[ANN] [Veil] Veilcoin x13 *Secure - Anonymous* On Bittrex! [VeilCall alpha]

[damiano]

Can anyone explain to me rationally and with evidence of why this coin is a scam?

I have yet to find any solid proof as well.

All the nub accounts are people who were left out at launch

[installer]

Can anyone explain to me rationally and with evidence of why this coin is a scam?

I have yet to find any solid proof as well.

All the nub accounts are people who were left out at launch

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i think its not to late begin to buy!!!

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[T2 Ultra]

After reading the FUD, i hope the dev can provide a detailed transaction of his premine cache. It will clear the premine scam.

[uaivj]

After reading the FUD, i hope the dev can provide a detailed transaction of his premine cache. It will clear the premine scam.

Everyone who is yelling scam should take into consideration just how much the premine would be worth... 24000(premine) x 595(current BTC price) x .0012 (current Veil price)=  $17136.    This is hardly the the giant fraud everyone is making accusations of.

I mined about 3400 coins before the coin made it onto Bittrex and sold most of them above .0025 and over 1000 of them above .003.  That was not the dev. selling up there it was me. 

Take this into consideration.  You should've known this coin would be a high priced coin on its exchange listing.  There were going to be very few coins created in the first few days and the low liquidity meant it would be costly to anyone who wanted to buy this coin.  In addition the longer block time and 120 block maturity meant anyone who had not been mining from pretty much the first few hours after the launch would not be able to transfer their coins to the exchange to dump.  That was my logic for getting involved, plus the premise of anonymous VOIP call your wallet and the ability to change your number whenever you wanted (add a new address) seem pretty interesting if it actually gets pulled off.

Come on people get a clue.  This is a game.  You choose to play or not.  If you don't want to get involved that is your choice.  But why do you want to sit on the sideline and piss and moan so much?  I think all the trolls across all the boards are just jealous of the people who actually make money playing the "crypto-game". 

There is no free money everything is a RISK.  Except that and play of please just shut up.

FYI anyone who "invests" in altcoins with money they cannot afford to lose is a total fool.  This is a game not an investment.  If you want to invest in crypto currencies but have limited funds, take what you can afford to lose and put it in BTC, and wait for a BTC ETF(exchange traded fund) to get listed one on the Stock Exchanges in the US.  There are 2 BTC ETFs pending SEC approval if/once they get listed they will become a self fulfilling prophecy and drive BTC up (SEC approval is a long process at least 9-18 months out).

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[Kn_os]

After reading the FUD, i hope the dev can provide a detailed transaction of his premine cache. It will clear the premine scam.

Everyone who is yelling scam should take into consideration just how much the premine would be worth... 24000(premine) x 595(current BTC price) x .0012 (current Veil price)=  $17136.    This is hardly the the giant fraud everyone is making accusations of.

It is around 30 btc for 1 day photoshop work. It is good proffit. If he sold it higher 0.002 it is 60 btc which is very good proffit.

[Kn_os]

Come on people get a clue.  This is a game.  You choose to play or not.  If you don't want to get involved that is your choice.  But why do you want to sit on the sideline and piss and moan so much?  I think all the trolls across all the boards are just jealous of the people who actually make money playing the "crypto-game". 

Sure it is a game, but game should be fair. Premine is like you come to play roulette where croupier can upturn table and grab all money in any second. Need to get rid of premine coins already.

[Wolf Rainer]

Why people telling this is scam?

premine = scam
instamine ninja launch = scam

1000th copy/pass coin is just s^%t

All coins are premined today and copy of another coins.

[borzov]

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[damiano]

Getting dumped hard

[tx42]

Come on people get a clue.  This is a game.  You choose to play or not.  If you don't want to get involved that is your choice.  But why do you want to sit on the sideline and piss and moan so much?  I think all the trolls across all the boards are just jealous of the people who actually make money playing the "crypto-game". 

Sure it is a game, but game should be fair. Premine is like you come to play roulette where croupier can upturn table and grab all money in any second. Need to get rid of premine coins already.

I have no veil and probably never will, so I say this with complete objectivity:

Make a zero premine, Kn_os, or GTFO.

[MEGAman]

I think that "tor phone" (IMAGINE THE LAG ON THAT!!), botched screenshot, and side-splitting explanation that followed help to make this a good nominee for the "funniest scam attempt" in my upcoming "2014 Altcoin Awards" presentation. SNL should hire this guy as a writer to make the show funny again. He doesn't even need to try to be funny - he just is!

 

[Kuttingcorners]

After reading the FUD, i hope the dev can provide a detailed transaction of his premine cache. It will clear the premine scam.

Everyone who is yelling scam should take into consideration just how much the premine would be worth... 24000(premine) x 595(current BTC price) x .0012 (current Veil price)=  $17136.    This is hardly the the giant fraud everyone is making accusations of.

I mined about 3400 coins before the coin made it onto Bittrex and sold most of them above .0025 and over 1000 of them above .003.  That was not the dev. selling up there it was me. 

Take this into consideration.  You should've known this coin would be a high priced coin on its exchange listing.  There were going to be very few coins created in the first few days and the low liquidity meant it would be costly to anyone who wanted to buy this coin.  In addition the longer block time and 120 block maturity meant anyone who had not been mining from pretty much the first few hours after the launch would not be able to transfer their coins to the exchange to dump.  That was my logic for getting involved, plus the premise of anonymous VOIP call your wallet and the ability to change your number whenever you wanted (add a new address) seem pretty interesting if it actually gets pulled off.

