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June 18, 2014, 06:30:21 AM
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Hi there i am new at forum but not new at bitcoin..

I am seeing that the difficulty of bitcoin is increasing very fastly .. well i want to know is there any way that the difficulty can be stopped growing?

I mean if the owner of bitcoin satoshi nakamoto can stop the increasing of difficulty of bitcoin or not?

And why it is going any good reason? i just know it increase because of mining..
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June 18, 2014, 07:12:23 AM
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Hi there i am new at forum but not new at bitcoin..

I am seeing that the difficulty of bitcoin is increasing very fastly .. well i want to know is there any way that the difficulty can be stopped growing?

I mean if the owner of bitcoin satoshi nakamoto can stop the increasing of difficulty of bitcoin or not?

And why it is going any good reason? i just know it increase because of mining..
No, no one can stop the increment of difficulty. The difficulty is adjusted every 2016 blocks based on the time it took to find the previous 2016 blocks. If the hashrates is lower, the time taken to generate a block is slower, if the hashrate is higher, the time taken will be faster. The target of the time taken is 10minutes, it will adjust accordingly based on the speed of block generation. In order to stop the difficulty from growing, you will have to stop people from operating new ASIC miners and for it to decrease, people would have to shut down their ASIC. The increment of Bitcoin difficulty and block time is built into the protocol itself, unless it is forked, it is not possible to change it.

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June 18, 2014, 02:10:58 PM
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Hi there i am new at forum but not new at bitcoin..

I am seeing that the difficulty of bitcoin is increasing very fastly .. well i want to know is there any way that the difficulty can be stopped growing?

ranochigo already did a good job of explaining that the only way to keep the difficulty from growing is to stop all miners from turning on new equipment (or to collectively only turn on as much hash power as they turn off).  The only way to reduce difficulty is to get all miners collectively miners to turn off more hash power than they turn on.

I mean if the owner of bitcoin satoshi nakamoto can stop the increasing of difficulty of bitcoin or not?

Satoshi Nakamoto was the original creator of the Bitcoin protocol.  He released it into the public as open source software.  There is no "owner".  Anyone that wants to can run the software, and anyone that wants to can modify the copy of the software that they run.  The only way to change how the bitcoin protocol behaves is to convince EVERYBODY running the software to run different software that has different rules.

And why it is going any good reason?

Because of mining.

i just know it increase because of mining..

Oh.  You already knew that.  Ok.  Look back at ranochigo's post.  If that doesn't make it clear, let us know and I'll see if I can re-explain it.
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June 19, 2014, 11:36:05 AM
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It's going way too fast because there are so many miners today. I came into the mining game in mid March when the difficulty was 3,8xxxx, just a short 90 days ago. Mining hardware is now more affordable than it was just 5-6 months ago. It's a double edged sword. :/
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June 21, 2014, 12:29:19 AM
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Nope.  And why is it going?  Newer, more efficient hardware and this trend will continue for sometime imho

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June 21, 2014, 09:09:55 PM
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Satoshi can lower the difficulty whenever he wants Wink

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June 21, 2014, 10:12:29 PM
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Satoshi can lower the difficulty whenever he wants Wink

You're going to confuse the newbies.
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June 22, 2014, 08:57:58 AM
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Satoshi can lower the difficulty whenever he wants Wink

You're going to confuse the newbies.
Heck he had me confused till you chimed in there mister Wink

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June 22, 2014, 09:05:48 AM
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Satoshi can lower the difficulty whenever he wants Wink

You're going to confuse the newbies.
Heck he had me confused till you chimed in there mister Wink
How could he do so? He can't? 51% of the network would have to use new client with edited diff in order to make this possible, no?
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June 22, 2014, 02:05:03 PM
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Satoshi can lower the difficulty whenever he wants Wink

You're going to confuse the newbies.
In fact, Satoshi can sell his bitcoins. This can affect the cost of bitcoins and difficulty.
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June 23, 2014, 01:30:58 AM
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Satoshi can lower the difficulty whenever he wants Wink

You're going to confuse the newbies.
In fact, Satoshi can sell his bitcoins. This can affect the cost of bitcoins and difficulty.

