to take a simple image of some local publications with todays date on them and a note saying im barabbas or something. the reward would be an apology. learn to pay attention. With all the effort it you spend trolling, would have takenthe same amount of effort and time to do that you chose to be a scumbag instead and just start shit.

Corroborating that you are just a coward piece of shit worth 25 cents at most on a good day. Get lost loser.

[barabbas]

IS THE BLACK HAND NOW IN VERICOIN?

First of all, lets make this perfectly clear: I have no indication whatsoever that there was anything wrong, in the way of scams, with Vericoin. As a matter of fact the only obstacle to list Vericoin in the WALL OF HONOR was the fact that their thread is censored and much more censored their IRC,. Also as a matter of fact, not only I have traded Vericoin quite successfully in the recent past but I also hold, at the time of this writing, what I consider a significant investment in it.

Most of the previous considerations held true... until the dawn of June 25 when, continuing an upside trend of significance, Vericoin experimented a huge pump of almost 80% to a high above 46000 sat (on Cryptsy... peculiarly the high was just 38666 on Mintpal. The subsequent dump -both on huge volume- took it down to 25/26 on Mintpal and Cryptsy respectively. "It is just another pump & dump instance", you say? well, color me a bit skeptical if you will for I believe I have circumstantial evidence that points to an infiltration of The Black Hand in Vericoin. You know, the infamous Black Hand of Blackcoin that I have uncovered (not that they were precisely hiding their activities, more like brag about them by the visible leader of the gang, Morituri13/Dognip).

This P&D has the footprints of the so many times repeated scheme on Blackcoin that, to me, reveals a clear modus operandi. But lets forget about the gut feeling and go with the evidence: We all know, since a couple days ago, who the developers of Vericoin are: Two students from Rutgers University and one ex- Rutgers alumni who works as a programmer for Microsoft, Open Drive division. These guys had no connection whatsoever with Blackcoin, right? Well, not quite. One of them Patrick Nosker, has expressed and posted "appreciation" of Blackcoin... not exactly something he has dispensed towards other competing coins. Besides, I believe they have somehow adopted for Vericoin some of the features of Blackcoin. What they have shared with Blackcoin, for sure, is an investing game which is the brainchild of Eugene (Yevgeniy) Rokhlin  and his associate St.Gnu, both owners of the Blackcoin multipool, and both core members of the dev team at Blackcoin as well as their foundation. Nothing in itself suspicious at all, right?

But there's more. A certain Joel Bosh, better known as a Howie Mandel look-and-copied-style-alike, Puerto Rican of Cuban parents and owner of a clothing company in Miami, known in crypto for some of his handles, such as WizFarm and WizRig, as well as for being instrumental and host of the Blackcasts of Blackcoin, is all of a sudden all over the place not just promoting Vericoin but also "brokering" deals for them. Now Bosch is Black Hand I'm pretty sure, and he is also a Miami resident... coincidentally the city where both Blackcoin and Vericoin just have happened to contract separate PR agencies to promote their respective coins. Furthermore, I believe Morituri13/Dognip actually works for the one that Blackcoin contracted and that was visited by the infamous Soepkip in flowery pants. Soepkip posed at the entrance of the PR firm with none other than a very formally at-work-dressed Morituri13/Dognip. So, same deal, different firm, same location, same commission for Bosch? I can't know for sure at this stage, but all of these circumstances point very clear to me towards one direction. And it is ALWAYS, WHERE THE MONEY IS. And the money is in the P&Ds, same exact formula than the one used so many times, successfully, in Blackcoin.

So what is what I call The Black Hand or La Mano Nera? Well, in the real world, they would have been thrown in jail a long time ago for what they do is organized crime, pure and simple. Oh not strong arming anyone for "protection", mind you, but the newer version of insider trading which, in crypto, means to actually decide the actions and strategies to procure the most profitable pump and dump schemes, from the time and place of the investments of the "mined" proceedings to the creation of The Black Shield to dump into it under the pretension that it's a tool to try and stabilize the price. In the warped world of crypto, this type of activity is not just condoned or ignored by the BC community, but it is even something to brag about. And brag he (morituri13/Dognip) did, posting on the original BC thread that they were "a group of investors, without formal contract, just some papers signed". This "group of investors" is the one facilitating the unload of the millions of coins premined by Yevgeniy and his associates, designing the strategy and donating significant amounts towards the contract of BC with Morituri13's PR firm, and also donating the Titan drawn for the benefit of Yevgeniy and St.GNU's pool, among many other deeds.

There are other "groups of investors" manipulating crypto markets, of course. The difference is that The Black Hand operates from the inside, with not just access to inside information, all the information, but also actually designing the overall strategy. Quite a big difference indeed. The difference between freedom and jail in the real world.

Has The Black Hand infiltrated Vericoin? I cannot know for sure. You will have to be the judge.

 

[barabbas]

As a follow up to the previous entry, I posted this on the Vericoin thread after fully confirming all the points posted above:

As I posted on THE WALL OF SHAME, confirmation, on every regard, has come quickly enough. The Black Hand has used the exact same footprint and "modus operandi" already in Vericoin as they used -and continue using- in Blackcoin. Blackcoin is actually more or less done for averyone knows by know the money will eventually be squeezed from them fully, little bits at a time, all the way to the end. But The Black Hand has made a killing in BC and, obviously, is branching out. Vericoin is, of course, a new field where they envision similar profits or even higher than those they reaped on Blackcoin.

Patrick, I know you have read everything I have written about The Black Hand. I know you are not ignorant. And I know that you know, in the real world, this kind of behavior sends you to jail, despite any claims you may propose of ignorance as to their motives and actual involvement. Let me put it to you in plain English so you cannot keep on pretending to not understand: It is perfectly ok, and unavoidable, that The Black Hand or any other organized groups, would attempt to manipulate the market of Vericoin. Nothing, really that you can -or should- do about it. The problem is that you are PART AND PARCEL of the scheme by allowing them not just co-operation but full access to inside information. If Joel Bosch "helps" you broker a deal with a PR firm, you surely know that he helped, similarily, broker the deal with Blackcoin/Morituri13/Dognip for the PR firm also. And you know, because you have read, the specific and quite detailed charges made on not just that but overall Bosch's and Morituri13/dognip implications. By accepting their "brokerage" you are, in fact, sanctioning The Black Hand's access to inside information in Vericoin, exactly the opposite of what a new, promising coin with a clean reputation, should be doing which is rejecting ANY and ALL relationship with a coin, and organized crime group and some shady specific individuals whose antics have been detailed widely all over these forums, including the first, unmoderated one of them. Same thing applies to the "little game" you share with Yevgeniy and StGNU.

In other words Patrick, tempting as it obviously is -and quite profitable your dumping of last night-, you cannot handle shit and pretend to avoid the stink.

Of course for so many investors in Vericoin the rush of last night would be like a drug they just cannot leave in hopes for a repeat so they will be the ones dumping near the top rather than being left holding the bag, like it already happened. Well, up to you gents, but be aware that you are playing with the bulls now, swimming with the sharks. And you WILL get the horns.

What a shameful pity, only made worse by the clumsy and absurd attempts at denial...

[Icardi09]

you must list OP of this coin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=627799.0
he scammed few people for funny coin

[sdmathis]

IS THE BLACK HAND NOW IN VERICOIN?

First of all, lets make this perfectly clear: I have no indication whatsoever that there was anything wrong, in the way of scams, with Vericoin. As a matter of fact the only obstacle to list Vericoin in the WALL OF HONOR was the fact that their thread is censored and much more censored their IRC,. Also as a matter of fact, not only I have traded Vericoin quite successfully in the recent past but I also hold, at the time of this writing, what I consider a significant investment in it.

Most of the previous considerations held true... until the dawn of June 25 when, continuing an upside trend of significance, Vericoin experimented a huge pump of almost 80% to a high above 46000 sat (on Cryptsy... peculiarly the high was just 38666 on Mintpal. The subsequent dump -both on huge volume- took it down to 25/26 on Mintpal and Cryptsy respectively. "It is just another pump & dump instance", you say? well, color me a bit skeptical if you will for I believe I have circumstantial evidence that points to an infiltration of The Black Hand in Vericoin. You know, the infamous Black Hand of Blackcoin that I have uncovered (not that they were precisely hiding their activities, more like brag about them by the visible leader of the gang, Morituri13/Dognip).

This P&D has the footprints of the so many times repeated scheme on Blackcoin that, to me, reveals a clear modus operandi. But lets forget about the gut feeling and go with the evidence: We all know, since a couple days ago, who the developers of Vericoin are: Two students from Rutgers University and one ex- Rutgers alumni who works as a programmer for Microsoft, Open Drive division. These guys had no connection whatsoever with Blackcoin, right? Well, not quite. One of them Patrick Nosker, has expressed and posted "appreciation" of Blackcoin... not exactly something he has dispensed towards other competing coins. Besides, I believe they have somehow adopted for Vericoin some of the features of Blackcoin. What they have shared with Blackcoin, for sure, is an investing game which is the brainchild of Eugene (Yevgeniy) Rokhlin  and his associate St.Gnu, both owners of the Blackcoin multipool, and both core members of the dev team at Blackcoin as well as their foundation. Nothing in itself suspicious at all, right?

But there's more. A certain Joel Bosh, better known as a Howie Mandel look-and-copied-style-alike, Puerto Rican of Cuban parents and owner of a clothing company in Miami, known in crypto for some of his handles, such as WizFarm and WizRig, as well as for being instrumental and host of the Blackcasts of Blackcoin, is all of a sudden all over the place not just promoting Vericoin but also "brokering" deals for them. Now Bosch is Black Hand I'm pretty sure, and he is also a Miami resident... coincidentally the city where both Blackcoin and Vericoin just have happened to contract separate PR agencies to promote their respective coins. Furthermore, I believe Morituri13/Dognip actually works for the one that Blackcoin contracted and that was visited by the infamous Soepkip in flowery pants. Soepkip posed at the entrance of the PR firm with none other than a very formally at-work-dressed Morituri13/Dognip. So, same deal, different firm, same location, same commission for Bosch? I can't know for sure at this stage, but all of these circumstances point very clear to me towards one direction. And it is ALWAYS, WHERE THE MONEY IS. And the money is in the P&Ds, same exact formula than the one used so many times, successfully, in Blackcoin.

So what is what I call The Black Hand or La Mano Nera? Well, in the real world, they would have been thrown in jail a long time ago for what they do is organized crime, pure and simple. Oh not strong arming anyone for "protection", mind you, but the newer version of insider trading which, in crypto, means to actually decide the actions and strategies to procure the most profitable pump and dump schemes, from the time and place of the investments of the "mined" proceedings to the creation of The Black Shield to dump into it under the pretension that it's a tool to try and stabilize the price. In the warped world of crypto, this type of activity is not just condoned or ignored by the BC community, but it is even something to brag about. And brag he (morituri13/Dognip) did, posting on the original BC thread that they were "a group of investors, without formal contract, just some papers signed". This "group of investors" is the one facilitating the unload of the millions of coins premined by Yevgeniy and his associates, designing the strategy and donating significant amounts towards the contract of BC with Morituri13's PR firm, and also donating the Titan drawn for the benefit of Yevgeniy and St.GNU's pool, among many other deeds.

There are other "groups of investors" manipulating crypto markets, of course. The difference is that The Black Hand operates from the inside, with not just access to inside information, all the information, but also actually designing the overall strategy. Quite a big difference indeed. The difference between freedom and jail in the real world.

Has The Black Hand infiltrated Vericoin? I cannot know for sure. You will have to be the judge.

 

You've posted accusations and speculation, but no evidence. Where's your evidence? Hell, there's more evidence that Elvis is still alive than you've presented here.

[barabbas]

IS THE BLACK HAND NOW IN VERICOIN?

First of all, lets make this perfectly clear: I have no indication whatsoever that there was anything wrong, in the way of scams, with Vericoin. As a matter of fact the only obstacle to list Vericoin in the WALL OF HONOR was the fact that their thread is censored and much more censored their IRC,. Also as a matter of fact, not only I have traded Vericoin quite successfully in the recent past but I also hold, at the time of this writing, what I consider a significant investment in it.

Most of the previous considerations held true... until the dawn of June 25 when, continuing an upside trend of significance, Vericoin experimented a huge pump of almost 80% to a high above 46000 sat (on Cryptsy... peculiarly the high was just 38666 on Mintpal. The subsequent dump -both on huge volume- took it down to 25/26 on Mintpal and Cryptsy respectively. "It is just another pump & dump instance", you say? well, color me a bit skeptical if you will for I believe I have circumstantial evidence that points to an infiltration of The Black Hand in Vericoin. You know, the infamous Black Hand of Blackcoin that I have uncovered (not that they were precisely hiding their activities, more like brag about them by the visible leader of the gang, Morituri13/Dognip).

This P&D has the footprints of the so many times repeated scheme on Blackcoin that, to me, reveals a clear modus operandi. But lets forget about the gut feeling and go with the evidence: We all know, since a couple days ago, who the developers of Vericoin are: Two students from Rutgers University and one ex- Rutgers alumni who works as a programmer for Microsoft, Open Drive division. These guys had no connection whatsoever with Blackcoin, right? Well, not quite. One of them Patrick Nosker, has expressed and posted "appreciation" of Blackcoin... not exactly something he has dispensed towards other competing coins. Besides, I believe they have somehow adopted for Vericoin some of the features of Blackcoin. What they have shared with Blackcoin, for sure, is an investing game which is the brainchild of Eugene (Yevgeniy) Rokhlin  and his associate St.Gnu, both owners of the Blackcoin multipool, and both core members of the dev team at Blackcoin as well as their foundation. Nothing in itself suspicious at all, right?

But there's more. A certain Joel Bosh, better known as a Howie Mandel look-and-copied-style-alike, Puerto Rican of Cuban parents and owner of a clothing company in Miami, known in crypto for some of his handles, such as WizFarm and WizRig, as well as for being instrumental and host of the Blackcasts of Blackcoin, is all of a sudden all over the place not just promoting Vericoin but also "brokering" deals for them. Now Bosch is Black Hand I'm pretty sure, and he is also a Miami resident... coincidentally the city where both Blackcoin and Vericoin just have happened to contract separate PR agencies to promote their respective coins. Furthermore, I believe Morituri13/Dognip actually works for the one that Blackcoin contracted and that was visited by the infamous Soepkip in flowery pants. Soepkip posed at the entrance of the PR firm with none other than a very formally at-work-dressed Morituri13/Dognip. So, same deal, different firm, same location, same commission for Bosch? I can't know for sure at this stage, but all of these circumstances point very clear to me towards one direction. And it is ALWAYS, WHERE THE MONEY IS. And the money is in the P&Ds, same exact formula than the one used so many times, successfully, in Blackcoin.

So what is what I call The Black Hand or La Mano Nera? Well, in the real world, they would have been thrown in jail a long time ago for what they do is organized crime, pure and simple. Oh not strong arming anyone for "protection", mind you, but the newer version of insider trading which, in crypto, means to actually decide the actions and strategies to procure the most profitable pump and dump schemes, from the time and place of the investments of the "mined" proceedings to the creation of The Black Shield to dump into it under the pretension that it's a tool to try and stabilize the price. In the warped world of crypto, this type of activity is not just condoned or ignored by the BC community, but it is even something to brag about. And brag he (morituri13/Dognip) did, posting on the original BC thread that they were "a group of investors, without formal contract, just some papers signed". This "group of investors" is the one facilitating the unload of the millions of coins premined by Yevgeniy and his associates, designing the strategy and donating significant amounts towards the contract of BC with Morituri13's PR firm, and also donating the Titan drawn for the benefit of Yevgeniy and St.GNU's pool, among many other deeds.

There are other "groups of investors" manipulating crypto markets, of course. The difference is that The Black Hand operates from the inside, with not just access to inside information, all the information, but also actually designing the overall strategy. Quite a big difference indeed. The difference between freedom and jail in the real world.

Has The Black Hand infiltrated Vericoin? I cannot know for sure. You will have to be the judge.

 

You've posted accusations and speculation, but no evidence. Where's your evidence? Hell, there's more evidence that Elvis is still alive than you've presented here.

