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June 12, 2014, 09:15:42 AM |
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Well if I was davout, I'd have a "buddy" negotiate this settlement pronto - settle for $50k, take the 400BTC reward. Easy money!  |
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madmat
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June 12, 2014, 09:19:46 AM |
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What is it about FRENCH GUYS and Bitcoin?
Karpeles, those Dealco guys out of HK, now these scammers
French Bitcoiner = AVOID
All 57 million french people are dangerous scammers. Even if they don't use bitcoin !!! That many? "I really, really, really love Limey Day." 65 821 000 in fact. 57 million was the number when i was at school. |
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June 12, 2014, 09:22:30 AM |
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What is it about FRENCH GUYS and Bitcoin?
Karpeles, those Dealco guys out of HK, now these scammers
French Bitcoiner = AVOID
All 57 million french people are dangerous scammers. Even if they don't use bitcoin !!! Yes! Even if they do not use bitcoin now, they WILL in the future. And we all know apple doesnt fall far away from the tree....except on steep terrain.... |
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June 12, 2014, 09:23:05 AM |
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Well if I was davout, I'd have a "buddy" negotiate this settlement pronto - settle for $50k, take the 400BTC reward. Easy money! SOB! I didn't think of that, that he may use this thread now to his advantage, and still come out like a motherfuckin' bandit. Fuck me royal! The only thing I can say about this revelation is that he best have an anonymous pseudo-liaison (or is it pseudo-anonymous liaison?) person in place, otherwise I will get really pissed. |
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June 12, 2014, 09:25:42 AM |
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Well if I was davout, I'd have a "buddy" negotiate this settlement pronto - settle for $50k, take the 400BTC reward. Easy money! SOB! I didn't think of that, that he may use this thread now to his advantage, and still come out like a motherfuckin' bandit. Fuck me royal! The only thing I can say about this revelation is that he best have an anonymous pseudo-liaison (or is it pseudo-anonymous liaison?) person in place, otherwise I will get really pissed. Now I am even more confused. I thought the $50K for settlement was if Davout was willing to settle. The 400BTC bounty was in case Davout doesn't settle and to reclaim the 1,132 BTC. Am I correct or can I just give you $50K and get 400BTC? |
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June 12, 2014, 09:28:06 AM |
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What is it about FRENCH GUYS and Bitcoin?
Karpeles, those Dealco guys out of HK, now these scammers
French Bitcoiner = AVOID
All 57 million french people are dangerous scammers. Even if they don't use bitcoin !!! That many? "I really, really, really love Limey Day." 65 821 000 in fact. 57 million was the number when i was at school. 57M Frenchies walk into a bar. One said, "There's almost 18M more behind us ready to surrender." Whereupon the bartender replied, "You lost me at 'behind', now what'll be?" Then another Frenchie cried out, "Let's ignore this place!" |
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madmat
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June 12, 2014, 09:30:21 AM |
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What is it about FRENCH GUYS and Bitcoin?
Karpeles, those Dealco guys out of HK, now these scammers
French Bitcoiner = AVOID
All 57 million french people are dangerous scammers. Even if they don't use bitcoin !!! That many? "I really, really, really love Limey Day." 65 821 000 in fact. 57 million was the number when i was at school. 57M Frenchies walk into a bar. One said, "There's almost 18M more behind us ready to surrender." Whereupon the bartender replied, "You lost me at 'behind', now what'll be?" Then another Frenchie cried out, "Let's ignore this place!" My english is not good enough, i didn't catch it. Can you translate it in french ? |
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June 12, 2014, 09:33:12 AM |
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I am french and i confirm: all we do all day is to walk around (we have the time because we don't work as much as you US people) wondering who we could scam during the night.
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Phinnaeus Gage (OP)
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June 12, 2014, 09:35:11 AM |
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Well if I was davout, I'd have a "buddy" negotiate this settlement pronto - settle for $50k, take the 400BTC reward. Easy money! SOB! I didn't think of that, that he may use this thread now to his advantage, and still come out like a motherfuckin' bandit. Fuck me royal! The only thing I can say about this revelation is that he best have an anonymous pseudo-liaison (or is it pseudo-anonymous liaison?) person in place, otherwise I will get really pissed. Now I am even more confused. I thought the $50K for settlement was if Davout was willing to settle. The 400BTC bounty was in case Davout doesn't settle and to reclaim the 1,132 BTC. Am I correct or can I just give you $50K and get 400BTC? I don't care how the numbers work out. Ideally, I desire the 1,132 BTC back via some liaison who'll earn 400 BTC from that sum, but will settle for no less than $50K USD via BTC, or fiat, regardless of what some liaison may make, hopefully it's capped at $50K USD, but I may not have control over that aspect. Once paid, Rassah would earn no less than $1,000 USD via BTC outta my pocket. |
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June 12, 2014, 09:39:17 AM |
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I am french and i confirm: all we do all day is to walk around (we have the time because we don't work as much as you US people) wondering who we could scam during the night.