Satoshi announcing a major flaw in bitcoin or claiming it to be worthless could have a similar effect, though after the amount of work he's put into it that's extremely unlikely (far more so than him simply reappearing and using some of the coins he mined).

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June 23, 2014, 01:58:51 AM
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Satoshi can lower the difficulty whenever he wants Wink

You're going to confuse the newbies.
Heck he had me confused till you chimed in there mister Wink
How could he do so? He can't? 51% of the network would have to use new client with edited diff in order to make this possible, no?
No, Satshosi has the power of veto within the depth of the Bitcoin prototcol. It is a little known sub-routine hard coded into cryptographic layers themselves and is known as the 'Kobayashi Maru subroutine'. If the Satsh unlocks it or adjusts it, the difficulty can be overcome releasing all 21million BTC in a shower of electronic love.

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June 23, 2014, 07:21:58 AM
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Bitcoin Difficult can stop increase if no one mining Bitcoin again
because i guess difficult speed depend of how many miner

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June 23, 2014, 07:25:24 AM
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Bitcoin Difficult can stop increase if no one mining Bitcoin again
because i guess difficult speed depend of how many miner
Actually, it is impossible for everyone to stop mining bitcoin. If no one mines it difficulty will decrease, difficulty will stay constant if the hashrates stays constant. Hashrates affect the network, not the amount of miners, one miner can have a few PH and increasing it every month and the difficulty will still increase.

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June 23, 2014, 10:15:46 AM
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June 23, 2014, 11:17:54 AM
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Satoshi can lower the difficulty whenever he wants Wink

You're going to confuse the newbies.
Heck he had me confused till you chimed in there mister Wink
How could he do so? He can't? 51% of the network would have to use new client with edited diff in order to make this possible, no?
No, Satshosi has the power of veto within the depth of the Bitcoin prototcol. It is a little known sub-routine hard coded into cryptographic layers themselves and is known as the 'Kobayashi Maru subroutine'. If the Satsh unlocks it or adjusts it, the difficulty can be overcome releasing all 21million BTC in a shower of electronic love.

i'm pretty sure this is a joke

otherwise we would need to trust satoshi, and we'd trust the backdoor to never be found.

which is completely the opposite of what bitcoin represents.
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June 23, 2014, 11:02:16 PM
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Satoshi can lower the difficulty whenever he wants Wink

You're going to confuse the newbies.
Heck he had me confused till you chimed in there mister Wink
How could he do so? He can't? 51% of the network would have to use new client with edited diff in order to make this possible, no?
No, Satshosi has the power of veto within the depth of the Bitcoin prototcol. It is a little known sub-routine hard coded into cryptographic layers themselves and is known as the 'Kobayashi Maru subroutine'. If the Satsh unlocks it or adjusts it, the difficulty can be overcome releasing all 21million BTC in a shower of electronic love.

i'm pretty sure this is a joke

otherwise we would need to trust satoshi, and we'd trust the that my backdoor to never be found.

which is completely the opposite of what bitcoin represents.

Just helpiong with a correftion that follows the theme.  Grin

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June 24, 2014, 02:46:26 PM
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hi all.
The thoughts of my own,
if diff higher if someday bitcoin will still be mined?
of course, whether there might be a newer generation of hardware anymore?
sorry this is just mind I imagined, I was confused to this,
diff the higher the chance is getting no results to mine bitcoin

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June 24, 2014, 02:50:41 PM
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hi all.
The thoughts of my own,
if diff higher if someday bitcoin will still be mined?
of course, whether there might be a newer generation of hardware anymore?
sorry this is just mind I imagined, I was confused to this,
diff the higher the chance is getting no results to mine bitcoin
Obviously, if the difficulty is higher, more people would be mining. New ASICs and people with free electricity would come into the mining game. If no one is mining, the difficulty should drop.

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June 25, 2014, 11:52:58 AM
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From above post i found a Question as he say that if no one mine the difficulty will drop down..? really .. then the miners have to stay afk for a week everyone.. and .. i fount some important information that .. on 2140 years the bitcoin mining will be ended so no new coin will be generated and the difficulty cannot be reversed.. There are 21million bitcoins are in the world successfully mined .. and 1.5 million or 1million btc is of satoshi nakamoto he is the owner of the bitcoin.. Smiley
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