*^*Potential SCAM WARNING*^* [HAVELOCK] New IPO'S Suspect

[RiverBoatBTC]

I noticed a bunch of IPO's coming up on HAVELOCK with common factors
1. they all end in .CO
2. they all are private whois
3. the people are highly qualified in the area's
4. the people should be able to find investors if they are who they say they are
5. background checks do no match what is said on IPO
6. havelock announces the IPO, followed by a noob account. This protects the noob account from getting blasted with negative trust.

will list sites and add info as I figure out the extent of this.

AlcheMiner.com

Provenance ASIC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=642116.0

SHAT... its the projects real name
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=647360.new#new


Havelock IPO vetting is SERIOUSLY flawed, before you invest in any security on that site I suggest you check to see if you can find the owners, background check on them.

[havelock]

Thanks for the warning, but we do a background check on all of our Funds. Any one that has applied to be listed on our exchange has submitted extensive information before getting approved to be listed.

Again we understand your concern, however anyone that has worked with us over the past couple of years knows we do not list any of our Funds lightly. If they are successful and able to raise the capital that falls on the merit of the company, not the exchange.

Havelock Investments

[RiverBoatBTC]

Your background checks suck or are ineffective, I just ran a US background check on one of your funds and found major problems.
1 owner is a criminal 3 charges
1 owner is using a spoof site and email to a site he does not own
a-2.com to a2.com

Called the owner of a2.com the phone to confirm employment, guy said he had no clue who he was or how he got the email. Then was very worried about the site a-2.com being used.

If you would like to have real background reports done you can pay me, otherwise I would have to say your reports are on level with the IPO SHAT's name and are ineffective if not a joke.

[RiverBoatBTC]

Lets start with this one
Private website
IPO posted by Havelock

The head of the company's own website does not work
http://www.chou-co.com/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi


http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Sophia-Chou/378088701

Employment History
Director of Marketing and Business Development
Alchip Technologies Inc       <-----------Why do you need the funding? http://www.zoominfo.com/c/Alchip-Technologies-Inc/1557113

Co-founder and Board Director and Vice President of Business Development
iLuminate Technology, Inc.
Co-Founder, Board Director, Vice President of BD
iLuminate Technology, Inc.

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She has or does work at a ASIC company, why do you need money to make asic chips? Did you all vet that?

[RiverBoatBTC]

Did you check their work history or backgrounds?
1 Person on the about us page has 3 criminal hits returned.
Offense Description:WATERCRAFT / PROHIBITED AREA, NEGLIGENT OPERATION OF ANY VESSEL WITHIN
Offense Description:SALTWATER STAMPS
Offense Description:D.U.S. 1ST

1 Property 4 plex owned

a-2.com now look at a2.com I called the owner he said he has no clue who Mr. Thorpe is and will give me a call back.
I explained exactly to the owner what I was doing and I felt that fraud might be happening due to the a-2 site.

UPDATE: Owner of a2.com called back said Mr. Thorpe has never worked for him, and was worried about the sites being so similar.


https://www.linkedin.com/in/rogerthorpe
The email registered to Roger Thorpe for both sites but one is owned by a different person
rxxx@a2.com   Roger Thorpe
19421 Sierra Lago Rd
Irvine, CA 92603
949-854-xxxx    

http://provasic.co/about.html
"Custom system to detect dangerous contaminant in military AC systems
System critical to team that earned the 2013 Secretary of Defense Environmental Award"
http://www.denix.osd.mil/awards/upload/2013-FY-2012-Environmental-Awards-Brochure.pdf
Ms. Dorenda Coleman, the Sustainability Manager for the Arizona
Army National Guard (AZARNG).

Nothing about AC in that award....


This thing Reeks!
                                  
Why has no one hit a noob asking for IPO with negative trust yet?

Free background check provided by me Smiley
Want due a background report on IPO's use my service! Its 1 more layer of protection

[havelock]

Her other work was not related to SCRYPT mining. Have you thought about that?

Edit:Ok just read your last post. We'll see our way of out of this thread!

[RiverBoatBTC]

Her other work was not related to SCRYPT mining. Have you thought about that?

Have you asked? Do you know this?  you should have been able to answer that with you background checks and cleared this all up.

I called havelock a while about about listing a IPO, I know what it takes. You took my word for it and only asked if I had control of the website. Nothing about my personal background was ever asked, so you can try to act like you "vet" but you really do not. You are asking investor to invest in very very suspect IPO's. My guess is you know 0 about these people or actual history which makes your site a very large danger to investors.

If anyone else can attest to what it takes to list on havelock that would be grand.

[havelock]

Her other work was not related to SCRYPT mining. Have you thought about that?

Have you asked? Do you know this?  you should have been able to answer that with you background checks and cleared this all up.

I called havelock a while about about listing a IPO, I know what it takes. You took my word for it and only asked if I had control of the website. Nothing about my personal background was ever asked, so you can try to act like you "vet" but you really do not. You are asking investor to invest in very very suspect IPO's. My guess is you know 0 about these people or actual history which makes your site a very large danger to investors.