As posted above, all conjecture has been fully confirmed: The Black Hand is now part and parcel of Vericoin.

[blacklizard]

The Black Hand has used the exact same footprint and "modus operandi" already in Vericoin as they used -and continue using- in Blackcoin

Could you kindly lay out this "footprint" and/or "modus operandi" like in a chart or drawing or so? I would be interested in seeing it in b/w. Maybe you could cross-reference it to chart movements and massive dumps/humps. I'm sure the community would appreciate it.

[XbladeX]

...

As posted above, all conjecture has been fully confirmed: The Black Hand is now part and parcel of Vericoin.

If you see hard pump in 5days coin goes 3x-10x and close to 5m market cap?
You don't need to be genius to see what will happened next.
Only crypto noobs or retards will buy now (as investment) price will be corrected to market value and those idiots who bough market ponzi on top they will be bernerd hard.

Educative game to all those market moments:
theblackdogeofwallstreet.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehcs4qg09Co
- just lenr to play ponzi games in crypto.
If you want invest invest in depths not on pumps...
And you will be smarter than 80% greedy people.

[barabbas]

MINTPAL:SHAMEFUL

By now everyone in crypto must know about the "theft" of 8 million VRC in the MintPal Exchange of the early hours of July 14th. As the official version goes, the successful attack of the exchange by  hackers resulted in the seizure of 8 million VRC... and nothing else. Other than the confirmation on the part of the VRC dev team, nothing on the way of proof of such hack/theft has been produced so far. At the time of this writing the dev team has issued a new wallet that actually hard forks the VRC blockchain and leaves the theft/hack as if it never happened, rolling back the transactions to moments before it is supposed to have happened.

It appears that for unexplained -so far- reasons, MintPal kept the 8 million VRC -a quarter of the entire VRC in existence, roughly- in a "hot wallet", instead of a "cold" one as they are supposed to do. Nobody has confirmed or denied it but, other than for staking purposes, it is hard to imagine what other reasons would exist for such unnecessary and risky behavior that greatly facilitated the hack/theft if it indeed happened.

Apparently only some $4,000 worth of transactions had happened between the hack/theft and the discovery and subsequent freezing of the receiving wallets 8 million coins so the very limited options left to the developers of VRC were really one alone, as explained here by one of the developers: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/vericoin-developer-speaks-ccn-mintpal-hardfork/2014/07/15

The subsequent controversy has gone viral, of course, with all kinds of opinions and predictions raging on with the huge support of the VRC community for their devs' decision and some self-called "purists" condemning to the extent of extreme personal rage, such decision.

I have posted on the VRC thead, several times, that I find their decision both appropriate giving the circumstances, and unavoidable, forced, in fact. And I support it because the damage would have been fatal for VRC and MintPal (this second thing, not a negative one at all) and, perhaps more importantly, the damage to crypto in general and the many traders who have funds at MintPal, would have been enormous.

That said -again- I do find preposterous that MintPal is getting scot free from this censurable, terrible, impossible to justify whole shebang. The exchange is fully responsible and bound to warrant the safety of it's customers deposits. It is SHAMEFUL that they were put at risk for whatever -or none at all- reason, much less if it was for the purpose of benefit from staking, a benefit that they would not give back to the owners of the coins. They will pay for the minimal damages some have suffered as a consequence of the "hack/theft" and back to business as usual... Quite unfair -and shameful- indeed.

Costly in time as it would have been, I believe the normal course of action should have been to freeze the stolen coins, the banning of the two wallets which contained them forever and that MintPal would have been forced to pay the owners for the stolen coins. It was their fault, completely, so they should be responsible for the restitution... at least. Of course, that would have bankrupted Mintpal and the traders/investors would have been left dry, so those traders/investors are the second winners in the fiasco... some say unfairly for it is their responsibility to deposit their funds on exchanges that hold them secure... or risk the consequences. A valid argument, indeed. One that would have resulted, in fact, with the numbers of total VRC reduced by 8 million and, theoretically, a 20%+ increase in price of the remaining coins (and a 20% richer dev team, lets not forget that).

The good guys that the trio of devs of VRC are, opted (were forced) to take the only alternative that preserved the coin AND the the investors/traders who owned those 8 million VRC. The other two options were deemed unacceptable. I believe it was a good decision. But it was one that in actuality saved MintPal at no cost and for no benefit. And that is unfair. Mintpal's behavior, once again, was shameful. They should be accountable for it. And, as it is, I hope that most people who have funds deposited there move them to safer environments and that Mintpal actually dies a quick death for, besides the crooks, they are the bad guys here.

One more note and a couple troubling questions: MintPal must show unquestionable proof that the "hack/theft" indeed happened and that this is not an inside job... it should have made public that evidence long ago, actually, but it seems the shameful behavior of that exchange goes way farther than just the negligence that caused the supposed "hack/theft".

And the questions: We know that on July 6 a single wallet -that I am convinced is controlled by the Black Hand- had 4.5 million VRC. I also believe that is why the well known Black Hand operative, "Mr. You soy Boricua Pa que Tu lo Sepas" is "generously" supporting VRC to the point of writing "five figures ($) checks" without asking anything in return, promising promotions of mass media proportions and imminent red-carpet events with world celebrities attending. There's no other logical explanation... the question is: Was any of those 8 million VRC "stolen" owned or controlled by the Black Hand and the hand (no pun intended) of the devs was somehow forced even more by that circumstance? I guess we'll be forced to speculate on that one from  now on...

For now at least, the SHAME will fall squarely on the obvious culprit -apart from the hacker if one or more did indeed do this-. But the full truth may have several other implications.

The other obvious question: Why was only the VRC wallet attacked? One would assume that if they had the VRCs on a hot wallet, whatever the purpose or reason for it, they would also have other coins in hot wallets too? Why, again, VRC and ONLY VRC?
 

[XbladeX]

MINTPAL:SHAMEFUL

...
Apparently only some $4,000 worth of transactions had happened between the hack/theft and the discovery and subsequent freezing of the receiving wallets 8 million coins so the very limited options left to the developers of VRC were really one alone, as explained here by one of the developers: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/vericoin-developer-speaks-ccn-mintpal-hardfork/2014/07/15
...

But they rollback ALL transactions after thief not just theft money that they wrote on forum that wrote Mintpal
they warned on forum to not send coins...
Do you belive that all people are sitting on bittalk and looking for dev news 24/7.
here how can number transactions on network not all people are on bittalk mintpal.




At the end VRC broke rule that transactions are irreversible look how POW coin community are winners
because of that VRC wanted save 8m and to not let them dump.
here is 1st better example how POW coins are winners here...
that behaviour shows ignorance of LONG therm consequences of that choice
http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/2apsj7/litecoin_developers_will_never_fork_litecoin_to/ciycbhd

LTC BTC community is laughing hard from people who kept 1/3 of all coins in one place just in case to dump it on time...

http://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-vericoin-addresses.html 25% of all VRC still in mintpal wallets not many in real are interested to
take out coins from there... this clearly show how whole 51% attack excuse was pathetic and how many people look what devs/exchange are writing.
All here is about getting rich in no time.

Here you have a bit news how many people IN POS are activly support their networks...
http://bitinfocharts.com/pl/comparison/nodes-ppc-bc-xc-vrc-nvc.html

[barabbas]

ARCOIN

This one came up 5 days ago. It isn't even worth it to discuss the "features" for it is a typical coin of the ones that come out at still increasingly rate every day. Nothing technicaly different or appealing from the many similar -and superior- already established. But, of course, it has a gimmick: a POS (proof of stake... the other meaning will become apparently soon enough) with a max 1 million coins. 500,000 to start and, presumably, the same amount to support the 5% interest the skating will bring you annually... until the 500,000 is reached. After that... well, who's even thinking here even to the day after tomorrow... it's only the idea of "the (proverbial) long haul" to sell those who don't know better, how to part quickly with their money.

OK, besides the gimmick, this coin has a dev who no one knows and who is anonymous. Since Vericoin and PinkCoin, why on Earth would you invest your hard earned money in a coin of whose developer/s you know absolutely nothing about, when you have those two excellent alternatives -and many others-? Well of course it IS your money and you are free to throw it away any which way you choose but it is the duty of this wall to make you and everyone aware of what's out there. And this is simply shameful.

But it's not only that: Would you open a restaurant with just a few dishes, barely a place to si and full of crap -and shit- all around? Of course not. No one would come in. Not to mention that you wouldn't get a license if you didn't have everything at the ready, spotless, fully inspected and fully working... ah but this is crypto, the land of the crooks, so you can open your restaurant (coin) even if you don't have an IRC channel, not even a website... nothing. Hey, you are in for the "long haul" but in a hurry beyond belief so, since you can, you just open the doors and voila...

The voila is that the coin, initially bought by not the smartest guys in crypto up to over 75k sat, is trading now under 5k, roughly 95% from those initial highs. And with a market cap of less than 30 BTC, you can count this one as gone for all intents and purposes. As a MATTER OF FACT COINS WITH A VERY REDUCED FLOAT, ARE ALL gone or semi-gone, from 42 to 365 and every other one using that same gimmick in between.

This one, as you can corroborate reading their ANN thread, also sports accusations of pre-mine or hidden mine... which the fall in price has made totally irrelevant. True or not, this is not even close to be ready for market and should and will quickly disappear.

OK, after you resist the temptation of "buying low" here, get a look at the new standards: Devs have to be identifiable, with real names and bios out. There's only one valid reason for devs to want to remain anonymous: Not clean intentions. Pure and simple. All the rest of excuses are rubbish. Discard thgem and invest in people who have an identity and a place where they can be reached... as well as some tech -or otherwise- credentials. If the dev cannot offer at the very least this, you simply should not give them your money. Pretty simple. Devs also must be 100% transparent. To the point to let everyone know how much % of the coin they own. This is, BY LAW, obligatory in the real world. BY LAW. Why would you not let know everyone how much of your coin you own? Only one reason: You want to be free to dump it without public scrutiny. NOT ACCEPTABLE. Not anymore. DO NOT accept it. Period.

And finally, if you don't even have an IRC channel and a decent looking website, for god's sake don't even think on launching a new coin. It's SHAMEFUL.

[arcoins]

ARCOIN

This one came up 5 days ago. It isn't even worth it to discuss the "features" for it is a typical coin of the ones that come out at still increasingly rate every day. Nothing technicaly different or appealing from the many similar -and superior- already established. But, of course, it has a gimmick: a POS (proof of stake... the other meaning will become apparently soon enough) with a max 1 million coins. 500,000 to start and, presumably, the same amount to support the 5% interest the skating will bring you annually... until the 500,000 is reached. After that... well, who's even thinking here even to the day after tomorrow... it's only the idea of "the (proverbial) long haul" to sell those who don't know better, how to part quickly with their money.

OK, besides the gimmick, this coin has a dev who no one knows and who is anonymous. Since Vericoin and PinkCoin, why on Earth would you invest your hard earned money in a coin of whose developer/s you know absolutely nothing about, when you have those two excellent alternatives -and many others-? Well of course it IS your money and you are free to throw it away any which way you choose but it is the duty of this wall to make you and everyone aware of what's out there. And this is simply shameful.

But it's not only that: Would you open a restaurant with just a few dishes, barely a place to si and full of crap -and shit- all around? Of course not. No one would come in. Not to mention that you wouldn't get a license if you didn't have everything at the ready, spotless, fully inspected and fully working... ah but this is crypto, the land of the crooks, so you can open your restaurant (coin) even if you don't have an IRC channel, not even a website... nothing. Hey, you are in for the "long haul" but in a hurry beyond belief so, since you can, you just open the doors and voila...

The voila is that the coin, initially bought by not the smartest guys in crypto up to over 75k sat, is trading now under 5k, roughly 95% from those initial highs. And with a market cap of less than 30 BTC, you can count this one as gone for all intents and purposes. As a MATTER OF FACT COINS WITH A VERY REDUCED FLOAT, ARE ALL gone or semi-gone, from 42 to 365 and every other one using that same gimmick in between.

This one, as you can corroborate reading their ANN thread, also sports accusations of pre-mine or hidden mine... which the fall in price has made totally irrelevant. True or not, this is not even close to be ready for market and should and will quickly disappear.

OK, after you resist the temptation of "buying low" here, get a look at the new standards: Devs have to be identifiable, with real names and bios out. There's only one valid reason for devs to want to remain anonymous: Not clean intentions. Pure and simple. All the rest of excuses are rubbish. Discard thgem and invest in people who have an identity and a place where they can be reached... as well as some tech -or otherwise- credentials. If the dev cannot offer at the very least this, you simply should not give them your money. Pretty simple. Devs also must be 100% transparent. To the point to let everyone know how much % of the coin they own. This is, BY LAW, obligatory in the real world. BY LAW. Why would you not let know everyone how much of your coin you own? Only one reason: You want to be free to dump it without public scrutiny. NOT ACCEPTABLE. Not anymore. DO NOT accept it. Period.

And finally, if you don't even have an IRC channel and a decent looking website, for god's sake don't even think on launching a new coin. It's SHAMEFUL.

Wow I'm amazed with the amount of energies you spent to talk all of that.

Still you forgot to mention TOR which is implemented from start.

Also keep in mind that the father of this industry is anonymous

And finally we already have IRC, so you should have missed something:

IRC

http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#ARcoin
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/#ARcoin

And we are working on a website, Web Wallet and Android Wallet.

So your post is SHAMEFUL.

[barabbas]

TOR is a network. Available to anyone. And I DID mention that arcoin is similar to many others already established.

I did not err or forgot, you did NOT have an IRC channel at the time of the writing. Now, way too late for any hope, you do. Now what you don't even seem to have anymore is and ANN here on BitcoinTalk, where the references to a possible scammy pre-mine were posted... RED FLAG.

As for the "father" of bitcoin being anonymous, that was 5 full years ago. The world has changed significantly. The bar in crypto world has been notoriously raised. Sorry, but you are not up to par and, consequently, about to be extinct.

Think of another scheme, I'm sure you will come back. Hopefully after learning your lesson and having all the basic requirements fulfilled.

And, if you want any hope of success, with your real name and bio on the line.

[arcoins]

TOR is a network. Available to anyone. And I DID mention that arcoin is similar to many others already established.

I did not err or forgot, you did NOT have an IRC channel at the time of the writing. Now, way too late for any hope, you do.

As for the "father" of bitcoin being anonymous, that was 5 full years ago. The world has changed significantly. The bar in crypto world has been notoriously raised. Sorry, but you are not up to par and, consequently, about to be extinct.

Think of another scheme, I'm sure you will come back. Hopefully after learning your lesson and having all the basic requirements fulfilled.

And, if you want any hope of success, for your real name and bio on the line.

But who do you think you are?

I ask you, WHO ARE YOU? Give me your name and Bio.

Be careful my friend, you may swallow all your words very soon. We are not sleeping and we have many plans.

[barabbas]

TOR is a network. Available to anyone. And I DID mention that arcoin is similar to many others already established.

I did not err or forgot, you did NOT have an IRC channel at the time of the writing. Now, way too late for any hope, you do.

As for the "father" of bitcoin being anonymous, that was 5 full years ago. The world has changed significantly. The bar in crypto world has been notoriously raised. Sorry, but you are not up to par and, consequently, about to be extinct.

Think of another scheme, I'm sure you will come back. Hopefully after learning your lesson and having all the basic requirements fulfilled.

And, if you want any hope of success, for your real name and bio on the line.

But who do you think you are?

I ask you, WHO ARE YOU? Give me your name and Bio.

Be careful my friend, you may swallow all your words very soon. We are not sleeping and we have many plans.

I am someone who has taken upon himself the task of uncovering, as soon as possible, schemes and scams to get innocent people out of their money. Like Arcoin. I am not selling anything not expecting or accepting any donations. You, on the other hand, "launched" a coin, which may or may not be a scam, without even the most basic minimal standard requirements. And your goal, like any business, is to get the money of the people straight to your pocket. That has worked fine in the past but you are several months behind and will -hopefully- not work anymore.

I am quite careful and, most definitely, not your friend. But I would be more than happy to "swallow all my words" (well, almost all) if you are able to turn this train wreck around. But you would excuse me if I don't give you the benefit of the doubt. For that, I would need to know who you are and what you are capable of achieving in the world of tech/crypto... none of which seems to be in your "to do" list. 

