[CryptoNote] A complete forking guide to create your own CryptoNote currency

[btc-mike]

uhhhm WHY ?

why would you pretty much create a coin and then tell people to clone it ?

wouldn't be so bag holders have a fresh new coin to pump and dump would it ?

Perhaps there are more flaws/backdoors hidden in the code base waiting to be found/exploited.

[Spoetnik]

uhhhm WHY ?

why would you pretty much create a coin and then tell people to clone it ?

wouldn't be so bag holders have a fresh new coin to pump and dump would it ?

Perhaps there are more flaws/backdoors hidden in the code base waiting to be found/exploited.

really ? seriously ? that is you retort ?
ahhh jeez i just don't even know what to say     

[btc-mike]

uhhhm WHY ?

why would you pretty much create a coin and then tell people to clone it ?

wouldn't be so bag holders have a fresh new coin to pump and dump would it ?

Perhaps there are more flaws/backdoors hidden in the code base waiting to be found/exploited.

really ? seriously ? that is you retort ?
ahhh jeez i just don't even know what to say     

yea, that was a pathetic post. i will do better next time.

[Spoetnik]

uhhhm WHY ?

why would you pretty much create a coin and then tell people to clone it ?

wouldn't be so bag holders have a fresh new coin to pump and dump would it ?

Perhaps there are more flaws/backdoors hidden in the code base waiting to be found/exploited.

really ? seriously ? that is you retort ?
ahhh jeez i just don't even know what to say      

yea, that was a pathetic post. i will do better next time.

yeah !
saying you need to keep making and posting clone coins in an effort to find "Bugs" is bloody nonsense..
and why did the OP not mention that is why Cryptonote exists ?

so hmmm lets think here for a second.. are new clone coins put out to find bugs ?
or are they put out so they can be pumped and dumped ?
What do you think BitcoinTalk ?

[Spoetnik]

This is where it is getting interesting. How many coins do you guys think is enough for CryptoNote?

You did start the repository from Bytecoin and your guide is really helpful. By the way nice site but I didn't notice "Start forking" button for quite some time.

Where is the "Start forking" button ? ..you mean on the OP's first post ?

And hey was Monero the first clone or what ?
also is there a list of all the coins that have come out ?
i seen a merge mining pool that listed a whole crap load of these cryptonote clones ..including MONERO.
but i'm wondering how many more there are etc..
once they dump out the monero on their victims they will jump to another clone so i want to be able to keep tabs on the Shill team !

oh and does the guide cover pumping and dumping and Shilling your clone coin at Bitcointalk forums ?
lemme guess step is one call everyone a Troll that won't give you their Bitcoin right ?
this is all i see..

Section 1a) Cloning and changing source code to hide your scam.
Section 1b) Changing source code in phases for plausible denial.
Section 1c) Grooming your victims.
Section 2a) Accusing critics of FUD and highlighting "community"
Section 2b) Ponzi + Multilevel marketing theory - crypto coins basic concepts
Section 2c) Shilling, hype, advertising, spamming
Section 2d) Dummy account creation + Trolling
Section 3a) The pump and dump
Section 3b) Silencing & Discrediting your complaining victims
Section 4a) Posting fake news about Markets, Shares, Anon features and other misc gimmicks or "i wuz haxed" claims
Section 4b) Harrasing victims for bitcoin until they submit with bully tactics on forums and on irc.
Section 4c) Lying defense tactics (the liar calling the critic a liar circle jerk "i know you are but what am i" game)
Section 5a) Starting it all over again and taking more coveted Bitcoin from your old victims

[binaryFate]

Dude you should really chill out with Monero, kind of an obsession.  

Monero is an attempt to use the cryptonote tech by people that are *not* part of the cryptonote foundation (or bytecoin scammers, or whatever you call them).
Most of the monero community would agree with you that the forking guide advertised in this thread is bullshit.
It is most likely an attempt to undermine all existing cryptonote coins (mostly monero) by creating a flood of copycats, so later the cryptonote foundation (or bytecoin scammers, or whatever you call them) could come up with a new coin that they could control.

[Spoetnik]

obsession ? am i the one jamming it down everyone throats non stop 24/7 ?

i only took notice of their antics because i thought it was strange how this nobody / noob came out of nowhere
with the most popular coin topic on this whole forum.

i started noticing for a long loooong time that the "reptiele altcoin observer" topic was being pushed to the top constantly.. which is odd !
ANY time i came here it was the 3rd or 4th topic from the top at all times 24 hours a day, everyday !
And i clicked on it after ignoring it 100% for a loooooong time and what do i see ?

The guy pushing Monero saying how Monero was his FIRST altcoin.. on the 2nd sentence and then a giant wall of text about HIS forum rules etc..
And i thought well jeez that is messed up.. why does this noob nobody have a topic that has already 230 pages of replies on it ?
and who does this noob think he is coming here with his own insane set of forum rules ?

Who is this noob and WTF is going on around here ?
Then the more i look the more i see a rotation of (self-moderated) Monero advertisement topics being rotated / bumped onto page one by the same group of guys.
They have been running a circle jerk campaign of spamming around here for a loooong time.. trying to be sneaky and play dumb about it all.

