Here is a need to know about forum trolls and shills.

[clenell]

.. it's purpose of it's thread; evolves.  

yet still, not exactly a hardware topic. is it?

Correct. Meta most likely I think.

Don't support us Bick.

We dont know about your project and unfortunately affiliating with you effects business in a negative way. Don't take it personally, its just business.

Sorry Bick.

Joshua Zipkin why have you not issued refunds to people who never received miners from LAST YEAR? Why did you promise a January delivery for miners you never even had the PCB's for until March? Why did you lie to me and tell me the refund was in the mail over and over and over? Why did you lie about my miner delivery date over a dozen times? Can you answer any of these questions? Sound to me like YOU Joshua Zipkin are the troll.

I'm not joshua zipkin. I'm a freelance employee of AMT.  I didn't start working for AMT until a few months ago. I cannot comment on your specific situation, sorry.

But your message is so funny its ridiculous. Who says shit like that?

who says shit like that? Ill tell you... people who have had the misfortune of trying to buy bitcoin miners from Joshua Zipkin and AMT miners (the scam you purportedly "work" for). You know damn well why yuou wont answer my questions. it's because you are guilty as hell.

[miter_myles]

cute little e-fight happening on here today.. hopefully the mods clean it up soon..

[raskul]

cute little e-fight happening on here today.. hopefully the mods clean it up soon..

bah, they always spoil the fun 

[AMT_miners]

.. it's purpose of it's thread; evolves.  

yet still, not exactly a hardware topic. is it?

Correct. Meta most likely I think.

Don't support us Bick.

We dont know about your project and unfortunately affiliating with you effects business in a negative way. Don't take it personally, its just business.

Sorry Bick.

Joshua Zipkin why have you not issued refunds to people who never received miners from LAST YEAR? Why did you promise a January delivery for miners you never even had the PCB's for until March? Why did you lie to me and tell me the refund was in the mail over and over and over? Why did you lie about my miner delivery date over a dozen times? Can you answer any of these questions? Sound to me like YOU Joshua Zipkin are the troll.

Are you not going to answer the questions Joshua Zipkin? You are a complete scam artist. You have NEVER delivered on a single word you said. You have stolen from me and countless others on this board. If i can help in any way preventing others from having to go through what YOU Joshua Zipkin have put me through than I have done a great deed. You are a sorry excuse for a human being.

Craig, we joke about you in the office. And we don't even know you. There is a little picture of you on a dart board that we throw darts at. You've effected AMT's business very negatively, and you are the kind of person that should be allowed to reproduce. Josh is a nice guy and you've done nothing but stress him and cause him more crap than he needs. Anyway, back to work selling litecoin miners via this forums more highly rated litecoin miner company. Not all is what it seems craigy.

[AMT_miners]

I'm not joshua zipkin. I'm a freelance employee of AMT.  I didn't start working for AMT until a few months ago.

So what's your job responsibilities? AMT is many months late on delivering a working product. Shouldn't you be working instead of trolling forums?

That's my job, sales and to keep writing with you people everyday.

[Bicknellski]

What video.

the OP has some conspiracy theorist video blog, i gave up after a few minutes.

Ya I got some of that tinfoil hat stuff in a few PM's was worried for my safety when the nutwing types start spewing racial hatred and spout off about the illuminati / world gov't type stuff.

[clenell]

.. it's purpose of it's thread; evolves.  

yet still, not exactly a hardware topic. is it?

Correct. Meta most likely I think.

Don't support us Bick.

We dont know about your project and unfortunately affiliating with you effects business in a negative way. Don't take it personally, its just business.

Sorry Bick.

Joshua Zipkin why have you not issued refunds to people who never received miners from LAST YEAR? Why did you promise a January delivery for miners you never even had the PCB's for until March? Why did you lie to me and tell me the refund was in the mail over and over and over? Why did you lie about my miner delivery date over a dozen times? Can you answer any of these questions? Sound to me like YOU Joshua Zipkin are the troll.

Are you not going to answer the questions Joshua Zipkin? You are a complete scam artist. You have NEVER delivered on a single word you said. You have stolen from me and countless others on this board. If i can help in any way preventing others from having to go through what YOU Joshua Zipkin have put me through than I have done a great deed. You are a sorry excuse for a human being.