[arcoins]

TOR is a network. Available to anyone. And I DID mention that arcoin is similar to many others already established.

I did not err or forgot, you did NOT have an IRC channel at the time of the writing. Now, way too late for any hope, you do.

As for the "father" of bitcoin being anonymous, that was 5 full years ago. The world has changed significantly. The bar in crypto world has been notoriously raised. Sorry, but you are not up to par and, consequently, about to be extinct.

Think of another scheme, I'm sure you will come back. Hopefully after learning your lesson and having all the basic requirements fulfilled.

And, if you want any hope of success, for your real name and bio on the line.

But who do you think you are?

I ask you, WHO ARE YOU? Give me your name and Bio.

Be careful my friend, you may swallow all your words very soon. We are not sleeping and we have many plans.

I am someone who has taken upon himself the task of uncovering, as soon as possible, schemes and scams to get innocent people out of their money. Like Arcoin. I am not selling anything not expecting or accepting any donations. You, on the other hand, "launched" a coin, which may or may not be a scam, without even the most basic minimal standard requirements. And your goal, like any business, is to get the money of the people straight to your pocket. That has worked fine in the past but you are several months behind and will -hopefully- not work anymore.

I am quite careful and, most definitely, not your friend. But I would be more than happy to "swallow all my words" (well, almost all) if you are able to turn this train wreck around. But you would excuse me if I don't give you the benefit of the doubt. For that, I would need to know who you are and what you are capable of achieving in the world of tech/crypto... none of which seems to be in your "to do" list. 

"I am someone who has taken upon himself the task of uncovering" Sorry, that's not enough, Who are you? Whats your name and your Bio?

You know how many people talk lies on this forum? So, I need to know who you are for your "information" to be relevant to me, and to all of us.

So, you are so smart, that by your logic, if anyone reveals himself, that's where you put your money in? You know how many scams are in the Stock Market, including the penny stock Market, where all the CEOs info is public?

I don't know if you know, but AuroraCoin dev was a public person, all details were available. You know how many people lost money there?

You may have all your owns opinions, but please, a little bit of respect, when you don't even know with who you are talking to.

[barabbas]

TOR is a network. Available to anyone. And I DID mention that arcoin is similar to many others already established.

I did not err or forgot, you did NOT have an IRC channel at the time of the writing. Now, way too late for any hope, you do.

As for the "father" of bitcoin being anonymous, that was 5 full years ago. The world has changed significantly. The bar in crypto world has been notoriously raised. Sorry, but you are not up to par and, consequently, about to be extinct.

Think of another scheme, I'm sure you will come back. Hopefully after learning your lesson and having all the basic requirements fulfilled.

And, if you want any hope of success, for your real name and bio on the line.

But who do you think you are?

I ask you, WHO ARE YOU? Give me your name and Bio.

Be careful my friend, you may swallow all your words very soon. We are not sleeping and we have many plans.

I am someone who has taken upon himself the task of uncovering, as soon as possible, schemes and scams to get innocent people out of their money. Like Arcoin. I am not selling anything not expecting or accepting any donations. You, on the other hand, "launched" a coin, which may or may not be a scam, without even the most basic minimal standard requirements. And your goal, like any business, is to get the money of the people straight to your pocket. That has worked fine in the past but you are several months behind and will -hopefully- not work anymore.

I am quite careful and, most definitely, not your friend. But I would be more than happy to "swallow all my words" (well, almost all) if you are able to turn this train wreck around. But you would excuse me if I don't give you the benefit of the doubt. For that, I would need to know who you are and what you are capable of achieving in the world of tech/crypto... none of which seems to be in your "to do" list.  

"I am someone who has taken upon himself the task of uncovering" Sorry, that's not enough, Who are you? Whats your name and your Bio?

You know how many people talk lies on this forum? So, I need to know who you are for your "information" to be relevant to me, and to all of us.

So, you are so smart, that by your logic, if anyone reveals himself, that's where you put your money in? You know how many scams are in the Stock Market, including the penny stock Market, where all the CEOs info is public?

I don't know if you know, but AuroraCoin dev was a public person, all details were available. You know how many people lost money there?

You may have all your owns opinions, but please, a little bit of respect, when you don't even know with who you are talking to.

At this point, I am doubting if you are about 15 tops or just mentally handicapped, sorry. I will repeat one last time: I am not selling anything nor requesting or accepting donations. You are.

I am reasonably smart yes, and if anyone reveals himself and by doing this exhibits a bio with a reputation or promise, I may buy what he's selling... definitely much more so that from some handle on a crypto forum just registered. I am fully aware of the scams in the stock market and, of course, I also have seen "The Wolf of Wall Street" -which you seem to even have missed-. I also have vast experience in that field. Even if I wouldn't, CEO's who scam, are prosecuted by the law and held accountable.

Losing money in crypto -or any investment- is not only possible, even under the best of circumstances, but inevitable in some instances. Precisely that is one of the main reasons why this wall was created, to light the red lights of cases like you and Arcoin and save some people money.

Respect is a dear -and dire- commodity in crypto and the internet in general. It is never given away... and for good reason: It is EARNED through deeds and reputation, neither of which applies to a newbie handle. I do know who I am talking to: A newbie handle trying to sell people some air, about to disappear only to resurface in no time with another scam coin. If you are somebody else, you will have to show it and if that someone is deserving of respect, it will be given generously. I'm willing to bet money for donuts that you will choose to leave the crypto community without that privilege.

And with that, I will cease to entertain you. But the Wall will remain so you can continue posting your nonsense in total freedom and with the guarantee that it will not be censored (by me at least, I cannot know what Bitcoin Talk will do, but they haven't touched anything on any of my walls yet). So up to you.

[mountainview]

Excellent thread, need more like this to expose the shitcoins like blackcoin and cloakcoin!

[arcoins]

TOR is a network. Available to anyone. And I DID mention that arcoin is similar to many others already established.

I did not err or forgot, you did NOT have an IRC channel at the time of the writing. Now, way too late for any hope, you do.

As for the "father" of bitcoin being anonymous, that was 5 full years ago. The world has changed significantly. The bar in crypto world has been notoriously raised. Sorry, but you are not up to par and, consequently, about to be extinct.

Think of another scheme, I'm sure you will come back. Hopefully after learning your lesson and having all the basic requirements fulfilled.

And, if you want any hope of success, for your real name and bio on the line.

But who do you think you are?

I ask you, WHO ARE YOU? Give me your name and Bio.

Be careful my friend, you may swallow all your words very soon. We are not sleeping and we have many plans.

I am someone who has taken upon himself the task of uncovering, as soon as possible, schemes and scams to get innocent people out of their money. Like Arcoin. I am not selling anything not expecting or accepting any donations. You, on the other hand, "launched" a coin, which may or may not be a scam, without even the most basic minimal standard requirements. And your goal, like any business, is to get the money of the people straight to your pocket. That has worked fine in the past but you are several months behind and will -hopefully- not work anymore.

I am quite careful and, most definitely, not your friend. But I would be more than happy to "swallow all my words" (well, almost all) if you are able to turn this train wreck around. But you would excuse me if I don't give you the benefit of the doubt. For that, I would need to know who you are and what you are capable of achieving in the world of tech/crypto... none of which seems to be in your "to do" list.  

"I am someone who has taken upon himself the task of uncovering" Sorry, that's not enough, Who are you? Whats your name and your Bio?

You know how many people talk lies on this forum? So, I need to know who you are for your "information" to be relevant to me, and to all of us.

So, you are so smart, that by your logic, if anyone reveals himself, that's where you put your money in? You know how many scams are in the Stock Market, including the penny stock Market, where all the CEOs info is public?

I don't know if you know, but AuroraCoin dev was a public person, all details were available. You know how many people lost money there?

You may have all your owns opinions, but please, a little bit of respect, when you don't even know with who you are talking to.

At this point, I am doubting if you are about 15 tops or just mentally handicapped, sorry. I will repeat one last time: I am not selling anything nor requesting or accepting donations. You are.

I am reasonably smart yes, and if anyone reveals himself and by doing this exhibits a bio with a reputation or promise, I may buy what he's selling... definitely much more so that from some handle on a crypto forum just registered. I am fully aware of the scams in the stock market and, of course, I also have seen "The Wolf of Wall Street" -which you seem to even have missed-. I also have vast experience in that field. Even if I wouldn't, CEO's who scam, are prosecuted by the law and held accountable.

Losing money in crypto -or any investment- is not only possible, even under the best of circumstances, but inevitable in some instances. Precisely that is one of the main reasons why this wall was created, to light the red lights of cases like you and Arcoin and save some people money.

Respect is a dear -and dire- commodity in crypto and the internet in general. It is never given away... and for good reason: It is EARNED through deeds and reputation, neither of which applies to a newbie handle. I do know who I am talking to: A newbie handle trying to sell people some air, about to disappear only to resurface in no time with another scam coin. If you are somebody else, you will have to show it and if that someone is deserving of respect, it will be given generously. I'm willing to bet money for donuts that you will choose to leave the crypto community without that privilege.

And with that, I will cease to entertain you. But the Wall will remain so you can continue posting your nonsense in total freedom and with the guarantee that it will not be censored (by me at least, I cannot know what Bitcoin Talk will do, but they haven't touched anything on any of my walls yet). So up to you.

You know that defamation is a crime as well? So, identify yourself please before making accusations, how about that?

I don't understand why all that text just to avoid the question of "Who are you? Whats your name and bio?"

Not so smart after all.

[barabbas]

PESACOIN

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At a time when transparency, accountability, responsibility and professionalism are taking flight finally and coins like Vericoin, Pinkcoin and many, many others raise the bar on standards every day, this PESA project has to be the dumbest in history. This is like one kid with a second hand mac having the great idea of go to kickstarter and ask for funds to launch a coin that will never even remotely be up to par with current technologies, will be instead a copy of 800 others or more, and has not even a remote chance in hell to make it beyond one week. The fact that some miners are actually mining it is both flabbergasting and corroboration that blind stupidity will indeed remain in crypto for quite a while in spite of the ever more secure and promising offers already available.

Obviously the dumping not only is of majestic proportions, anyone with even a very small level of understanding knows that ANY price at all on this train wreck wanting to happen, is way more than double what it eventually will be worth... within days.

Why bother with coming out with a real name and a bio, a decent website, with some semblance of a roadmap, with some kind or nebulous idea of what could possibly justify this coin's existence? No need! People is so blinded by greed and stupidity that they will rent rigs to mine it and spend actual BTC in buying hoping for a quick buck if someone is even more stupid to buy from them.

Oh well, there are certain things that are simply, seemingly, inevitable.

SHAME.

[XbladeX]

Excellent thread, need more like this to expose the shitcoins like blackcoin and cloakcoin!

Told guy who wrote... ( like Super coin was not another copy paste BC code with some improvements... )
And man without Blackcoin it won't be your Supercoin,Vericoin,Pink coin and 100+ other coins...
show some respect... ( i as BC holder respect PPC very much without it it wont be BC Nova HBN FTC too... )

SUPER to da moon!

I agree dev team needs to do more promotions, many people don't understand how good the SuperCoin is!

I see many unique or near unique features from Supercoin:

- Easy to use, superfast Supersend anonymous feature
- Superfast transaction time (each transaction confirmed within less than 1 min)
- Superblock for PoS

supercointeam, you need to do more promo and make people know these advantages, it is SUPER!

PESACOIN

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At a time when transparency, accountability, responsibility and professionalism are coins like Vericoin, Pinkcoin ...

Like any coin is PERFECT...  and all your coins are perfect...

write bullshit without serious evidence maybe some idiots will believe it...
And tell my coins are best... !

barabbas if someone will sue you for false accusations you can not provide any evidence in 90% cases - in court...

[barabbas]

Hey fanboy, the courts are open to anyone so feel free...

The court of the markets though is giving you quite an appreciation of your "religion", so perhaps you should listen to it.

Or not.

But get this once and forever: The time of the scams like Blackcoin, is up and up for good. And yes, there are a bunch (and growing) good coins like Vericon and Pinkcoin. And yes those tend to be "my" coins (I trade) because they are transparent, honest, assume responsibilities and act professional. No "inside jobs", like in Blackcoin, where the official pool is owned fully by two of the developers. And that, as everyone interested knows, is just the tip of a huge iceberg... that, by now, has even melted because, guess what, blackcoin is not even good to steal from its fanboys like you.

But, nice fanboy that you are, you will continue seeing your value dwindle in the slow death so foretold. It's your prerogative. But no amount of hating for other coins run by good guys will change that well deserved fate. Have a nice life.

[barabbas]

THE ANON MARKETS

For a while now there's been a trend in crypto to create "markets". The latest trend, worth millions in ephemeral daytrading gains, has been the "anon" features promised by practically all the new coins and led by the likes of Darkcoin, Cloakcoin, Shieldcoin and many others. Now, the next step -that was initiated and provided -the platform- by NEXT Coin precisely many months ago, is the so-called decentralized "markets". Those would be the places where you can buy, anonymously, all kinds of goods and services, from anonymous providers on an anonymous platform... obviously the things that you can buy there are not available at your regular Walmart. Or Ebay. And, obviously, you would have to trust, if you are a buyer, an anonymous seller somewhere fronting up you moolah and hoping to receive your purchased items at you anonymous (or not) address. Quite a tall order, right? Oh well, there's some kind of "Trust system" implicated, kind of your reputation as a seller -like in Ebay-, I take, that would ease the pain: Say a drug dealer in Uganda has built a reputation on the anon market for delivering high quality goods, you can trust he would send you the dust and not sugar... Oh, but you have also anon services, such as "arbitration" or "Escrow" where you can avoid having to trust the Ugandan guy selling you, and delivering, the forbidden "medicine" in your particular country. So, instead of having to trust the Ugandan, you will have to trust the anonymous Escrow guy, whoever or wherever he/she/it may be. The "arbitration" 'feature' eludes me completely, of course... but who is counting, really. It's all bullshit, clearly.

Or, as someone pointed out to me, it's like Silk Road 0.2 (you know the underground market seized by the FBI?). So the "selling point" here is that these anonymous markets will be so sophisticated that law enforcement won't be able to seize and close them. And, if they do, who cares because they won'ty be able to trace you as a vendor or customer so you can jump to the next one and continue you merry "trading" free as a bird.

I find the whole thing to be just hot air and, most definitely, several steps backwards toward the supposedly main objective of crypto currencies, which is to reach mainstream, but what do I know? People, investors/traders are paying a lot of money for promises of this kind of stuff, so there's money in it, no doubt. On the promises, mind you. No chance in hell any of that crap will succeed in the real world but, for now, shameful as it is, there's money in it. And money is what everyone is after in crypto, isn't it?

[barabbas]

ELITE COIN

One more. Several every day. Same ol, same old: Hidden premine. Shame on the dev/s, shame on Bittrex for bringing it out but, above all, shame on the people that convinced themselves they were going to be smarter than the next guys and they will reap profits while leaving the next guys holding the bag. Too many examples to list... Nebula, ninja, sparta... and now elite.

Ok, there were -as always, ALWAYS, are, and enormous amount of red flags on all of these: Newbie account, unknown devs, self-moderated ANN thread, 5% "interest"... nothing new on the coin itself, just an obvious copy/paste hack job. The hook -incredibly "popular" these days-, PRETENDED SCARCITY. As if previous non-scam coins such as 365 or 42 or even the one with one single coin, have not demonstrated clearly enough that scarcity is just a gitzmo... that never, ever works. And yet, the blind greedy ones continue filing up like sheep with their BTC ready to give it to an anonymous handle with all these flags -and others- clearly pointing toward scam.

And, of course, when they realize they have been taken -again- they claim, shout and pretend that someone else is the guilty party... Of course the devs of these coins are crooks. Of course the policies of Bittrex suck big time. But you have, among many other resources across the net, this WALL and, above all, the most elementary common sense. If you are investing, obviously you are greedy. One doesn't exist without the other. So you are a target and an easy one, quite frankly. Before you lose it all, learn the first rule of investment: Preservation of capital. Always leave with resources to play another day. Never go all in. And, for heaven's sake, investing in alts is risky enough in itself, you don't ever need the added risk of giving money to absolute unknowns, with no legal name, who don't accept criticism and censor their threads and that offer an interest rate that would not be sustainable is the coin is to have a future. 5% is an unsustainable rate of inflation/interest if the coin is to last for years and years. It simply cannot work and will ultimately rtender itself worthless, on inflation alone.

