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June 16, 2014, 06:23:12 AM
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So the finished version uses only one USB port as opposed to the 4 USB cable tangle we see per box on the test unit?


The prototype looks like four independent miners each with its own power and controller/usb interface. Is the end product going to be like this?

Yeah seriously, are we going to need a USB hub for each miner?  Shocked

No you will not.

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June 16, 2014, 09:29:07 AM
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any canadian resellers yet? and just looking for some clarification here.
will i be able to use a dedicated pc for the usb cables instead of r-pi?
and will the prices of the miners be adjust per batch or daily like bitmain?

might be able to help you with this Wink

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June 17, 2014, 06:19:39 AM
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any canadian resellers yet? and just looking for some clarification here.
will i be able to use a dedicated pc for the usb cables instead of r-pi?
and will the prices of the miners be adjust per batch or daily like bitmain?

might be able to help you with this Wink

AMAZING ! let me know when things come through. i will be back from costa rica on the 4th of july. and i should have more than enough for one unit.
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June 17, 2014, 06:28:07 AM
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any canadian resellers yet? and just looking for some clarification here.
will i be able to use a dedicated pc for the usb cables instead of r-pi?
and will the prices of the miners be adjust per batch or daily like bitmain?

might be able to help you with this Wink

AMAZING ! let me know when things come through. i will be back from costa rica on the 4th of july. and i should have more than enough for one unit.

https://www.wtcr.ca

Here's the canadian distributer.

No rx or rkboxes for sale yet. Only rboxes.
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June 17, 2014, 11:39:44 AM
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any canadian resellers yet? and just looking for some clarification here.
will i be able to use a dedicated pc for the usb cables instead of r-pi?
and will the prices of the miners be adjust per batch or daily like bitmain?

might be able to help you with this Wink

AMAZING ! let me know when things come through. i will be back from costa rica on the 4th of july. and i should have more than enough for one unit.

https://www.wtcr.ca

Here's the canadian distributer.

No rx or rkboxes for sale yet. Only rboxes.

they are legitimate, but overpriced i think.

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June 17, 2014, 12:23:01 PM
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Rock xie is going to the Inside Bitcoin Hong Kong Conference between 24-25 Jun. I'm going too, so hopefully more prototypes Smiley

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June 17, 2014, 02:38:09 PM
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I will also be shipping from the US. We'll be taking orders as soon as units begin shipping from China.


 waiting to order. I  have 3 resellers to pick from all three including you have been good to me.

I am going to see if they work as well as they look.
I am going to see if they are killer loud.
I am going to see what software works.

Right now I am very happy with the 6 r-box units they work well. 

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June 17, 2014, 02:49:46 PM
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I will also be shipping from the US. We'll be taking orders as soon as units begin shipping from China.


 waiting to order. I  have 3 resellers to pick from all three including you have been good to me.

I am going to see if they work as well as they look.
I am going to see if they are killer loud.
I am going to see what software works.

Right now I am very happy with the 6 r-box units they work well.  

192 gh stable just under 240 watts with a plat psu

You should hopefully see some prototypes in resellers hands as early as the 23rd/24th. Then batch one is available on the 25th. Batch one will be very small so if you want some you will need to get in early through whomever you choose.

Message me if you have any problems
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June 17, 2014, 04:38:00 PM
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Quick question.
Does anyone know if a 6 pin PCI-E screw terminal adapter is avaliable?

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June 18, 2014, 10:31:12 AM
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Quick question.
Does anyone know if a 6 pin PCI-E screw terminal adapter is avaliable?


I sell PCIE connector leads, a new batch with 24" length is arriving at the end of the week. perhaps that is a viable solution? (I imagine you are trying to power the PCIe port from a server supply)

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June 18, 2014, 11:00:09 AM
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Probably a stupid question, but if I purchase one of these without a pi, can I just plug it into a windows laptop for set up, plug it into an ubuntu computer or set up, or configure it through an ip (like antminers)?
Would I have to keep the laptop/desktop running? 

