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June 17, 2014, 04:35:00 PM
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OP, you make a post about new code bases for cryptos and you've never even heard of Cryptonote?

All your arguments here sound much stronger when you replace 'qora' with 'monero'(or any other CN fork). Espeically considering they're anon already and don't have to deal with waiting for qora to open source(is it really not released yet or what?).

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June 17, 2014, 04:44:42 PM
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OP, you make a post about new code bases for cryptos and you've never even heard of Cryptonote?

All your arguments here sound much stronger when you replace 'qora' with 'monero'(or any other CN fork). Espeically considering they're anon already and don't have to deal with waiting for qora to open source(is it really not released yet or what?).




I did a quick search but I didn't find much a few days ago about Cryptonote. Educate me.

You assume I'm in anyway against Cryptonote, I just havent heard of it in terms of it being a brand new source code with a ton of innovation.

If it is great! Its deserves to be talked about.

Links?


Edit: I found some stuff. https://cryptonote.org/inside.php

Interesting, but apart from anonymity what does it bring in terms of function. In these times of more need for decentralization I feel like an integrated exchange is essential to move in coins, commodities and fiats. I'm not dismissing it, just don't know much yet, will keep my eye on it.  

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June 17, 2014, 06:05:34 PM
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OP, you make a post about new code bases for cryptos and you've never even heard of Cryptonote?

All your arguments here sound much stronger when you replace 'qora' with 'monero'(or any other CN fork). Espeically considering they're anon already and don't have to deal with waiting for qora to open source(is it really not released yet or what?).




I did a quick search but I didn't find much a few days ago about Cryptonote. Educate me.

You assume I'm in anyway against Cryptonote, I just havent heard of it in terms of it being a brand new source code with a ton of innovation.

If it is great! Its deserves to be talked about.

Links?


Edit: I found some stuff. https://cryptonote.org/inside.php

Interesting, but apart from anonymity what does it bring in terms of function. In these times of more need for decentralization I feel like an integrated exchange is essential to move in coins, commodities and fiats. I'm not dismissing it, just don't know much yet, will keep my eye on it. 

I think you make a very good point. I agree with you that it lacks a lot of the features of something like NXT. The asset exchange is a revolutionary feature. Does Qora have one already or is it coming soon?

Is it true that the guy who created NXT is "qora" on the forums here?
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June 17, 2014, 07:26:20 PM
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OP, you make a post about new code bases for cryptos and you've never even heard of Cryptonote?

All your arguments here sound much stronger when you replace 'qora' with 'monero'(or any other CN fork). Espeically considering they're anon already and don't have to deal with waiting for qora to open source(is it really not released yet or what?).




I did a quick search but I didn't find much a few days ago about Cryptonote. Educate me.

You assume I'm in anyway against Cryptonote, I just havent heard of it in terms of it being a brand new source code with a ton of innovation.

If it is great! Its deserves to be talked about.

Links?


Edit: I found some stuff. https://cryptonote.org/inside.php

Interesting, but apart from anonymity what does it bring in terms of function. In these times of more need for decentralization I feel like an integrated exchange is essential to move in coins, commodities and fiats. I'm not dismissing it, just don't know much yet, will keep my eye on it. 

I think you make a very good point. I agree with you that it lacks a lot of the features of something like NXT. The asset exchange is a revolutionary feature. Does Qora have one already or is it coming soon?

Is it true that the guy who created NXT is "qora" on the forums here?

The developer is a day or so away from setting up voting which has yet to been done fully on any coin so far including NXT. Then people can vote for what order planned features will be implemented. I expect asset/exchange colored coins to be the first one so probably within a few weeks.

We can't know for sure if he is BCNext, I personally think its very possible, too many similarities in how he operates. If he isn't he's doing a pretty good impression of him. whoever he is he is proving himself to be a genius who seems to implement features that large teams are struggling to do.

personally I recommend just downloading the wallet and you might find you fall in love with its simplicity.

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522102.0


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June 17, 2014, 07:29:45 PM
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We can't know for sure if he is BCNext, I personally think its very possible, too many similarities in how he operates.

what similarities, you fairytale teller  Grin Grin
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June 17, 2014, 07:42:20 PM
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We can't know for sure if he is BCNext, I personally think its very possible, too many similarities in how he operates.

what similarities, you fairytale teller  Grin Grin


Ill give you a cut and paste cause from somone else, that's all you deserve you well known Qora Troll. Whats your game, you support Qora at one end and troll it at the other? You might think you are smart but even if you do get cheap coins you do damage with your FUD. Some odd people with odd ideas on here.


***Thank you for your thoughtful response.  The dev has shown himself to be a genius through his work on Qora thus far or does he have other credentials?  I have heard the rumor that he is in fact BCNxt.  Is that still just a rumor?