Come on people get a clue.  This is a game.  You choose to play or not.  If you don't want to get involved that is your choice.  But why do you want to sit on the sideline and piss and moan so much?  I think all the trolls across all the boards are just jealous of the people who actually make money playing the "crypto-game". 

There is no free money everything is a RISK.  Except that and play of please just shut up.





FYI anyone who "invests" in altcoins with money they cannot afford to lose is a total fool.  This is a game not an investment.  If you want to invest in crypto currencies but have limited funds, take what you can afford to lose and put it in BTC, and wait for a BTC ETF(exchange traded fund) to get listed one on the Stock Exchanges in the US.  There are 2 BTC ETFs pending SEC approval if/once they get listed they will become a self fulfilling prophecy and drive BTC up (SEC approval is a long process at least 9-18 months out).

this is getting stupid now. how many accounts on this site do you have mister newbie.? all yoiu idiots with 30 accounts and under ten messages what the fuck are you hiding? or are you trying to make your coins look overly popular? so whats the other accounts you use?

[uaivj]

After reading the FUD, i hope the dev can provide a detailed transaction of his premine cache. It will clear the premine scam.

Everyone who is yelling scam should take into consideration just how much the premine would be worth... 24000(premine) x 595(current BTC price) x .0012 (current Veil price)=  $17136.    This is hardly the the giant fraud everyone is making accusations of.

I mined about 3400 coins before the coin made it onto Bittrex and sold most of them above .0025 and over 1000 of them above .003.  That was not the dev. selling up there it was me.  

Take this into consideration.  You should've known this coin would be a high priced coin on its exchange listing.  There were going to be very few coins created in the first few days and the low liquidity meant it would be costly to anyone who wanted to buy this coin.  In addition the longer block time and 120 block maturity meant anyone who had not been mining from pretty much the first few hours after the launch would not be able to transfer their coins to the exchange to dump.  That was my logic for getting involved, plus the premise of anonymous VOIP call your wallet and the ability to change your number whenever you wanted (add a new address) seem pretty interesting if it actually gets pulled off.

Come on people get a clue.  This is a game.  You choose to play or not.  If you don't want to get involved that is your choice.  But why do you want to sit on the sideline and piss and moan so much?  I think all the trolls across all the boards are just jealous of the people who actually make money playing the "crypto-game".  







FYI anyone who "invests" in altcoins with money they cannot afford to lose is a total fool.  This is a game not an investment.  If you want to invest in crypto currencies but have limited funds, take what you can afford to lose and put it in BTC, and wait for a BTC ETF(exchange traded fund) to get listed one on the Stock Exchanges in the US.  There are 2 BTC ETFs pending SEC approval if/once they get listed they will become a self fulfilling prophecy and drive BTC up (SEC approval is a long process at least 9-18 months out).

this is getting stupid now. how many accounts on this site do you have mister newbie.? all yoiu idiots with 30 accounts and under ten messages what the fuck are you hiding? or are you trying to make your coins look overly popular? so whats the other accounts you use?

I have better things to do then post all day. I'm not backing this coin up, my issue is with all the people making sound like this is the biggest scam in history.  Shit, probably 19 out of 20 new coin launches are a scam.  Any coin that launches without its features already in place is probably a scam, that's common sense.  We mine and trade these things knowing that.  I don't care about the premines, in order for me to make any money with altcoins someone needs to bring them to market.  I'm just sick of all the crybabies who want to make money trading crypto-currencies but don't have a clue as to what is really going on.  This is all a game.  These are not investments.  
There is no free money everything is a RISK.

[MacHead2006]

On other hand If I had real VeilCall I could make you think that I don`t have it.
I buy coins cheap and than release VeilCall. Profit !!! Not noble but who cares.   

[coincrow]

I think that "tor phone" (IMAGINE THE LAG ON THAT!!), botched screenshot, and side-splitting explanation that followed help to make this a good nominee for the "funniest scam attempt" in my upcoming "2014 Altcoin Awards" presentation. SNL should hire this guy as a writer to make the show funny again. He doesn't even need to try to be funny - he just is!

 

^^ funny shit 

[komodovpn]

Coin dead yet?
Dev gone yet?
You people dump yet?

[kulin3422]

Dev sold out the premine coin and gone!
It's a scam!
Just go before it goes to 0

[xandrino]

Come on people get a clue.  This is a game.  You choose to play or not.  If you don't want to get involved that is your choice.  But why do you want to sit on the sideline and piss and moan so much?  I think all the trolls across all the boards are just jealous of the people who actually make money playing the "crypto-game". 

Sure it is a game, but game should be fair. Premine is like you come to play roulette where croupier can upturn table and grab all money in any second. Need to get rid of premine coins already.

Sorry buddy but u are so wrong about "Game should be Fair"

if u take out regulation in the stock markets, do u think the stock trading "game" would be more fair, or less ?

All games are games which means the best exploiter of current conditions fares best. Do it within the rules, get brownie points. Do it by bending the rules, or breaking them outright without getting caught, and u're probably destined to be politician XD

Now for crypto, theres no regulation at all so why even mention *fair* ?

and honestly, uaivj just shared a wake up call, so pay attention

fwiw, im losing money on this coin but its all good.. i'm still learning and the money i lose here is measured, small amounts i scrounged from mining other coins and whatnot. I'm not going to lose my meal ticket coz of this coin, and neither should anybody else, if they play the game properly.

best of luck to all XD