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June 13, 2014, 03:22:46 PM |
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Is there any possible that eligius efface my block record at the block list?
If they want to do this, they could simply delete all your record, as if you have never mined. |
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Legov
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June 13, 2014, 03:38:19 PM |
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Is it possible that he/she could have programmed their miners to submit the valid blocks for their self while continuing to get shares from Eligius?
no But he/she could withhold the block, take all his/her hashing power to the pool to earn shares/scores and release the block. There are about 10 minutes time to make this. Is this the less known "lie in wait attack"? |
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Brucexie (OP)
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June 13, 2014, 03:50:39 PM |
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Is there any possible that eligius efface my block record at the block list?
If they want to do this, they could simply delete all your record, as if you have never mined. I use 3rd party online archive service to archive the account page everyday. Or Google's page snapshot will do for me automatically. Deleting my account will instantly be caught. |
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NewLiberty
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June 13, 2014, 03:57:40 PM |
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bruCEXie
Thank you for adding more interesting information.
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S4VV4S
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June 13, 2014, 04:01:37 PM |
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Is there any possible that eligius efface my block record at the block list?
If they want to do this, they could simply delete all your record, as if you have never mined. I use 3rd party online archive service to archive the account page everyday. Or Google's page snapshot will do for me automatically. Deleting my account will instantly be caught. So you can post some screenshots of the blocks you found then? This will prove if they had deleted any of your found blocks. |
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Brucexie (OP)
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June 13, 2014, 04:02:04 PM |
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bruCEXie
Thank you for adding more interesting information.
my pleasure. |
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Brucexie (OP)
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June 13, 2014, 04:07:17 PM |
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Is there any possible that eligius efface my block record at the block list?
If they want to do this, they could simply delete all your record, as if you have never mined. I use 3rd party online archive service to archive the account page everyday. Or Google's page snapshot will do for me automatically. Deleting my account will instantly be caught. So you can post some screenshots of the blocks you found then? This will prove if they had deleted any of your found blocks. I could select some block from chain which is mined by my friend in his private pool and annonce that is mined by me in eligius. So, your propose might not be a working one, sorry. |
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HypnoticGuy
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June 13, 2014, 04:47:16 PM |
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bruCEXie
Thank you for adding more interesting information.
my pleasure. Brucexie, you spend a lot of time stating that what you are accused of cannot be proven, so clearly you know, and understand a lot about the issue. However, not one time that I have seen have you stated that you are innocent. When accused of a crime most people would start by saying they didn't do it. It is the guilty who will start by claiming it can't be proven that they did it. If there is evidence of your actions, and your government is notified, I wonder what actions, if any, they will take against you. Are you innocent until proven guilty in your country? How are the conditions at the jails in your country? |
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Brucexie (OP)
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June 13, 2014, 05:04:55 PM |
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bruCEXie
Thank you for adding more interesting information.
my pleasure. Brucexie, you spend a lot of time stating that what you are accused of cannot be proven, so clearly you know, and understand a lot about the issue. However, not one time that I have seen have you stated that you are innocent. When accused of a crime most people would start by saying they didn't do it. It is the guilty who will start by claiming it can't be proven that they did it. If there is evidence of your actions, and your government is notified, I wonder what actions, if any, they will take against you. Are you innocent until proven guilty in your country? How are the conditions at the jails in your country? I'm innocent until proven guilty in your country. Luckily, I have no need to prove that I'm innocent both under my government and bitcoin way, since it is a by-default. If someone wants to announce that I'm guilty, Hi must prove. I just want someone to get my money back according to his public visible account page. I don't like to announce something which I cannot prove, this is not a bitcoin way. |
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RealMalatesta
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June 13, 2014, 05:11:49 PM |
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I'm innocent until proven guilty in your country.
Luckily, I have no need to prove that I'm innocent both under my government and bitcoin way, since it is a by-default. If someone wants to announce that I'm guilty, Hi must prove.
I just want someone to get my money back according to his public visible account page.
I don't like to announce something which I cannot prove, this is not a bitcoin way.
