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August 16, 2016, 09:08:54 AM
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@pabloangello that is very true! It is also why we see why many people do not hold their coins long term. They fear that their profits will diminish. For them their paper profits are already real money which is not. They only think it is.

Yes. Holding long term is very very hard. Imagine you bought NEM at 30satoshi, it rises to 300satoshi, then try not to sell (You dont know then that it will rise to 2000sat in couple months). To do that you need to be experienced investor or complete beginner bag holder.

Hahaha. So you mean to say you have to be completely very skilled or very stupid to be a big winner in trading. That is two extremes at each end of the spectrum.

In second case (you called it "stupid") you are just lucky, sometimes.

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@pabloangello that is very true! It is also why we see why many people do not hold their coins long term. They fear that their profits will diminish. For them their paper profits are already real money which is not. They only think it is.

Yes. Holding long term is very very hard. Imagine you bought NEM at 30satoshi, it rises to 300satoshi, then try not to sell (You dont know then that it will rise to 2000sat in couple months). To do that you need to be experienced investor or complete beginner bag holder.

Hahaha. So you mean to say you have to be completely very skilled or very stupid to be a big winner in trading. That is two extremes at each end of the spectrum.

There's also the absentee holder.  Bitcoin had a lot of them, people who acquired coins for fun in 2009/2010 and left them on old drives.  The absentee Bitcoin holders were only reminded about their jackpot when Bitcoin was making headlines everywhere in 2013. . .  some interesting stories about them if you set your google search filter to only 2013.

http://blockexplore.in/static/data/stalelist.html

There's 168 addresses on the stale list.  I could definitely see something like 50-100 of those addresses making it to $1.  A lot of them are people who got their NEM in 2015, lost interest for various reasons (most probably boredom), and will only recall owning XEM if it makes international headlines some day.  There'll be a bunch of rags-to-riches headlines, just like Bitcoin had in 2013, and this will probably be some good marketing.


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August 16, 2016, 09:31:48 AM
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I always felt like ETH marketcap was so big because of banks and fin institutions bought in and probably brought price up as marketing strategy to ensure that their bet will dinstinct from rest of alts. As BigSirko said, ETH is not user friendly and is not adopted by anyone really. The only solution to big cap is that it was manipulated by likes of Goldman sachs. Do you guys think that ETH marketcap is made of genuine interest of public?

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August 16, 2016, 05:27:58 PM
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I always felt like ETH marketcap was so big because of banks and fin institutions bought in and probably brought price up as marketing strategy to ensure that their bet will dinstinct from rest of alts. As BigSirko said, ETH is not user friendly and is not adopted by anyone really. The only solution to big cap is that it was manipulated by likes of Goldman sachs. Do you guys think that ETH marketcap is made of genuine interest of public?

Agreed... there was some VC money swirling around in there. Smoke filled rooms with backroom handshakes, no doubt. The crypto investors mostly bought in during the Fomo period. Most ico buyers were busy dumping at one dollar, not buying from my observations and conversations. The market cap was a knee jerk to some sort of stimulus from interested investors that probably got sold on it. The Ethereum folks certainly are not rivaled in the evangelism and social networking category. Even with the current market cap, can anyone think of one single "killer" app that required smart contracts? The DAO was a bust, Augur might be good, but who knows.

Bottom line, that 1 billion is speculation, not practical application valuation imho.

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I always felt like ETH marketcap was so big because of banks and fin institutions bought in and probably brought price up as marketing strategy to ensure that their bet will dinstinct from rest of alts. As BigSirko said, ETH is not user friendly and is not adopted by anyone really. The only solution to big cap is that it was manipulated by likes of Goldman sachs. Do you guys think that ETH marketcap is made of genuine interest of public?

Agreed... there was some VC money swirling around in there. Smoke filled rooms with backroom handshakes, no doubt. The crypto investors mostly bought in during the Fomo period. Most ico buyers were busy dumping at one dollar, not buying from my observations and conversations. The market cap was a knee jerk to some sort of stimulus from interested investors that probably got sold on it. The Ethereum folks certainly are not rivaled in the evangelism and social networking category. Even with the current market cap, can anyone think of one single "killer" app that required smart contracts? The DAO was a bust, Augur might be good, but who knows.

