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July 15, 2014, 04:59:43 PM
Last edit: July 15, 2014, 05:24:33 PM by jonnybravo0311
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The voltage doesn't matter...

There are usually 15 and 20 amp circuits... 15a = 1800w 20a = 2400w

This machine will probably trip a 20a circuit... If I end up getting one I will have to use one plug from two circuits

Voltage matters (higher efficiency and more stable power). Its not just about the amps. I recently had my house updated to 300A total due to a recent fire caused by all my mining gears (overloaded the main meter) and I had six 20A breakers installed just for mining.

The SP30's come with two server PSU's, so you can split them between two circuits, but the voltage has a big impact. You can check the SP10 threads, no one on 110v get's anywhere near 1.4TH/s. I believe the highest I remember reading about was 1.3TH/s, and that was with someone blasting the a/c right in the intake fans to keep everything very cool and stabilize the voltage so some doesn't get lost as heat, and with a lot of fiddling around with the settings.


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Also, you should never max out your circuit breakers. Treat a 20A breaker as a 18A breaker. It's best to leave at least 10% headroom.
So it would be more like 18A * 110v = 1980w per circuit. The SP30's have two 1200w PSU's, presumably pulling 1300w each (they advertise 2500w total, I highly doubt that). So as long as you split between two different circuits, the amperage won't be an issue, but the voltage still will be.


In hindsight, I wish I had those guys install at least two 220v lines, I regret that -_-' It would've only cost me about $75 more at that time, now I would have to pay about $800 to have everything redone.
The first versions of the SP10 firmware limited the PSUs to 1100 watts on 110V power.  I own an SP10, May batch slow corner and I get a consistent 1.4TH/s out of it with the 1.5.2 firmware, and the tweak to remove the limiting of the PSU.  Believe me, I would love to have gotten one of the earlier ones that got anywhere from 1.5 - 1.6TH/s, but no such luck.

As for the SP30, if I do end up purchasing one, it's going to be hosted.  I've got a full breaker box, so if I wanted to get more power, I'd have to get the entire thing redone, and up my service from 200A to 300A, and then put in a few extra 240V/30A circuits and the Nema outlets.  Way more than I'm willing to invest for my mining gear.  Maybe in the future I'll consider it, but for now...

EDIT: By the way, bitmadrid, it's the 15th.  What's the final price you've negotiated?

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July 15, 2014, 07:06:12 PM
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The voltage doesn't matter...

There are usually 15 and 20 amp circuits... 15a = 1800w 20a = 2400w

This machine will probably trip a 20a circuit... If I end up getting one I will have to use one plug from two circuits

Voltage matters (higher efficiency and more stable power). Its not just about the amps. I recently had my house updated to 300A total due to a recent fire caused by all my mining gears (overloaded the main meter) and I had six 20A breakers installed just for mining.

The SP30's come with two server PSU's, so you can split them between two circuits, but the voltage has a big impact. You can check the SP10 threads, no one on 110v get's anywhere near 1.4TH/s. I believe the highest I remember reading about was 1.3TH/s, and that was with someone blasting the a/c right in the intake fans to keep everything very cool and stabilize the voltage so some doesn't get lost as heat, and with a lot of fiddling around with the settings.


EDIT:

Also, you should never max out your circuit breakers. Treat a 20A breaker as a 18A breaker. It's best to leave at least 10% headroom.
So it would be more like 18A * 110v = 1980w per circuit. The SP30's have two 1200w PSU's, presumably pulling 1300w each (they advertise 2500w total, I highly doubt that). So as long as you split between two different circuits, the amperage won't be an issue, but the voltage still will be.


In hindsight, I wish I had those guys install at least two 220v lines, I regret that -_-' It would've only cost me about $75 more at that time, now I would have to pay about $800 to have everything redone.
The first versions of the SP10 firmware limited the PSUs to 1100 watts on 110V power.  I own an SP10, May batch slow corner and I get a consistent 1.4TH/s out of it with the 1.5.2 firmware, and the tweak to remove the limiting of the PSU.  Believe me, I would love to have gotten one of the earlier ones that got anywhere from 1.5 - 1.6TH/s, but no such luck.

As for the SP30, if I do end up purchasing one, it's going to be hosted.  I've got a full breaker box, so if I wanted to get more power, I'd have to get the entire thing redone, and up my service from 200A to 300A, and then put in a few extra 240V/30A circuits and the Nema outlets.  Way more than I'm willing to invest for my mining gear.  Maybe in the future I'll consider it, but for now...

EDIT: By the way, bitmadrid, it's the 15th.  What's the final price you've negotiated?


Oh thanks for letting me know that. I didn't know they were able to do that with a FW update. That makes me more confident to get an SP30.


Bring on the price war!
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July 15, 2014, 07:14:42 PM
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Oh thanks for letting me know that. I didn't know they were able to do that with a FW update. That makes me more confident to get an SP30.


Bring on the price war!
Yeah... if you've got an SP10 and are running it on 110V power, you can get rid of the PSU limit.  You have to SSH into the miner and just do the following:

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cd /etc
touch mg_ignore_110_fcc

You can see the tech blog post here on the SP-Tech site: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/technical-blog/14433873-version-1-4-2

Hope this helps... and gets you some extra hashing, too Smiley

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July 15, 2014, 10:11:05 PM
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$3,200 per unit would be a fair price giving a 90 day ROI: https://tradeblock.com/mining/a/ba679b3ec5

This does assume quite a low power / hosting charge.

The difficulty is just wrong there.

