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July 01, 2014, 05:54:12 PM
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I'm keeping an eye on ePawncoin

And NODE is going to make a splash.

If you pick the right IPO's they can make you some serious BTC

and an equal amount of people will lose that same amount of BTC
be warned people.. especially with IPO's they are ALL scams.
this is not the stock market and these scammers can not be trusted..
they may at times let you get a bit of money but ultimately you WILL be ripped off ..it's how it works.
Ponzi scheme 101

and ignore anyone giving advice unless they have been here since pre-October 2013
since they removed the noobie jail we have an endless stream of dummy shell accounts here lying and scamming to push Ponzi scheme coins.
ignore these scamming douche bags !

it's always hilarious how noobs with 3 posts come here and seem to know everything lol
guys don't change their account for no reason ..they do it because they have to.. to scam you !
I see a noob talking here i just ignore them.. their opinions don't count.

very true, many shill accounts here, very wise words
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July 01, 2014, 08:20:58 PM
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Can someone give me an explanation on why NXT is good?

What's with those photos on their site? Are those real NXT devs or just a bunch of stock photos of random people?




the more interesting question is what do you think?

About the photos or NXT in general. I see that the photos were from an unofficial site.

This is the best explanation up on NXT I've read http://deadloch.com/nxt-explained/

It seems promising, but will it be supported or become a flash in the pan that is dropped when the new new thing comes along.



The "official" site of NXT is this http://www.nxt.org/

and i cannot see any photos like you are saying.

If the http://www.nxtcommunity.org/ is an unoffical site, then that clears it up. Thanks for the clarification.

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July 02, 2014, 09:08:53 AM
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There are so many IPO going on, most of them are scams, you can filter them by yourself.

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July 02, 2014, 12:44:03 PM
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Can someone give me an explanation on why NXT is good?

What's with those photos on their site? Are those real NXT devs or just a bunch of stock photos of random people?



The "official" site of NXT is this http://www.nxt.org/

and i cannot see any photos like you are saying.
nxt does not have an official website)) decentralizaaaaation Smiley
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July 02, 2014, 12:45:33 PM
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I would suggest AGS donation from bitshares.org

They have done marketing very poorly, but I believe it has the potential to be unbelievably successful.

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July 02, 2014, 02:10:32 PM
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I would suggest AGS donation from bitshares.org

They have done marketing very poorly, but I believe it has the potential to be unbelievably successful.

a very good suggestion. if you read the thread you'll see that it's my number 1 right now.

in fact, I've been on a writing spree about them lately.
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July 02, 2014, 02:24:26 PM
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I would suggest AGS donation from bitshares.org

They have done marketing very poorly, but I believe it has the potential to be unbelievably successful.

Agreed, that seems to be the consensus of the best IPO at the moment. Swarm has potential too if you can look past what they pay the developers... People need to be paid for their work, with that developing budget they should be able to hire talented developers, and that could very well translate into a quality project.
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July 02, 2014, 07:58:55 PM
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my gratitude to you guys for the thoughtful responses. this thread has given me alot of homework to do.

I'm definitely going to pick up, and do my best to hang onto a little bit of nxt. For the moment though I'm scared because of how quickly the price just rose. I worry that one of the big early investors is sitting there right this very moment going "well... I guess this is as high as its going to get for the time being, time to dump and buy back low."

I've decided I'm going to eyeball it for a week or two first, then buy in, just in case the price falls.

I think nxt is a really sexy looking technology, but I worry about it being closed source. I realize that's less of a concern since Java code is apparently easily decompiled, but I still can't help but wonder why not just share the code? I also worry about Java as a platform. I'm not personally knowledgeable enough about programming to know for sure either way, but I have read concerns that Java code might be more exploitable than C++. The recent price spike has alleviated these concerns to some extent though, I figure if 50 million dollars worth of people did there homework and decided to buy in, then it must be okay.

Many of the coins being pointed out are very new to me, after having taking a short hiatus from crypto-land. I am in the process now of researching credits, syscoin, crypti, and the cryptonote (nite?) coins. I really do appreciate being pointed towards those things.

