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March 07, 2012, 05:45:08 AM
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Is it not a virtue to perceive yourself and others as one and the same?

...or would it be preferable to treat people as external, manipulable objects?

The Communists say, equal labour entitles man to equal enjoyment. No, equal labour does not entitle you to it, but equal enjoyment alone entitles you to equal enjoyment. Enjoy, then you are entitled to enjoyment. But, if you have laboured and let the enjoyment be taken from you, then – ‘it serves you right.’ If you take the enjoyment, it is your right.
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March 07, 2012, 05:48:16 AM
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Is there a solipsist here, or is it just me?

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March 07, 2012, 05:48:40 AM
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Here's Atlas, with another answer to a question no one asked.

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March 07, 2012, 05:56:12 AM
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Is there a solipsist here, or is it just me?
You/I just like talking to yourself. There's nothing wrong with taking pleasure in it.

The Communists say, equal labour entitles man to equal enjoyment. No, equal labour does not entitle you to it, but equal enjoyment alone entitles you to equal enjoyment. Enjoy, then you are entitled to enjoyment. But, if you have laboured and let the enjoyment be taken from you, then – ‘it serves you right.’ If you take the enjoyment, it is your right.
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March 07, 2012, 07:49:07 AM
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Here's Atlas, with another answer to a question no one asked.

Matthew, why do you respond to every inane thing he says? You lend him credence.

QFT.

Atlas has his good questions and his "Oh I am soo stoned and I'm having such biiiig thoughts" questions.  Best only deal with the good ones.

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March 07, 2012, 08:00:23 AM
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Why aren't you looking!

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March 07, 2012, 08:07:19 AM
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Atlas I can assure you that your mind is not the only thing in existence. I know it can feel like that sometimes, with trolls hounding you 24/7 over all the dumb naive shit you say, but trust me thats not the case.

If you ever want to stop talking to Internet trolls for a change how about you message me.

I feel for you buddy. You need a mentor not a bully.

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March 07, 2012, 08:15:21 AM
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Atlas I can assure you that your mind is not the only thing in existence. I know it can feel like that sometimes, with trolls hounding you 24/7 over all the dumb naive shit you say, but trust me thats not the case.

If you ever want to stop talking to Internet trolls for a change how about you message me.

I feel for you buddy. You need a mentor not a bully.

No, he needs bullies. We've already tried the mentoring stuff and his response was "I don't need people to guide me. I am perfect and have no flaws. I do not need anyone's approval. I am me." or some bullshit.

He also said something like "I demand respect". He's not looking for a mentor Brian. He's looking for fanboys.

And it looks like he just found one! haha. Sucker.

For the record, he's been on this forum for more than a year now whining and threatening to kill himself.

I think it's time we gut him from the community.

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March 07, 2012, 08:25:10 AM
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Atlas I can assure you that your mind is not the only thing in existence. I know it can feel like that sometimes, with trolls hounding you 24/7 over all the dumb naive shit you say, but trust me thats not the case.

If you ever want to stop talking to Internet trolls for a change how about you message me.

I feel for you buddy. You need a mentor not a bully.

No, he needs bullies. We've already tried the mentoring stuff and his response was "I don't need people to guide me. I am perfect and have no flaws. I do not need anyone's approval. I am me." or some bullshit.

He also said something like "I demand respect". He's not looking for a mentor Brian. He's looking for fanboys.

And it looks like he just found one! haha. Sucker.

For the record, he's been on this forum for more than a year now whining and threatening to kill himself.

I think it's time we gut him from the community.
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March 07, 2012, 08:25:17 AM
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Atlas I can assure you that your mind is not the only thing in existence. I know it can feel like that sometimes, with trolls hounding you 24/7 over all the dumb naive shit you say, but trust me thats not the case.

If you ever want to stop talking to Internet trolls for a change how about you message me.

I feel for you buddy. You need a mentor not a bully.
He also said something like "I demand respect". He's not looking for a mentor Brian. He's looking for fanboys.

And it looks like he just found one! haha. Sucker.

I do not respect him, since for me to respect someone, that individual must have accomplished something, and earned it from me.

Respect is earned not given.

I wholeheartedly feel bad for him, and I hate to see someone with so much potential play into the same vicious cycles that have consumed so many...

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March 07, 2012, 08:34:12 AM
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I wholeheartedly feel bad for him, and I hate to see someone with so much potential play into the same vicious cycles that have consumed so many...

What about when he is the vicious cycle and you're being played?

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March 07, 2012, 03:30:18 PM
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Why I am proud to be a solipsist

Someone learnt a new word today.
How cute.

Ditto! http://devernay.free.fr/paradoxlost/html/solipsist.html

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Walter B. Jehovah, for whose name I make no apology since it really was his name, had been a solipsist all his life. A solipsist, in case you don’t happen to know the word, is one who believes that he himself is the only thing that really exists, that other people and the universe in general exist only in his imagination, and that if he quit imagining them, they would cease to exist.
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March 07, 2012, 05:04:44 PM
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I am simply skeptical. Nothing can be truly known except that you perceive and all that is perceived is simply perceptions. Beyond that, nothing can be proven to have intrinsic meaning except, again, that it can be perceived.