So would you mind to explain what happend at BTCGuild? |
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June 13, 2014, 05:13:55 PM |
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bruCEXie
Thank you for adding more interesting information.
my pleasure. Brucexie, you spend a lot of time stating that what you are accused of cannot be proven, so clearly you know, and understand a lot about the issue. However, not one time that I have seen have you stated that you are innocent. When accused of a crime most people would start by saying they didn't do it. It is the guilty who will start by claiming it can't be proven that they did it. If there is evidence of your actions, and your government is notified, I wonder what actions, if any, they will take against you. Are you innocent until proven guilty in your country? How are the conditions at the jails in your country? I'm innocent until proven guilty in your country. Luckily, I have no need to prove that I'm innocent both under my government and bitcoin way, since it is a by-default. If someone wants to announce that I'm guilty, Hi must prove. I just want someone to get my money back according to his public visible account page. I don't like to announce something which I cannot prove, this is not a bitcoin way. There is no such thing as the "bitcoin way". You got caught and are only attempting to use the court of public opinion" to sway things in your favor and it's not working. By your statement of "I'm innocent until proven guilty in your country" shows that you are not in America, so this does not apply to you. |
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June 13, 2014, 05:19:53 PM |
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Brucexie, you must be new here. In bitcointalk you are guilty until proven innocent.
The charges have already been levied along with a good bit of evidence. You have no defense, and have no claim on any more of this community's BTC.
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Brucexie (OP)
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June 13, 2014, 05:22:30 PM |
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Brucexie, you must be new here. In bitcointalk you are guilty until proven innocent.
The charges have already been levied along with a good bit of evidence. You have no defense, and have no claim on any more of this community's BTC.
Yes you may right. But I think any one will consider one more time before moving to eligius, after seeing this post. That's enough. |
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HypnoticGuy
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June 13, 2014, 05:25:34 PM |
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bruCEXie
Thank you for adding more interesting information.
my pleasure. Brucexie, you spend a lot of time stating that what you are accused of cannot be proven, so clearly you know, and understand a lot about the issue. However, not one time that I have seen have you stated that you are innocent. When accused of a crime most people would start by saying they didn't do it. It is the guilty who will start by claiming it can't be proven that they did it. If there is evidence of your actions, and your government is notified, I wonder what actions, if any, they will take against you. Are you innocent until proven guilty in your country? How are the conditions at the jails in your country? I'm innocent until proven guilty in your country. Luckily, I have no need to prove that I'm innocent both under my government and bitcoin way, since it is a by-default. If someone wants to announce that I'm guilty, Hi must prove. I just want someone to get my money back according to his public visible account page. I don't like to announce something which I cannot prove, this is not a bitcoin way. You still have not answered my one question. How are the conditions in the jails in your country? |
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June 13, 2014, 05:28:18 PM |
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I'm keeping my miners on Eligius. Maybe you should move your miners to 50btc.com.
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June 13, 2014, 05:28:46 PM |
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Brucexie, you must be new here. In bitcointalk you are guilty until proven innocent.
The charges have already been levied along with a good bit of evidence. You have no defense, and have no claim on any more of this community's BTC.
You can't ever please the trolls, but quite a few of us are quite happy to consider evidence. But we haven't seen anything other than "You can't prove I did something wrong!". Not a lot to go on against the word of pool operator and community member with a long history of reliability. Yes you may right.
But I think any one will consider one more time before moving to eligius, after seeing this post.
That's enough.
On the other hand, some will see this as a reason to support Eligius.... grnbrg. |
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RealMalatesta
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June 13, 2014, 05:29:38 PM |
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Again, since you seem to have overread the question:
Would you mind to explain what happend at BTCGuild?
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June 13, 2014, 05:30:33 PM |
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But I think any one will consider one more time before moving to eligius, after seeing this post. And what pool would you suggest instead? GHash.IO perhaps? I think you greatly overestimate your power to damage Eligius's reputation. You haven't provided any response as to what occurred, except to say you won't say anything because nothing can be proved one way or the other. Lots of questions to be answered here that you have ignored. Why, given your hash power, were there so few solved blocks submitted? Or are claiming that you did submit solved blocks but Eligius decided for some reason you were a good target to steal/withhold payment from? Sorry, but that seems highly unlikely... |
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June 13, 2014, 05:40:47 PM
Last edit: June 13, 2014, 06:03:54 PM by HypnoticGuy |
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Brucexie,
Do you own your mining operation, or are you running it for someone else?
If you own your mining operation then why are you so worried about 200BTC? It is a very small amount of the total you have mined, and are able to mine.
If you are managing a mining operation for someone else, are they really pisssed off at you for getting caught?
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Something else just crossed my mind, and I just thought I'd put this out there.
The "You can't prove that I did it" defense seems to me like the exact thing someone would come up with while planning such a scheme.
#1 - I'm not going to get caught.
#2 - If I am caught they can't prove anything.
#3 - If they can't prove that I did it, then I will not get in trouble.
This is why he is sticking to the "you can't prove anything" defense. This was his logic from the beginning. and he has no other option but to stick with his plan, no matter how weak his defense is.
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