My suggestions:
1. Buy some NXT.
2. Take a look at NEM stakes being sold on the NXT DEX. Consider buying a partial stake.
3. Buy some MaidSafeCoin. This is still priced near or below the IPO price depending on the day.
4. Buy some XCP. It's only about about 4x the IPO price.
5. Look at crowd-sales and tokens coming through the pipe on the Counterparty DEX e.g. Swarm, Vennd.

Full disclosure: I own NEM stake, EXO stake, NXT, XCP, and MAID.

There's plenty of stuff going on, and no need to feel like you've missed out. "It's still early days". Smiley

I'll add my two cents on the Cryptonote coins. They won't fly for a very simple reason: the addresses are way, way too long. My mom isn't going to use those, ever. Too scary for her.
The NXT team was pretty smart to truncate the 256 bit public key to 64 bits (+ auto correcting RS code).  If you want to place a bet on anonymity, better to go with a competent, non-anonymous developer. There are scant few of those...

I really want to get in on some NEM, but can't. Even at .1 NEMstakes the price is out of my league. We're talking poverty here Sad otherwise I'd probably just buy a little bit of everything and hold forever. that's why I want to get in early on an IPO and actually get something of a foothold in crypto.

Maidsafe intrigues the living crap out of me. I've been reading about it, but something still isn't clear to me. How are the coins and the decentralized internet thing connected? I'm about to take another crack at learning more about this one.

Counterparty also piqued my interest quite some time ago, but I didn't buy for the same reason I didn't buy into mastercoin, because it's a layer on top of bitcoin right? I had trouble figuring out how both things worked. Obviously, I'm not the smartest turd in this punchbowl, but I'm not the dumbest guy on earth either, and my logic is if I have to struggle to figure out how to use these technologies, then there's zero chance of them becoming more popular. However, it could just be that the infrastructure around them isn't quite developed enough yet. If that's the case then I really need to take another crack at looking into those. Which this post has inspired me to do.

Can anyone recommend some good ELI5 guides for Counterparty?

You've all given me alot to think about.



what is conclusion on syscoin? i think potential but lot of concerns. i took a look like suggested, but very easy for ppl to fork ipo
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July 02, 2014, 09:09:53 PM
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You might disagree but the best IPO right now is

 Teddy Coin!


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July 02, 2014, 09:25:23 PM
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what is conclusion on syscoin? i think potential but lot of concerns. i took a look like suggested, but very easy for ppl to fork ipo

Syscoin looks good, but funding isn't open yet. If it comes to fruition then this may save Scrypt coins.

Litecoin worshipers should really hope it will be a success, but apparently they aren't into innovating so who knows.
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July 02, 2014, 10:52:41 PM
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i am scared, it seem like good way to steal money. create coin, launch ipo, profit.

what is average ipo size?
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July 03, 2014, 04:13:32 PM
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I would suggest AGS donation from bitshares.org

They have done marketing very poorly, but I believe it has the potential to be unbelievably successful.

Agreed, that seems to be the consensus of the best IPO at the moment. Swarm has potential too if you can look past what they pay the developers... People need to be paid for their work, with that developing budget they should be able to hire talented developers, and that could very well translate into a quality project.

What is this swarm thingy? Care to direct me?

I am quite wary about IPOs. Avoided Maidsafe, for instance, and in hindsight looks a good decision.

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July 03, 2014, 08:01:37 PM
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I would suggest AGS donation from bitshares.org

They have done marketing very poorly, but I believe it has the potential to be unbelievably successful.

Agreed, that seems to be the consensus of the best IPO at the moment. Swarm has potential too if you can look past what they pay the developers... People need to be paid for their work, with that developing budget they should be able to hire talented developers, and that could very well translate into a quality project.

What is this swarm thingy? Care to direct me?

I am quite wary about IPOs. Avoided Maidsafe, for instance, and in hindsight looks a good decision.

http://swarmcorp.com/

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The right to invest and innovate is in the grips of the few with the resources. They force us to ask them permission to innovate and deny our freedom to participate. This is ostensibly to 'protect' us from our lack of intelligence. Ironically these same 'protectors' would not mind if we gamble our meagre savings at casinos or on the lottery, lest we accidentally do something of value and climb a step on the economic ladder.