I know this is like shouting in the desert. No one wants to hear. A couple would have lost everything, half a dozen will leave crypto altogether, 3 dozens will just go to the next shit/scam coin convinced they will get back all their loses in Elite in 24 hours. And the rest, well, they are that rare breed that only invested 20-30% of their total investment money and consider themselves very smart for it... while their nests continue dwindling to quickly join the couple cited in first place.

It is shameful. It is very sad. And it is inevitable.

Nevertheless, this wall will continue here hoping to serve new people coming into crypto to be careful out there and ONLY invest in projects who have KNOWN developers, with legal names and addresses quite clear, with bios that you can check, with proof -offered by the devs- that there's no hidden pre-mine, and with apparent and obvious honesty and transparency. And, of course, with BTC Talk threads that are not censored nor moderated. There are several such coin projects, usually they would be listed in the WALL OF HONOR, but there are some that are not because they fail some of the very strict requirements. Look for them. They are worth your investment, if you believe in the future of crypto currencies.

Stop sponsoring the crooks and the bad guys. You don't have to. You absolutely need not to. Simply do not.

[barabbas]

VOOT/SYNC

It is what usually happen when you give your money to unknowns... even if, in this case, the unknown has some kind of history in BitcoinTalk. The handle is "MsCollec", who may or may not be a woman and who is the main developer at both SYNC and VOOT. Why two coins? would be the immediate question anyone even average intelligent only would ask. And the ONLY answer that applies is, either another question (why not?) or a conclusion: Because you can, reason enough for more than half the absurdities in the world. In any case, both were a go and both were, briefly, considered somewhat successful if in the obvious infantry... ah the permanent lure of new coins to the blindly greedy who hope to make a quick killing jumping ion on the ground floor, especially if it through their mining rigs, owned or rented... It never fails. You could announce tomorrow Turdcoin, promise a 100% interest annually and you would have quite a bunch of those greedy miners, as well as many "investors", following you and mining for you and willing to give you money... even if you use the most ridiculously obvious handle to hide your true identity. It doesn't matter: Greed, blind, stupid, will make it a go 100 times out of one hundred.

in this particular case, Ms Collec "always deliver on his/her promises", you would read in their thread. One of those promises is the new fad "du jour": 'decentralized market'. Ms Collec is just an average to poor coder so he/she contracts out the things he/she promises. And, apparently, groups of coders out for hire will say yes to everything but not necessarily deliver what they are contracted to deliver. Whatever the situation, there was a delay in the delivery of the 'decentralized market' for Voot and Ms Collec tried to code it him/herself... only to be shouted at by the original coder because the Ms had "messed it up". Add to that the fact that Ms Collec was receiving the usual nasty PMs and tweets and he/she couldn't take and, in a very clumsy way, first announced she was quitting Voot altogether in Twitter and then, not much later, announced it was all a mistake and she was kind of not quitting... for the moment at least until a new lead developer was found.

Needless to say these series of circumstances, to call them something, sank the price of but all the way to 65 sat. Needless to say, A LOT of VOOT was sold above 1,000 sat just before the "mistake" of the tweet. Needless to say, although Voot has recovered a little since hitting 65 sat, the deluded bagholders have only managed to keep it around 600 sat.

For anyone with anything under their hair, Voot is done. No coming back from such SHAMEFUL behavior by Ms Collec... now, what is amazingly surpriseng is that these events have had a relative minimal -is around 30% can be considered "minimal"- effect in the price of SYNC. Remember, same individual is the lead developer there. Of course there are a whole bunch of deluded, incredibly greedy and totally blind "investors" there that have convinced themselves that the meltdown of Ms Collec -to not go too much deeper into what really happened- in Voot will have no effect on SYNC.

Yep. And sometimes when there's thunder and lightning, there's no rain in all of the surroundings... fact is neither Voot nor SYNC have ANY reason whatsoever to exist in the first place. Now they have a very solid common reason to disappear... quickly. And disappear, both will.

[barabbas]

PRO...

Last night I posted this in the CENSORED ANN thread of PROcoin:

I have to say the offer, by Darren Palmer, is "interesting".

This coin is not going nowhere near 2500 sat by Monday, that's quite obvious, so it is indeed quite "interesting" to watch this loser's gamble developing since the term is so brief.

Mind you, the 2500 sat is the price "some" -I bet not a lot- paid in the IPO/ICO, but in way over a month -pretty much time enough to determine the real potential of a new coin nowadays- PRO had not managed to go over 100 sat... until this gitzmo was presented with amazingly spectacular initial results.
At least 500 BTC have been traded at present count and the price exceeded 800 sat at one point, which means that a lot of people has bought small participation in this "lottery" that may or may not happen to be true.

I would imagine this post will be censored pretty quickly so, if it is, you would have to go to THE WALL OF SHAME to read it... meanwhile, a few considerations beyond the above stated:

-- Darren Palmer, the name behind this coin, is a total unknown in spite of his self-appointed title as CEO of Instantbitcoins.com. There's no recognizable linked-in profile of him, academic or otherwise employment history anywhere and, unless he is into interior decorating, he simply doesn't exist. Not an endorsement, precisely, for someone that, obviously, pursues and loves the limelight. Where have you been all these years, Darren Palmer? Who were you before you started selling bitcoins in the UK?

-- There's absolutely no point whatsoever in making an offer of 2500 sat "guaranteed buy back" with the coin trading under 200 sat. Any way you choose to examine the gitzmo, you will reach the same conclusion: It can only pursue the dumping of a significant amount of coins against the potential credulous people that will invest small amounts for the outside chance that the offer will end up being legitimate. A lot of those in crypto. And if Iconic Expert joins the fray, quite a few of his twitter followers will probably invest at least small amounts in it, regardless of the (lack of) credibility.

In conclusion, in you are piked by the offer, invest something you won't be seriously affected if it is quickly lost. Otherwise, proceed very, very cautiously.
And read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=649955.0. Extract your own conclusions. Mine, at the (minimal) risk of being wrong, is that you are going to be seriously disappointed by Monday.

We will definitely see very soon.

And seen we have indeed, soon enough -only a few hours later- that the post has indeed been censored, that it PROCOIN is, indeed, a scam, that the "guarantee" was the gimmick it was obvious it was and that, once again, a crook has run away with the money of the blind/greedy, idiots and naive people of crypto. SHAMEFUL, indeed. SHAMEFUL, also, that IconicExpert has participated in the scam, whether fully knowingly or not it doesn't matter: His credibility -the part that had not been (unfairly so) tarnished yet, has been fully destroyed now. His "followers" will do very good avoiding his picks (there's a new one announced for Tuesday, and I am already warning you: BE FULLY AWARE: When you buy in, he will already be selling out, fully knowing he's picking yet another scam coin. IE, apparently, has gone way farther into the precipice now. He doesn't care who gets hurt, he will continue peddling coins while there's something to get... at the expense of the naive/idiotic/blind-greedy. If you want to preserve your investment, STAY AWAY from his picks. All, every single one of them. There's no excuse whatsoever to fall for it one single more time: His is NOT after making money; he is after your money.

As for that crook, Darren Palmer, he's done, of course. I doubt anyone will ever buy a single BTC from him. But he will continue being around under different names... including Darren Palmer which more than probably, is nothing but yet another alias or handle. Good riddance and fuck you, by the way.

A word -again- of warning: There's a very solid reason why some good coins are not listed in my WALL OF HONOR, even though they comply with almost all the requirements: There are several (Vericoin, Solarcoin, others...) that simply CENSOR either their ANN threads here, or their IRC -this is widespread, unfortunately- or their Reddit. Once again: There's only one reason, in spite of all the FUD bullshit they post as an excuse, only one to have a so called "self-moderated" venue, whichever it is: To silence discrepancy. NONE OTHER.

"Palmer" has even closed the ANN thread, so people will not flock it with the well deserved insults, threats and other showings of anger and desperation. In this case, there's no feeling towards those who chose to fall for the obvious scam, not one bit. They were advised -by me- against it thoroughly. They shouldn't complain. But that doesn't make the whole thing, and their perpetrators, "Palmer" and "IE" -nor the censorship- less SHAMEFUL.

[XbladeX]

PRO...

...There are several (Vericoin, Solarcoin, others...) that simply CENSOR either their ANN threads here, or their IRC -this is widespread, unfortunately- or their Reddit. Once again: There's only one reason, in spite of all the FUD bullshit they post as an excuse, only one to have a so called "self-moderated" venue, whichever it is: To silence discrepancy. NONE OTHER.
...

As Dagger from Cloack coin said:

"If you want to see for yourself the kind of posts that get deleted I think https://bitcointa.lk/ keeps a delayed log of everything.
Nothing to hide.
Just keeping thread clean rather than unfounded trash talk."

You can easy see what is deleted what not... Usually BS  talks is deleted... Before investing into coin with moderated tread is good to look https://bitcointa.lk and see what is deleted.
Most obvious scams like: EDGE WC AC USB they didn't have self moderated threads...

[barabbas]

I already answered this nonsense, I don't know what happened to the post...

No, there's only one reason to censor post, I have repeated it several times and it is proven, daily -including in Cloakcoin's thread, for there are NO exceptions-, and that is to avoid having to answer difficult questions -at best- or QUITE FOUNDED -usually- charges of scamming. NO OTHER REASON WHATSOEVER, no matter how many times they want to use the FUD excuse or the "cleaning up the thread..." one. It is just Bullshit. They just want to avoid criticism AND, more importantly, maintain whatever smoke screen that can hold, no matter how scammy or artificial, the price higher in the exchanges... so they can line up their pockets at the expense of the naive, blind/greedy or simply stupid.

No shortage of either, unfortunately, in crypto.

Nor of idiots that actually support these crooks, evidently.

[some138]

Excellent thread, need more like this to expose the shitcoins like blackcoin and cloakcoin!

Told guy who wrote... ( like Super coin was not another copy paste BC code with some improvements... )
And man without Blackcoin it won't be your Supercoin,Vericoin,Pink coin and 100+ other coins...
show some respect... ( i as BC holder respect PPC very much without it it wont be BC Nova HBN FTC too... )

You are dreaming right? Supercoin copied from BC?? Did you look at the codebase and see how much code look alike? I know BC is a plain copy of Mintcoin, it has a pretty bad codebase. Supercoin has many advanced tech, as a few examples:
- separation of pow/pos
- true randomness for superblocks
- pos superblocks
- anonymous feature (coinjoin)

among many others. Tell me, does BC have any of these? Or, does BC have anything new at all?

[meganite]

Do you think Iconic Expert belongs on this list, barabbas?

http://cdn.meme.li/instances/500x/53209548.jpg

[barabbas]

"Maganite" has to be a new kind of idiot, really...

And "purplejaguar", I already answered you I believe: "IconicExpert" is, repeatedly, in THE WALL OF SHAME: 1st, for not returning the donations from the BC people, just out of plain and simple laziness and second, and way more gravely, for his willful involvement -whether he was aware or not of the con it doesn't really matter... and at this point one has to believe that he was, fully- in the PRO scam. Just a couple of this nonsense posts above, you can read: But that doesn't make the whole thing, and their perpetrators, "Palmer" and "IE" -nor the censorship- less SHAMEFUL.

[bangomatic]

The most shameful here is Libertycoin dev, Templar77, what a complete waste as a human. I could rant for hrs about this crook, but just try to avoid any coin he is involved in because you will lose your investment.

[bangomatic]

Excellent thread, need more like this to expose the shitcoins like blackcoin and cloakcoin!

Cloakcoin is not a shitcoin. They have a team of brilliant developers that are delivering astounding features.

Blackcoin I totally agree on for all the reasons barabbas mentions here.

[tylerderden]

I hope you have moolah on your list

[barabbas]

XBOT

This "guys" (I believe there's only one using different handles) have come up with a nice -and apparently "working"- product: It's an iteration of a tip bot that allows for transactions between peers potentially on any social platform, currently available in Twitter. The potential is obvious so, naturally, the interest was notable... in the beginning. Now the price has halved a couple of times and it continues on a worrysome downward spiral. Why? Well, several RED FLAGS, of course:

RED FLAG # 1.- There's no transparency whatsoever. "Ladygaga" and "xbotdev" are both newbie accounts and probably the same individual, along with other handles. As stated many times elsewhere on this thread, there's only one reason, only one, for a developer to want to be anonymous: He has something to hide. Now, would you hide if you had the brilliant idea of building a platform to trade directly between users over the huge and growing social networks such as twitter, facebook, Instagram, Weibo? NOT unless you would have a VERY good reason for it. What could be the reason? There could be many, indeed. None of them of reassuring nature. What is perfectly clear, so far, is that whoever this "gaga" guy is, he cannot get anyone to trade on Xbotme on twitter. Mind you, interesting as the idea is, especially from a promotional, mass-market perspective, you still need the FOLLOWERS to market to. XBOT remains with less followers than a schoolgirl could achieve in a week's time. And mind you 2: You will have to trust (peculiar word in crypto) the centralized arbitration of a bot (or it's anonymous owner) should any trade go south... not the most enticing of propositions.

RED FLAG # 2.- They have a moderated BitcoinTalk forum. That in itself explains a lot. Again, you only eliminate freedom of expression when you don't want to face the music, otherwise, if you are legitimate, you encourage it.... Oh I know I know, the new "mantra" of the crooks is that a self-moderate forum weeds off FUD... that, as everyone knows, is pure and simple BULLSHIT. Oh but don't worry, we will only eliminate extremely offensive posts and blatant off topics.... Agaion: BULLSHIT.

Judge for yourselves the recent 2 posts eliminated:

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Please, someone step in. Someone, please provide me where POD has helped a coin beyond either a: initial launch or b: quick pump and dump. Please provide me evidence where POD has proven more successful than actual development. Please provide me evidence where POD has prevented shitcoins.

Bringing this shit up with something like XBOT is beyond stupid. There is the tech, a lot of work was put into a coin that actually works. Please tell me, how many LSD or conceal did you buy?

I could show you  several... for instance PINKCOIN. Or Vericoin, which will probably be part of the Supernet. Or Nautilus. And there are others.

Your second paragraph honors your namesake quite appropriately...
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Hey guys. I've just checked the blokexplorer and there is already 1,204,774 coins mined

So when we calculate 800 000 coins * 0.0001 = 80 BTC for all remaining coins that will be distributed over next 75 days.
It is only 1 BTC per day.
When all the week hands will finally panic sell all their coins, there will be not a lot coins for us to buy later :/

Without POD, you will have enough time to buy cheep coins even under IPO price, train moves that way, with weibo or without. I hope developers do understand it too. Time and rules has changed. No one will care about coin, even with great tech, if they don't know who the DEVs are.

Wild West is changing, if you don't want to change with it too, you will be left behind.

POD not going to happen, we'll never submit our id to any third party for verification. If you want to feel safe, invest in shadecoin. The developer did POD at launch and again he promised a lot of new features, only to disappeared afterwards and came back with lame excuses.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=371954;sa=showPosts

Cryptocurrency was created by anonymous developer and we understand that it's necessary for a business to have a public face but this will happen in near future through a PR team.

http://m.bbc.com/news/technology-29275904

PoD is NOT what that guy, cryptoasian or whatever, issues. Proof of Dev is coming out clear and show who you are. Full name and address. Just like any other business where millions in investor's money is at stake. And it is already a standard.

There's ONLY one reason why you would want to remain "gaga": You have something to hide. No ifs, no buts. If you are legitimate, why on earth wouldn't you want to take full credit for what you do? It is really that simple.

You obviously seem quite content with what you have done so far, even as the price continues halving again and again. I'm pretty sure it will continue unless something quite specific is done here. Some other poster says you have a "product working". It might very well be but that product is of no use or very limited use atm and by the time it reaches any consequence (you are actually able to trade some goods/services with it), there probably will be 100 similar "products" available ALL with developers and backers with names and addresses in full display.