Solipsism is a cold hard truth that is so potent, that most people mark it as ridiculous from the start. It is much like when the concept of God came into question.

The Communists say, equal labour entitles man to equal enjoyment. No, equal labour does not entitle you to it, but equal enjoyment alone entitles you to equal enjoyment. Enjoy, then you are entitled to enjoyment. But, if you have laboured and let the enjoyment be taken from you, then – ‘it serves you right.’ If you take the enjoyment, it is your right.
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March 07, 2012, 05:31:18 PM
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I am simply skeptical. Nothing can be truly known except that you perceive and all that is perceived is simply perceptions. Beyond that, nothing can be proven to have intrinsic meaning except, again, that it can be perceived.

Solipsism is a cold hard truth that is so potent, that most people mark it as ridiculous from the start. It is much like when the concept of God came into question.

I am with you on this topic.

However... What is the difference between living in objective world and living in imaginary world? (and if there is no difference, then what are we talking about?)

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March 07, 2012, 05:34:12 PM
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I am simply skeptical. Nothing can be truly known except that you perceive and all that is perceived is simply perceptions. Beyond that, nothing can be proven to have intrinsic meaning except, again, that it can be perceived.

Solipsism is a cold hard truth that is so potent, that most people mark it as ridiculous from the start. It is much like when the concept of God came into question.

I am with you on this topic.

However... What is the difference between living in objective world and living in imaginary world? (and if there is no difference, then what are we talking about?)

Objectivity is simply realizing the boundaries of what can be known.

As for what is imaginary and how one should live, I'll leave that up to you.

The Communists say, equal labour entitles man to equal enjoyment. No, equal labour does not entitle you to it, but equal enjoyment alone entitles you to equal enjoyment. Enjoy, then you are entitled to enjoyment. But, if you have laboured and let the enjoyment be taken from you, then – ‘it serves you right.’ If you take the enjoyment, it is your right.
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March 07, 2012, 05:41:26 PM
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I am simply skeptical. Nothing can be truly known except that you perceive and all that is perceived is simply perceptions. Beyond that, nothing can be proven to have intrinsic meaning except, again, that it can be perceived.

Solipsism is a cold hard truth that is so potent, that most people mark it as ridiculous from the start. It is much like when the concept of God came into question.

I am with you on this topic.

However... What is the difference between living in objective world and living in imaginary world? (and if there is no difference, then what are we talking about?)

Objectivity is simply realizing the boundaries of what can be known.

As for what is imaginary and how one should live, I'll leave that up to you.

I always thought of objectivity as of something that exists independently of our mind.

I think everybody knows that there are false perceptions. What you say is that 100% of perceptions are quite possible to be false and the objective world is not what we perceive (perhaps, it might not exist at all).

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March 07, 2012, 05:48:19 PM
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I am simply skeptical. Nothing can be truly known except that you perceive and all that is perceived is simply perceptions. Beyond that, nothing can be proven to have intrinsic meaning except, again, that it can be perceived.

Solipsism is a cold hard truth that is so potent, that most people mark it as ridiculous from the start. It is much like when the concept of God came into question.

I am with you on this topic.

However... What is the difference between living in objective world and living in imaginary world? (and if there is no difference, then what are we talking about?)

Objectivity is simply realizing the boundaries of what can be known.

As for what is imaginary and how one should live, I'll leave that up to you.

I always thought of objectivity as of something that exists independently of our mind.

I think everybody knows that there are false perceptions. What you say is that 100% of perceptions are quite possible to be false and the objective world is not what we perceive (perhaps, it might not exist at all).


Essentially.

All I am saying is that there is nothing independent of the mind and self. You are limited to one perception. To attempt to independently verify something will require you to merge within another perception. To do such, you either die or become one with another perception.

Either outcome proves nothing for you are either perceiving with additional phenomena  but still remain with your original self -- or you are dead. In the former case, you are still your original perception. Nothing is being independently verified.

As for the latter, death, that remains undefinable to me.

The Communists say, equal labour entitles man to equal enjoyment. No, equal labour does not entitle you to it, but equal enjoyment alone entitles you to equal enjoyment. Enjoy, then you are entitled to enjoyment. But, if you have laboured and let the enjoyment be taken from you, then – ‘it serves you right.’ If you take the enjoyment, it is your right.
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March 07, 2012, 05:53:21 PM
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You cannot be a solipsist because I am!

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March 07, 2012, 06:13:33 PM
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It's a way for you to bear the shame when you masturbate?

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March 07, 2012, 06:30:58 PM
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You cannot be a solipsist because I am!
Assuming you are capable of perceiving, I can only remain a perception to you.

I am content with that as I am only capable of perceiving you.

The Communists say, equal labour entitles man to equal enjoyment. No, equal labour does not entitle you to it, but equal enjoyment alone entitles you to equal enjoyment. Enjoy, then you are entitled to enjoyment. But, if you have laboured and let the enjoyment be taken from you, then – ‘it serves you right.’ If you take the enjoyment, it is your right.
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