The Armory - Weapon Marketplace

[miscreanity]

Good thing none of this shit matters now that you can use a cheap 3d printer to make your own gun

Seriously.

[Jurek]

Europeans are bitching, as always on that matter

[stevegee58]

Europeans are bitching, as always on that matter

Well, there are plenty of Americans who feel the same way.  You can say good riddance, glad to see them gone etc etc, but some kind of weapons marketplace will start again.  There is a demand for firearms in a free, open marketplace; someone else with a different business model will take the Armory's place eventually.  There's not a thing anyone can really do about it.

[layyen]

nothing new.. you can buy it on black market personaly, or via armony through tor...

dont think it makes something worse... because of, if you want to buy it, you can do it... the same is about SR

[stevegee58]

Yeah, fact is that bad guys get guns all the time quite easily without paperwork, just cash and carry.  The Armory was basically no help at all.  Hardly anyone was using the site.

[kiba]

No offense, but weapons sold on the Armory website are exppppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeensive.

[AndrewBUD]

No offense, but weapons sold on the Armory website are exppppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeensive.

So are the drugs... You are paying a premium for a service. SR charges 10% ontop of what a vendor asks. plus the vendor asking more for having to ship the unit.

[stevegee58]

No offense, but weapons sold on the Armory website are exppppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeensive.

No offense, but no one's looking for a deal on The Armory.  They're looking to purchase off-the-books firearms.  Those carry a premium.

[IveBeenBit]

Yeah, fact is that bad guys get guns all the time quite easily without paperwork, just cash and carry.  The Armory was basically no help at all.  Hardly anyone was using the site.

This.

As someone who likes guns and likes privacy, I saw no real benefit to having the Armory. In most states in the US, you can get what you want and do so privately or semi-privately, and completely legally. We're lucky to have some REALLY powerful lobbyists that have successfully hampered the government's tracking of firearms ownership.

The only thing I could have seen the Armory being good for would be things like illegal full-auto conversion kits, and the demand for those is pretty small.

I like to point out that when the Washington DC "sniper" was operating...the "sniper" had the cops and government at wit's end and they were revealed as being powerless to stop them. They sent agents out to local gun stores in the states surrounding DC and had to go through all sales records BY HAND looking for gun sales that matched the caliber of the bullets they had found, then had to presumably do background checks, investigations and personal interviews of people who had bought those weapons. The manpower to pull that off was staggering. And that was just for guns bought from a dealer. The private sale market will give you another layer of privacy. So the Armory really wasn't offering much that wasn't offered before. Shit...who is going to pay 2X market value for a gun with the serial number filed off, so that if a cop one day sees that gun you are in a world of hurt? Just buy the same gun from a reputable dealer, for almost as much privacy at half the price and without the legal liabilities attached to it.

I agree that it's good that the Armory is closing. It will be good PR for bitcoins and will hopefully keep some of the "ZOMG! GUNS!" pantywaist types from freaking out so much.

[hazek]

This.

As someone who likes guns and likes privacy, I saw no real benefit to having the Armory. In most states in the US, you can get what you want and do so privately or semi-privately, and completely legally. We're lucky to have some REALLY powerful lobbyists that have successfully hampered the government's tracking of firearms ownership.

The only thing I could have seen the Armory being good for would be things like illegal full-auto conversion kits, and the demand for those is pretty small.

Are you perhaps one of those ignorant people who thinks USA is the whole planet? There are other countries, you know, where not only are you tracked if you manage to get a gun but in most cases they forbid you with the threat of violence to even get one.

[IveBeenBit]

Are you perhaps one of those ignorant people who thinks USA is the whole planet? There are other countries, you know, where not only are you tracked if you manage to get a gun but in most cases they forbid you with the threat of violence to even get one.

No, smartass, but I recognize that 80% of exchange volume is in USD and that every time I saw weapons for sale on The Armory, they were coming from the US. Rather than write a 4 page post covering every possible contingency, I wrote a couple paragraphs covering over 80% of all contingencies. Thanks for your concern about my ignorance, though.

http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/volumepie/

[TheButterZone]

Good riddance! That is all

Indeed! God forbid someone is able to purchase a firearm without their government's knowledge.

[BadBitcoin (James Sutton)]

one thing that bugs me about bitcoin is things like this....

anarchy and liberty are two different things

Liberty is a more general term while anarchy, in its original and more accurate usages ( e.g. it does not really mean some kind of violent chaotic social disorder ),
is more specific, i.e. "freedom from state coercion".  

So you no doubt would feel that states/governments have the right to limit the ability of its citizens to purchase weapons?
An anarchist may ask if you truly have something like liberty and freedom if states determine for you what you can and
cannot own... while giving themselves the right to own and use weapons and violence as they pretty much please in the
maintenance of their own power and control.

Having a government keep tabs on who owns what guns helps solve crime? maybe...
16 year olds should not be allowed own a fully automatic guns? maybe...

Its not like it was impossible to buy unregistered guns b4 bitcoin, so i guess this doesn't really make a difference.

but still, common... "drugs, guns, and gambling for anyone and everyone!" is this our new slogan?

I for one accept this new paradigm shift, for more information please look at my name, also I've bought things from SR GET AT ME FBI.

EDIT: I am so edgy.

[AndrewBUD]

The Armory is no more.. It's gone....

[mc_lovin]

The Armory is no more.. It's gone....

Sooner or later, another tor service will come to fill it's place I bet.

[AndrewBUD]

The Armory is no more.. It's gone....

Sooner or later, another tor service will come to fill it's place I bet.

Probably already has. No ones cares though... I feel that if The Armory attached to SR didn't work I doubt anything else will...... Not a very big market... Smart people know better I hope

[bitpop]

There IS another one

[unclescrooge]

There IS another one

Really?

[unclescrooge]

Oh I thought this site was dead. Thanks for the link

[tonto]

I don't suppose someone could *cough* put the .onion address in my inbox *cough* *cough* could they?