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Author Topic: [ANN][MCN] Moneta Verde - CryptoNote coin with difficulty-BR (lnch at 15:00 GMT)  (Read 62451 times)
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June 17, 2014, 12:34:34 PM
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I hope zero knowledge proofs can come in handy here.

No, this particular situation is much worse in cryptonight currencies. The economy is totally blinded and you can't prove anything. This is by design.
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June 17, 2014, 12:39:29 PM
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I hope zero knowledge proofs can come in handy here.

No, this particular situation is much worse in cryptonight currencies. The economy is totally blinded and you can't prove anything. This is by design.

Maybe in how BCN/Monero/cash is proposed in the white paper (not sure), but isnt "cryptonight knowledge proof" the concept of prooving that computation (or part thereof) has happened or that some information is included in a particular data set, whithout revealing any other part of information, pertaining to this computation/data set. Like being able to proof your Nationality with your digitized and encrypted passport that you run through a cryptonight knowledge script which produces this proof, while keeping all other information in it secret. Think of it like showing your Nationality in your real passport to someone, while covering all other fields with your fingers.
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June 17, 2014, 12:44:13 PM
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Do you have a daemon for this?
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June 17, 2014, 12:46:01 PM
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windows wallet on launch ?

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June 17, 2014, 12:46:09 PM
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I hope zero knowledge proofs can come in handy here.

No, this particular situation is much worse in cryptonight currencies. The economy is totally blinded and you can't prove anything. This is by design.

Maybe in how BCN/Monero/cash is proposed in the white paper (not sure), but isnt "cryptonight knowledge proof" the concept of prooving that computation (or part thereof) has happened or that some information is included in a particular data set, whithout revealing any other part of information, pertaining to this computation/data set. Like being able to proof your Nationality with your digitized and encrypted passport that you run through a cryptonight knowledge script which produces this proof, while keeping all other information in it secret. Think of it like showing your Nationality in your real passport to someone, while covering all other fields with your fingers.

In the case of currencies, the network accepts a hash with a proof attached, but without knowing the public key or nonce inputted to generate the hash. However, the coin values that are also inputs to the hash are known, which is like nationality in your example. Thus you have a blind economy where any coin could belong to anybody, but transaction values can still be verified. As far as I understand, you can't have situations where identities can sometimes be revealed, even if the cryptonight system is broken and trusts false proofs.
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June 17, 2014, 12:57:17 PM
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They can't afford to not also mine other coins. If people are doing it, the difficulty will go up. They would be stupid to stick to their guns.

Specially for you I'd like to remind one good sentense from main post: "Moneta Verde is the first cryptocoin with blockreward INCREASING together with difficulty." Increasing, okay? DO YA GET IT?! GUYZ DO YA GET IT?!

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June 17, 2014, 01:08:44 PM
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When will you release the wallet and daemons and for which OSes?
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June 17, 2014, 01:50:38 PM
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All the CryptoNote coin is get crazy today..
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June 17, 2014, 02:01:02 PM
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Launch date:

June 17, 2014. 15:00 GMT

This is the right time to ask questions and to start discussion Wink

its time now?
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Launch date:

June 17, 2014. 15:00 GMT

This is the right time to ask questions and to start discussion Wink

its time now?

Launch delayed for 1 hour. Be prepared.

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June 17, 2014, 02:04:55 PM
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Where is the wallet and daemon?
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June 17, 2014, 02:06:17 PM
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another joke
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June 17, 2014, 02:22:10 PM
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I'll throw a few hashes this way
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June 17, 2014, 02:24:22 PM
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Where is the wallet and daemon?

It's coming!


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June 17, 2014, 02:42:42 PM
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Moneta Verde is the first cryptocoin with blockreward increasing together with difficulty. Why this is a good idea?

this is not true at all, syncoin and dynamiccoin, have done this before
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June 17, 2014, 02:48:28 PM
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so what's dev relationship to presidentcoin ? (himself, classmate, RWTH mate ?)  Grin

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June 17, 2014, 02:49:17 PM
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这币之前是不是发射过?还是名字重复了?

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June 17, 2014, 02:49:59 PM
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Moneta Verde is the first cryptocoin with blockreward increasing together with difficulty. Why this is a good idea?

this is not true at all, syncoin and dynamiccoin, have done this before

Haven't heard of them before. Are they dead for now?

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June 17, 2014, 02:50:39 PM
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Moneta Verde is the first cryptocoin with blockreward increasing together with difficulty. Why this is a good idea?

this is not true at all, syncoin and dynamiccoin, have done this before

Haven't heard of them before. Are they dead for now?

I'll go with a yes

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June 17, 2014, 02:52:54 PM
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Haha. Your pic is very funny and very appropriate. Moneta Verde seems to be kinda dark horse for me but in my opinion it can turn into very profitable altcoin.

Right now i'm waiting for launch. Hope that everything will be ok.
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