But I am QUITE SURE you have your motives to hide...


Off-topic?

Anyway, the points are made. Here you get the lowdown the way it is.

Otherwise, the market signals towards it quite clearly too.

[fishy91]

Mind you, interesting as the idea is, especially from a promotional, mass-market perspective, you still need the FOLLOWERS to market to. XBOT remains with less followers than a schoolgirl could achieve in a week's time.

That makes it sound really dodgy. Why is nobody supporting it by following it?

[barabbas]

GNS

Wish I had more time because the amount of shitcoins invading the markets are amazingly increasing. Still. Case in point, GNS.

First of all the whole poinbt of this aberration is not even creating a coin but creating a front to sell a "bot". And what does that "bot" do? Theoretically, it will make you money -for a price, of course- by arbitraging. Confused about that? It works like this: While Bittrex may have, let's say Darkcoin offered at 0.00800. Cryptsy may have buyers offering 0.00805 for DRK. And Mintpal at 0.00803. And Cex-E at 0.00798. So this bot will buy for you the cheapest offered and sell it to the highest bidder automatically. Potentially, hundreds of times a day. Small gains, but no risk and multiplied by hundreds, boom: Money, big money.

Of course you need to have trading accounts on all those exchanges and the margins will only be significant if those accounts are rather significantly funded...

So the guy "Sevith", the "developer" wants to make a shitload of money selling this "bot". And that's why he copy/pasted his way into the new iteration of the utmost shitcoin: GNS.

This "Sevith" has gained, hands down, the title of the dumbest "developer" in crypto history, by miles. Guess what he did, within a couple of days of launch: He dumped 1 million coin, roughly 2/3rds of his entire premine of 7% (yes, you read correctly: 7% premine).

But I could not possibly describe the levels of dumbness exhibited here even remotely as well as his own very words on IRC. Please read them in this post and the one with transcript from IRC below it:

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=782154.msg8949904#msg8949904

One really has to see this to actually believe it. Wow!

[barabbas]

ROSCOIN

Fortunately, this one is DOA and cannot possibly have caused any real harm, no matter how naive the "investors".

It stinks of Carlos Ferguson and his co-conspirator LolJosh, so not much else to tell other than STAY AWAY AT ALL COSTS!!!

[Jax37]

GNS

Wish I had more time because the amount of shitcoins invading the markets are amazingly increasing. Still. Case in point, GNS.

First of all the whole poinbt of this aberration is not even creating a coin but creating a front to sell a "bot". And what does that "bot" do? Theoretically, it will make you money -for a price, of course- by arbitraging. Confused about that? It works like this: While Bittrex may have, let's say Darkcoin offered at 0.00800. Cryptsy may have buyers offering 0.00805 for DRK. And Mintpal at 0.00803. And Cex-E at 0.00798. So this bot will buy for you the cheapest offered and sell it to the highest bidder automatically. Potentially, hundreds of times a day. Small gains, but no risk and multiplied by hundreds, boom: Money, big money.

Of course you need to have trading accounts on all those exchanges and the margins will only be significant if those accounts are rather significantly funded...

So the guy "Sevith", the "developer" wants to make a shitload of money selling this "bot". And that's why he copy/pasted his way into the new iteration of the utmost shitcoin: GNS.

This "Sevith" has gained, hands down, the title of the dumbest "developer" in crypto history, by miles. Guess what he did, within a couple of days of launch: He dumped 1 million coin, roughly 2/3rds of his entire premine of 7% (yes, you read correctly: 7% premine).

But I could not possibly describe the levels of dumbness exhibited here even remotely as well as his own very words on IRC. Please read them in this post and the one with transcript from IRC below it:

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=782154.msg8949904#msg8949904

One really has to see this to actually believe it. Wow!

The coin is still active and has increased in price today. Your so against this coin it sounds like your trying to put bad light on it just to drive the price down. You belong on this wall of shame for trying to manipulate the market!

[barabbas]

GNS

Wish I had more time because the amount of shitcoins invading the markets are amazingly increasing. Still. Case in point, GNS.

First of all the whole poinbt of this aberration is not even creating a coin but creating a front to sell a "bot". And what does that "bot" do? Theoretically, it will make you money -for a price, of course- by arbitraging. Confused about that? It works like this: While Bittrex may have, let's say Darkcoin offered at 0.00800. Cryptsy may have buyers offering 0.00805 for DRK. And Mintpal at 0.00803. And Cex-E at 0.00798. So this bot will buy for you the cheapest offered and sell it to the highest bidder automatically. Potentially, hundreds of times a day. Small gains, but no risk and multiplied by hundreds, boom: Money, big money.

Of course you need to have trading accounts on all those exchanges and the margins will only be significant if those accounts are rather significantly funded...

So the guy "Sevith", the "developer" wants to make a shitload of money selling this "bot". And that's why he copy/pasted his way into the new iteration of the utmost shitcoin: GNS.

This "Sevith" has gained, hands down, the title of the dumbest "developer" in crypto history, by miles. Guess what he did, within a couple of days of launch: He dumped 1 million coin, roughly 2/3rds of his entire premine of 7% (yes, you read correctly: 7% premine).

But I could not possibly describe the levels of dumbness exhibited here even remotely as well as his own very words on IRC. Please read them in this post and the one with transcript from IRC below it:

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=782154.msg8949904#msg8949904

One really has to see this to actually believe it. Wow!

The coin is still active and has increased in price today. Your so against this coin it sounds like your trying to put bad light on it just to drive the price down. You belong on this wall of shame for trying to manipulate the market!

I could care less what the market does. I just post the realities. And, no matter how flair-full, reality seems to continuously surpass them. Latest example, that very smart developer just closed the unmoderated thread to start one fully censored in which he can post his bullshit without any critical voices. Need I say more?

As for price going higher, on volume of a few BTC, I don't know but maybe some P&D maybe shaping up? I just warn of what I clearly see, you prefer to bet on it? Be my guest!

But what am I saying?? You are THIS guys, Savith, under a new handle -of the confirmed several you are using-. Funny. Funny indeed.

I know you are not the sharpest knife in the kitchen but you DO know that people can check all of your 10 posts, don't you? Simply amazing...

[AFaQ]

lolwut none of what you just stated is confirmed at all whatsoever lmao make up more BTCullshit

[AFaQ]

yo barabas remeber when i got you a warning and almost got you banned for being psychotic and malicious? pretty sure you even got suspended...

[AFaQ]

Do you think Iconic Expert belongs on this list, barabbas?

[ahmedshawezi]

Good discussion.  POD is evolving to the needs of crypto.

[Jax37]

[YOUR ENTIRE POST HISTORY IS NOTHING BUT FUD HERE AND FUD THERE AND FUD EVERYWHERE.

You run other coins and your using this alt handle to down mouth everyone elses work, we get it okay?

[barabbas]

yo barabas remeber when i got you a warning and almost got you banned for being psychotic and malicious? pretty sure you even got suspended...

That'll be the day... dream much loser?

[ahmedshawezi]

It's amazing how many scams there have been this last month.

[travis72682]

Yeah coin is total dogshit... And the funny thing is that the whole concept is flawed...  Once you get numerous bots out there they are fighting over the arbitrage.. Your bot will end up buying to turn around to seel and someone elses bot will have beaten you to the sale... Its bogus until I hear that explained.. and the devs explanation of "everyone wont be doing the same coin at the same time. Only the coins moving fast have any real arbitrage to be had, and the bot does it all the time so.....

 

[crazytrain]

SHADOWCOIN /SHADOWCASH ARE SCAMMERS AND BANDITS . DO NOT BE FOOLED !

Shadowgang are bandits of the worst kind, the only thing that they do is to search trouble with all competing currencies ... beware !

The Shadowcoin dev (rynomster) is the head of the mafia, he uses bots to manipulate the price of other coins.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=818939.0




SHADOWCOIN TEAM


50% of this coin are in the hands of only two pump&dumpers:
Pookielax31 = Mr. Boh (twitter)
coolstoryteller = Trolls Royce
They use bots to manipulate prices of shadowcash and also to destroy new coins that will be competitors.

[barabbas]

HAL, XBOT, SEED...

It's impossible to keep track... simply too many.

To those that come here for guidance, I insist: If the project has a self-moderated thread non BitcoinTalk, please, please, run from it as fast as you can. The MATHEMATICAL possibilities of it being either an outright scam or a scam by way of total ineptitude by their devs are, again mathematically, like 99 to 1. Why assume the risk? There's no upside, believe me. None. If a project is legit, if a project is sound, no one will have any interest in a censored thread, especially their devs. Much like in the WALL OF SHAME, people is smart enough to distinguish from what's legit and what's just misinformation. Once again: The only reason for having a self-moderated thread is to have the ability to censor the posts that you don't like. Everyone will tell you that it is to avoid FUD and only for that reason but always, always, no exceptions, it is not the entire truth for it always ends up censoring posts whose contents the devs don't like. Especially those containing evidence of inconvenient activities. So, once again: If it is self-moderated, NO, THANKS!

And self-moderated are both HAL and XBOT, the latest -so to speak- "scams" -by way of ineptitude. Look how good has they had for being self-moderated. Devs held unaccountable for their arrogance and outright ineptitude. AND, -even bigger flag- anonymity. If the devs don't have a full name and full verifiable address, why would you want to invest in their projects? Simply DO NOT.

Mind you, having names and addresses, as well as non self-moderated thread will not insure you against scams, especially the ones due to ineptitude, such as PESA or, more recently, SEED, the fastest debacle ever in cryptoland in spite of having the promotion, sponsorship and support of the entire PinkCoin team...
which brings us to PinkCoin, which were, for a brief second, "the good guys"... Mind you that was before it was discovered that their charity attempts were just a facade for DUMPING and other shady activities such as off-market transactions with friends ("you scratch my back I'll scratch yours" is their mantra) and hush-hush selling (for the personal benefit of the devs) of tech developed for the coin. I have proven they have been dumping from the get go, back in May (go to their thread, which they will close soon enough to go the self-moderated way), to see the evidence which is all and has always been out there for everyone to see.

Once again: Stay clear of self-moderated threads that hide scam coins 99% of the time or more. Run, don't walk, from anonymous devs ALWAYS. You won't be fully protected in the hornet's nest of scammers that cryptoland is, but you will be more protected than most.

[barabbas]

I think you are Iconic Expert. Because he knows he's an evil turd and he needs a secondary mouthpiece to breathe his steady stream of horseshit onto the public from time to time.

Really, the dude is a complete jerkoff. I don't know how he gets off thinking he's smart when all he does is dirty his own surroundings for a living. And he has KIDS! First of all, nobody should be breeding with that mutant, he's a genetic experiment gone wrong. He really should have been a blowjob. Second of all, what kind of members of society do you think the children of IE will turn out to be, given the example their father is setting as their role model?

Just more shitlets, running around, deadset on making the world a shittier place to live in with their "precious" time on planet earth.

I understand IE is working on his own coin for what I read on Twitter...

Oh right, you choose to believe that I am him, in spite of the fact that I have only posted under this handle, for quite a long time now... Oh well, believe what you must, ok? Have a nice weekend.

[barabbas]

I understand IE is working on his own coin for what I read on Twitter...

Oh right, you choose to believe that I am him, in spite of the fact that I have only posted under this handle, for quite a long time now... Oh well, believe what you must, ok? Have a nice weekend.

So what? You've been posting for him for a long time now. So what's your take on IE then?

Is he a shit-eating scoundrel OR is he the source of all evil? I've narrowed it down to those 2 possibilities. What's your feelings on him?

edit: OK well your post statistics make it seem like you probably live on the west coast, I am guessing SoCal because you apparently can read Spanish. Whereas IE lives on the east coast, well until he gets transferred to a prison somewhere in the midwest.

If you already know the truth, why do you keep on posting shit that you know are lies? Oh well, whatever rocks your boat...

As for IE, I have posted right here on this wall what I think of what he did -or said he was doing- with the donations from BC community for the Wall Street event. That granted his inclusion in this wall of SHAME. And as usual, I extended myself quite a bit to express why and just how wrong I know what he did or said he would do was.

Other than that, I don't have enough knowledge of him to have a deeper opinion. The little that I know though, shows me he is way more intelligent that 99% of the rest of the people in crypto, so I'll follow with some interest the developments in his coin launch... which, by the way, couldn't possible have chosen a most adverse time.

[barabbas]

BYTECENT

I had already included IconicExpert in THE WALL OF SHAME for his very irregular -and explained in detail in this thread- involvement in the case of the BC community donations for a proposed Wall Street event that never took place.

Now, he and the coin he has developed, BYTECENT, "grace" this wall once again, not just deservedly but actually begging to be included with yet more deceiving, arbitrary activity that will be much better examined through my posts and those of others in the thread THE BYTECENT DISASTER: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855217.0

Welcome, again, to THE WALL OF SHAME, IE!

[djm34]

BYTECENT

I had already included IconicExpert in THE WALL OF SHAME for his very irregular -and explained in detail in this thread- involvement in the case of the BC community donations for a proposed Wall Street event that never took place.

and yet you bought into his IPO 

[barabbas]

BYTECENT

I had already included IconicExpert in THE WALL OF SHAME for his very irregular -and explained in detail in this thread- involvement in the case of the BC community donations for a proposed Wall Street event that never took place.

and yet you bought into his IPO  

Yes. As detailed at the time -and fully available here- I happen to believe that, while inexcusably clumsy, lazy and inconsiderate, his deception of the BC donors wasn't either a scam or a theft.

I bought, very modestly, into BYC IPO because I also believed it was a great idea with plenty of potential. To this point even, I choose to believe -at the risk of being possibly wrong-, that BYC is not a scam, just a mess caused by the erratic, absurd and ultimately self damaging actions of this individual, IconicExpert, that, for some egocentric, unmanageable personal problem, in my opinion, chooses always to destroy even his most promising projects for no apparent reason other than to gain enormous amounts of totally negative publicity.

It's quite baffling to me, actually.  

EDIT TO ADD (11-16-2014):

Forced, no doubt, by Bittrex, there was a period of 48 hours in which every investors in Bytecent could sell their coins against a wall at 50k satoshis. To me that means the launch, again, is clean since everyone had the opportunity to cash out of the unexpected mess and, since, the mess seems to have stabilized and it appears that mining is what it should have been from the beginning.

The events of the past days though have offered yet another vision of a very disturbed, insecure man in IconicExpert and, consequently, I will not be supporting Bytecent even after having corrected the mess. I wish him and every remaining investor good luck though.

[scambust]

What a funny thread. 

[barabbas]

STAY AWAY FROM BAY

Zimbeck is up to here in personal debts and is more than probably selling his Black Halo ideas to Pump&Dump groups (probably the Black Hand; possibly several) to get access to quick cash. Everything is vaporware there, nothing at all is new and when and if it is and works, it will be first in BlackCoin. IF, being the operative word. In any case, none of it is of any real value for regulation will be implemented in crypto long before any real decentralized market place or decentralized form of payment really takes effect. Mind you, no one has come even remotely close to DarkSend and no one uses it either.

But, above all, please pay attention to all the flashing red flags, ok?
1.- Self moderated thread. Don't believe the crap: Only reason for it is to avoid posts like this one you are reading to be posted there. Because they have a lot to hide and that is the only way they can pretend no one knows their trick.

2.- Read the thread. How come all of a sudden such an amount of "enthusiasts" of the project, post again and again, them all being either newbies or juniors? Draw your own conclusions... ok, I'll do it for you: They are sock puppets; accounts that are operated by a very small amount of people probably working for the likes of Bobsurplus Prometheous, Black Hand, others or a combination of several.

3.- They pretend to have sold a lot in the ICO... Thousands of BTC. Let me tell you this: Even if you would be selling $100 bills in crypto for 90% of its value in today's alts, you wouldn't sell "thousands of BTC". There's simply no money left in crypto. It's all gone to the P&D groups and the crooked devs. Gonzo. I don't care what you offer, you won't get an ico going over 200BTC no matter if you invent something that is better than sliced bread. There's simply no cash, period. How they do it you ask? Well, not discounting than the exchanges could do anything for money, misrepresent figures included, let's assume that BTER did not and they really "sold" thousands of BTC in BAY. If that was the case, they sold it to themselves. You know the old trick? The right hand pays the left hand and everything goes to the same pocket. Trust nothing but what you can see. And what is that? 20-30 BTC per 24-hour volume in Bittrex. You don't need to look anywhere else. That tells you that roughly 10BTC was invested and another 10BTC was divested. Or dumped. Use your brain, ok?

