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July 17, 2014, 07:11:38 PM |
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I'm nearly 100% certain that his disappearance had nothing to do with the OP's ~$2800, or whatever.
You're talking about a guy who has a long history of hunting down the type of people that do what you are accusing him of, and exposing them. A guy who has made no effort to disguise his personal identity or motivations. He has also been entrusted with far more money than that by other forum members and moderators, and made many indications that his own personal dealings involve far greater sums of money. His frequent posting on these forums demonstrate that being a member on bitcointalk is a big part of his daily life. His forum identity alone could be sold for more than $2800. He's a smart dude, and there's no way that all of his effort over the course of the last few years was so that he might capitalize on one person's trust in a minor transaction (relatively speaking) and then abandoning it all. I can see how it makes sense to the victim, but there's just no way.
I'm sincerely hoping he's on vacation, because the alternative explanations are not good.
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ccollectables (OP)
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July 17, 2014, 10:22:58 PM
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I'm nearly 100% certain that his disappearance had nothing to do with the OP's ~$2800, or whatever.
You're talking about a guy who has a long history of hunting down the type of people that do what you are accusing him of, and exposing them. A guy who has made no effort to disguise his personal identity or motivations. He has also been entrusted with far more money than that by other forum members and moderators, and made many indications that his own personal dealings involve far greater sums of money. His frequent posting on these forums demonstrate that being a member on bitcointalk is a big part of his daily life. His forum identity alone could be sold for more than $2800. He's a smart dude, and there's no way that all of his effort over the course of the last few years was so that he might capitalize on one person's trust in a minor transaction (relatively speaking) and then abandoning it all. I can see how it makes sense to the victim, but there's just no way.
I'm sincerely hoping he's on vacation, because the alternative explanations are not good.
I agree with pretty much everything you have wrote which is the reason that I have been so patient on this, at this point I feel there is really no other valid reason for this other than he is ripping me off. |
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JorgeStolfi
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July 17, 2014, 10:54:54 PM |
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I agree with pretty much everything you have wrote which is the reason that I have been so patient on this, at this point I feel there is really no other valid reason for this other than he is ripping me off period
You wrote "his sudden refusal to accept a phone call from me", but a more accurate description of the facts may be "no one is answering the phone at his home,". Is that so? |
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July 18, 2014, 12:05:57 AM |
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He's put his info out there waayyy tooo many times to count for this to NOT be something else like a personal emergency. I wish someone could verify his health/well being. IIRC he was not a young guy (no offense PG) and he could be in the hospital somewhere. I wish we had some local BTC folks out within the Sandwich IL area to confirm if he's in a hospital or at least okay.
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ccollectables (OP)
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July 18, 2014, 12:13:20 AM |
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I agree with pretty much everything you have wrote which is the reason that I have been so patient on this, at this point I feel there is really no other valid reason for this other than he is ripping me off period
You wrote "his sudden refusal to accept a phone call from me", but a more accurate description of the facts may be "no one is answering the phone at his home,". Is that so? That is correct, although it is a cell phone and not a home phone. I do believe that the timing points toward fraud, but do admit that there is a possibility that PG has not purposely detained my funds which is the reason that I did not call him out as a scammer in the op. I posted in this section of the forum as it seemed to be a section that he frequented and did seem to fit the subject matter better than other sections of this site. On another note, the "period" at the end of my last comment was meant to be a "." and not the word period, I was using voice to text on my phone for that post. I will edit now to reflect this and I believe it changes the harshness of the message slightly. |
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ccollectables (OP)
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July 18, 2014, 12:16:56 AM |
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He's put his info out there waayyy tooo many times to count for this to NOT be something else like a personal emergency. I wish someone could verify his health/well being. IIRC he was not a young guy (no offense PG) and he could be in the hospital somewhere. I wish we had some local BTC folks out within the Sandwich IL area to confirm if he's in a hospital or at least okay.
I feel like somebody as well know as PG was in this and other communities most likely would have been reported somewhere if this were related to a health or other personal emergency. Regardless this has been turned over to authorities who will most certainly report back quickly if this ends up being health or other personal emergency related. I will update thread with any new developments as they happen (as legally allowed). |
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July 18, 2014, 12:25:37 AM |
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Tell you what, I am so certain that PG is not a scammer that I will personally back him on this.
I know you have been very patient. Let's wait for a few more days. I really would like someone to go check on him. I fear something may have happened to him.
If this does not shake out in a couple more weeks (exact time TBD) I will pay the amount in BTC or cash directly to you and get the money back from him when he comes around.
We can work out the details by PM. I will need to see all the personal communications etc. before I pay you - and that is kind of a hassle - so lets wait a bit more, see if someone can check on him, etc.
But you will get paid.
Edit: sounds like you have sent someone (LE) to check on him so let's see what happens there.
Anyone live near him?
