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July 01, 2014, 08:20:31 AM
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I wish there were a pool which rewarded the block finder with 12.5 BTC (the remaining 12.5+fees would de divided between all miners, just as a normal pool).

The total network hash rate is 120.000 TH, so even with just 1TH you play a game with reasonable odds.  Within the next 10,000 blocks (~2 months) you have an 8% chance of winning.

This would also help the network. Individuals would play for the same reason they participate in state lotteries. They are likely to "over-invest" (which they btw do all ready) so that the expected return turns negative. Large investors with data centers would be forced out.
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July 04, 2014, 06:34:45 AM
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The closest one I can think of is the p2pool which gives 0.5% bonus to the block finder.

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July 04, 2014, 06:38:53 AM
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I don't think i would mine with you but you should start a pool like this , a lot of people would probably go for it.

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July 06, 2014, 12:38:24 PM
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Isnt this exactly what you want?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262712.0
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July 10, 2014, 01:15:44 AM
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So you're actually suggesting a higher variance pool for gamblers.

Hmm...it's an interesting thought. I'm sure there's a market for it, if small.
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July 10, 2014, 08:19:47 AM
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Isnt this exactly what you want?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262712.0

Not exactly.
OP still wants to have half of the usual revenue when he doesn't find the block lol. Smiley

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July 10, 2014, 10:46:03 PM
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great idea.  pool ops won't do it.  I could show the math and rant and rave why every miner should so some solo mining.  this pool is just that some solo mining.

I could say that
btcguild
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should all offer a server link with this or something like this.

100% share
75%   share
50%   share
25%   share
0%     share

I could also say wemineltc should do it.  but they won't.  pools don't want to offer this for lots of reasons.

I won't go into the why of it.  But they wont offer it.

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July 10, 2014, 10:54:04 PM
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Isnt this exactly what you want?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262712.0

Not exactly.
OP still wants to have half of the usual revenue when he doesn't find the block lol. Smiley

Well, OP just needs to split half his hashrate to solopool and half to a more usual pool. Over time it'll average out to the same thing.

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July 11, 2014, 07:23:12 PM
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Isnt this exactly what you want?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262712.0

Not exactly.
OP still wants to have half of the usual revenue when he doesn't find the block lol. Smiley

Well, OP just needs to split half his hashrate to solopool and half to a more usual pool. Over time it'll average out to the same thing.

yeah that is the best solution for him.  I do 1.5 % to bitsolo.net and 99 % to btcguild.


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July 11, 2014, 09:57:32 PM
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Well he wants a 12.5BTC block reward, so split 1/2 hashrate to a large pool and the other half to solomining/p2pool
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July 11, 2014, 10:53:50 PM
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Actually, this ould be quite an interesting idea. Why have to split your hashrate between two services, such as solopool and a regular pool, when such a pool can be created.
Indeed, I don't know what market this idea will have... but who knows?

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July 12, 2014, 07:01:34 AM
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Actually, this ould be quite an interesting idea. Why have to split your hashrate between two services, such as solopool and a regular pool, when such a pool can be created.
What exactly would the incentive be for someone to go the effort and cost of setting up and maintaining a pool for a service that has very few people interested in using when setting up 2  pools in balance mode requires approximately 30 seconds effort on the miner's part?

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July 12, 2014, 07:14:06 AM
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Isnt this exactly what you want?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262712.0

Not exactly.
OP still wants to have half of the usual revenue when he doesn't find the block lol. Smiley

Well, OP just needs to split half his hashrate to solopool and half to a more usual pool. Over time it'll average out to the same thing.

yeah that is the best solution for him.  I do 1.5 % to bitsolo.net and 99 % to btcguild.



Please share this method for achieving 100.5% of your hashrate? Wink

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July 12, 2014, 11:10:07 AM
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Isnt this exactly what you want?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262712.0

Not exactly.
OP still wants to have half of the usual revenue when he doesn't find the block lol. Smiley

Well, OP just needs to split half his hashrate to solopool and half to a more usual pool. Over time it'll average out to the same thing.

yeah that is the best solution for him.  I do 1.5 % to bitsolo.net and 99 % to btcguild.



Please share this method for achieving 100.5% of your hashrate? Wink
   auto correct  ? rounding error?       Wink


  15gh   and 1020gh    hmm  lets not be lazy 15/1035 = 1.45 percent     1020/1035 = 98.55 percent


I am getting 2 or 3 s-3's .

 I plan to  use one at solo and the other one or 2 at merged pool like bitminter.