If anyone else can attest to what it takes to list on havelock that would be grand.

You never actually applied for Funding through us, you called in and said you own RiverBoat casino and that you want to raise Funds, it ended there.

[RiverBoatBTC]

Ok, I can prove my background checks lets see if yours pass muster?

Do you care to explain how you background check your IPO's or is it a super classified from the bitcoin world. I am sure all the investors on your site would love to know.

[RiverBoatBTC]

One of your IPO's other business ventures what a great rating 
http://www.bbb.org/myrtle-beach/business-reviews/beauty-supplies-and-equipment/the-sylvan-company-in-myrtle-beach-sc-90004460

[jonsi]

Havelock what was the background check for Neo???
You are a disgrase for Bitcoin!
PEOPLE, STOP GIVING YOUR MONEY TO CRIMINALS!

[TheSmackDown]

Great work people. Keep it up and expose any wrong doers.

[Lizzardis]

You people make me so proud. If I could only do a small amount of investigating that you people do, I would seriously use those skills.

[twentyseventy]

Ok, I can prove my background checks lets see if yours pass muster?

Do you care to explain how you background check your IPO's or is it a super classified from the bitcoin world. I am sure all the investors on your site would love to know.

No top-secret clearance needed.

I can confirm that Havelock requires name, physical address, Commercial Reference Letter (Lawyer, Accountant, Doctor, Corporate Entity), Bank Reference Letter, Passport (and/or DL, I provided both), employer information, and bank account information / TIN information.

They really do require all of this to have a listing approved; it took me a couple of weeks back in January to get approval.

EDIT: Also, your points 1 and 2 don't mean anything.

Finally, regarding 6 - who care about trust rating? Unless it comes directly from a default trust member, it doesn't matter. The accounts are new because, I'm assuming, they were created directly for the purpose of being PR for that company.

[damiano]

Very impressive river

Havelock hmm

[RiverBoatBTC]

Ok, I can prove my background checks lets see if yours pass muster?

Do you care to explain how you background check your IPO's or is it a super classified from the bitcoin world. I am sure all the investors on your site would love to know.

No top-secret clearance needed.

I can confirm that Havelock requires name, physical address, Commercial Reference Letter (Lawyer, Accountant, Doctor, Corporate Entity), Bank Reference Letter, Passport (and/or DL, I provided both), employer information, and bank account information / TIN information.

They really do require all of this to have a listing approved; it took me a couple of weeks back in January to get approval.

EDIT: Also, your points 1 and 2 don't mean anything.

Finally, regarding 6 - who care about trust rating? Unless it comes directly from a default trust member, it doesn't matter. The accounts are new because, I'm assuming, they were created directly for the purpose of being PR for that company.

Oh yea the IPO kit that havelock gives you.... I have a copy it is nothing really it could all be faked. How does this attest to the character of running a security? I have talked to 3 different security holders who told me they just printed the bank account and reference letter off.

[twentyseventy]

Ok, I can prove my background checks lets see if yours pass muster?

Do you care to explain how you background check your IPO's or is it a super classified from the bitcoin world. I am sure all the investors on your site would love to know.

No top-secret clearance needed.

I can confirm that Havelock requires name, physical address, Commercial Reference Letter (Lawyer, Accountant, Doctor, Corporate Entity), Bank Reference Letter, Passport (and/or DL, I provided both), employer information, and bank account information / TIN information.

They really do require all of this to have a listing approved; it took me a couple of weeks back in January to get approval.

EDIT: Also, your points 1 and 2 don't mean anything.

Finally, regarding 6 - who care about trust rating? Unless it comes directly from a default trust member, it doesn't matter. The accounts are new because, I'm assuming, they were created directly for the purpose of being PR for that company.

Oh yea the IPO kit that havelock gives you.... I have a copy it is nothing really it could all be faked. How does this attest to the character of running a security? I have talked to 3 different security holders who told me they just printed the bank account and reference letter off.

I'm not here to get into a back and forth argument about it; I'm just telling you what I know. I don't handle fiat funds, so I was exempt from the bank letter and bank account information / TIN information. I have a good working relationship with Havelock and I've been happy with how they operate.

The underperforming IPOs have been unattractive offerings (to investors), not scams. I think that Havelock is learning from the experience.

[RiverBoatBTC]

Still does not change the fact that their process is a fail, and boarders on negligence.

[nwfella]

Sounds like at least havelock is doing a fair share more than kumala over at crypto::stocks at least.  Yeah, there have been many terrible asset's on havelock as well, and it's down sometimes but all and all one of the better sites I've used.

[RiverBoatBTC]

crypto stocks has increased verification standards that's why we have seen a sudden drop in new IPO's opening. Not saying its anything fantastic or actually usable but you can see on the verification pages of securities where they have started to verify information and such.
The simple fact of the matter is both require more vetting to be taken seriously. I found criminals hosting stocks on both today one being quintobtc on crypto and the other being a new one on havelock.