Yep, you are going to read a lot of answers to this post, you'll see. Pay attention and you'll see the same newbie accounst and a host of new ones, pretending its FUD. Use your brain. Or throw your money away. Your call.

[BanditryAndLoot]

You know the old trick? The right hand pays the left hand and everything goes to the same pocket. Trust nothing but what you can see. And what is that? 20-30 BTC per 24-hour volume in Bittrex. You don't need to look anywhere else. That tells you that roughly 10BTC was invested and another 10BTC was divested. Or dumped. Use your brain, ok?

Heh, was just thinking about this yesterday.

Say you have 10k BTC, and want to make a lot more BTC and don't want to pump a shitcoin becuase it's a little risky/not profitable enough.

So you find people to hold onto 5-10 or your BTC each out of let's say 3k BTC. Fair number, probably don't need it immediately because you've got another 7k to live off of and buy your hookers and coke.

Then you host an ICO, with explicit insctructions to these people that 95% of the 5-10 BTC you handed them be used to buy the ICO, and the other 5% goes to their pocket. I guess you could do this step yourself, but let's be honest, this shits all streamlined now.

Then, you wait for all the BTC to end up in the escrow account, and rake in all the extra profit because people that aren't involved go "OH WOW! 3k BTC in interest!" .. and shit the bed as they slam the buy button.

Then, the ICO ends, and you're left holding the bag for months at more often than not a huge loss while these fucks drag ass and get their money back to them however the escrow was set up.

Then they manage to give the impression of progress, while countless more schemes pop up. You're basically left watching these people move at about the slowest speed possible, while milking you for all you've got.

I think it's time to start demanding the cheese, rather than continue to sit here and let the milking continue..

[barabbas]

That is exactly the scenario in BAY, in my opinion. Of course these things cannot be proven... especially if the guys are in the Far East and therefore away from regular law authorities. But do you need proof? Really? Why? At the expense of your hard earned money? I don't think so. BTC is a gamble enough already and at least you know you are not going to be conned (although the price will continue being manipulated in extreme) AND you have the opportunity already to insure your investment through hedging if the risk is too much for you.

But handing it over to the BAY Zimbeck and his minions? Nah, you know better.

[nextgencoin]

STAY AWAY FROM BAY

Zimbeck is up to here in personal debts and is more than probably selling his Black Halo ideas to Pump&Dump groups (probably the Black Hand; possibly several) to get access to quick cash. Everything is vaporware there, nothing at all is new and when and if it is and works, it will be first in BlackCoin. IF, being the operative word. In any case, none of it is of any real value for regulation will be implemented in crypto long before any real decentralized market place or decentralized form of payment really takes effect. Mind you, no one has come even remotely close to DarkSend and no one uses it either.

But, above all, please pay attention to all the flashing red flags, ok?
1.- Self moderated thread. Don't believe the crap: Only reason for it is to avoid posts like this one you are reading to be posted there. Because they have a lot to hide and that is the only way they can pretend no one knows their trick.

2.- Read the thread. How come all of a sudden such an amount of "enthusiasts" of the project, post again and again, them all being either newbies or juniors? Draw your own conclusions... ok, I'll do it for you: They are sock puppets; accounts that are operated by a very small amount of people probably working for the likes of Bobsurplus Prometheous, Black Hand, others or a combination of several.

3.- They pretend to have sold a lot in the ICO... Thousands of BTC. Let me tell you this: Even if you would be selling $100 bills in crypto for 90% of its value in today's alts, you wouldn't sell "thousands of BTC". There's simply no money left in crypto. It's all gone to the P&D groups and the crooked devs. Gonzo. I don't care what you offer, you won't get an ico going over 200BTC no matter if you invent something that is better than sliced bread. There's simply no cash, period. How they do it you ask? Well, not discounting than the exchanges could do anything for money, misrepresent figures included, let's assume that BTER did not and they really "sold" thousands of BTC in BAY. If that was the case, they sold it to themselves. You know the old trick? The right hand pays the left hand and everything goes to the same pocket. Trust nothing but what you can see. And what is that? 20-30 BTC per 24-hour volume in Bittrex. You don't need to look anywhere else. That tells you that roughly 10BTC was invested and another 10BTC was divested. Or dumped. Use your brain, ok?

Yep, you are going to read a lot of answers to this post, you'll see. Pay attention and you'll see the same newbie accounst and a host of new ones, pretending its FUD. Use your brain. Or throw your money away. Your call.

The fact is you haven't provided any FACTS, just conjecture but your opinions actually crashed the price so its just as likely you are the scammer smashing coins down and then buying the dips.

I don't have a problem with people highlighting scams. I just don't think this looks like one. For one you have a known face in crypto putting their name on the coin which would be very stupid of him if this was a scam. Ahs there EVER been a bonafide scam from somone who has put their real name on a coin, I mean real scam where the guys just run off and it was all lies? Moderated thread? So what? Sockpuppets, show me a thread that doesn't have them? The truth is we know Black Halo has smart contracts and so this kind of project needs smart contracts working for it to work. Common sense would say this is not only legit but also a very exciting project that is bringing together real known tech into a killer trading project.

You got to give more than hunches otherwise you look like the scammer not them. I'm not saying your are wrong but you have given opinion forward as facts which is misleading. You basicically have given zero to prove its a scam.


As you have given your hunch I'll give mine. This in a sea of scams and shitcoins is golden and held medium to long term is gonna make a lot of people very rich. To those people you convinced its a scam you are doing them a great disservice cause you scared some away from a brilliant project that has real world utility and potential. 

[barabbas]

STAY AWAY FROM BAY

Zimbeck is up to here in personal debts and is more than probably selling his Black Halo ideas to Pump&Dump groups (probably the Black Hand; possibly several) to get access to quick cash. Everything is vaporware there, nothing at all is new and when and if it is and works, it will be first in BlackCoin. IF, being the operative word. In any case, none of it is of any real value for regulation will be implemented in crypto long before any real decentralized market place or decentralized form of payment really takes effect. Mind you, no one has come even remotely close to DarkSend and no one uses it either.

But, above all, please pay attention to all the flashing red flags, ok?
1.- Self moderated thread. Don't believe the crap: Only reason for it is to avoid posts like this one you are reading to be posted there. Because they have a lot to hide and that is the only way they can pretend no one knows their trick.

2.- Read the thread. How come all of a sudden such an amount of "enthusiasts" of the project, post again and again, them all being either newbies or juniors? Draw your own conclusions... ok, I'll do it for you: They are sock puppets; accounts that are operated by a very small amount of people probably working for the likes of Bobsurplus Prometheous, Black Hand, others or a combination of several.

3.- They pretend to have sold a lot in the ICO... Thousands of BTC. Let me tell you this: Even if you would be selling $100 bills in crypto for 90% of its value in today's alts, you wouldn't sell "thousands of BTC". There's simply no money left in crypto. It's all gone to the P&D groups and the crooked devs. Gonzo. I don't care what you offer, you won't get an ico going over 200BTC no matter if you invent something that is better than sliced bread. There's simply no cash, period. How they do it you ask? Well, not discounting than the exchanges could do anything for money, misrepresent figures included, let's assume that BTER did not and they really "sold" thousands of BTC in BAY. If that was the case, they sold it to themselves. You know the old trick? The right hand pays the left hand and everything goes to the same pocket. Trust nothing but what you can see. And what is that? 20-30 BTC per 24-hour volume in Bittrex. You don't need to look anywhere else. That tells you that roughly 10BTC was invested and another 10BTC was divested. Or dumped. Use your brain, ok?

Yep, you are going to read a lot of answers to this post, you'll see. Pay attention and you'll see the same newbie accounst and a host of new ones, pretending its FUD. Use your brain. Or throw your money away. Your call.

The fact is you haven't provided any FACTS, just conjecture but your opinions actually crashed the price so its just as likely you are the scammer smashing coins down and then buying the dips.

I don't have a problem with people highlighting scams. I just don't think this looks like one. For one you have a known face in crypto putting their name on the coin which would be very stupid of him if this was a scam. Ahs there EVER been a bonafide scam from somone who has put their real name on a coin, I mean real scam where the guys just run off and it was all lies? Moderated thread? So what? Sockpuppets, show me a thread that doesn't have them? The truth is we know Black Halo has smart contracts and so this kind of project needs smart contracts working for it to work. Common sense would say this is not only legit but also a very exciting project that is bringing together real known tech into a killer trading project.

You got to give more than hunches otherwise you look like the scammer not them. I'm not saying your are wrong but you have given opinion forward as facts which is misleading. You basicically have given zero to prove its a scam.


As you have given your hunch I'll give mine. This in a sea of scams and shitcoins is golden and held medium to long term is gonna make a lot of people very rich. To those people you convinced its a scam you are doing them a great disservice cause you scared some away from a brilliant project that has real world utility and potential. 

First of all thank you but you are giving me way too much influence, which could be flattering if true but being that it is not, it just an exercise in futility, meaningless. I don't influence the trading prices in ANY manner. The coin is trading now near the highs, it's been so, once again, proof that this thread has practically no influence at all.

Second, you may not know me, although when you judge someone you should first do some research. When I post, if I own the coin (which is never), I state I own and since when. It's called FULL DISCLOSURE. If I post anything negative, obviously I am not planning on owning the shit any time; if I post something positive, on the other hand, I have done research on that and usually I have intention to make, some time in the future, a modest investment in it. And, to further clarify, I do not INVEST in alt coins, I do swing trade, not invest.

Third, if you read the OP, you'll quickly find that the reason for the WALL OF SHAME is to respond to the absolute impunity existing in alts and translating into massive amounts of scams. There's no "burden of proof". And the reason there isn't is because the scammers/developers don't need to comply with ANY rules at all to bring forth their scams. They can lie, they can mislead, the can cheat... and the do. Blatantly. With total impunity. This WALL came out as an attempt to rein on that "wild west" mentality. The rules of the game now are leveled, equal to both parts. Fair enough?

I did not just give my opinion on BAY, I gave quite a few known facts and a few obvious red flags that support, based on experience, my overall opinion that this is a scam and that, consequently, should be avoided. You think differently, be my guest and buy it by the boatloads... at least you will not be able to claim you were misled when the bubble burst in your face. And burst it will. And you know the nice thing about the whole thing? we will not have to wait too long -just a few months max- to know who was right and who was wrong.

You mention a point which could be quite valid, the fact that the manager of the project or visible head is a well known name in alts... That, since the only real value of ALL alts is the reputation of its devs, was a very strong consideration... but, ultimately, one has to do what every investigator ALWAYS does when investigation murders or other crimes: Follow the money. By his own admission, Zimbeck is -or was- is dire debt. To a point that it was drowning him and even affecting his work (his own admission). And that changes the game completely for anyone in need if, obviously, vulnerable to dubious offers which under different circumstances that same person wouldn't ever hear. So your "point" is thus explained away.

But I also pointed out to a FACT that is just an obvious fantasy: The collection of 3,000BTC in the ICO. Over 1.1 million dollars. For nothing, nothing at all. Something that will be implemented, when and if, earlier in another coin and the name of a dev drowning in dev. Do the math. And I mentioned thre different examples, one of them, BRO, supported by the single most promising background project ever attempted in crypto (an online casino) and the support not of a well known dev, but a dozen or more of the most famous and richest poker players in the world. After one month and one day of ICO, a total of less than 300BTC were collected... 1,000BTC, not in your dreams: Typical case of right hand pays the left hand. Vaporware. And major -albeit slow- dumping ALREADY in progress. It is called "circumstantial evidence".

Not trying to convince you, though. Please go ahead and make millions with the scam. I'll post just how wrong I was when you are driving your lambo and own half of the Mediterranean islands. I hope though that some less "expert" investors are spared of just one more, and not very elaborate scam.

[altcoinUK]

Thanks for documenting and archiving the events of the BitBay money gathering jamboree. As we discussed in other threads and you pointed out here as well, there is no way an ICO could collect 3000 BTC in five days in this over-scammed and depressed market. The volume, the lack of transparency, the army of newbie nicks whom job is to repeat the message over and over how rich everybody will be be very soon and all other circumstantial evidence indicate that it is a scam.

Zimbeck is a very talented young man and it is sad to see that he ended up in assisting a shameful money collecting operation.

[benthach]

it's easy to steal online and get away

[barabbas]

MORE ON BAY. STAY AWAY!

Price is now, more or less, around the ICO's. Do not be fooled into believing the the selling will stop, because it will not. It is being relentless although contained, but make no mistake about it: These scammers want your money. They have hundreds of millions of coins to unload, hundreds of millions. And the paid NOTHING for them, understand. It's all profit, no matter if they sell at 250 sat, at 200, at 150 or even at 25 sat. All if profit. And you, the ICO buyers, and those buying from them still, will be holding the bag. As stated above, the scam success depends on you -or enough people- believing they actually sold 1 billion coins for 3,000 BTC. They did not. Not even close. They sold them to themselves, which means they did not sell at all. Not more than a few hundred BTC, at the most. The rest is right hand paying left hand and everything to the same pocket.

There's no connection with Alibaba either, that was just taking advantage of the brouahaha made by the successful IPO of Alibaba in the American stock market. There's absolutely nothing behind this project, nothing whatsoever. Just an elaborate and yet quite transparent scam. I will not worn anyone anymore. You have been told. Just stay away and let the scam manifest itself. You don't need to be hurt by this one.

[djm34]

MORE ON BAY. STAY AWAY!

Price is now, more or less, around the ICO's. Do not be fooled into believing the the selling will stop, because it will not. It is being relentless although contained, but make no mistake about it: These scammers want your money. They have hundreds of millions of coins to unload, hundreds of millions. And the paid NOTHING for them, understand. It's all profit, no matter if they sell at 250 sat, at 200, at 150 or even at 25 sat. All if profit. And you, the ICO buyers, and those buying from them still, will be holding the bag. As stated above, the scam success depends on you -or enough people- believing they actually sold 1 billion coins for 3,000 BTC. They did not. Not even close. They sold them to themselves, which means they did not sell at all. Not more than a few hundred BTC, at the most. The rest is right hand paying left hand and everything to the same pocket.

There's no connection with Alibaba either, that was just taking advantage of the brouahaha made by the successful IPO of Alibaba in the American stock market. There's absolutely nothing behind this project, nothing whatsoever. Just an elaborate and yet quite transparent scam. I will not worn anyone anymore. You have been told. Just stay away and let the scam manifest itself. You don't need to be hurt by this one.

You sadly lack any reasoning or guidance, this is sad you can get help for this illness i wish you luck in finding it on-time i truly do..

The whole they brought 2000+ of the 3000 total then which pays the right-hand bla bla you use your right hand clearly to much, my point >>
 
YOU ARE VERY GOOD AT IMAGING SO TRY THIS, TRY IMAGINE I AM THE (DEV OR AN INSIDER) OK NOW IMAGINE I BROUGHT INTO THE ICO LIKE EVERYONE ELSE AS ADVERTISED DAY ONE 252 SAT PRICE!!

(THAT WAS IMPORTANT FOR YOUR BRAIN PAY ATTENTION TOO)

BETWEEN US WE HAVE 2000 BTC WORTH OF BITBAY (QUITE ALOT) lol.

NOW SHERLOCK WE KNOW THE UPGRADES SMART CONTRACTS ETC ARE JUST AROUND THE CORNER SO WHY WOULD WE SELL FOR LESS THEN WE PAID?? LMAO! WHERE IS THE PROFIT? SO WHERE WOULD THE PROFIT BE AT 25 SAT???(PLEASE EXPLAIN)

YOU CLOWNS WOULD BE COMICAL IF PEOPLE WAS NOT LOOSING OUT, BECAUSE OF YOU, SCUM BAG..

Now i leave you to wake up if you believe you are doing good just understand you are a horrible little turd making weak hands sell and lose money. (how many do you have now?)

