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June 30, 2014, 06:38:08 PM |
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JUSTICES: CAN'T MAKE EMPLOYERS COVER CONTRACEPTIONWASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ruled Monday that some corporations can hold religious objections that allow them to opt out of the new health law requirement that they cover contraceptives for women.
The justices' 5-4 decision is the first time that the high court has ruled that profit-seeking businesses can hold religious views under federal law. And it means the Obama administration must search for a different way of providing free contraception to women who are covered under objecting companies' health insurance plans.
Contraception is among a range of preventive services that must be provided at no extra charge under the health care law that President Barack Obama signed in 2010 and the Supreme Court upheld two years later. More... http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SUPREME_COURT_BIRTH_CONTROL?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-06-30-10-19-15Mind you, Roberts (as you'll read) was the turncoat that helped save the health care mandate during Obama's bid for reelection. So basically, a corporation can be exempt from providing contraceptive service plans but it's ok to make everyone purchase something that they may not need nor want. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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June 30, 2014, 06:54:24 PM |
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So could atheist company argue that they shouldn't be forced to pay extra on sundays and holidays? And if some people don't want to work on christmas-eve for the standard rate they are free to fire them?
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June 30, 2014, 08:40:15 PM |
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So could atheist company argue that they shouldn't be forced to pay extra on sundays and holidays? And if some people don't want to work on christmas-eve for the standard rate they are free to fire them?
I guess they can, this decision opens a whole new world of possibilities, I assume Christian Scientists now don't have to provide health insurance at all...
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June 30, 2014, 11:11:22 PM |
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On the other hand, this could open up a slew of new slapdowns of random aspects of this bullshit health care law.
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June 30, 2014, 11:30:40 PM |
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On the other hand, this could open up a slew of new slapdowns of random aspects of this bullshit health care law.
That would not necessarily be a bad thing. Nitpick away at it until there isn't much left. I've seen requiring health care insurance as something that could be on the level of requiring car insurance IF we also force insurance companies to step up to the plate when somebody gets sick and do something about runaway health care costs that are largely driven by Big Pharma.
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June 30, 2014, 11:42:07 PM |
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Pilgrims, before hating on the natives long after, left europe from religious persecution. That is why Catholics were not too popular in the "new world". Obamacare was telling them to either stop their belief or go bankrupted. They were not forcing their belief on their own employees, the government was. As far as jim crow laws coming back or gay bashing by evil capitalist bosses, that is not what this law is about. Furthermore people who are paying taxes in the US, but don't believe in abortion ARE already financing the death of millions of babies through planned parenthood when they get financed by the government. Sandra Fluke will have to pay for her $9/month birth control herself, or find something else to do. Her 5 min of fame is up. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkjigylN.jpg&t=665&c=MZ3xdy6S1rzBng)
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June 30, 2014, 11:59:25 PM |
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The Green family has no moral objection to the use of 16 of 20 preventive contraceptives required in the mandate, and Hobby Lobby will continue its longstanding practice of covering these preventive contraceptives for its employees. However, the Green family cannot provide or pay for four potentially life-threatening drugs and devices. These drugs include Plan B and Ella, the so-called morning-after pill and the week-after pill. Covering these drugs and devices would violate their deeply held religious belief that life begins at the moment of conception, when an egg is fertilized.http://www.becketfund.org/hobbylobby/--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What was the big deal again? According to the left minded this ruling means: jim crow and cannibalism are back at the workplace...
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July 01, 2014, 12:19:06 AM |
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Even if it's a net benefit, this has to be one of the most fundamentally stupid judgments out of the SCOTUS since the World Wars. I can't get out of this coverage if I don't want it, but if a corporation claims some Rain Man at the Westboro Baptist Church said one of the hundreds of legally recognized cloud-gods disapproves, they can get out of it. This is pluralism gone full-retard.
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July 01, 2014, 02:48:32 AM |
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So can people still join if they want obamacare?
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July 01, 2014, 02:53:38 AM |
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The whole law should have never been upheld in the first place. This is just a distraction from the real problems.
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July 01, 2014, 11:00:40 AM |
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The whole law should have never been upheld in the first place. This is just a distraction from the real problems.
We need to pass it to see what's in it. We need to uphold it through the SCOTUS to see what's in it. We need to fail horribly at reform to see what's in it.
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July 01, 2014, 06:40:08 PM |
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The whole law should have never been upheld in the first place. This is just a distraction from the real problems.
We need to pass it to see what's in it. We need to uphold it through the SCOTUS to see what's in it. We need to fail horribly at reform to see what's in it. Much thanks to the mainstream media and the American boobeoisie drones for selling and buying that line by Madame Pelosi. I often wonder what the afterlife holds for the devious that profit while selling the innocent down the river. "For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?" Mark 8:36
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July 01, 2014, 11:25:07 PM |
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The whole law should have never been upheld in the first place. This is just a distraction from the real problems.
We need to pass it to see what's in it. We need to uphold it through the SCOTUS to see what's in it. We need to fail horribly at reform to see what's in it. Much thanks to the mainstream media and the American boobeoisie drones for selling and buying that line by Madame Pelosi. I often wonder what the afterlife holds for the devious that profit while selling the innocent down the river. "For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?" Mark 8:36 That is what we get when people vote based on sound bites and coolness factor. It would never happen but I would it if voting were and essay exam in which you had to explain the reasons for your vote in a logical and coherent manner and if you managed to make a reasonable case your vote gets counted.
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