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June 18, 2014, 01:39:25 PM
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Rockminer you best get your sales whilst you can....Antminer S3 is coming and it's glorious!!!   Grin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656461.0

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June 18, 2014, 02:15:09 PM
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Rockminer you best get your sales whilst you can....Antminer S3 is coming and it's glorious!!!   Grin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656461.0

It's too late now

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June 18, 2014, 03:46:47 PM
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Rockminer you best get your sales whilst you can....Antminer S3 is coming and it's glorious!!!   Grin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656461.0

It's too late now

For Asicminer Gen 3/Rockminer perilously close, yup.

If Antminer S3 is priced at 1 BTC per unit, their 20% of the network hash rate could easily jump to 30% almost overnight with the group buys and retail sales these things will generate. 

The S3 will sell like friggin hotcakes, no doubt, cornering the home/mid range miner and probably replace those Antminer S1 farms you see out in the wild.

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any canadian resellers yet? and just looking for some clarification here.
will i be able to use a dedicated pc for the usb cables instead of r-pi?
and will the prices of the miners be adjust per batch or daily like bitmain?

might be able to help you with this Wink

AMAZING ! let me know when things come through. i will be back from costa rica on the 4th of july. and i should have more than enough for one unit.

https://www.wtcr.ca

Here's the canadian distributer.

No rx or rkboxes for sale yet. Only rboxes.

they are legitimate, but overpriced i think.
They screwed me over so hard on USB's last year Sad
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June 18, 2014, 04:11:31 PM
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Rockminer you best get your sales whilst you can....Antminer S3 is coming and it's glorious!!!   Grin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656461.0

It's too late now

For Asicminer Gen 3/Rockminer perilously close, yup.

If Antminer S3 is priced at 1 BTC per unit, their 20% of the network hash rate could easily jump to 30% almost overnight with the group buys and retail sales these things will generate. 

The S3 will sell like friggin hotcakes, no doubt, cornering the home/mid range miner and probably replace those Antminer S1 farms you see out in the wild.
I agree the RK-BOX is obsolete even before it is released. If Bitmain opens sales on Friday or Saturday the S3 will fly off the shelves. Asicminers only hope is that the S3 goes out of stock quickly.
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June 18, 2014, 04:26:55 PM
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Rockminer you best get your sales whilst you can....Antminer S3 is coming and it's glorious!!!   Grin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656461.0

It's too late now

For Asicminer Gen 3/Rockminer perilously close, yup.

If Antminer S3 is priced at 1 BTC per unit, their 20% of the network hash rate could easily jump to 30% almost overnight with the group buys and retail sales these things will generate.  

The S3 will sell like friggin hotcakes, no doubt, cornering the home/mid range miner and probably replace those Antminer S1 farms you see out in the wild.
I agree the RK-BOX is obsolete even before it is released. If Bitmain opens sales on Friday or Saturday the S3 will fly off the shelves. Asicminers only hope is that the S3 goes out of stock quickly.

Well it will need a big price drop to compete.  

 480/450 =  1.07 watts a hash

390/500 =   .78 watts a hash

    but  if the s-3 sells at 700 usd and the rk-box sells at 500usd      it will take a while for the power savings to make the s-3 the better gear.

some quick math .

   s-3      9 x 500gh = 4500gh     at 700 a pop      9 x 700 = 6300    watts 9 x 390 = 3510 watts

  rk-box  10 x 450 gh = 4500gh  at 500 a pop    10 x 500 = 5000     watts 10 x 480 = 4800 watts

the case above hash is equal     the rk=bx has a 1300 usd price advantage    the s-3 has  a 1300 watt advantage

1300 watts = 1.3 k watts    x 24 hours =   31 k watts  a day  

    at 20 cents that is   6.20 usd a day   so  it takes  200 days for the s-3 to be better if    power is 20 cents a k-watt.

    at 15 cents that is  4.68 usd a day so it take  277 days for the s-3 to be better if power is 15 cents a k-watt.

   at 10 cents that is    3.10 usd a day  so it take 400 days for the s-3 to be better if power is 10 cents a k-watt

  so if the rk-box is 500 usd and the s-3 is 700 usd     you are better off with the rk-box.

right now I have seen the rk-box at 599 from minersource   and not seen a price for the  s-3 .

Frankly  the s-3 appears better but pricing will determine what to buy.  