PS

YOUR BULLSHIT CONSPIRACYS AND RETARDED WRITTEN NEEDS TO STOP GO BACK TO YOUR CORNER BOY...
 

wow self delusion is a such great thing 

[loveyouforever]

MORE ON BAY. STAY AWAY!

Price is now, more or less, around the ICO's. Do not be fooled into believing the the selling will stop, because it will not. It is being relentless although contained, but make no mistake about it: These scammers want your money. They have hundreds of millions of coins to unload, hundreds of millions. And the paid NOTHING for them, understand. It's all profit, no matter if they sell at 250 sat, at 200, at 150 or even at 25 sat. All if profit. And you, the ICO buyers, and those buying from them still, will be holding the bag. As stated above, the scam success depends on you -or enough people- believing they actually sold 1 billion coins for 3,000 BTC. They did not. Not even close. They sold them to themselves, which means they did not sell at all. Not more than a few hundred BTC, at the most. The rest is right hand paying left hand and everything to the same pocket.

There's no connection with Alibaba either, that was just taking advantage of the brouahaha made by the successful IPO of Alibaba in the American stock market. There's absolutely nothing behind this project, nothing whatsoever. Just an elaborate and yet quite transparent scam. I will not worn anyone anymore. You have been told. Just stay away and let the scam manifest itself. You don't need to be hurt by this one.

It does make sense, what do you think of Tilecoin, ASIC-8Tile is working hard on it.

[barabbas]

wow self delusion is a such great thing 

So i ask 3 valid questions that your lover uses to scare people into selling and you give me that lol 

I didn't ask in the polite way you would have probably liked granted but i am new and have yet to learn that you should treat people differently to they treat others.

I ask for forgiveness and that you please answer and explain clearly as if i was 7 my 3 questions...

The ico was pre advertised and day one it costs you 252 sats, everyone buys for that or more as time goes on minimum (252)

if they did buy in then how do they make money selling it for less than they had to pay? (does this really make sense to you?) and could even sell for 25 sats and have profit lol

Btw they only have 500 btc from the total 3000 so far and they will be released more after work is complete and ready i hope you understand sweetcheeks a scam if one of profit not LOSS.


[/quote]

If you were someone with the mentality of a 7 year old, it will be ok.

If you were someone with the mentality of  a VERY DENSE 7 year old, it still would be ok.

But being that you have shown to be not only incredibly dense, much more so than any 7 year old would ever be, AND besides that INSULTING snd thoroughly STUPID, any explanation to you would be an exercise in futility.

[nutildah]

Completely bored by this and all current threads.

Just posting to keep my status active, mainly.

[M28MmickT]

wow self delusion is a such great thing 

So i ask 3 valid questions that your lover uses to scare people into selling and you give me that lol 

I didn't ask in the polite way you would have probably liked granted but i am new and have yet to learn that you should treat people differently to they treat others.

I ask for forgiveness and that you please answer and explain clearly as if i was 7 my 3 questions...

The ico was pre advertised and day one it costs you 252 sats, everyone buys for that or more as time goes on minimum (252)

if they did buy in then how do they make money selling it for less than they had to pay? (does this really make sense to you?) and could even sell for 25 sats and have profit lol

Btw they only have 500 btc from the total 3000 so far and they will be released more after work is complete and ready i hope you understand sweetcheeks a scam if one of profit not LOSS.

If you were someone with the mentality of a 7 year old, it will be ok.

If you were someone with the mentality of  a VERY DENSE 7 year old, it still would be ok.

But being that you have shown to be not only incredibly dense, much more so than any 7 year old would ever be, AND besides that INSULTING snd thoroughly STUPID, any explanation to you would be an exercise in futility.
[/quote]

Threw the mumble i see no answer just an angry man mentioning 7 year olds a little to much..

You have not answered because you are a serial bullshitter, i was a little insulting and again you have my apologies for hoping you get help.

I will not waste another second with you...

[fr4nkthetank]

Actually this's 'Wall of Thugs'; it's not shameful to scam people -- it requires skills and it's a task. However scamming Americans is not a skill IMO...

yeah it is shameful buddy.  even the best pickpocket in the world is shameful.  thats why they go on TV and try magician / variety show careers.  at one point in your life you sorta wake up and look in the mirror and say to yourself "what in the fuck am i doing with my life".  If you don't well then i feel sorry for you, for there is much out there that you are missing.  Even being super rich doesnt make a difference, there is a sort of meaning to life/fulfillment that at one point you need to have.

[barabbas]

Zimbeck is a very talented young man and it is sad to see that he ended up in assisting a shameful money collecting operation.

Well the jury's still quite out on Zimbeck... he seem to have had some talent... for chess. He ranked like 37th at some point I believe -which must be quite hard to do, but not difficult enough to make a living at it-, and he even published a book of chess puzzles ... that doesn't sell any copies either in print or digital form. Other than that, at 31, he's a total failure going nowhere soon having miserably failed at being an actor/model (he got to do a few sessions as an extra in movies and commercials), having even more miserably failed at being a "producer" - I believe somehow he produced a short film no one ever saw-, and even more miserable fail at being a photographer and, at 30, managed to see himself drowning on debt... which are not precisely the "achievements" of "..a very talented young man".

The Black Halo protocol is one that no one uses, no one will ever do, that has brought to Blackcoin nothing but misery, since the price is stagnant at all time lows, 92% from ATH and quickly drifting to shit. Black Halo, smart contracts and Nightmarket or whatever other shit included. So the way I see it Zimbeck is just an opportunistic  individual being paid by scammers -if not being the main one himself, which is the most likely-, to front a scam of pretty big proportions and that is already actively in progress but that, even as scams go, has been caught on time and, consequently, will be aborted in mid-progress. It HAS been aborted, already and Zimbeck and his employers are unable to keep unloading more than a very few BTC per day and at prices that will hit below 200 sat any time now. Since Zimbeck himself absolutely needs to get rid of his stack to cover debt, the unloading will continue and so will the price "progression", while this scam will quickly engross the checkered (pun fully intended) past of this questionably "talented" (relatively at 31 -- happy birthday, by the way...) young man.

[dotcoin.info]

ANOTHER BIG POTENTIAL ICO SCAM for Chinese Bagholders.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg9694945#msg9694945

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.0

[altcoinUK]

Zimbeck is a very talented young man and it is sad to see that he ended up in assisting a shameful money collecting operation.

Well the jury's still quite out on Zimbeck... he seem to have had some talent... for chess. He ranked like 37th at some point I believe -which must be quite hard to do, but not difficult enough to make a living at it-, and he even published a book of chess puzzles ... that doesn't sell any copies either in print or digital form. Other than that, at 31, he's a total failure going nowhere soon having miserably failed at being an actor/model (he got to do a few sessions as an extra in movies and commercials), having even more miserably failed at being a "producer" - I believe somehow he produced a short film no one ever saw-, and even more miserable fail at being a photographer and, at 30, managed to see himself drowning on debt... which are not precisely the "achievements" of "..a very talented young man".

The Black Halo protocol is one that no one uses, no one will ever do, that has brought to Blackcoin nothing but misery, since the price is stagnant at all time lows, 92% from ATH and quickly drifting to shit. Black Halo, smart contracts and Nightmarket or whatever other shit included. So the way I see it Zimbeck is just an opportunistic  individual being paid by scammers -if not being the main one himself, which is the most likely-, to front a scam of pretty big proportions and that is already actively in progress but that, even as scams go, has been caught on time and, consequently, will be aborted in mid-progress. It HAS been aborted, already and Zimbeck and his employers are unable to keep unloading more than a very few BTC per day and at prices that will hit below 200 sat any time now. Since Zimbeck himself absolutely needs to get rid of his stack to cover debt, the unloading will continue and so will the price "progression", while this scam will quickly engross the checkered (pun fully intended) past of this questionably "talented" (relatively at 31 -- happy birthday, by the way...) young man.

I was referring to the talent regarding mainly to the chess master role. Being an amateur chess player I appreciate the talent of accomplished chess masters. Apart from this, it seems your assessment is quite accurate. It seems David is a nice guy by default configuration, he just doesn't know what he is doing regarding to the Bitbay project, but this in the case of an ICO where peoples' money is involved could be a fatal mistake.

[barabbas]

Zimbeck is a very talented young man and it is sad to see that he ended up in assisting a shameful money collecting operation.

Well the jury's still quite out on Zimbeck... he seem to have had some talent... for chess. He ranked like 37th at some point I believe -which must be quite hard to do, but not difficult enough to make a living at it-, and he even published a book of chess puzzles ... that doesn't sell any copies either in print or digital form. Other than that, at 31, he's a total failure going nowhere soon having miserably failed at being an actor/model (he got to do a few sessions as an extra in movies and commercials), having even more miserably failed at being a "producer" - I believe somehow he produced a short film no one ever saw-, and even more miserable fail at being a photographer and, at 30, managed to see himself drowning on debt... which are not precisely the "achievements" of "..a very talented young man".

The Black Halo protocol is one that no one uses, no one will ever do, that has brought to Blackcoin nothing but misery, since the price is stagnant at all time lows, 92% from ATH and quickly drifting to shit. Black Halo, smart contracts and Nightmarket or whatever other shit included. So the way I see it Zimbeck is just an opportunistic  individual being paid by scammers -if not being the main one himself, which is the most likely-, to front a scam of pretty big proportions and that is already actively in progress but that, even as scams go, has been caught on time and, consequently, will be aborted in mid-progress. It HAS been aborted, already and Zimbeck and his employers are unable to keep unloading more than a very few BTC per day and at prices that will hit below 200 sat any time now. Since Zimbeck himself absolutely needs to get rid of his stack to cover debt, the unloading will continue and so will the price "progression", while this scam will quickly engross the checkered (pun fully intended) past of this questionably "talented" (relatively at 31 -- happy birthday, by the way...) young man.

I was referring to the talent regarding mainly to the chess master role. Being an amateur chess player I appreciate the talent of accomplished chess masters. Apart from this, it seems your assessment is quite accurate. It seems David is a nice guy by default configuration, he just doesn't know what he is doing regarding to the Bitbay project, but this in the case of an ICO where peoples' money is involved could be a fatal mistake.

A "nice guy" who hasn't worked a day in his 31 years of life and is in the habit of not paying his bills, THAT type of nice guy.

By the way, have you read the just posted FAQs on  the BitBay thread? That HAS TO BE the ultimate monument to raw, smoking, unadulterated bullshit... If after reading through that crap the dozen of "investors" still holding the ICO bags don't see clearly and get out of Dodge immediately, they will never see the difference between their asses and their heads. Wow. The mention of Non Disclosure Agreements with vendors is particularly hilarious, but the whole piece is just a riot beginning to end.

But, still, I am puzzled as to how people may be so gullible and not see the evidence in front of them: Who is selling below the ICO price? Just answering that question with the minimum imaginable of common sense will give you the inevitable, obvious answer: There wouldn't be even a minimum market, none whatsoever. And yet they keep on pulling 15-20BTC daily out of the market selling way under 252. Guess who's selling at a "loss"? Remember they paid with the right hand and pocketed that payment with the left hand (first 33% of it, already in pocket. Another coming up in 4 days, the rest a bit later). It is ALL profit, no matter if they sell at 250, at 200 or at 25 sat or lower. All (minus BTER fees), profit, so the selling HAS to continue, no matter the price. Because David HAS TO pay his debts, remember? YOU (the bagholders) are actually paying them.

[qawzsx]

Zimbeck is a very talented young man and it is sad to see that he ended up in assisting a shameful money collecting operation.

Well the jury's still quite out on Zimbeck... he seem to have had some talent... for chess. He ranked like 37th at some point I believe -which must be quite hard to do, but not difficult enough to make a living at it-, and he even published a book of chess puzzles ... that doesn't sell any copies either in print or digital form. Other than that, at 31, he's a total failure going nowhere soon having miserably failed at being an actor/model (he got to do a few sessions as an extra in movies and commercials), having even more miserably failed at being a "producer" - I believe somehow he produced a short film no one ever saw-, and even more miserable fail at being a photographer and, at 30, managed to see himself drowning on debt... which are not precisely the "achievements" of "..a very talented young man".

The Black Halo protocol is one that no one uses, no one will ever do, that has brought to Blackcoin nothing but misery, since the price is stagnant at all time lows, 92% from ATH and quickly drifting to shit. Black Halo, smart contracts and Nightmarket or whatever other shit included. So the way I see it Zimbeck is just an opportunistic  individual being paid by scammers -if not being the main one himself, which is the most likely-, to front a scam of pretty big proportions and that is already actively in progress but that, even as scams go, has been caught on time and, consequently, will be aborted in mid-progress. It HAS been aborted, already and Zimbeck and his employers are unable to keep unloading more than a very few BTC per day and at prices that will hit below 200 sat any time now. Since Zimbeck himself absolutely needs to get rid of his stack to cover debt, the unloading will continue and so will the price "progression", while this scam will quickly engross the checkered (pun fully intended) past of this questionably "talented" (relatively at 31 -- happy birthday, by the way...) young man.

I was referring to the talent regarding mainly to the chess master role. Being an amateur chess player I appreciate the talent of accomplished chess masters. Apart from this, it seems your assessment is quite accurate. It seems David is a nice guy by default configuration, he just doesn't know what he is doing regarding to the Bitbay project, but this in the case of an ICO where peoples' money is involved could be a fatal mistake.

A "nice guy" who hasn't worked a day in his 31 years of life and is in the habit of not paying his bills, THAT type of nice guy.

By the way, have you read the just posted FAQs on  the BitBay thread? That HAS TO BE the ultimate monument to raw, smoking, unadulterated bullshit... If after reading through that crap the dozen of "investors" still holding the ICO bags don't see clearly and get out of Dodge immediately, they will never see the difference between their asses and their heads. Wow. The mention of Non Disclosure Agreements with vendors is particularly hilarious, but the whole piece is just a riot beginning to end.

But, still, I am puzzled as to how people may be so gullible and not see the evidence in front of them: Who is selling below the ICO price? Just answering that question with the minimum imaginable of common sense will give you the inevitable, obvious answer: There wouldn't be even a minimum market, none whatsoever. And yet they keep on pulling 15-20BTC daily out of the market selling way under 252. Guess who's selling at a "loss"? Remember they paid with the right hand and pocketed that payment with the left hand (first 33% of it, already in pocket. Another coming up in 4 days, the rest a bit later). It is ALL profit, no matter if they sell at 250, at 200 or at 25 sat or lower. All (minus BTER fees), profit, so the selling HAS to continue, no matter the price. Because David HAS TO pay his debts, remember? YOU (the bagholders) are actually paying them.

you are just a two faced piece of shit maggot...you are only angry cause you played your hand in a wrong way, and did not sold your BC at the TOP )))

some of your posts related to BC...



"Some in the top 20 have been dumping in recent days, a few, 30k-50k BC. Nothing of significance, just not too strong hands."

Ohh, look, you used to be such a strong hand in BC ))

"By the way, outside of this forum, where I insist on being the sobering voice of reason and common sense, I am quite the cheerleader of BC... Nothing that makes me good, bad or in between, for I do for 2 fundamental reasons: I am heavily invested in BC, one; and two, I believe this coin has a chance of not only reaching much more higher levels but actually have a future... which is way more than many of the ra-ra children who post shit in this forum probably even fathom."

What happened? You did not sold your coins high enough? Maybeeee.... 90K? Ohhh  . It saddens me...NOT!

[barabbas]

To anyone that is not a full retard, I would offer the obvious, common sense explanation. To an idiotic insulting one like you, I would only offer this invitation: Fuck yourself!

[bobcaticus]

barabbas might seem to be nuttier than squirrel shit, but he speaks the truth.

[altcoinUK]

Zimbeck is a very talented young man and it is sad to see that he ended up in assisting a shameful money collecting operation.

Well the jury's still quite out on Zimbeck... he seem to have had some talent... for chess. He ranked like 37th at some point I believe -which must be quite hard to do, but not difficult enough to make a living at it-, and he even published a book of chess puzzles ... that doesn't sell any copies either in print or digital form. Other than that, at 31, he's a total failure going nowhere soon having miserably failed at being an actor/model (he got to do a few sessions as an extra in movies and commercials), having even more miserably failed at being a "producer" - I believe somehow he produced a short film no one ever saw-, and even more miserable fail at being a photographer and, at 30, managed to see himself drowning on debt... which are not precisely the "achievements" of "..a very talented young man".