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July 08, 2014, 10:54:04 AM
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Please see the FAQ. If you're concerned about having enough funds plan on $0.03 per coin during the regular presale phase and you'll have an excess of funds for the presale (meaning the presale price is <0.03, that is not the actual presale price!).

syscoin....so at 160,000,000 coins, let's say 1 cent each

that is 2580 bitcoin...that is under estimating how innovative they are friends. no one else does business on block chain or smart contract. they take scrypt and combine with namecoin and make it better. software written from scratch is bad and errorprone. syscoin to the moon! come and buy some coins
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July 08, 2014, 11:00:51 AM
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that is 2580 bitcoin...that is under estimating how innovative they are friends.
Taking well-known ideas and sticking them together has nothing to do with innovation

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no one else does business on block chain or smart contract.
plain wrong. read about:
NXT
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they take scrypt and combine with namecoin and make it better.
how is that better? mining will die sooner or later .. arrange with that
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software written from scratch is bad and errorprone. syscoin to the moon! come and buy some coins
Ok .. let me think .. Linux is an OP that was written from skretch
openoffice .. written from skretch
wait .. bitcoin was new, written from skretch and was errorprone!
NXT written from skretch .. in Java .. still worth millions of dollars

Take your arguments and rethink before posting
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July 08, 2014, 12:43:20 PM
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that is 2580 bitcoin...that is under estimating how innovative they are friends.
Taking well-known ideas and sticking them together has nothing to do with innovation

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no one else does business on block chain or smart contract.
plain wrong. read about:
NXT
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bitshares

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they take scrypt and combine with namecoin and make it better.
how is that better? mining will die sooner or later .. arrange with that
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software written from scratch is bad and errorprone. syscoin to the moon! come and buy some coins
Ok .. let me think .. Linux is an OP that was written from skretch
openoffice .. written from skretch
wait .. bitcoin was new, written from skretch and was errorprone!
NXT written from skretch .. in Java .. still worth millions of dollars

Take your arguments and rethink before posting

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July 08, 2014, 01:06:33 PM
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Can someone give me an explanation on why NXT is good?

What's with those photos on their site? Are those real NXT devs or just a bunch of stock photos of random people?

*SNIPPED*


the more interesting question is what do you think?

About the photos or NXT in general. I see that the photos were from an unofficial site.

This is the best explanation up on NXT I've read http://deadloch.com/nxt-explained/

It seems promising, but will it be supported or become a flash in the pan that is dropped when the new new thing comes along.



The "official" site of NXT is this http://www.nxt.org/

and i cannot see any photos like you are saying.

If the http://www.nxtcommunity.org/ is an unoffical site, then that clears it up. Thanks for the clarification.

Er, its already been mentioned, but NXT is seriously de-centralised and so pretty much all NXT sites can be seen as official.
This de-centralisation is one of the great strengths of NXT......it means that no-one in the NXT community is so important that they cannot be replaced.
One of the most common reasons for a currency to fail is that the core devs/community leaders either run off with your money, or turn out to be idiots, or stop supporting the currency and move on to the next get-rich-quick scheme. With NXT, this isn't a problem. The original dev for the NXT core code was replaced a long time ago, for example.

The pics on www.nxtcommunity.org are stock, but the plan is to replace the stock fotos with pictures of 'real' NXT users/investors.
I hope we can find some good-looking ones......

Lastly: NXT is open source. Has been for a very long time, since February/March as I remember. Where do you think all the NXT clones are getting the code from?
Here, probably: https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/src

And just by way of a comparison: NXT was initially financed with 21 BTC, and has bootstrapped itself with internal financing (no outside investment) to where it is today. Now look at the insane amounts of BTC that certain IPO's are attracting......    

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July 08, 2014, 01:40:06 PM
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Dont forget to join Kora and its free.

Fair Launch, No Premine and Active Devs = Logicoin
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July 08, 2014, 01:44:14 PM
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None, most ipo are scam.
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Qora is at IPO prices!
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