Do you really earn more money because you went to college?

[boumalo]

People that go to college are in average brighter, harder working, more ambitious and for more affluante families and they are meant to make more money (as a group) than people that don't go to college

If you factor in the cost of going to college will you really make more money because of the diploma you will get?

Support : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbUFBk3477o (few minutes video debating the subject)

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[acs267]

I'm going to a University, and I already know most of the time that diploma means SHIT. Some people aren't even going to go in the field they studied for, or, they're looking for jobs in the wrong places. Going to college means shit. It doesn't guarantee a good path, meaning, some people won't earn more money.

[leex1528]

Unfortunately nowadays the Diploma does very little.  It is more about experience gained and who you know.  All you are left with is tons of debt that will take you 1/4 of your life to pay back....Things need to change.

[zhinkk]

I'm going to a University, and I already know most of the time that diploma means SHIT. Some people aren't even going to go in the field they studied for, or, they're looking for jobs in the wrong places. Going to college means shit. It doesn't guarantee a good path, meaning, some people won't earn more money.

True. But what option am I really left with? Risk it with a high school diploma plus maybe some vocational training/certificates? It sucks how the current system has developed into, but I really have no choice if I want to be making a high salary with a secure job (80k+).

[Lethn]

People that go to college are in average brighter, harder working, more ambitious and for more affluante families and they are meant to make more money (as a group) than people that don't go to college

I chose to stay unemployed and and not work to get into university/college so I could build my business from essentially nothing and getting educated in two subjects, technically three, Jewellery Making, Gemstone Setting and Artwork all for the price of what would be considered a university degree essentially, I sincerely doubt I would be able to get the kind of one to one education I am getting now where I am than if I went to university and took one of the same subjects.

I'd like to see a link to this Federal Reserve 'study' looks to me like more of the same kind of bullshit mathematics and research I am used to when looking at politics which is all this is about.

p.s. You guys may have noticed my thread hasn't been updating awhile and that's because I'm working hard on getting projects finished and I'm learning new Jewellery techniques, I also got some awesome Topaz's in from Thailand just recently so I'll be setting my first faceted stones!

p.s.s Up yours any university professors who work in the Artwork/Jewellery fields if you happen to be reading this

True. But what option am I really left with? Risk it with a high school diploma plus maybe some vocational training/certificates? It sucks how the current system has developed into, but I really have no choice if I want to be making a high salary with a secure job (80k+).

Honestly, if we were in the past economy I would have agreed with you, but Bitcoin for me at least has changed everything, all you need to set up most businesses now is a Bitcoin Payment processor, a website and a skillset or service you can use that people will want to buy and that's the way it should be. I just recently had a look at the jobs listing and the situation is still pretty ridiculous since so many employers are asking for industry experience and university degrees it's no wonder you don't have anyone young getting employed, it's the employers fault not the people applying!

[rohnearner]

I can't say exactly if thats gonna help me or not because I still have to finish my college maybe a year more. and at this point I can say its not the worst decision I ever took , although there were not much options available, and with the amount of competition around it always help if you are holding something in your hand. although thousands other carrying the same thing but atleast now you'll get a chance to compete with them.   

[Lauda]

Do you? The question is rather funny.
Go to college --> become neurosurgeon (I highly doubt that you could achieve this without college) --> http://www.healthcareworkersalary.com/physicians/neurosurgeon-salary/?doing_wp_cron=1404423480.4343879222869873046875

Stop trying to find a way to get out of studying.
 

[Brewins]

Do you? The question is rather funny.
Go to college --> become neurosurgeon (I highly doubt that you could achieve this without college) --> http://www.healthcareworkersalary.com/physicians/neurosurgeon-salary/?doing_wp_cron=1404423480.4343879222869873046875

Stop trying to find a way to get out of studying.
 

Now show the study that compares the efford and costs to become neurosurgeon invested in others fields

[Lethn]

Yeah, that kind of thinking is incredibly biased and saying someone not wanting to get a degree is just trying to get out of studying is pretty insulting to people who study independently and in fact learn more and better that way.

[Lauda]

Yeah, that kind of thinking is incredibly biased and saying someone not wanting to get a degree is just trying to get out of studying is pretty insulting to people who study independently and in fact learn more and better that way.