Can you elaborate further?
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July 16, 2014, 01:10:31 AM
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Have you got a final price yet?  Today is the 15th.  (mouth watering)  Is there a way to split a 220 plug?  Just have 1 for my dryer and wanted to split off of that when not in use.
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July 16, 2014, 03:43:49 AM
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Have you got a final price yet?  Today is the 15th.  (mouth watering)  Is there a way to split a 220 plug?  Just have 1 for my dryer and wanted to split off of that when not in use.

Yes, you can with this plug splitter http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001TO7130/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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July 16, 2014, 04:20:37 AM
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Oh thanks for letting me know that. I didn't know they were able to do that with a FW update. That makes me more confident to get an SP30.


Bring on the price war!
Yeah... if you've got an SP10 and are running it on 110V power, you can get rid of the PSU limit.  You have to SSH into the miner and just do the following:

Code:
cd /etc
touch mg_ignore_110_fcc

You can see the tech blog post here on the SP-Tech site: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/technical-blog/14433873-version-1-4-2

Hope this helps... and gets you some extra hashing, too Smiley


Thanks for the info, but I don't actually own a SP10, I was thinking about getting it, but never got it due to the limitation at that time.
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July 16, 2014, 05:30:04 AM
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Please count me in for the SP30 Group Buy.
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July 16, 2014, 06:09:19 AM
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Have you got a final price yet?  Today is the 15th.  (mouth watering)  Is there a way to split a 220 plug?  Just have 1 for my dryer and wanted to split off of that when not in use.

Hoping for an update soon. Price here is everything. I'm surprised we haven't had an update.
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July 16, 2014, 07:37:51 AM
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We say in my country ´ship that its arrival is delayed is loaded full of shit¨.
So the longer the time passes its more unlikely we will hear any good news or news at all.
I understand that SP tech is a serious company and all it wants is to sell but want more money for its items as any healthy thinking company.
As I have read from buyers before in this thread they will spent a specific amount of money.So the less units for most money is their goal.As at today used SP10 are sold on the bay for about 2300 USD
This kind of group buy, puts pressure in the company and finally they dont make any kind of agreement,  at least with someone that is not closelly related with the company....
So am unsure if we will hear any good price at least not until the first SP30 will be delivered.
August is only 15d ays away and the previous GB buyers are anxious.
I am anxious too to see what will happen....

Maybe Spondoolies if reads this place gives us a clue of their reaction.

 
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July 16, 2014, 04:04:40 PM
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Dear buyers,

I am currently awaiting reply from the manufacturer.

I feel unable to give a final price yet.

I understand that the situation in Israel is delicate.

I hope this has no influence on SPTech.



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July 16, 2014, 04:50:28 PM
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Dear buyers,

I am currently awaiting reply from the manufacturer.

I feel unable to give a final price yet.

I understand that the situation in Israel is delicate.

I hope this has no influence on SPTech.





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Did you hear from them?
So far more then 1 dozen missiles have passed through the iron dome.

any news at all?

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July 16, 2014, 04:53:43 PM
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I'm in for 5 for the right price which I don't think will happen Sad
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July 16, 2014, 05:05:01 PM
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Just got a spam mail from bitmadrid. (note the . at the end), the price quoted is too good to be  true. Please beware, he probably thought I am new to btc from my low post count.

You have just been sent a personal message by bitmadrid. on Bitcoin Forum.

IMPORTANT: Remember, this is just a notification. Please do not reply to this email.

The message they sent you was:

Hi guys,

I have finally had some feedback from Spondoolies-Tech.

Some great news and some not so great news unfortunately.

So starting with the great news, the price.

I now have a confirmed group buy discount price of 5.27BTC per unit inc. express shipping or 1 month free hosting.  They have stated this will be a significant saving over the normal retail price due to our early order and our ongoing support of the company.

The not so great news, availability.

They have stated they will only be in a position to offer the group buy a total of 40 units at the quoted price due to the significant demand in general for the product.

Due to limited availability this group buy will be run on a strict first come first served basis.

Should you wish to place an order the payment address for the group buy is :

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After payment please pm me the transaction I.D, your username and delivery address/hosting option.

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July 16, 2014, 05:31:08 PM
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no body send this guy any BTC
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July 16, 2014, 05:46:39 PM
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Just got a spam mail from bitmadrid. (note the . at the end), the price quoted is too good to be  true. Please beware, he probably thought I am new to btc from my low post count.

Just report the user to the Mods/Admins.

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July 16, 2014, 05:47:48 PM
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Dear buyers,

I am currently awaiting reply from the manufacturer.

I feel unable to give a final price yet.

I understand that the situation in Israel is delicate.

I hope this has no influence on SPTech.





Did they catch a missile at the plant?
Did you hear from them?
So far more then 1 dozen missiles have passed through the iron dome.

any news at all?

Well, since Spondoolies-Tech is currently online, I don't imagine anything happened to them personally, or any of their facilities.

@hawkfish007, gotta love the scammers... I'm wondering if posting that wallet address is such good idea... oh, and definitely report to mods.

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July 16, 2014, 06:55:48 PM
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Dear buyers,

I am currently awaiting reply from the manufacturer.

I feel unable to give a final price yet.

I understand that the situation in Israel is delicate.

I hope this has no influence on SPTech.





Did they catch a missile at the plant?
Did you hear from them?
So far more then 1 dozen missiles have passed through the iron dome.

any news at all?
Spoondoolies should be fine, last I heard the death toll was 1 Israeli and over 200 Palestinians. I think they are on the safe side of the border.
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July 16, 2014, 07:11:32 PM
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Shame we cant get them to swap places with the bfl team
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July 16, 2014, 08:47:33 PM
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Shame we cant get them to swap places with the bfl team

I hope you want to swap the 200 palestinians, with the BFL team Smiley
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