Bottom line, that 1 billion is speculation, not practical application valuation imho.

I agree, and also partially because a big amount was raised with the ICO...

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August 16, 2016, 10:09:33 PM
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None of these coins are getting higher because of some "mobile" element, the defining moment that can be said is when a coin has achieved mass adoption.

Otherwise it's just devs and the same people who bought into the coin pumping it up.

Mobile app is good marketing and, a well-designed one, should ease the learning curve for new users.

http://prefundia.com/blog/getting-to-100000-users-paypals-60m-referral-program-that-nobody-knows-about/
PayPal spent $60 million on their referral program.

User adoption is expensive and, with exception of flukes like Tumbler and Facebook, many companies had to spend $10s of millions to get their users.   From this, you can see why crypto has struggled with mass adoption.  Bitcoin foundation barely has any money and Ethereum itself only raised like $20 million and promptly spent it all.  To get all the Joes and Janes on board, you probably have to spend $50+ million on just marketing / advertisement and wisely at that.



I think NEM will be the first crypto project to have a world class marketing budget.  There's 2 marketing funds added up to 450,000,000 XEM.  Developers / non-profit has to wait until $1,350,000,000 marketcap or $0.15 XEM and then they'll have like $67 million to utilize.  $67 million could fund a few 30-second TV ads, probably do a ton of YouTube and social media ads, product placements,  interviews on popular talk radio, et cetera.  


 
To think Ethereum has already hit that marketcap but they were too amateur, inexperienced and lacked pre-launch foresight to think about long-term marketing & advertisement.


Thanks for a nice post.  Cheesy

Remember that if Ethereum can gain 1 billion marketcap with a completley non user friendly command line wallet then we can do well with what we have! Cheesy

The thing about Ethereum is the extreme hype and marketing. Nem has a better technology than Bitcoin, but that won't overcome the Bitcoin brand.

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August 16, 2016, 10:26:49 PM
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The thing about Ethereum is the extreme hype and marketing. Nem has a better technology than Bitcoin, but that won't overcome the Bitcoin brand.

What NEM needs is more community. I hear about things going on in the Far East, but this is the prime thread in the English speaking world and there are often several hours between posts.

The nem.io forum might manage one or two new threads a day with the wind behind it and the reddit sub has less than 200 subscribers.

There are total junk coins with way, way more conversation swirling around them.

 It doesn't need pumps. It needs more interest. It must have attracted plenty of passing interest by now but it's still not sticking and I'm not sure why.

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August 17, 2016, 12:34:16 AM
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The thing about Ethereum is the extreme hype and marketing. Nem has a better technology than Bitcoin, but that won't overcome the Bitcoin brand.

What NEM needs is more community. I hear about things going on in the Far East, but this is the prime thread in the English speaking world and there are often several hours between posts.

The nem.io forum might manage one or two new threads a day with the wind behind it and the reddit sub has less than 200 subscribers.

There are total junk coins with way, way more conversation swirling around them.

 It doesn't need pumps. It needs more interest. It must have attracted plenty of passing interest by now but it's still not sticking and I'm not sure why.


Well hopefully things will change, I do know that alot is happening in Japan and parts of Asia, but i have no idea whats being said on alot of the pages without translating them properly.

I think its only a matter of time before things pick up in western countries, but with a legal organization established, this should hopefully direct more funds towards marketing and hopefully see more events and seminars held at different locations.

