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June 27, 2014, 08:25:03 AM
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one or two here depending on price but can you ship to bali? :-) or would it be cheaper for me to buy directly from china since it's closer, but i assume i won't get any discounts.

thanks!

@hexagram: Hopefully I could organize shipments out of China as well so they could directly ship to you.  Smiley


awesome, thanks i'll stay tuned! :-)
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June 27, 2014, 11:02:19 AM
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Andaloons; 3 (maybe 4 depending on price); N/A; No.
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June 27, 2014, 01:22:29 PM
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waldo,

I may be interested in getting one S3 hosted.

I have read some of the group buys you have organized and have some concerns: such as,

You have changed terms AFTER miners have arrived and you started hosting, like increasing the management fees, sometimes doubling the fees. Can you give us assurances that you will not change the terms set forth at the start of the groupbuy?

I have another concern that I'd like to address after my question above has been answered.

Sincerely,

please show a link if you are correct.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=230391.520

Look at post #524.

Waldo has pulled the same trick on other groupbuys as well, advertizing low fee and then switching to higher fees AFTER miners have arrived.

If you don't believe me, please do a search yourself, I am a niewbie and yet I can come up with proof to back up my claims. You are a hero member, philipma!
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June 27, 2014, 01:34:52 PM
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Hey do you know how much it cost to host a miner?? A LOT!

So if you dont want to host a miner then just buy it and stop crying. Thanks!

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June 27, 2014, 02:30:25 PM
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As far as I know, cost of hosting a miner is a tedious job.
Its not just plug and play as it virtually seems. There are direct and indirect expenses.
Cost includes direct and indirect expenses. I know some who employees a guy just for managing the hosted miners.
Direct Expenses like;
01. Miner Price
02. Shipping Cost
03. Customs Duty Charges
04. PSU Cost in case of Non PSU ASIC Devices
Indirect Expenses like;
05. Hardware Room
06. Power Facilitation & Custom Cabling
07. Cooling Management
08. Frequent Monitoring
09. Business/Income Taxes as applicable
10. Risk of own Hardware Failure like electrical installations, PSU, etc except ASIC Device
11. Inflationary Expenses like Power Cost
12. Maintenance of Miners once weekly or atleast once a month
13. Power Backup Solutions(Battery/Inverter/Generator/etc)
14. ?
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June 27, 2014, 03:03:05 PM
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waldo,

I may be interested in getting one S3 hosted.

I have read some of the group buys you have organized and have some concerns: such as,

You have changed terms AFTER miners have arrived and you started hosting, like increasing the management fees, sometimes doubling the fees. Can you give us assurances that you will not change the terms set forth at the start of the groupbuy?

I have another concern that I'd like to address after my question above has been answered.

Sincerely,

please show a link if you are correct. 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=230391.520

Look at post #524.

Waldo has pulled the same trick on other groupbuys as well, advertizing low fee and then switching to higher fees AFTER miners have arrived.

If you don't believe me, please do a search yourself, I am a niewbie and yet I can come up with proof to back up my claims. You are a hero member, philipma!

You literally linked to the same thread that waldohoover was referring to here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=653256.msg7515598#msg7515598.

As he stated that was his first GB and hosting deal. He explained why he had to change the hosting fees. If you don't want hosting, don't host your machines. Waldo has been very honest and up front about everything. I highly doubt he is trying to screw anyone out of money, just merely covering his own costs so he is not running his business with zero returns.
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June 27, 2014, 03:20:31 PM
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I am interested in 1 - 3 AntMiner S3's.
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June 28, 2014, 08:21:59 PM
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Any news from bitmain? I am pretty sure that without a word re this sale conditions, half or "orders" will skip it and order direct.
miners are an inpatient bunch  Smiley
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June 30, 2014, 02:40:28 AM
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Thanks everyone, I guess it's totally ok to change your terms in the middle of a groupbuy. I never knew it was ok anywhere else before. Thanks for straightening me out!!!
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June 30, 2014, 11:11:03 AM
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Bitmain is proud to announce the sale of AntMiner S3 for 0.75 BTC each to include International shipping.  S3 is hashing at 478 GH/s while consumes 366 Watt power from the wall.

 

AntMiner S3 is the third generation Bitcoin mining rig made by Bitmain. It uses the state of the art BM1382 chip powered by the 28nm tech process with ultra-low power consumption, targeting the best combination of power efficiency and low capital expenditure for mining investors.