Craig, we joke about you in the office. And we don't even know you. There is a little picture of you on a dart board that we throw darts at. You've effected AMT's business very negatively, and you are the kind of person that should be allowed to reproduce. Josh is a nice guy and you've done nothing but stress him and cause him more crap than he needs. Anyway, back to work selling litecoin miners via this forums more highly rated litecoin miner company. Not all is what it seems craigy.

you are damn right things are not as they seem. why have you not delivered my order from last November? why have you not issued me a refund? why did you say delivery would be in January for miners you didnt get PCB's for until March? why did you lie and say my refund check was in the mail over and over? was i really supposed to believe the check was lost in the mail as you tried to claim? why did you lie about my delivery dates time and time again knowing damn well you didnt even have all the parts to complete a miner. you can laugh all you want at the customers you have screwed over but i promise you this you will NOT get away with it. if you dont want to answer these questions we'll just have to wait until the judge makes you. Don't forget Joshua Zipkin with AMT miners you have a court date on Monday the 16th.

[Xian01]

[raskul]

Don't forget Joshua you have a court date on Monday on the 16th.

can we have this televised please? or... audio recording? I don't wanna miss an act 

[Bicknellski]

You is funny Xian.

[dank]

*cough* vod and the ring of scammers he's associated with *cough*

[Flying Hellfish]

Here ya go.

Here is a recording of Mr. Lenell, this is the man that is leading the class action against AMT.

Because we need wanted to sell to him from the beginning. But he begged, for 4 weeks.

https://control.phone.com/images/temporary/vm-1384294811-14403368316-aa095708c71f08c94d0b00368e8ba4a0a64b537a.wav?_sid=AMjXlFIUFZV87lh1WVaR0CRCxp

When push comes to shove it is irrelevant what you wanted to do, what is relevant is what you did do.  You took his money, end of mate.  If you really didn't want to you wouldn't have, no matter how much he begged...  If I beg you for 4 weeks for a $1000 gift will you just give it to me?  Probably not because you really don't want to, I suspect no matter how much I beg you are extremely unlikely to gift me $1000.

Can I have a $1000, please, seriously please I am begging!!!

[raskul]

A binding transaction took place.
Plaintiff has every right to attempt to recoup losses, and... I'd say, damages for his privacy breached here.

AMT, unprofessional man!

Signed; a neutral observer.

[eid]

A binding transaction took place.
Plaintiff has every right to attempt to recoup losses, and... I'd say, damages for his privacy breached here.

AMT, unprofessional man!

Signed; a neutral observer.

+1 from another neutral observer. I can't believe this is how a business conducts itself. Apart from not fulfilling its contracts and breaching its customers privacy, the OP sounds like a whiny 12 year old.


Shocking.

[athgaurd]

Here ya go.

Here is a recording of Mr. Lenell, this is the man that is leading the class action against AMT.

Because we need wanted to sell to him from the beginning. But he begged, for 4 weeks.

https://control.phone.com/images/temporary/vm-1384294811-14403368316-aa095708c71f08c94d0b00368e8ba4a0a64b537a.wav?_sid=AMjXlFIUFZV87lh1WVaR0CRCxp

I wouldn't say he alone is "leading" the lawsuit. AMT screwed so many customers over with hopes and dreams based on empty promises that there were/are plenty of people willing to join in on this lawsuit. Not that it matters, but Mr. Lenell isn't the one that started it, he joined because he knew he should and just because he begged for 4 weeks doesn't mean anything, other than he really wanted to believe in the empty dreams AMT was/is providing. This lawsuit isn't solely about money. It is about the fraud and deception that AMT has fostered. It's about all the people and their families that have been burned by AMT, Joshua Zipkin and Jim Brown. If you are Josh or Jim who cares. Even if you are some other guy, a puppet of Josh or Jim, it doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that people are given what they are/were promised and that is why this lawsuit exists, because AMT obviously was not holding up their side of the bargain.

[acs267]

PG is surprisingly, not really a troll. But I do like a good troller, it's humorous. Phin isn't one of them. He uses a large amount of sarcasm in his posts. I like how he proves his points, actually.

[5craziest]

I'm not joshua zipkin. I'm a freelance employee of AMT.  I didn't start working for AMT until a few months ago.

So what's your job responsibilities? AMT is many months late on delivering a working product. Shouldn't you be working instead of trolling forums?

I believe he's stated before that his job responsibilities are sales and public relations (i.e. reading/responding on the forum).  Antagonizing Lennell seems to be a bonus