 Of course if the rk box is crazy loud    or either one works shitty that will be a factor.

 so I see that pricing is very important here.

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June 18, 2014, 04:39:05 PM
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Rockminer you best get your sales whilst you can....Antminer S3 is coming and it's glorious!!!   Grin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656461.0

It's too late now

For Asicminer Gen 3/Rockminer perilously close, yup.

If Antminer S3 is priced at 1 BTC per unit, their 20% of the network hash rate could easily jump to 30% almost overnight with the group buys and retail sales these things will generate.  

The S3 will sell like friggin hotcakes, no doubt, cornering the home/mid range miner and probably replace those Antminer S1 farms you see out in the wild.
I agree the RK-BOX is obsolete even before it is released. If Bitmain opens sales on Friday or Saturday the S3 will fly off the shelves. Asicminers only hope is that the S3 goes out of stock quickly.

Well it will need a big price drop to compete.  

 480/450 =  1.07 watts a hash

390/500 =   .78 watts a hash

    but  if the s-3 sells at 700 usd and the rk-box sells at 500usd      it will take a while for the power savings to make the s-3 the better gear.

some quick math .

   s-3      9 x 500gh = 4500gh     at 700 a pop      9 x 700 = 6300    watts 9 x 390 = 3510 watts

  rk-box  10 x 450 gh = 4500gh  at 500 a pop    10 x 500 = 5000     watts 10 x 480 = 4800 watts

the case above hash is equal     the rk=bx has a 1300 usd price advantage    the s-3 has  a 1300 watt advantage

1300 watts = 1.3 k watts    x 24 hours =   31 k watts  a day  

    at 20 cents that is   6.20 usd a day   so  it takes  200 days for the s-3 to be better if    power is 20 cents a k-watt.

    at 15 cents that is  4.68 usd a day so it take  277 days for the s-3 to be better if power is 15 cents a k-watt.

   at 10 cents that is    3.10 usd a day  so it take 400 days for the s-3 to be better if power is 10 cents a k-watt

  so if the rk-box is 500 usd and the s-3 is 700 usd     you are better off with the rk-box.

right now I have seen the rk-box at 599 from minersource   and not seen a price for the  s-3 .

Frankly  the s-3 appears better but pricing will determine what to buy.  

 Of course if the rk box is crazy loud    or either one works shitty that will be a factor.

 so I see that pricing is very important here.

nice math

thanks!
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June 18, 2014, 04:40:54 PM
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@philipma, don't forget to factor the Pi that's separate.

You still need a Pi for each of the RK-Boxes and a beefier PSU as well.

With the S3's power draw at 390W, you can get cheaper PSU's for each, or fit more S3's onto a large PSU.

Can't say the same for the Rk-box which could possibly be more than the hypothetical 480W stated.

Also, if you want the most hash possible, you know you'll be able to overclock the S3 if it's anything like the S1 (which it looks like by all accounts and specs).  So probably closer to 550 GH/s perhaps.

So let's say 5 TH/s for arguments sake for the 9 S-3's you gave in your example.

That blows the Rk-Box out of the water and out of the atmosphere at the same time.

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June 18, 2014, 05:06:01 PM
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@philipma, don't forget to factor the Pi that's separate.

You still need a Pi for each of the RK-Boxes and a beefier PSU as well.

With the S3's power draw at 390W, you can get cheaper PSU's for each, or fit more S3's onto a large PSU.

Can't say the same for the Rk-box which could possibly be more than the hypothetical 480W stated.

Also, if you want the most hash possible, you know you'll be able to overclock the S3 if it's anything like the S1 (which it looks like by all accounts and specs).  So probably closer to 550 GH/s perhaps.

So let's say 5 TH/s for arguments sake for the 9 S-3's you gave in your example.

That blows the Rk-Box out of the water and out of the atmosphere at the same time.

yeah  psu's mean nothing for me ( as  i have more then 5 idle plat psu's)  but do mean a lot for others.

over-under clocking  is a big factor.

noise level a big factor.

the pi factor  is costly and the corruption of sd cards.

lastly if these s-3's work like s-1's with the simple plug in of an ethernet cord and reset after a blackout they will be a killer.


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