I would then be  at 500gh  solo   1500 gh merged

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Isnt this exactly what you want?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262712.0

Not exactly.
OP still wants to have half of the usual revenue when he doesn't find the block lol. Smiley

Well, OP just needs to split half his hashrate to solopool and half to a more usual pool. Over time it'll average out to the same thing.

yeah that is the best solution for him.  I do 1.5 % to bitsolo.net and 99 % to btcguild.



Please share this method for achieving 100.5% of your hashrate? Wink
   auto correct  ? rounding error?       Wink


  15gh   and 1020gh    hmm  lets not be lazy 15/1035 = 1.45 percent     1020/1035 = 98.55 percent


I am getting 2 or 3 s-3's .

 I plan to  use one at solo and the other one or 2 at merged pool like bitminter.


I would then be  at 500gh  solo   1500 gh merged


Ack, it's been weeks now and you're still using the word "merged" wrong!

There is either solo mining or pool mining*. Some pools also merge mine alt coins. "Merged" and "pool" mean different things. The words are not interchangeable.


* there are also solo "pools" but they aren't technically real pools since you aren't actually "pooling" your resources. They are really more like solo mining gateways.
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July 14, 2014, 09:57:46 PM
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Isnt this exactly what you want?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262712.0

Not exactly.
OP still wants to have half of the usual revenue when he doesn't find the block lol. Smiley

Well, OP just needs to split half his hashrate to solopool and half to a more usual pool. Over time it'll average out to the same thing.

yeah that is the best solution for him.  I do 1.5 % to bitsolo.net and 99 % to btcguild.



Please share this method for achieving 100.5% of your hashrate? Wink
   auto correct  ? rounding error?       Wink


  15gh   and 1020gh    hmm  lets not be lazy 15/1035 = 1.45 percent     1020/1035 = 98.55 percent


I am getting 2 or 3 s-3's .

 I plan to  use one at solo and the other one or 2 at merged pool like bitminter.


I would then be  at 500gh  solo   1500 gh merged


Ack, it's been weeks now and you're still using the word "merged" wrong!

There is either solo mining or pool mining*. Some pools also merge mine alt coins. "Merged" and "pool" mean different things. The words are not interchangeable.


* there are also solo "pools" but they aren't technically real pools since you aren't actually "pooling" your resources. They are really more like solo mining gateways.

I coined merged pools to be  differential  from solo pools.

I do understand  you, but if bitsolo.net and solopool.net call their selves solo pools I don't I  know what to call the 'normal' pools.

using solopool.net or bitsolo.net   we are using a pooled server  that rewards blocks to the block maker only.


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July 15, 2014, 03:02:58 AM
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I coined merged pools to be  differential  from solo pools.

I do understand  you, but if bitsolo.net and solopool.net call their selves solo pools I don't I  know what to call the 'normal' pools.

using solopool.net or bitsolo.net   we are using a pooled server  that rewards blocks to the block maker only.



what happens when a "solo" pools starts including merged mining?

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July 15, 2014, 04:59:34 PM
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great idea.  pool ops won't do it.  I could show the math and rant and rave why every miner should so some solo mining.  this pool is just that some solo mining.

I could say that
btcguild
bitminter
slush
eligus

should all offer a server link with this or something like this.

100% share
75%   share
50%   share
25%   share
0%     share

I could also say wemineltc should do it.  but they won't.  pools don't want to offer this for lots of reasons.

I won't go into the why of it.  But they wont offer it.

 I mine 15 gh here
http://bitsolo.net/my-account/

I mine 1 th here

www.btcguild.com



I must also hold my hands up to throwing 20 GH/s at bitsolo.... well you never know.

But back on topic, i think a 50% finders block bonus is a good idea and certainly something i would consider !

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July 15, 2014, 08:01:19 PM
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I wish there were a pool which rewarded the block finder with 12.5 BTC (the remaining 12.5+fees would de divided between all miners, just as a normal pool).

The total network hash rate is 120.000 TH, so even with just 1TH you play a game with reasonable odds.  Within the next 10,000 blocks (~2 months) you have an 8% chance of winning.

This would also help the network. Individuals would play for the same reason they participate in state lotteries. They are likely to "over-invest" (which they btw do all ready) so that the expected return turns negative. Large investors with data centers would be forced out.

I have 15% of my hashrate pointing to bitsolo and 85% at a normal pool. This way you can pick how much you want to gamble! I have a 1% chance at finding  block per week. Not bad Smiley
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