Who said that I wasn't trying to insult such people?

[cech4204a]

I attended college since i was somehow forced to do it, it was expected from me to do it and i did it. I think if i had free will i wouldn't attend, but now i'm happy i did. Somehow i see stuff different and i like the fact that i can get better job, but i'm still jobless

[Brewins]

Yea ppl,really stop makin the impossible to quit school. There are many ways to make money but is always roguish of course but anyway. Just be on the principle to study what you like and everybody will be happy   in perpetuity.

many people get rich without degree. Some examples:


http://oddtale.com/top-7-rich-people-without-college-degree/


Others made great contributions to their fields without degree(ex: Faraday)


al rogue people, of course

[nickenburg]

Probably, but I hope bitcoin will reach a unbelievable high price.
And then I will earn more money then someone that went to collage!
But still people that got a diploma and that are not making 100k> a year.
I feel sorry for them because all there lives they will have to work for there house, and everything else.

[CEG5952]

If you don't know people who can put you on, a degree is an easy first way employers separate the wheat from the chaff. Getting your foot in the door is half the battle. Knowing how to deal with people and bullshit your way through life -- that's the other half. If you don't have that, a degree probably won't get you too far.

[Skele]

No, unfortunately here in Mexico it is more profitable selling Tacos than performing studies...

[Bitcoin Magazine]

no, because of college i tried weed and it messed up my brain.  now i can't get a job (disabled).

[jaberwock]

If I didn't go to College I will not know about computers, Probably I could not have a job. I think it is worth it.

[bitmaster111]

no, because of college i tried weed and it messed up my brain.  now i can't get a job (disabled).

you do not get a job because you don't want to do the job college gives you the degree and knowledge and makes you eligible for any interview you can't blame on your college life if you say you started weed in college there is also new thing which is added into your life means something is growing in your life .

[silvercane]

College is to educate not to allow you to earn more money. Sure the qualifications enable you to get a higher paying job as you'll be qualified for it, but this is only because without the college education you would nt know what you are doing
Employers prefer qualified employees and people who know what they are doing...of course depending on the field, college graduates look better than your average high school pass.

No, College does not earn you more money, but it certainly does enable you to earn more money.

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STEP 1: GO TO COLLEGE
STEP 2: DROP OUT

Most successful people dropped out of college. Notice the word "dropped out". This is different from having never attended. Bill Gates (Microsoft), Steve Jobs (Apple), Mark Zuckerberg (Facebook), Richard Branson* (Virgin), Michael Dell (Dell), Larry Ellison (Oracle), Larry Page and Sergey Brin* (Google), Sean Parker (Napster and the first President of Facebook), the guy who made CNN, the list goes on...

Got a computer? Chances are, it's running either Windows (Gates) or OS X (Jobs). Got a phone? It's probably either an iPhone (Jobs), a Windows phone (Gates), or an Android phone (Page/Brin). Want to look something up? You'll probably either use Google (Page/Brin) or Bing (Gates).

*Technically, Branson was a high school dropout and the guys from Google dropped out of their postgrad programs but you get the idea.

EDIT: Elon Musk (Tesla) also dropped out of his postgrad:

He moved to California to pursue a PhD in applied physics at Stanford but left the program after two days to pursue his entrepreneurial aspirations in the areas of the Internet, renewable energy and outer space.

EDIT 2: The Ethereum guy, another dropout:

So what’s his background? Buterin attended college for a year -- and then left due to Bitcoin opportunities. "I don’t regret it," he said. "Look at what I’m doing now."

So the message seems to be that in order to be successful, generally you need to go to college (well, except Branson). But if there is one common thread that unites the most successful people of the world, then it is the fact that they proceeded to drop out of college in order to follow their dreams and aspirations.

Not to mention college dropouts are over-represented among list of the billionaires.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_college_dropout_billionaires

The average net worth of billionaires who dropped out of college, $9.4 billion, is approximately triple that of billionaires with Ph.D.s, $3.2 billion. Even if one removes Bill Gates, who left Harvard University and is now worth $66.0 billion, college dropouts are worth $5.3 billion on average, compared to those who finished only bachelor's degrees, who are worth $2.9 billion.