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June 09, 2014, 04:05:07 PM
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This thread has gone off topic so many times I feel sorry for the OP.

I still think this thread is a great idea and everyone should trade on transparent exchanges.

Thanks again Coinnext.

Np, I will keep this up to date, and it is recommended to be regarded as the go-to list for trustworthy exchanges
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June 09, 2014, 05:26:40 PM
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Bittrex ad and delist on a weekly whim is pretty much the dumbest shortsighted strategy I've seen in an exchange. More supports short term pump n dump, start a new rinse and repeat then adding any longterm value to a real decent coins.

That may be true, but I have no reason to believe that Bittrex will delist HYPER in the near or far future. When they continue to see HYPER progress and gain market volume, they'll keep it listed.

Sorry that wasn't an opening for you to promote your shitcoin  Roll Eyes

It's not a shitcoin and I don't appriciate your arrogance. I have no patients left for those who believe the HYPER is anything but genuine, think whatever you want. It's pretty sad that there's so many scams in the crypto world that every alt coin is considered guilty until proven innocent. The fact that you would just assume it's a scam (nice try deleting your post btw) just lends credence to the idea that anonymity is bad for the crypto community. Forced transparency, not by some regulatory commission, but by the people, is what will keep cryptocurrencies relevent in the professional world. Arrogance, assumptions based on nothing more than a bad taste left by some of the scams in recent history, is not acceptable in a civilized discussion on the potential ramifications of complete transparency of cryptocurrency exchanges. Thanks for wasting five minutes of my life...

Actually, the problem is the CULTURE IN ALTERNATIVE CRYPTOCURRENCES...
Which has been carefully shaped by professional criminals for 3 years.

Starting with the ZERO PREMINE policy and 100% OPEN SOURCE policy...
This means no talented, honest Dev can make money with a quality Alt.

Go look at the SmartCard space...
Everything is locked down with Non-disclosure Agreements...
But you have the equivalent of a desktop PC + biometrics on a credit card now.

But, HERE, the CROOKED FUCKERS just steal the code and do a zero pre-mine...
Then fuck you over 1000 different ways in partnership with the above exchanges.

 
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June 09, 2014, 07:31:22 PM
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Good thread for all the black / white thinking authority lead masses.

There are reasons beyond an intent to scam to remain anonymous in cryptocurrency exchange operations.

Although I agree these are rare, but they do exist.

For me personally these reasons are related to being able to continue producing value for my e-currency customers, like I have done since 1999 believe it or not.

To be able to continue these activities and benefit the society in whole I'm going to keep both my integrity and anonymity intact. Fortunately there are people who judge people by their track record instead of their government issued id.

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June 09, 2014, 07:33:28 PM
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Good thread for all the black / white thinking authority lead masses.

There are reasons beyond an intent to scam to remain anonymous in cryptocurrency exchange operations.

Although I agree these are rare, but they do exist.

For me personally these reasons are related to being able to continue producing value for my e-currency customers, like I have done since 1999 believe it or not.

To be able to continue these activities and benefit the society in whole I'm going to keep both my integrity and anonymity intact. Fortunately there are people who judge people by their track record instead of their government issued id.

As a legitimate coin dev who wishes to remain anonymous at this stage, I feel the same way.

What was happening in the digital currency scene in 1999?

EDIT: but I think transparency can be important for exchanges, with the amount of funds which can be held. But I actually have some NXT on DGEX and just bought into the IPO for the new finnish coin through it too Smiley

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June 09, 2014, 07:34:45 PM
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What was happening in the digital currency scene in 1999?

e-gold? Was a good e-currency, too bad they shut it down.

DGEX +1440 Smiley
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June 09, 2014, 08:18:56 PM
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Transparency is extremely important and the technology introduced by the NXT community is making giant leaps in making it eventually possible to technically provide full realtime transparency of operations, not the persons behind them which should in most instances be the secondary focus. DGEX is along with other individual actors working hard to materialize that goal.

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E-gold was indeed the leader. The government goons shut it down because people used it anonymously to conduct business and fraud, just like they do now with Bitcoin. Times have changed, e-gold was unfortunately ahead of its time (not minding it was fully centralized).

For the sake of some little substance towards transparency here are the DGEX main reserve accounts

https://blockchain.info/address/1LNKq42Hx6nsWCyBsxKCDqdF3btBbufnQT
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=16386134630970163904

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June 09, 2014, 08:30:02 PM
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Do not add Kingcoiny on here its a SHAREXCOIN SCAM!!! 