 "We all agree! Tomorrow, when we wake at noon, we dine-and-dash Cafe Crepes." |
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June 12, 2014, 09:56:11 AM |
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Good luck Phinnaeus, hope these bastards get their comeuppance!
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June 12, 2014, 10:06:33 AM |
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I've watched the whole Instawallet fiasco like a hawk because I had some BTC in Instawallet. I never used Instalwallet, but I did keep an eye on how davout and boussac behaved during and after the incident because they are involved in other Bitcoin projects. I started using it before davout bought or was given the funds from Jav. Jav seemed like a trustworthy guy to me. Even after davout got a hold of things I didn't have any reason to distrust him at the time. I was to lazy to take it out Had something like 50 BTC there, but considering they were like $3/BTC when I put them there it was $150. I finally got off my ass and removed all but 20-something BTC like the day before the 'hack'. I wonder how many others were doing the same thing and if a lot, if that triggered davout to pull the trigger.
The way they handled the situation looks to me consistent with what I'd expect from scammers.
I cannot agree with that fully. In all honesty, it seemed to me like they went through a period of confusion then put together a workable strategy to get people payed off. The nature of the solution being kind of privacy oriented made it a somewhat more difficult problem than it might have been. I didn't get a strong sense one way or the other on the suspiciousness of the behavior early on. My best guess at this point is that from day one they planned to skim the unclaimed wallets and had to have a shutdown to do it. When the opportunity to nail an extra $1M at the expense of robbing one person who had already called them names came along, they could not resist.
Honest people would show some signs of remorse and humility after losing so much of other people's money - they were arrogant and hostile instead.
Sorry to be disagreeable, but I'm not sure I feel exactly the same way about that either. I don't know a lot of French people, but they have a reputation for being conceited pricks. (Not all of course.) Davout and Boussac sort of match this stereotype so I personally cannot read a lot into that...and I'm a conceited prick myself but not dishonest and not a thief. The way they handled the supposed investigation and audit was very suspicious. That is the single biggest factor in swaying me to believe that they probably are crooks. |
sig spam anywhere and self-moderated threads on the pol&soc board are for losers.
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June 12, 2014, 10:07:19 AM |
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What is it about FRENCH GUYS and Bitcoin?
Karpeles, those Dealco guys out of HK, now these scammers
French Bitcoiner = AVOID
All 57 million french people are dangerous scammers. Even if they don't use bitcoin !!! That many? "I really, really, really love Limey Day." 65 821 00 1 in fact. 57 million was the number when i was at school. My sister had a baby yesterday |
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June 12, 2014, 10:24:27 AM |
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I can be neutral party for that transaction if you wish!  |
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June 12, 2014, 10:37:39 AM |
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June 12, 2014, 11:04:29 AM |
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Yes, let's turn little bit of fun into nationalism war...good job guys, good job.
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June 12, 2014, 11:23:17 AM |
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Do you have more information about these guys? Besides their names?
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more or less retired.
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June 12, 2014, 11:40:13 AM |
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Phinnaeus Gage,
Have you spoken to law enforcement? Given the amount of money involved, you may want to seek French legal representation. I'm sure there are plenty of lawyers that would be more than happy to work with you for 250k.
There are also probably US law firms with French connections, so you can probably sue David Francois in French court and have the payment to the law firm contingent on winning the case and collecting funds.
I would not expect a crook to return anything unless significant pressure is applied.
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June 12, 2014, 11:41:58 AM |
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This is a bit mind numbing, there is a guy you can physically reach out and put hands on who stole 1,300+ BTC from you and this is where it is at?
Considering they are in Europe wouldn't the most violent way to recover them be the easiest as well. You need to get some Serbian or Bulgarian friends Phin.
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June 12, 2014, 11:59:31 AM
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I don't think he will give you $250K in exchange for 50.
He will settle for 50K coming from Davout from what I understand to end this hunt.
The bounty is for everyone that can recover his 1,132 coins and to apply pressure to Davout to settle for 50K and call it a day.
If I was Davout I would pay 50K and end this.
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