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June 30, 2014, 01:59:33 AM
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http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/06/isil-declares-new-islamic-caliphate-201462917326669749.html


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The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), the armed group fighting governments in Iraq and Syria, has announced the establishment of a "caliphate" straddling the two countries.

In an audio recording distributed online on Sunday, the ISIL declared its chief Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi as "the caliph" and "leader for Muslims everywhere".

Baghdadi is believed to be the leader of ISIL, which announced that it is now called "The Islamic State".



Meanwhile:


USA planning to spend 500 millions to help Syrians rebels. Surely this will strength ISIL, and many of the training or equipment will be used against USA and their allies, specially in Iraqui.

Jihadist levant against Bashar Al-Assad: he's evil and we need to take don his government, jihadist Levant against Iraqi: they are a sovereign state and must deal alone with their problems, only after much pressure they send  insignificant help for them.

Occident keeps sending weapons to Syrians rebels, when anyone with two brains cells is ware many of them will end in the hands of enemies of the Occident.

USA, among other things, used Saddam Hussein - Al Qaeda bounds to justify Iraqi's invasion, now Al Qaeda is orders of magnitude stronger than when Saddam had the power.


There are some mad theories about people inside the USA working hard to crush the USA's world dominance, and about Obama being more loyal to the Muslin Brotherhood than to USA.

Why they don't seems so mad when we see the facts?



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June 30, 2014, 02:09:49 AM
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We would have to wait and see.  All I have seen so far are clips of rebels with Kalashnikovs and white Toyotas.   I don't see how their force can really stand up to anyone in a conventional war or a total war.  A division of Poles or Czechs could stop these guys quickly, never mind a more powerful military like the US marines.


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June 30, 2014, 12:34:35 PM
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Why they don't seems so mad when we see the facts?

Because Americans are subjected to relentless indoctrination and media programming designed to convince them they are in a Holy War against an existential enemy.

This program soaks every nook and cranny of their lives, in public schools, preachers' sermons, NASCAR advertisements, politicians' speeches, NPR, PBS, 4th of July celebrations, Thanksgiving Dinner, ...everything.

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June 30, 2014, 01:47:10 PM
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As usual the Middle East is a complete messed up. Here's an idea -- let them fix it. If they want to be an Islamic State, let 'em. Let's stay out of that hell hole and let them rot in their own madness.

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June 30, 2014, 01:49:33 PM
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As usual the Middle East is a complete messed up. Here's an idea -- let them fix it. If they want to be an Islamic State, let 'em. Let's stay out of that hell hole and let them rot in their own madness.

Last time the Muslims had a caliphate in the middle east they used it to invade Europe.
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June 30, 2014, 02:34:13 PM
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STILL...Can't believe the USA couldn't get at least one (1) USAF AC-130 U Spooky II gunship – with their General Dynamics 25 mm GAU-12/U Equalizer, 5-barreled Gatling cannon; 40 mm L/60 Bofors cannon, and M102 howitzer - up in the air over Iraq to deal with those convoys of wide open ISIS white pick-up trucks traveling along desert roadways.

NOW THAT...Would have been the right thing to do.

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June 30, 2014, 02:36:42 PM
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No surprise here. Wall Street needs to destabilize europe. There is no success in ukraine for now, so they've funded this "caliphate".
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June 30, 2014, 03:01:27 PM
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Just wondering how one hateful muslim sect tells itself from another one.....do the Sunnis stone women with their left hand as opposed to the Shiites who stone with the right hand? Show me something positive about Islam, show me how they actually can help people and I might believe in their cause. But right now, to all the world and the people they are conquering, they are just bloodthirsty anarchists bent on destruction and murder and oppression. Islam is a "religion" of hate and destruction.
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June 30, 2014, 03:08:36 PM
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Islam is not a religion, it's ideological platform. It was good for middle ages in comparison with european political systems, but now it's obsolete.
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June 30, 2014, 05:37:51 PM
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I doubt the Sunnis of the world will all unite via word from this Caliphate. Perhaps, it may challenge certain al qaeda elements to take calls from them. I say let Iran and/or the Saudis field this one and we stay home. The last thing that will be beneficial is for an alleged Christian western nation solving a dispute in the Muslim world. But wait, we already tried that and it blew up in our faces. So, let's do it again right, Cheney?!!
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June 30, 2014, 06:08:11 PM
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Islam is not a religion, it's ideological platform. It was good for middle ages in comparison with european political systems, but now it's obsolete.
I'm not sure about obsolete. Islam is one of the fastest growing religions in the world. Even the idea of Islamic theocracy is growing. I see no such trends in other religions.

Anyway I guess there is now no such thing as isil/isis. They are re-branded as "The Islamic State".

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June 30, 2014, 07:18:21 PM
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I thought it was ISIS.
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July 01, 2014, 09:33:40 AM
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Perhaps they'll call it ObamaBlad.

On a lighter note:

Things sure are different in the Middle East.

THey have a new holiday there that they are calling, "KaBoom." If you call their suicide hotline, you get the following response:

"Islamic Suicide Hotline, What size vest do you wear?"

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July 01, 2014, 09:39:05 AM
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Once again the incompetent president OBAMA has cause these terrorist to form this state which will be 100 times worst than any other terrorist group. Thank you president OBAMA.!!!!

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July 01, 2014, 10:45:28 AM
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Once again the incompetent president OBAMA has cause these terrorist to form this state which will be 100 times worst than any other terrorist group. Thank you president OBAMA.!!!!

You can't expect to see any leadership from that fool.  He can't even control his own cabinet.  Kathleen Sebelius would have to bludgeon kids with a hammer before he thinks of firing her.

Al Maliki is getting just what he asked for.  Last year he pretty much said "I got this".

What's he's going to get is a round to the noggin.
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July 01, 2014, 12:24:26 PM
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Once again the incompetent president OBAMA

Are you really unaware of that fact that U.S. President don't make policy?

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July 01, 2014, 12:44:03 PM
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Here comes the grand plans for a Eurasian Islamic Caliphate (We can also call this a resurrection of the Ottoman Empire).



The Croats and Romanians, who are pro-NATO should be really excited about this.  Grin
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July 01, 2014, 12:46:44 PM
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Here comes the grand plans for a Eurasian Islamic Caliphate (We can also call this a resurrection of the Ottoman Empire).



The Croats and Romanians, who are pro-NATO should be really excited about this.  Grin

Some low life asian living in his hut in the middle of the ocean and thinking about himself as the keeper of all the wisdom and truth in the world should really shut up.

Has Putin cut your daily budget for posting from 80 to 10 posts per day Smiley)))))))))) ?


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Has Putin cut your daily budget for posting from 80 to 10 posts per day Smiley)))))))))) ?

Seems like Putin cut your daily budget as well. Earlier you averaged 250 posts / week. This week, you have posted less than 10 posts.
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Has Putin cut your daily budget for posting from 80 to 10 posts per day Smiley)))))))))) ?

Seems like Putin cut your daily budget as well. Earlier you averaged 250 posts / week. This week, you have posted less than 10 posts.

I have done roughly 400 posts/month mr wikipedia rt copy paste.
Unlike you who have been doing constantly 80 day while you were paid for it.

Also if you look back at my posts about 50% of them are triggered by your errors and your stupid assumptions.
Without the idiot claiming he knows everything spamming the board of course I have less material.



And here's the Devil himself, once you mention him Tongue

Is he paid per post? The last time I heard, he was getting paid according to the total time logged in. Looking at his artillery barrage, I have a feeling that he will be more useful in the real battle.  Grin

Seems like your artillery barrage is suffering Smiley))).



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