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August 18, 2016, 06:33:34 AM
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There is breaking news about NEM.

http://bccc.global/ja/articles/356.html
BCCC, which includes Takao Asyama and Lon Wong from NEM, now has 80 companies signed up.  This is good exposure for NEM.


http://japan.zdnet.com/article/35087646/
BCCC is also offering a blockchain class at 60,000 YEN.  Google translate is saying about teaching them to use a "domestic blockchain" - New Economy Movement?  Grin
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August 18, 2016, 06:45:01 AM
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There is breaking news about NEM.

http://bccc.global/ja/articles/356.html
BCCC, which includes Takao Asyama and Lon Wong from NEM, now has 80 companies signed up.  This is good exposure for NEM.


http://japan.zdnet.com/article/35087646/
BCCC is also offering a blockchain class at 60,000 YEN.  Google translate is saying about teaching them to use a "domestic blockchain" - New Economy Movement?  Grin

WOW big news!

Probably more to come too....   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

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August 18, 2016, 06:51:14 AM
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more to come indeed


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August 18, 2016, 07:01:19 AM
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more to come indeed


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August 18, 2016, 07:32:41 AM
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There is breaking news about NEM.

http://bccc.global/ja/articles/356.html
BCCC, which includes Takao Asyama and Lon Wong from NEM, now has 80 companies signed up.  This is good exposure for NEM.


http://japan.zdnet.com/article/35087646/
BCCC is also offering a blockchain class at 60,000 YEN.  Google translate is saying about teaching them to use a "domestic blockchain" - New Economy Movement?  Grin

What is it with NEM that it keeps delivering the goods? I am so happy for this community that you are getting things done. From a NXT asset to a full fledged platform getting noticed and used in Asia. NEM sure has gone far from its humble beginnings. Congrats to you all. I wish I bought the NEM assets in NXT. But I was too scared to risk it. Sad

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August 18, 2016, 08:14:32 AM
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There is breaking news about NEM.

http://bccc.global/ja/articles/356.html
BCCC, which includes Takao Asyama and Lon Wong from NEM, now has 80 companies signed up.  This is good exposure for NEM.


http://japan.zdnet.com/article/35087646/
BCCC is also offering a blockchain class at 60,000 YEN.  Google translate is saying about teaching them to use a "domestic blockchain" - New Economy Movement?  Grin

What is it with NEM that it keeps delivering the goods? I am so happy for this community that you are getting things done. From a NXT asset to a full fledged platform getting noticed and used in Asia. NEM sure has gone far from its humble beginnings. Congrats to you all. I wish I bought the NEM assets in NXT. But I was too scared to risk it. Sad

There's also a lot happening in Malaysia
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August 18, 2016, 08:40:43 AM
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There is breaking news about NEM.

http://bccc.global/ja/articles/356.html
BCCC, which includes Takao Asyama and Lon Wong from NEM, now has 80 companies signed up.  This is good exposure for NEM.


http://japan.zdnet.com/article/35087646/
BCCC is also offering a blockchain class at 60,000 YEN.  Google translate is saying about teaching them to use a "domestic blockchain" - New Economy Movement?  Grin

What is it with NEM that it keeps delivering the goods? I am so happy for this community that you are getting things done. From a NXT asset to a full fledged platform getting noticed and used in Asia. NEM sure has gone far from its humble beginnings. Congrats to you all. I wish I bought the NEM assets in NXT. But I was too scared to risk it. Sad

There's also a lot happening in Malaysia

XEM is an awesome coin, keeps delivering, no wonder it is a top 10 coin. Top 10 coin should like XEM.  Cheesy Cheesy
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August 18, 2016, 11:04:14 AM
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NEM devs deliver  Cheesy

NEM, THE SECURE, SCALABLE BLOCKCHAIN [NEM.IO] [T.ME/NEMRED]
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August 18, 2016, 01:02:52 PM
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None of these coins are getting higher because of some "mobile" element, the defining moment that can be said is when a coin has achieved mass adoption.

Otherwise it's just devs and the same people who bought into the coin pumping it up.

Mobile app is good marketing and, a well-designed one, should ease the learning curve for new users.

http://prefundia.com/blog/getting-to-100000-users-paypals-60m-referral-program-that-nobody-knows-about/
PayPal spent $60 million on their referral program.