 

Specifications:

 

Hash Rate: 478 GH/s±5%

Power Consumption: 366 Watt at the wall

Power Efficiency: 0.77 J/GH on wall

Power Supply: 12V DC

Size:  331 mm x 137 mm x 160 mm

Fans: Two 14038 fans mounted on both front and back ends.

Operating Temperature: 0 °C to 35 °C

Complied with: FCC / CE

Network Connection: Ethernet

 

Notes:

1)   Power consumption: This figure depends on the PSU efficiency, ambient temperature and the accuracy of the power meters.

2)   PSU: You have to prepare your own the ATX PSU. The S3 ships without a PSU. There are 4 PCI-e connectors for +12V DC input, but it only needs to connect two of them if without overclocking (PSU not included). Don’t parallel connected different DC input from different PSU into the same Hashing board.

 

Features:

Stand alone: The S3 mines stand alone, needs no proxy server.

Quiet: The customized heat sinks mounted to the hash boards, one box over S3 to control the air flow, two fans mounted on both front and back ends that mean fans are able to work at lower speed to dissipate all heat easily. This design let S3 run at much lower noise level.

Stable: Running 24 hours a day with minimal downtime.

Accurate: Hardware Error got from the sample unit rate is as low as 0.01%, hundreds times better than some competing products.

Efficient: High energy efficiency to save your investment on PSU and electricity bills.


https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140630025130637RV8OhOwt06BC


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June 30, 2014, 11:35:59 AM
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So 0.75BTC each and shipping Jul 10th, interestingly, just after the next difficulty jump.


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June 30, 2014, 11:45:39 AM
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so whats our deal waldohoover?

impatient yes!!
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June 30, 2014, 11:48:26 AM
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I wonder what the better buy is here now that the S3 is out?

BTC Garden seems to be doing a good job.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=661116.0

btcgarden-AM-v1 @ 616 GH for $690 or Bitmain S3


Any comments on this?

Are you still buying an S3 at this time?

Anybody get coupons for the S3 yet? I have none.
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June 30, 2014, 12:14:42 PM
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I wonder what the better buy is here now that the S3 is out?

BTC Garden seems to be doing a good job.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=661116.0

btcgarden-AM-v1 @ 616 GH for $690 or Bitmain S3


Any comments on this?

Are you still buying an S3 at this time?

Anybody get coupons for the S3 yet? I have none.

need some more recieved info on these btc garden items
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June 30, 2014, 02:18:57 PM
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Waldohoover, any word on this Group Buy yet?  When will it start and what group buy price will it be, since Bitmain announced 0.75 BTC to the public?

Bitmain already opened up sales, and people are buying them left and right (minimum order of 2).

Just curious to see as this first batch of orders will ship out July 10th.

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June 30, 2014, 02:25:26 PM
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Chuck it's kind of a bummer that after 400+ posts the guy running the thing hasn't posted itt for three days and is nowhere to be found on the day sales open up.  The way the site is being bombarded it looks as though this batch will sell out quick so the GB idea may be DOA.

Also, BitmainTech said shipping will be somewhere between 7/10 & 7/20

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June 30, 2014, 02:29:55 PM
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Chuck it's kind of a bummer that after 400+ posts the guy running the thing hasn't posted itt for three days and is nowhere to be found on the day sales open up.  The way the site is being bombarded it looks as though this batch will sell out quick so the GB idea may be DOA.

Also, BitmainTech said shipping will be somewhere between 7/10 & 7/20

Yup, thanks for pointing that out.  Just wanted to see Waldohoover's take, as it could be awhile before Batch 2 opens up(possibly early August), at the rate Bitmain's getting slammed with orders.

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June 30, 2014, 02:36:29 PM
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So what is the discount? If the discount is small then I just order it from bitmain now before it's sold out
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June 30, 2014, 02:40:54 PM
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scammers are back i just got a PM from a 'waldhoover' saying group buy is good to go and to send payment to 19yAQavBtBFXkjYzPnXij9DWwwyrtoDMLp 
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June 30, 2014, 02:49:21 PM
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Obviously groupbuy and reseller options are only available for later batches, the first one is exclusively sold through bitmain.

The second /3rd batch should allow a groupbuy, this should lead to a nice price per unit.

It is however likely that the minimum order quantity of 2 will prevail.
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