Yep. I don't think we will ever find out. Most importantly that the patter is the same. Instead of years of development we got the coin within a couple of month and had 7 new versions of the client since then. We'll have v9.0 by the end of the week and the opportunity to vote what features shoud be implemented next.

As for Qora/BCNext:
1. He write "can not" instead of "cannot".
2. He doesn't worry about a nice logo, website, even open topic look. ANN topic was one of the ugliest OP on the forum. The same as Nxt's.
3. He doesn't spend a lot of time on the forum, but coding instead. He even missed IPO closing! So he's super focused on the code.
4. He is European.
5. He invented new POS algorithm.
6. He's working on anonymous transactions.
7. He postponed IPO because he didn't want to have the same problem that Nxt has.
8. Both Qora and Nxt have great names. Qora sounds awesome, Nxt was the right name for the first 2nd gen coin. So equally great.
9. He never denied he's not the same person.
10. BCNext's original hero account (one of NXTers guess) was again abandoned and 2 weeks later - there was a Qora.
11. As for the distribution - mining is lame, it is better to have IPO whales who can easily provide bounties for future development and marketing.****







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June 17, 2014, 07:57:11 PM
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Not very convincing, fits any dedicated programmer description, they usually don't give a rat's ass about design, but ok. Thing is, in all the NXT discussions most people, including CfB, agreed that BCNext is a sh1tty coder, as he presented one big file - the original NXT code that Jean Luc had to do a lot of beautifying and refactoring of. The general consensus was that BCNext is a visionary and can make projections, but coding is not his best skill. My honest opinion is, BCNext never existed, but feel free to disagree.
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June 17, 2014, 08:04:04 PM
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If it were confirmed to be him I would buy some instantly just because he's proven that he can implement all these features.

The only reason I can think of him not going public(if it is him) is that he's afraid of the fallout from NXT people calling him a traitor or something.
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June 17, 2014, 08:07:12 PM
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Not very convincing, fits any dedicated programmer description, they usually don't give a rat's ass about design, but ok. Thing is, in all the NXT discussions most people, including CfB, agreed that BCNext is a sh1tty coder, as he presented one big file - the original NXT code that Jean Luc had to do a lot of beautifying and refactoring of. The general consensus was that BCNext is a visionary and can make projections, but coding is not his best skill. My honest opinion is, BCNext never existed, but feel free to disagree.



What you have there is an opinion, like assholes we all have one so i see no reason to disagree but I have a few thoughts Cheesy We can't know for sure unless BCNext pops up and confirms Qora is him. Actually him not doing so is a little bit telling. Surely he wouldn't want someone taking credit for him?


I'm not sure BCNext has reputation for being a shitty coder. First I heard of it. Mainly I heard the whisper of genius when people mention him.

We don't know if Qora code is shitty to be honest.  


I'm not sure it matters, clearly Qora is very very talented and doing things others can only talk about but can't even start to do. We have a top dog in Qora that's for sure.

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June 17, 2014, 08:16:24 PM
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If it were confirmed to be him I would buy some instantly just because he's proven that he can implement all these features.

The only reason I can think of him not going public(if it is him) is that he's afraid of the fallout from NXT people calling him a traitor or something.




if you want my honest opinion and kind of pet theory its this.



Qora said he was involved in another coin but there was too much talking which wasn't satisfying to him. (he's not a conversationalist  Smiley)


Some have said it has similarities to NXT but also is very different, we will know when the code is released.

What I think Qora possibly is BCNext wanting to implement his ideas around NXT in his own way, taking some coding ideas that others have added to NXT. I personally got sick and tired of NXT, too much talk, too many people involved, a bazillion clients etc. Classic case of too many cooks.


And if he's not BCNext thats also cool cause he is doing the work of the NXT team almost alone and hasn't missed a beat so far.


*Its strange maybe but the thing that makes me think its him is the fact he asks the community how he should do certain things, BCNext did exactly the same. Its kind of unique behavior from someone so obviously able.



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July 30, 2014, 11:53:53 PM
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The penny has now dropped on QORA.

Remember that guy who was boasting about driving the price of QORA into the 20s so he could pick up 30 million??

This is for you:


YOU'VE NOW LOST AT LEAST 2.5 BTC.


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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=709634.msg8080339#msg8080339

Sorry guys I gotta make this its own thread, probably.

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July 31, 2014, 12:24:07 AM
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The penny has now dropped on QORA.

Remember that guy who was boasting about driving the price of QORA into the 20s so he could pick up 30 million??

This is for you:


YOU'VE NOW LOST AT LEAST 2.5 BTC.


AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=709634.msg8080339#msg8080339

Sorry guys I gotta make this its own thread, probably.

What a plonker!
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