The not so subtle suggestions form people here is to casually introduce it to you.

Any proof?
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June 09, 2014, 08:35:50 PM
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What about kingcoiny?

Kingcoiny is an obvious scam,  their About Us page says nothing about them as people and display no public contact info.   They even didn't do a spell check before release.   Any coin dev praising them is obviously a scammer as well for their own coin.  Whether they are sharexcoin or not or another scam group is unknown,  but what is known is that it's going to go down.

Coinnext can also be a scam site as well.  Anyone can Google pics and info of someone else,  there's no public links to their personal info to verify they are who they claim to be.  Considering the OP is made by Coinnext,  there's no way to move them off the legit list go figure.


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June 09, 2014, 10:24:46 PM
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What about kingcoiny?

Kingcoiny is an obvious scam,  their About Us page says nothing about them as people and display no public contact info.   They even didn't do a spell check before release.   Any coin dev praising them is obviously a scammer as well for their own coin.  Whether they are sharexcoin or not or another scam group is unknown,  but what is known is that it's going to go down.

Coinnext can also be a scam site as well.  Anyone can Google pics and info of someone else,  there's no public links to their personal info to verify they are who they claim to be.  Considering the OP is made by Coinnext,  there's no way to move them off the legit list go figure.



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June 09, 2014, 10:26:43 PM
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What about kingcoiny?

Coinnext can also be a scam site as well.  Anyone can Google pics and info of someone else,  there's no public links to their personal info to verify they are who they claim to be.  Considering the OP is made by Coinnext,  there's no way to move them off the legit list go figure.


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June 09, 2014, 10:38:07 PM
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it starts by supporting anon released coins THEN exchanges to trade them on..

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June 09, 2014, 10:55:30 PM
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What about kingcoiny?

Coinnext can also be a scam site as well.  Anyone can Google pics and info of someone else,  there's no public links to their personal info to verify they are who they claim to be.  Considering the OP is made by Coinnext,  there's no way to move them off the legit list go figure.


I will be speaking at the upcoming Coinsumm.it Bitcoin conference; scroll down to "Sebastien Mortelmans". Let's meet there?

Just post your and your teams info on your site,  simple task otherwise next you're going to ask everyone to fly into London just to meet you?  Lol. ...easy to say if we were all living in London.  You know exactly what we want but instead you like kingcoiny just do the same thing.

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June 10, 2014, 02:47:44 AM
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What about kingcoiny?

Coinnext can also be a scam site as well.  Anyone can Google pics and info of someone else,  there's no public links to their personal info to verify they are who they claim to be.  Considering the OP is made by Coinnext,  there's no way to move them off the legit list go figure.


I will be speaking at the upcoming Coinsumm.it Bitcoin conference; scroll down to "Sebastien Mortelmans". Let's meet there?

Just post your and your teams info on your site,  simple task otherwise next you're going to ask everyone to fly into London just to meet you?  Lol. ...easy to say if we were all living in London.  You know exactly what we want but instead you like kingcoiny just do the same thing.

Have you actually been to Coinnext? https://coinnext.com/about has been there since launch.
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June 10, 2014, 06:30:17 AM
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I was the first to be negative about Kingcoiny. I want to go back on that opinion and say they deserve a second look. The CEO has it seems given personal information including FB and Twitter links that seem legit and go back some months.

If this new info checks out they deserve to be on a list that is not anonymous. I would be cautious but not dismissive.

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June 10, 2014, 08:04:46 AM
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I was the first to be negative about Kingcoiny. I want to go back on that opinion and say they deserve a second look. The CEO has it seems given personal information including FB and Twitter links that seem legit and go back some months.

If this new info checks out they deserve to be on a list that is not anonymous. I would be cautious but not dismissive.

You might want to retract that,  read this the whois is all false info.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522849.msg7227482#msg7227482

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What about kingcoiny?

Coinnext can also be a scam site as well.  Anyone can Google pics and info of someone else,  there's no public links to their personal info to verify they are who they claim to be.  Considering the OP is made by Coinnext,  there's no way to move them off the legit list go figure.


I will be speaking at the upcoming Coinsumm.it Bitcoin conference; scroll down to "Sebastien Mortelmans". Let's meet there?

Just post your and your teams info on your site,  simple task otherwise next you're going to ask everyone to fly into London just to meet you?  Lol. ...easy to say if we were all living in London.  You know exactly what we want but instead you like kingcoiny just do the same thing.