The Black Halo protocol is one that no one uses, no one will ever do, that has brought to Blackcoin nothing but misery, since the price is stagnant at all time lows, 92% from ATH and quickly drifting to shit. Black Halo, smart contracts and Nightmarket or whatever other shit included. So the way I see it Zimbeck is just an opportunistic  individual being paid by scammers -if not being the main one himself, which is the most likely-, to front a scam of pretty big proportions and that is already actively in progress but that, even as scams go, has been caught on time and, consequently, will be aborted in mid-progress. It HAS been aborted, already and Zimbeck and his employers are unable to keep unloading more than a very few BTC per day and at prices that will hit below 200 sat any time now. Since Zimbeck himself absolutely needs to get rid of his stack to cover debt, the unloading will continue and so will the price "progression", while this scam will quickly engross the checkered (pun fully intended) past of this questionably "talented" (relatively at 31 -- happy birthday, by the way...) young man.

I was referring to the talent regarding mainly to the chess master role. Being an amateur chess player I appreciate the talent of accomplished chess masters. Apart from this, it seems your assessment is quite accurate. It seems David is a nice guy by default configuration, he just doesn't know what he is doing regarding to the Bitbay project, but this in the case of an ICO where peoples' money is involved could be a fatal mistake.

A "nice guy" who hasn't worked a day in his 31 years of life and is in the habit of not paying his bills, THAT type of nice guy.

By the way, have you read the just posted FAQs on  the BitBay thread? That HAS TO BE the ultimate monument to raw, smoking, unadulterated bullshit... If after reading through that crap the dozen of "investors" still holding the ICO bags don't see clearly and get out of Dodge immediately, they will never see the difference between their asses and their heads. Wow. The mention of Non Disclosure Agreements with vendors is particularly hilarious, but the whole piece is just a riot beginning to end.

But, still, I am puzzled as to how people may be so gullible and not see the evidence in front of them: Who is selling below the ICO price? Just answering that question with the minimum imaginable of common sense will give you the inevitable, obvious answer: There wouldn't be even a minimum market, none whatsoever. And yet they keep on pulling 15-20BTC daily out of the market selling way under 252. Guess who's selling at a "loss"? Remember they paid with the right hand and pocketed that payment with the left hand (first 33% of it, already in pocket. Another coming up in 4 days, the rest a bit later). It is ALL profit, no matter if they sell at 250, at 200 or at 25 sat or lower. All (minus BTER fees), profit, so the selling HAS to continue, no matter the price. Because David HAS TO pay his debts, remember? YOU (the bagholders) are actually paying them.

I have been arguing these exact same points in the BitBay thread for a while.

I have pointed out there how tragicomic is to hide behind an alleged NDA and in the meantime outline a business plan to take on eBay and build a billion dollar business.
I have been also asking them and quite amazed by the professional bio of their team and keep asking the organizers of that scam about their great team: Nicos from Russia who loves dog and Holly from Taiwan who has a family ... really ... this is the professional bio of a team that supposed to take on eBay. No description of skills nor career history nor educational background, most importantly no name - you just need to believe that they have a team which is perfectly capable to build a billion $ business.

I understand the scammers' motives and there is a rational explanation why the army of secondary, third and newbie nicks push so hard the operation, but how it is possible the few legit investors don't see the very obvious read flags, mainly as you said that the coin is dumped for lower than ICO price and all other issues we have been talking about here? It seems the greed or idiocy make them ignore the red flags.

[altcoinUK]

I apologize for bringing here posts from other threads, but since I think many arguments are really valid from the quoted user Gabralkhan, I thought it worth to post here too - especially that the scammers will surely delete it soon.

It's just desperate how the scammers, their newbie nicks trying to keep going the operation by shutting down rational concerns and arguments like Gabralkhan's is.

Be realistic, let's take the example of Alibaba, it is a system that allow Vendors to minimize their investment in sales structure, maximize their visibility and cut through intermediaries in exchange of Alibaba fees.

I doubt a lot of Vendors of Alibaba would switch to a system that require provision of everything sold at the level of sales, meaning a Vendor has to escrow also his benefices and his shipping costs and he is not guaranteed fully to get money in the end.

In case of a problem with the buyer, which is not able to free the escrow for some reasons, technical, personal or any reason possible the Vendor lost everything...Transactions are also about security and reliability of payment, I am not sure we can call an escrow something that implies a risk of loosing the money if something happen to the buyer.

Anyway, you have to think of BitBay as competing with other sales channels, try to have a business owner point of view, escrow and immobilizing funds, bear the risk of lost funds while the product is shipped.

I don't see it very attractive compared to the other sales channel for Vendors.

And for buyers either...You have to own 2 times the value of what you buy ?

Come on, people are supposed to buy BitBay coins to use the system, think about that, you think it will be fine for average people to invest 2 times the value they want to buy BitBays from fiat ?

You try to explain that BitBay is a system only made for people that have already a lot of money to guarantee the reliability and that prefer to use BitBay because they like cryptocurrencies...
Okay then but so we can't hope BitBay will go mainstream and will be widely used, and that price of coin will grow and be pegged to Dollar, because i think all these aspects are depending of the large adoption and wide use of BitBay, for me it is like shooting yourself in the foot...

Typical.

Here is a rational, perfectly valid and logical set of arguments from Gabralkhan. What happens then? The army of newbie nicks and organizers of this scam shamble nervously trying to shut down the perfectly valid arguments by saying
- the great Bitbay team (you know Nicos from Russia who loves dogs and Holly from Taiwan who has family as this is the professional bio of the team) will sort this out, we users don't need to think about it
- don't make noise if you don't like what you see

This scam is getting more and more ridiculous and desperate, while the organizers of the scam are dumping the coin below ICO price, as they will surely receive the remaining 66% of the ICO from Bter, and therefore every BAY sell at any price is a pure profit for them.

[altcoinUK]

Anyway, there is an interesting discussion in the BitBay thread and there are many rational arguments that point out why a decentralized market place (with the double escrow feature of David's Halo) would not work. And they haven't even started to discuss the main issue, that law enforcement agencies would shut down the whole thing.

[barabbas]

Anyway, there is an interesting discussion in the BitBay thread and there are many rational arguments that point out why a decentralized market place (with the double escrow feature of David's Halo) would not work. And they haven't even started to discuss the main issue, that law enforcement agencies would shut down the whole thing.

A few people is starting to see the obvious. As for Halo itself (and NT), it is quite clear that they have no practical significant usability or BC would have rocketed a long time ago instead of keep on languishing at all time lows.

Zimbeck has clearly detached himself -although not yet on the official thread- from the BAY scam, stating clearly he was hired to do a job but he is NOT lead developer, as it is still presented https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=880138.msg9716537#msg9716537. He will deliver the software he is contracted to deliver and that's the end of his commitment. People at BAY still is not aware of this and believe BAY is Zimbeck's coin. They will realize the truth momentarily and the scam will implode very, very quickly.

One of these days, some of these puerile, geeky developers is going to realize that the alt "economy" doesn't exist at all and that it does not cross over to the BTC economy -that exists and is growing... albeit at much slower pace than anticipated. Therefore to create tools for that (non-existent) "economy" is a total waste of time for it doesn't cross over to BTC's economy and it cannot be farther away from actual practical use in the real world.

Everyone and his aunt has thought the "wonderful idea" of creating a crypto e-Bay... they just "forget" that eBay's success is due to the simple fact that it has tens of millions of REAL BUYERS, while any "crypto-eBay" will have a few pot-smoking, no-money-and-living-in-their-patents'-garage 30 year old losers only interested in 4 things (in no particular order): Pot, masturbating, hacked video games and not working a single day in their lives. That's the average demographic in alts. Quite a customer base! No wonder merchants are not exactly trampling over each other to get a piece of that particular cake...

[altcoinUK]

Anyway, there is an interesting discussion in the BitBay thread and there are many rational arguments that point out why a decentralized market place (with the double escrow feature of David's Halo) would not work. And they haven't even started to discuss the main issue, that law enforcement agencies would shut down the whole thing.

A few people is starting to see the obvious. As for Halo itself (and NT), it is quite clear that they have no practical significant usability or BC would have rocketed a long time ago instead of keep on languishing at all time lows.

Zimbeck has clearly detached himself -although not yet on the official thread- from the BAY scam, stating clearly he was hired to do a job but he is NOT lead developer, as it is still presented https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=880138.msg9716537#msg9716537. He will deliver the software he is contracted to deliver and that's the end of his commitment. People at BAY still is not aware of this and believe BAY is Zimbeck's coin. They will realize the truth momentarily and the scam will implode very, very quickly.

One of these days, some of these puerile, geeky developers is going to realize that the alt "economy" doesn't exist at all and that it does not cross over to the BTC economy -that exists and is growing... albeit at much slower pace than anticipated. Therefore to create tools for that (non-existent) "economy" is a total waste of time for it doesn't cross over to BTC's economy and it cannot be farther away from actual practical use in the real world.

Everyone and his aunt has thought the "wonderful idea" of creating a crypto e-Bay... they just "forget" that eBay's success is due to the simple fact that it has tens of millions of REAL BUYERS, while any "crypto-eBay" will have a few pot-smoking, no-money-and-living-in-their-patents'-garage 30 year old losers only interested in 4 things (in no particular order): Pot, masturbating, hacked video games and not working a single day in their lives. That's the average demographic in alts. Quite a customer base! No wonder merchants are not exactly trampling over each other to get a piece of that particular cake...

That's an interesting conversation between you and David.

Since he mentioned you that he had a long private chat with me, it's probably all right if I mention here that I've suggested him exactly the same as you have: in order to provide investors with the correct information about his roles and responsibilities in the BitBay project he must make clear for everyone that he is just a developer, a contractor instead of the organizer of the project. Otherwise everyone can rightly assume that he is one of the scammers. I said to him as well that investors put money into the project because of him, while (according to him) he has very little control over the destiny of the project. I suggested him to open a separate thread to make a statement about it. It seems he doesn't want to distance himself from the project organizers.

He came cross as a very civil and reasonable guy during our discussion, but it seems he can't make his mind up terms of how to communicate his roles on the BitBay project.

I hope the altcoin developers read you description of their user base and revise their business plans by taking into account that info :-))

[barabbas]

Anyway, there is an interesting discussion in the BitBay thread and there are many rational arguments that point out why a decentralized market place (with the double escrow feature of David's Halo) would not work. And they haven't even started to discuss the main issue, that law enforcement agencies would shut down the whole thing.

A few people is starting to see the obvious. As for Halo itself (and NT), it is quite clear that they have no practical significant usability or BC would have rocketed a long time ago instead of keep on languishing at all time lows.

Zimbeck has clearly detached himself -although not yet on the official thread- from the BAY scam, stating clearly he was hired to do a job but he is NOT lead developer, as it is still presented https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=880138.msg9716537#msg9716537. He will deliver the software he is contracted to deliver and that's the end of his commitment. People at BAY still is not aware of this and believe BAY is Zimbeck's coin. They will realize the truth momentarily and the scam will implode very, very quickly.

One of these days, some of these puerile, geeky developers is going to realize that the alt "economy" doesn't exist at all and that it does not cross over to the BTC economy -that exists and is growing... albeit at much slower pace than anticipated. Therefore to create tools for that (non-existent) "economy" is a total waste of time for it doesn't cross over to BTC's economy and it cannot be farther away from actual practical use in the real world.

Everyone and his aunt has thought the "wonderful idea" of creating a crypto e-Bay... they just "forget" that eBay's success is due to the simple fact that it has tens of millions of REAL BUYERS, while any "crypto-eBay" will have a few pot-smoking, no-money-and-living-in-their-patents'-garage 30 year old losers only interested in 4 things (in no particular order): Pot, masturbating, hacked video games and not working a single day in their lives. That's the average demographic in alts. Quite a customer base! No wonder merchants are not exactly trampling over each other to get a piece of that particular cake...

That's an interesting conversation between you and David.

Since he mentioned you that he had a long private chat with me, it's probably all right if I mention here that I've suggested him exactly the same as you have: in order to provide investors with the correct information about his roles and responsibilities in the BitBay project he must make clear for everyone that he is just a developer, a contractor instead of the organizer of the project. Otherwise everyone can rightly assume that he is one of the scammers. I said to him as well that investors put money into the project because of him, while (according to him) he has very little control over the destiny of the project. I suggested him to open a separate thread to make a statement about it. It seems he doesn't want to distance himself from the project organizers.

He came cross as a very civil and reasonable guy during our discussion, but it seems he can't make his mind up terms of how to communicate his roles on the BitBay project.

I hope the altcoin developers read you description of their user base and revise their business plans by taking into account that info :-))

I believe Zimbeck is not being truthful when stating his commitment to BitBAY, otherwise why would he not come out and clear his name and involvement completely? He may be in for a very significant amount of BAY as part of his compensation, otherwise it just doesn't make any sense at all for, by now, he KNOWS the details of the scam, whether he can prove it or not, so being ambiguous about it is trying to keep two doors open, in case worst case scenario materializes, when the actual reality is that he will shut them closed both and he will be the target of all the wrath when the rest of the shit hits the fan.

But BAY is only one problem. Zimbeck has Halo, which is ANOTHER problem for, realistically, it has no value nor purpose. The double deposit idea is simply laughable and the rest of the use-cases, in real life, are not just minimal but fully avoidable. And, tech-wise, Halo is to Ethereum -and others- what a park hacker is to Koby Bryant.

As for the alts user base, the demographics are a bit wider than that but I wanted to paint a clear picture so people understand why there's no progress in adoption. It's like trying to sell bikinis in the North Pole.

[RiverBoatBTC]

Lol I went over to bitbay before even seeing this post and asked about the escrow, they treated me like a fucking idiot. But I raised real concern.

Well since its a community of dicks I am going to be a dick to them now.

Mr David zimbeck

1st red flag

Self
Actor / Singer / Entertainer
January 2000 – January 2011 (11 years 1 month)
Back in the day... best know for my role in "Pirates of the Caribbean 2" as a core pirate on site in Bahamas. I was also in a bunch of national commercials.


UPDATE: Lies he was not infact on pirates 2 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0383574/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ql_1 look at list in alpha order.

2nd Red Flag

CEO
Outsourcing
January 2000 – Present (15 years)
I manage custom projects and teams of outsourcing from all around the world. I also have distributor relationships in various material and electronic companies from China and India.
Self

He is outsourcing all the stuff for bitbay I am sure... can you say backdoors?

School of Hard Knocks  
Street Smarts
Apr 1984 - Dec 2011

More coming as I find it.

[RiverBoatBTC]

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I have a quick question for you MR Zimbeck, why are you not listed on the Pireat 2 cast and crew?
How come you are not listed on  Real estate broker Nelson Shelton & Associates whats your broker number?

https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=32698654&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=TbHI&locale=en_US&srchid=2397408101417802681382&srchindex=2&srchtotal=2&trk=vsrp_people_res_name&trkInfo=VSRPsearchId%3A2397408101417802681382%2CVSRPtargetId%3A32698654%2CVSRPcmpt%3Aprimary
Are you outsourcing all this work? Can you say backdoors?


CEO
Outsourcing
January 2000 – Present (15 years)
I manage custom projects and teams of outsourcing from all around the world. I also have distributor relationships in various material and electronic companies from China and India.

[barabbas]

I would recommed you use this thread :https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=880138.0, where you can have plenty of info on Zimbeck as well as his own explanations.

This WALL welcomes absolutely everybody and anything anyone wants to post but it would help keep things in order.

The scam that BAY obviously is, has already been posted here in some detail (and further on that other thread I just linked). The only other thing that should be noted is that the infamous Bobsurplus has surfaced on the BAY censored thread, which means he's involved if not, as I have been tipped, the "Chinese" connection, meaning the guy who hired Zimbeck to help perpetrate the scam.

More developments I am sure will come in in the next few hours and hence forward.

Regarding "Pirates 2" Zimbeck was an extra on it and extras don't get credited on IMDB. He likes to call it "glorified extra" but thare's nothing "glorifying" it: He was just an extra in the film.