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ccollectables (OP)
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July 18, 2014, 12:35:43 AM |
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Tell you what, I am so certain that PG is not a scammer that I will personally back him on this.
I know you have been very patient. Let's wait for a few more days. I really would like someone to go check on him. I fear something may have happened to him.
If this does not shake out in a couple more weeks (exact time TBD) I will pay the amount in BTC or cash directly to you and get the money back from him when he comes around.
We can work out the details by PM. I will need to see all the personal communications etc. before I pay you - and that is kind of a hassle - so lets wait a bit more, see if someone can check on him, etc.
But you will get paid.
Edit: sounds like you have sent someone (LE) to check on him so let's see what happens there.
Anyone live near him?
I have contacted his local police and spoke to a detective in Sandwich, IL who was going to confirm that PG was who and lived where he claimed, I have not filed any sort of charges yet and would be willing to discuss your offer in pm before doing so if you truly wish to. I have no problems providing any communication between PG and myself relating to this matter. |
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July 18, 2014, 12:36:06 AM |
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You wrote "his sudden refusal to accept a phone call from me", but a more accurate description of the facts may be "no one is answering the phone at his home,". Is that so?
That is correct, although it is a cell phone and not a home phone. Do you think that he knew that it was you calling? (E. g. because you had called him from the same phone before.) Have you tried calling him from a phone that he cannot recognize as yours? Has anyone else tried to call him? If he is not answering *any* calls, then other explanations seem much more likely. |
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ccollectables (OP)
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July 18, 2014, 12:39:53 AM |
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You wrote "his sudden refusal to accept a phone call from me", but a more accurate description of the facts may be "no one is answering the phone at his home,". Is that so?
That is correct, although it is a cell phone and not a home phone. Do you think that he knew that it was you calling? (E. g. because you had called him from the same phone before.) Have you tried calling him from a phone that he cannot recognize as yours? Has anyone else tried to call him? If he is not answering *any* calls, then other explanations seem much more likely. I have always called from the same number, one he definitely knows is mine as he would answer with my name whenever I called. I have also left multiple voice messages asking him to update me on the situation. |
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July 18, 2014, 12:42:56 AM |
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I'm really starting to fear we will have a RIP thread soon  I hope he will post something in the next few days... |
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July 18, 2014, 12:54:06 AM |
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I have posted link to thread where miner was auctioned off and details of the issues, what other proof would you like me to post?
He didn't ditch this forum over $3,000. Please do let us know if you hear anything from him. I liked that guy and I regret ever being rude to him. |
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July 18, 2014, 02:50:57 AM |
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Hard to truly stick up for anyone in the cryptocurrency world, but I feel confident in saying this is not like Bruno. I have done several transactions with him and worked with him on the charities he runs. Scamming is the antithesis of his actions, imo. I am sure it will all get resolved soon. I believe I have his current number, I will try giving him a call tomorrow to find out if he is ok.
Hang in there, OP.
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July 18, 2014, 03:07:16 AM |
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Is it possible he likes the attention of being missing ?
some people are like that. some of you are getting abit carried away.
people live lives, maybe he has stuff going on. albeit not like him.
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July 18, 2014, 06:13:21 PM |
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just wait for a few more days i really hope that he is ok
can someone send me a pm of his number hen i will try to call him right now to check if he will answer the phone
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July 18, 2014, 06:22:27 PM |
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I have talked to him. He is OK. He is not at home right now. He admitted that he does owe the money and appologized for ignoring you.
PG and I are working on a deal to get the debt paid.
Stand by.
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ccollectables (OP)
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July 18, 2014, 06:56:51 PM |
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I have talked to him. He is OK. He is not at home right now. He admitted that he does owe the money and appologized for ignoring you.
PG and I are working on a deal to get the debt paid.
Stand by.
thank you for looking into this and giving an update for me. I truly hope that everything is okay with him, I really just want this to be settled and do not wish anything bad on anyone. |
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forever21
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July 18, 2014, 07:05:06 PM |
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I have talked to him. He is OK. He is not at home right now. He admitted that he does owe the money and appologized for ignoring you.
PG and I are working on a deal to get the debt paid.
Stand by.
good to know that he is still kicking  |
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July 18, 2014, 09:01:22 PM |
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I have talked to him. He is OK. He is not at home right now. He admitted that he does owe the money and appologized for ignoring you.
PG and I are working on a deal to get the debt paid.
Stand by.
good to know that he is still kicking great news |
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July 18, 2014, 10:34:22 PM |
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I have talked to him. He is OK. He is not at home right now. He admitted that he does owe the money and appologized for ignoring you.
PG and I are working on a deal to get the debt paid.
Stand by.
I liked PG and I found him amusing and useful. However, to be honest this makes him sound like a scammer, though perhaps he is now reconsidering walking away with the money. Unless there is a very good excuse (hospitalization, for example), it is sad to see a reputable member pull the take-the-money-and-disappear routine. |
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