User adoption is expensive and, with exception of flukes like Tumbler and Facebook, many companies had to spend $10s of millions to get their users.   From this, you can see why crypto has struggled with mass adoption.  Bitcoin foundation barely has any money and Ethereum itself only raised like $20 million and promptly spent it all.  To get all the Joes and Janes on board, you probably have to spend $50+ million on just marketing / advertisement and wisely at that.



I think NEM will be the first crypto project to have a world class marketing budget.  There's 2 marketing funds added up to 450,000,000 XEM.  Developers / non-profit has to wait until $1,350,000,000 marketcap or $0.15 XEM and then they'll have like $67 million to utilize.  $67 million could fund a few 30-second TV ads, probably do a ton of YouTube and social media ads, product placements,  interviews on popular talk radio, et cetera.  


 
To think Ethereum has already hit that marketcap but they were too amateur, inexperienced and lacked pre-launch foresight to think about long-term marketing & advertisement.


I think facebook caught fire in it's early days, it filled that void with myspace declining, and much of it's growth was through word of mouth. People knew others who had it, and since it was the new "big" thing it caught on in a big way.

I think the mobile wallet will be huge if/when it comes out, as long as it doesn't take years to arrive. If it's mobile, secure and easy to use that will be a big upward driving factor, people being able to buy/sell/trade from their phones is a giant advantage, especially since everyone has a mobile phone within a foot of them pretty much at all times.

A $1.35bn market cap would be huge.. but I don't think there's enough room in crypto right now for something that large without something else huge taking a big tumble. At the present the real big boys are btc and eth, and it's hard to see anything taking them down to usurp that market share without some kind of catastrophic event happening for either. Hell, even the dao fiasco didn't hurt etc much, it has recovered quite nicely.

I guess time will tell what the future has to offer, I like what nem has going for it, but am cautiously optimistic about it's future. History has shown that people don't always go with the brightest and best.. hopefully nem will break that trend.
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August 18, 2016, 01:33:07 PM
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There is breaking news about NEM.

http://bccc.global/ja/articles/356.html
BCCC, which includes Takao Asyama and Lon Wong from NEM, now has 80 companies signed up.  This is good exposure for NEM.


http://japan.zdnet.com/article/35087646/
BCCC is also offering a blockchain class at 60,000 YEN.  Google translate is saying about teaching them to use a "domestic blockchain" - New Economy Movement?  Grin

sounds promising, are there some technical updates announced?
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August 18, 2016, 04:53:39 PM
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There is breaking news about NEM.

http://bccc.global/ja/articles/356.html
BCCC, which includes Takao Asyama and Lon Wong from NEM, now has 80 companies signed up.  This is good exposure for NEM.


http://japan.zdnet.com/article/35087646/
BCCC is also offering a blockchain class at 60,000 YEN.  Google translate is saying about teaching them to use a "domestic blockchain" - New Economy Movement?  Grin

These initiatives and their result is what will determine the value of XEM.
Community and world wide attention will come with it as a side effect.

After getting some early adopters on board, a snowball effect is possible as described by Geoffrey Moore in Crossing the Chasm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Chasm
Mandatory literature for technology and innovation projects. Also often used by VC's as their bible ;-)

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August 18, 2016, 06:14:29 PM
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There is breaking news about NEM.

http://bccc.global/ja/articles/356.html
BCCC, which includes Takao Asyama and Lon Wong from NEM, now has 80 companies signed up.  This is good exposure for NEM.


http://japan.zdnet.com/article/35087646/
BCCC is also offering a blockchain class at 60,000 YEN.  Google translate is saying about teaching them to use a "domestic blockchain" - New Economy Movement?  Grin

These initiatives and their result is what will determine the value of XEM.
Community and world wide attention will come with it as a side effect.

After getting some early adopters on board, a snowball effect is possible as described by Geoffrey Moore in Crossing the Chasm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Chasm
Mandatory literature for technology and innovation projects. Also often used by VC's as their bible ;-)

That's nice and all, but can someone translate this into english?
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August 18, 2016, 10:48:08 PM
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use Google Chrome and right click---Select TRANSLATE to ENGLISH

To the Moon XEM !!!!!!!!!!!
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