We simply can't ignore these Monero Shills because they are bending over backwards jamming it down our throats non stop !
They just won't shut up.. not for a minute.

They are trying to strong arm bully this Forum with their self moderated topics..
That repilte "noob" observer guy posted this..

The rules of this thread are very strict, as always in my threads:

- There is no freedom of speech. The topic is altcoins, but I also want that it stays in a level that is possible and interesting to read for a busy Bitcoin holder that does not care about alts. I know how it feels to be a busy Bitcoin holder, so I steer the discussion to the maximum benefit for me, and for my readers.

- Which alts can be discussed, is up to me. Mentioning an alt after that specific alt has been banned from a thread results in a ban for you. If you do not obey my ban from the thread, historically you have had 100% chance to be banned from the forum as a result. Don't try your luck.

- Posts may be deleted for whatever reason. Deletion does not necessarily mean that the post was offensive. It may also have been too long quote (in which case either the original, or the reply may be pruned), repetition of yours or somebody else's point, or anything else.

- Moderating actions are written in red. Others are not allowed to use red.

THIS part below is rather interesting don't you all think ?

but I also want that it stays in a level that is possible and interesting to read for a busy Bitcoin holder that does not care about alts. I know how it feels to be a busy Bitcoin holder, so I steer the discussion to the maximum benefit for me, and for my readers.

[cryptonote]

This thread is devoted to the CryptoNote technology and forking process questions only. We would kindly ask you to refrain from further off-topic flame posts.

[Eastwind]

Where do you set the initial difficulty?

Where is genesis block chain stored?

[smooth]

That was pretty funny Spoetnik but you should have photoshopped in our names under the characters pics.

Also, can someone give a quick summary of the process needed to create a new cryptonote genesis block. Thanks.

[Spoetnik]

That was pretty funny Spoetnik but you should have photoshopped in our names under the characters pics.

Also, can someone give a quick summary of the process needed to create a new cryptonote genesis block. Thanks.

ya good idea not sure i will though i am lazy..

and OP.. use test net ?
explain to me why you need to create a pile of forks / clones to find bugs ?

i was not flaming or trolling in the slightest and i asked questions and they were ignored.. good job hiding.

your attempt to discredit me and what i said earlier failed.
it's not about me is it ?
it's about cryptonote and i asked questions about Cryptonote of you actually read what i asked..
so i ask you to refrain from discussing me on the forum and stick to the topic of coins please.

i bet i will get the BFL answer..
Testnet does not make us money LOL
that was what BFL Asic company said when a staff member asked the boss why they don't burn in on TestNet.

so be a man grow some balls and own up to your clone coin posting here and answer the questions.
a full list of all the Cryptonote clones would be a good start.. AND who made them.. did you make any of them ?

[superresistant]

That was pretty funny Spoetnik but you should have photoshopped in our names under the characters pics.

I would like to be on the picture but I'm French so Spoetnik would have to change the flag in the background.

Very funny anyway.

[Spoetnik]

That was pretty funny Spoetnik but you should have photoshopped in our names under the characters pics.

I would like to be on the picture but I'm French so Spoetnik would have to change the flag in the background.

Very funny anyway.

i think the funny part is the questions i asked ignored.. par for the course around here.

anon name changers scared ..hiding.

and that sounds like a lot of work ...i am lazy

[Febo]

Spoetnik, i was today on Cryptonote forum and saw they made an account on this forum and actually today first time read this thread. On your last question that basicly BTC-Mike lead you to it is simple answer. Well unless you believe in conspiracies as most here does anyway.

We're not surprised with your response.

First of all, I suggest you re-read our philosophy: https://cryptonote.org/inside.php#philosophy

CryptoNote mission is to provide you with the tools that could be used to subvert the paradigm and decentralize the international financial system. Such radical innovation should not be grown from within one center, it requires a lot of contributors to become a trend. We are concerned with strategic issues of the whole platform not a single coin, which is only a tiny part of the ecosystem that is being crafted at the moment. The advent of CryptoNote allowed to create first truly anonymous currencies, but the goal is to create a fair financial system.

We have stated it multiple times and I'm going to repeat it once again, we will never launch or maintain a real currency. We've opened this opportunity for the community to create and grow their own CryptoNote coins and let the market and developers teams decide which one is going to succeed and become the main CryptoNote currency. We're not jumping on this "train", we're working hard to create the rails for it and won't be lured away from our mission. That is why we are not going to specifically promote any of the existing currencies, and you have to face it.

Unfortunately, the community is using decentralized currencies but still operates within centralized financial system frame. While proponents of Bitcoin or any other particular currencies try to focus their efforts and create yet another centralized financial asset, we envision a much larger picture with a lot of co-existing cryptocurrencies, corporate currencies, private currencies, community currencies, niche currencies, etc. Consider Auroracoin and how it was proposed to educate Iceland on cryptocurrencies and create liquidity out of nowhere. This trend will be reinforced with more and more national and regional coins launching. A truly decentralized financial system requires a number of stable and fair currencies, not a single one.