Have you actually been to Coinnext? https://coinnext.com/about has been there since launch.

I've read it and that's why I'm asking for links but you keep refraining to do so.   Even your info doesn't say much such as company names, the only info given was just your names but even that could be fake.  I could easily Google pics and say hi I'm max keiser and I'm legit so use my site too. 

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June 11, 2014, 11:13:45 AM
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What about kingcoiny?

Coinnext can also be a scam site as well.  Anyone can Google pics and info of someone else,  there's no public links to their personal info to verify they are who they claim to be.  Considering the OP is made by Coinnext,  there's no way to move them off the legit list go figure.


I will be speaking at the upcoming Coinsumm.it Bitcoin conference; scroll down to "Sebastien Mortelmans". Let's meet there?

Just post your and your teams info on your site,  simple task otherwise next you're going to ask everyone to fly into London just to meet you?  Lol. ...easy to say if we were all living in London.  You know exactly what we want but instead you like kingcoiny just do the same thing.


Have you actually been to Coinnext? https://coinnext.com/about has been there since launch.

I've read it and that's why I'm asking for links but you keep refraining to do so.   Even your info doesn't say much such as company names, the only info given was just your names but even that could be fake.  I could easily Google pics and say hi I'm max keiser and I'm legit so use my site too. 

May I share with you my skipe ID in PM and make a call?
We'll fix soon our statement and we'll show you that we just had a bad launch.

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June 11, 2014, 11:28:16 AM
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i see updated info on post 1 and i can't argue with any of it..
i have come to the same exact conclusions on them all.

and i repeat.. the first step is supporting coin posters who use anonymous persona's as a way to hide.
it leads to tons of lost money and make our scene look bad !
and the people doing it say well i don't care how bad any coin, service, exchange etc is i made <insert amount> of bitcoin off it / them.
THAT has to stop !

provide the stage and they will abuse it.

anyway i came to see about Bittrex..
i noticed the exchange was not loading but based on pages showing up i think they are switching servers etc
Fair enough but i was just there hours ago and some warning about switching hosting services etc would have been nice.

first msg page i seen was Cloudlfare error
then i seen a Microsoft  Azure setup notification.

I know two guys i have talked to on IRC / chat also that started exchanges.
One we all know well.. R3wt and the other guy on IRC couple months ago was giving me links to his test site to check out.
His site was loosely based off of R3wt's code and they knew each other but best i can tell they both mean well enough.. no malicious intentions.
I forgot the name of the one guys site though lol
And R3wt's is well known around here Wink

edit:
and i am not saying Cryptsy is bad but they have a horrible long time reputation of screwing with the site or individual coins or having problems
and not notifying the public in any way.. i have sat on IRC before supporting complainers for 2 straight weeks on a coin i despise before like 2 months back.
while mods popped by 1 time every few days trying to tell people there was no problem..
when it was clear every single person that came in ever couple minutes in IRC said, "where is my Doge deposit ?"
THIS is by no means a one time incident.. i have harped on ALL the staff there about this for almost a year.
They need a massive and severe overhaul of their communication with their customers procedure.
A Twitter feed update once a month and a Blog update ever 2 months is not going to cut it.

So lets talk about accountability 'AND' how some treat people like shit because they think they can get away with it lol
I had a deposit vanish for 12 hrs while arb'ing and i was told the coin was forked and i found no trace of it online anywhere..
i was lied to.. a million stories like that from a million people is not cool !
It is often simply market manipulation most of us believe.

Same crap from BTER i have witnessed too..
on a transfer error msg on mcxnow when i mentioned it to the boss they just called me a liar and banned me.. that was their support lol

edit2:
Bittrex seems to be back up.. down time was short it seems.

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June 11, 2014, 04:08:32 PM
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Yesterday history repeat itself once more. The exchange ShareXcoin went abruptly offline and the owner went MIA, resulting in potential theft of hundreds of coins.. again. We had this before, Vircurex, Cryptorush, coinEX, and recently CoinOpend to just name a few.

And everytime the same reaction, a witch hunt for the alleged owner of said exchange. Apparently this community only cares about who safeguards their coins after that person scams you, this is logic 101 upside down.

This has to stop. No matter which coins you have allegiance with, no matter which exchange you use to trade on, this has to stop now.

