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They will end very bad if they commited the error of bombing Russia, thats like suicide.
Georgia did the same mistake in 2008 (killing Russian peacekeepers in South Ossetia), and paid very dearly for that. Georgia 2008 and Ukraine 2014 are very similar. Both the governments fail to realize that the NATO is just using their soldiers as cannon fodder. In case of a war with Russia, the NATO will offer no support at all, just like what happened in 2008. They will end very bad if they commited the error of bombing Russia, thats like suicide.
Russia is a military superpower, it isn't as strong as it was 30 years ago, but still very strong. Any country that tries to attack Russia (or any other superpower) is making a mistake Ukrainian probably hoping US will intervene. Georgia incident should teach them not to rely on US and Europe so much. I would not count on Obama using the US military Agreed. There is 0 appetite for military deployments by the US. The outcry over Libya and the scuttled plan to meddle in Syria showed that. I wasn't saying that there is not appetite for military deployment in the US but rather that Obama is not going to use our military for political reasons |
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Nemo1024
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July 09, 2014, 07:32:03 AM |
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More shelling of Russian territory: http://rusvesna.su/news/1404855232 |
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July 09, 2014, 12:57:52 PM |
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Foreign media reports shown damaged Russian border-crossing point to Ukrainehttp://en.itar-tass.com/world/739708“It was the most popular checkpoint in the Rostov Region that let through up to 7,000 people and thousands of vehicles daily,” an official says
ROSTOV-ON-DON, July 09. /ITAR-TASS/. Russia’s Novoshakhtinsk multi-way border-crossing point to Ukraine, which was recently damaged as a result of shelling from the Ukrainian side, has been shown to 65 foreign journalists representing some 30 countries.
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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July 09, 2014, 01:36:28 PM
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Why are they doing that? Why they are bombing another country?
Provocations to force Russia to respond - just like before WWII. Washington is interested to open a war theatre in Europe. I don't think these are provocations, rather accidental shellings. If they finally kill somebody on the Russian territory (they haven't as of yet, only a few were wounded to my knowledge), Russia would inevitably have to establish a demilitarized zone of some 30-50 kilometers deep into the Ukrainian territory. This would effectively end the ATO since Donetsk is located only 40 kilometers from the Russian-Ukrainian border and Lugank is located almost at the border. By the way, that's one of the reasons why the rebels retreated to these cities. |
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July 09, 2014, 05:34:55 PM |
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War is still a good profit for the US as they export weapons and do nation building aftermath.
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tee-rex
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July 09, 2014, 05:49:34 PM
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War is still a good profit for the US as they export weapons and do nation building aftermath.
As long as it doesn't strike back. |
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July 09, 2014, 06:16:25 PM |
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Just read about the Ukrainian female pilot, who is currently on trial in Russia. How did she end up in Russia?
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247crypto (OP)
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July 09, 2014, 06:23:33 PM |
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How did she end up in Russia?
With private jet. |
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July 09, 2014, 07:43:02 PM |
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How did she end up in Russia?
With private jet. Doesn't seem like a very bright idea to me.. was it a kamikaze mission? But it is also possible that the shells were intentionally fired by rebels
LOL. Russians fire back too. But is not reported by Russian media.
There is any crazy, who will die under Russian artillery. They are fighting some commercial/political war. I wouldn't be too surprised if mass media soon reports about 'chemical weapons' and 'weapons of mass destruction'. |
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tee-rex
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July 09, 2014, 08:43:30 PM
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Just read about the Ukrainian female pilot, who is currently on trial in Russia. How did she end up in Russia?
She tried to cross the border as a refugee without an identity card and was initially detained on the Russian territory for identification. |
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247crypto (OP)
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July 09, 2014, 09:17:01 PM |
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Just read about the Ukrainian female pilot, who is currently on trial in Russia. How did she end up in Russia?
She tried to cross the border as a refugee without an identity card and was initially detained on the Russian territory for identification.  http://rusvesna.su/news/1404900470Captured near Lugansk. |
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tee-rex
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July 10, 2014, 07:05:24 AM
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Just read about the Ukrainian female pilot, who is currently on trial in Russia. How did she end up in Russia?
She tried to cross the border as a refugee without an identity card and was initially detained on the Russian territory for identification. Captured near Lugansk. Why are you so amazed?  We probably have an official version (that she was arrested on Russian territory), and a true one (according to which she was actually taken prisoner near Lugansk). |
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July 10, 2014, 07:15:20 AM |
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This is so typical for people.
Just as US wants to have influence in many countries around the world, on same way Russia wants to have influence in countries which were before under their influence.
Some people will be always greedy.
We need to evolve a lot as society, maybe then we will live in better and peaceful world.
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247crypto (OP)
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July 10, 2014, 10:48:24 AM |
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(that she was arrested on Russian territory), and a true one (according to which she was actually taken prisoner near Lugansk).
You believe not, that she was taken on Russian boarder with Lugansk Republic? Lugansk activists can "liberate" this person direct on boarder. |
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tee-rex
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July 10, 2014, 10:58:15 AM
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(that she was arrested on Russian territory), and a true one (according to which she was actually taken prisoner near Lugansk).
You believe not, that she was taken on Russian boarder with Lugansk Republic? Lugansk activists can "liberate" this person direct on boarder. Lugansk is located some 10 kilometers from the Russian-Ukrainian border, so "near Lugansk" may actually mean in Russia. |
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July 10, 2014, 11:30:22 AM |
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Demilitarized zone would resolve this issue. At least it worked for Cyprus/Northern Cyprus, Korea/DPRK, South Ossetia/Georgia, PMR/Moldova, ...
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Nemo1024
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July 10, 2014, 12:20:22 PM |
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Just read about the Ukrainian female pilot, who is currently on trial in Russia. How did she end up in Russia?
She tried to cross the border as a refugee without an identity card and was initially detained on the Russian territory for identification. Captured near Lugansk. She was arrested by the freedom fighters of Lugansk and extradited to Russia: http://rusvesna.su/news/1404900470Remember that Lugansk People's Republic proclaimed its independence from Ukraine, so what they did is legal. She is accused of being a direct accomplice in murder of the two Russian journalists, as she was the artillery spotter and marked them as targets.
On the note of bombing of Russian territory: There is heavy fighting near border control point "Donetsk". People in Rostov region (Russia) are being evacuated because of shooting: http://rusvesna.su/news/1404974243 |
“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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tee-rex
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July 10, 2014, 12:25:00 PM
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Just read about the Ukrainian female pilot, who is currently on trial in Russia. How did she end up in Russia?
She tried to cross the border as a refugee without an identity card and was initially detained on the Russian territory for identification. Captured near Lugansk. She was arrested by the freedom fighters of Lugansk and extradited to Russia: http://rusvesna.su/news/1404900470Remember that Lugansk People's Republic proclaimed its independence from Ukraine, so what they did is legal. If so, why does the official version of her detainment sound a little different?  |
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