According to our roadmap it is time for new CryptoNote currencies to emerge so that the whole CryptoNote platform becomes more stable and diversified. Apart form what I've mentioned above, this will also lead to more significant contribution from the community and much faster technology development. We're already working on the crypto protocol documentation to help you, but this will take some time. What you are largely misunderstanding is that CryptoNote is still relatively raw as the technology and requires more attention to gain momentum.

Having said that, CryptoNoteCoin will not be a sustainable coin. You can be sure that we know what we are talking about. Actual implementation may vary. For instance, genesis block will be changed everyone month, which will break the previously mined block chain. We'll also give a way a lot of the coin for free for the newbies to give CryptoNote a try and then move on to the currencies that you create or support.

[Eastwind]

It seems crypto note questions are not answered here.

[Febo]

Well Spoetnik question was not cryptonote question. But why they gave this technology for everyone to make a cryptonote coin. If you belive their words it makes sense. But there still is question who they are.
Most BBR and XMR community will say, they are connected with Bytecoin and also with other Cryptonote coins. But can also not be true. Yes they said they worked close with Bytecoin in past, but when Bytcoin focused strictly on their coin, they parted.

What bothers me most is if all what they say is true and i more and more believe it. Who are they? Just random people that love their hobby or some organization that hate centralized world. Maybe one day no one will ask who Satoshi was, but who Cryptonote team was.

[thelonecrouton]

1. CN devs actually believe their own spiel, want to broaden adoption and understanding of CN coins. Not entirely implausible.

2. CN devs are attempting to dilute the market of all their cloners, possibly prior to releasing a new coin or new features of their own, as they're still the only ones that actually understand the code. Might have the desired effect and costs nothing.

3. Someone else other than the CN devs is pulling #2. This was my first thought.

4. This is the long awaited 'solution' to the bloatchain - instead of a few big ones, have dozens of smaller ones. No idea.

5. This is prep for a ScamNet style vapourware cross-chain multiphase paradigm warp topology telepod meta-CN 2.0 IPO/ICO/CFC/WTF. You know it's only a matter of time.

[noel57]

It is not that easy to create a cryptonote from this website, i have been there even it take weeks to get reply from their forum and you will hardly get assistance from the forum member.

[Eastwind]

3. Someone else other than the CN devs is pulling #2. This was my first thought.

4. This is the long awaited 'solution' to the bloatchain - instead of a few big ones, have dozens of smaller ones. No idea.

5. This is prep for a ScamNet style vapourware cross-chain multiphase paradigm warp topology telepod meta-CN 2.0 IPO/ICO/CFC/WTF. You know it's only a matter of time.

Monero is #2 in terms of coding at the moment, but it catches fast.

[cryptonote]

Today we’ve updated CryptoNote Foundation repository with 1.0.2 update which includes a lot of improvements to API, network and much more.

Read full news here: https://cryptonote.org/news/2015/4/23/cryptonote-reference-code-update-1-0-2

CryptoNote reference code release notes 1.0.2

- Multisignature with API

Multisignatures provides user with a possibility to create an address associated with several (M) owners. In order to access funds on this address one would have to provide  N (of M) signatures under the different keys. It also enables convenient way to  create trustless services such as escrow (2 of 3 sigs) or web-wallet (2-of-2).

- Low level API

Updated Low level API provides users with a possibility to easily operate a transaction creation process: select inputs for a transaction, contains various methods for transaction signing.

- High level API improvements

This update have increased the modularity of high level API. It is now separated in three different modules: INode, IWallet and ITransaction. API is now much faster and much more stable than before, supports ordinary and multisignatures transactions.

- Updated block reward scheme

Before this update penalty was imposed only to block reward and now it’s imposed to both block reward and commission.

- Dynamic maximum block size limit

This feature was introduced to protect blockchain from bloating.

- Instant transaction pool notifications

Instant transaction pool notifications provide user with a possibility to find out their locked amount as soon as transaction is sent, not when it is included into the block.

- Transaction priority based on tx fee

Bitcoin-like feature, the more your commission is the faster your transaction will be included into the block.

- Transactions are returned from tx pools after 24 hours

To ensure that transaction pool won’t bloat out of proportion, all transactions that has been in the tx pool for 24h (and were not included into any block) will be removed and funds returned to the owners.

- Fully refactored simplewallet

New version of simplewallet, built on updated High level API - serves as a showcase of what new API can do.

- Transaction history for simplewallet

Updated transaction history for simplewallet, now it shows much more information about the transaction you’ve sent, such as: fee, block index, unlock time, timestamp etc.

- Reset command for simplewallet

Reset command allows user to reload the data from a Node. This will allow users to unlock their outputs in case their transaction wasn’t included into the block and was sent back to them.

- Faster wallet refresh

Faster communications between wallet and daemon. Including faster synchronization with daemon and other various improvements.

- Further optimization in daemon RAM consumption

This update brings less RAM consumption to CryptoNote. Now users will be able to start CryptoNote-forked coins even on a low RAM PCs’ without any difficulties.

- Config and CryptoNote forking how-to update

More detailed and comprehensive instructions on how to fork CryptoNote, establish a config that is the most suitable for you and finally launch your CryptoNote currency.