If we want cryptocurrencies to move forward and thrive, its foundation has to be firm. Being able to trade your coin, any coin, in a secure and reliable way is a basic need that we can no longer take for granted.

The fact that we accept to trade our coins on exchanges that completely hide their identity behind a nickname on a public message board is undermining the professional growth the cryptocurrency world needs to thrive past this point.
Scamming exchanges are one most damaging things happening to cryptocurrencies. As long as we as a community keep supporting anonymous exchanges, run by some nicknames (no matter their "seniority" cfr. Tradefortress), we allow them the option to simply close down their exchange and run with all our coins.

For this I want to call upon the altcoin community, and DEMAND from your exchange to out themselves in public or CEASE TRADING at their exchange.
This will result in having overall good (with at least the intention to run it professionally) exchanges left, while weeding out the bad ones, the ones that simply do not care about anything but profit, and have zero inclination to help altcoins and this community forward.

Now, some of those anonymous exchanges have some liquidity in certain markets, so I realise the challenge for abandoning those. Yet please understand that we are often times supporting a ticking time-bomb, which potentially will blow up both our coins as the community's reputation.

A list of altcoin exchanges that are currently run by nicknames, and where the community should either demand public outing from or avoid trading on.
If an exchange is listed here, it means it's unclear who operates the exchange, either the people or the company behind it. If this is unintentional, take this as a wake-up call to add proper reference of this information on your site.

- Mcxnow - This exchange has scammed its users before, by pumping its own shares and then suddenly close down out of nowhere. This is just one of the many incidents their anonymous owner gets away with by just being a nickname.

- AllCrypt - No information found.

- BTC-E - People have traced them back to a bunch of holding companies in UK/Europe, but it's setup like a maze and unknown who is behind BTC-E.

- Poloniex - For the well informed it is known a certain "Tristan D’Agosta" is behind the nickname "busoni". Still there is no information on their site. I believe his intentions are good, but his current transparency efforts are just insufficient.

- C-CEX - No information found.

- DGex - Part of a company incorporated in Panama, no further info. This is just insufficient.

- AllCoin - Mention that they are a company, but no further details.

- EuropEx - No information found.

- UseCryptos - No information found.

- Comkort - No information found.

- Coins-e - No information found.

- Swisscex - No information found.

- Palth - No information found.

- Kingcoiny - No information found.



And last but not least, a list of exchanges who operate in a transparent matter, we should only trade on those exchanges:

- Mintpal - Company registration on /about page.

- Bittrex - Founder bios on the /about page

- Coinnext - Founder bios on the /about page

- Atomic-Trade - Company info clearly on their website

- Bleutrade - Founder bios on the /about page

- Swaphole - Company info on their site

- Bter - Company info on their site

- Cryptsy - Company info/Founder info clearly on their website


If I missed an exchange, send me a message and I will update the list accordingly.

I like your intentions! Nice collection.

One point to poloniex: "Poloniex is an LLC organized under the laws of Montana in the United States of America."

You can even check that Wink

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June 11, 2014, 04:47:19 PM
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What about kingcoiny?

Coinnext can also be a scam site as well.  Anyone can Google pics and info of someone else,  there's no public links to their personal info to verify they are who they claim to be.  Considering the OP is made by Coinnext,  there's no way to move them off the legit list go figure.


I will be speaking at the upcoming Coinsumm.it Bitcoin conference; scroll down to "Sebastien Mortelmans". Let's meet there?

Just post your and your teams info on your site,  simple task otherwise next you're going to ask everyone to fly into London just to meet you?  Lol. ...easy to say if we were all living in London.  You know exactly what we want but instead you like kingcoiny just do the same thing.


Have you actually been to Coinnext? https://coinnext.com/about has been there since launch.

I've read it and that's why I'm asking for links but you keep refraining to do so.   Even your info doesn't say much such as company names, the only info given was just your names but even that could be fake. I could easily Google pics and say hi I'm max keiser and I'm legit so use my site too.  

May I share with you my skipe ID in PM and make a call?
We'll fix soon our statement and we'll show you that we just had a bad launch.

The best,
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Do like bittrex about page and you're golden.  

Coinnext has practically the worse about page.  The founders only States their names and built and sold btc start up but never names the company sold to verify or any personal or contact links or info.

Hi guys I'm Max Keiser and as you know I'm trustworthy so you don't need to know any info except for the fact that I'm Max Keiser so go ahead and shower me with crypto.   Don't worry,  I'm legit that's all you need to know.

Insert Google pic.

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