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March 09, 2012, 04:16:48 PM |
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You have one of the first bitcoin casinos, you take only bitcoins, and you don't accept US players? That's like ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs18.postimage.org%2Fser45zyx3%2F022.gif&t=665&c=jbHsDbhOcSb-Dw) What is the incentive for your average player to play at your casino, to have all the tables to themselves?
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ssaCEO (OP)
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March 09, 2012, 05:39:55 PM |
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First of all, thanks for the great response from the community! It's nice to see some new players showing up to give the regulars a run for (our) money and liven things up. And thanks for the feedback in this thread. Using a 3rd party to dynamically generate Bitcoin QR codes is dangerous. They could redirect the funds to their own address. Or, they could be compromised by someone who dirverts the funds. This is a great, great idea. I wish we'd thought of it before. Since we're constantly updating and improving our software, we just pushed QR codes out in today's release! And yes - we're generating our own. ... Can you not use a proxy or something? This smells like the People's Republic of America ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Actually I have no idea if it is currently allowed in the EU. Proxy use violates our TOS and we make a good-faith effort to block it to the best of our ability. The site is currently available throughout most of the world, including the EU. Deposits are also not allowed from France or Italy. You have one of the first bitcoin casinos, you take only bitcoins, and you don't accept US players?
Our lawyers tell us that while using Bitcoin may circumvent UIGEA and the Wire Act, it's not a defense against US state laws against gambling. This is not something we have any interest in messing with. There are a couple of other Bitcoin poker rooms and casinos who don't care, and who do operate in the US. We think our site is original, interesting and transparent enough to attract mainstream players worldwide and encourage them to get their first Bitcoins, and that our success will have a knock-on effect that helps American-facing Bitcoin casinos, and vice-versa. The online casino world outside of Bitcoin is immense, and anything that attracts some of those players to the currency can only be good for all of us. We therefore don't see ourselves in direct competition with the US-facing sites. We wish them the best, but aren't comfortable taking the legal risks they do.
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hazek
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March 09, 2012, 05:54:04 PM |
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Could you please address my post? I would sign up and play but I don't want to give out my name or any of my other info. Can I do that?
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My personality type: INTJ - please forgive my weaknesses (Not naturally in tune with others feelings; may be insensitive at times, tend to respond to conflict with logic and reason, tend to believe I'm always right)
If however you enjoyed my post: 15j781DjuJeVsZgYbDVt2NZsGrWKRWFHpp
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ssaCEO (OP)
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March 09, 2012, 07:30:56 PM |
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Could you please address my post? I would sign up and play but I don't want to give out my name or any of my other info. Can I do that?
Sorry. I meant to address this. I knew I was forgetting something... You do need to provide an email address to receive a verification email, as well as your country, which you have to answer honestly. Yes, you can sign up for an account with a fake name; StrikeSapphire doesn't freeze accounts for that. Many, if not most of our players use fake names without any problems. We do reserve the right to request identifying information from a player at any time prior to withdrawal of winnings, but we respect our patrons' wishes for anonymity as far as possible without creating problems for ourselves. Therefore the ID rule exists in our TOS only so it can be applied if absolutely necessary. To know whether it could apply to you, consider that we have three primary reasons for ever requesting identity verification: 1. If we think a player might be in the United States, and need to verify that they are not. 2. If we think a player has opened multiple accounts to stack poker tournaments in their favor. 3. If we have reason to think a player is under 18. We attempt to make this process as invisible as possible to the player. So the short answer is, go ahead and sign up as anonymously as you'd like to. If you try to deposit and see a warning asking you to contact us first, then your account threw a red flag and caused us, in one way or another, to need more information before we allow you to place real-money bets. And again, such an occurrence is extremely rare for non-US players.
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hazek
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March 09, 2012, 07:34:53 PM |
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Ok, that sounds reasonable to me. Thanks!
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My personality type: INTJ - please forgive my weaknesses (Not naturally in tune with others feelings; may be insensitive at times, tend to respond to conflict with logic and reason, tend to believe I'm always right)
If however you enjoyed my post: 15j781DjuJeVsZgYbDVt2NZsGrWKRWFHpp
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TYDIRocks
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April 06, 2012, 03:41:01 AM |
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You seem like a very professional website, and I wish you luck. Sadly, I live in the US.
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June 23, 2012, 12:31:03 AM |
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You can generate a qr code using javascript if you don't want to tax your server. That is what I do on coinsmack.com
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June 25, 2012, 01:53:54 PM |
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I'm in the USSA too, but I wish you luck!!!
Can you not use a proxy or something? This smells like the People's Republic of America ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Actually I have no idea if it is currently allowed in the EU. Most of EU and in UK gambling is ok.Proxy use is ok as well.Outside the US, things are a little more forgiving in terms of being free to gamble.I hope this helps you. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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ssaCEO (OP)
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June 27, 2012, 12:31:59 PM |
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Yes: Online gambling is legal in the UK and most of Europe. Proxy use is ok as well.
This is bad advice. Proxy use is forbidden on StrikeSapphire. We take all reasonable measures to prevent it (as well as some unreasonable ones). Moreover, it's a violation of our TOS, and any account we believe to be using a proxy for the purpose of circumventing national laws will be frozen and ID verification required to unlock it.
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June 27, 2012, 10:12:22 PM |
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Yes: Online gambling is legal in the UK and most of Europe. Proxy use is ok as well.
This is bad advice. Proxy use is forbidden on StrikeSapphire. We take all reasonable measures to prevent it (as well as some unreasonable ones). Moreover, it's a violation of our TOS, and any account we believe to be using a proxy for the purpose of circumventing national laws will be frozen and ID verification required to unlock it. He has to say that, otherwise his ass is on the line.
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Raoul Duke
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June 27, 2012, 10:42:19 PM |
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Yes: Online gambling is legal in the UK and most of Europe. Proxy use is ok as well.
This is bad advice. Proxy use is forbidden on StrikeSapphire. We take all reasonable measures to prevent it (as well as some unreasonable ones). Moreover, it's a violation of our TOS, and any account we believe to be using a proxy for the purpose of circumventing national laws will be frozen and ID verification required to unlock it. He has to say that, otherwise his ass is on the line. Oh, he's not just "saying" it. He really means it.
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June 29, 2012, 01:08:29 AM |
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quick boost for strikesapphire - They currently have the best Keno implementation out of all sites - the animations are awesome. It would be even more awesome with a lower min bet ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Their bonus poker game is a lot of fun as well.
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June 29, 2012, 01:55:01 AM |
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quick boost for strikesapphire
I tried telling you on your own thread, but you didn't seem to notice. You have the max bet for blackjack wrong in your listing for sapphire. It's $15, not $5, for new players, and goes up to $25 once you've played a certain amount. Edit: look, proof! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYmM2b.png&t=665&c=7nsSpR5fs0gGhQ)
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June 29, 2012, 04:18:56 AM |
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quick boost for strikesapphire
I tried telling you on your own thread, but you didn't seem to notice. You have the max bet for blackjack wrong in your listing for sapphire. It's $15, not $5, for new players, and goes up to $25 once you've played a certain amount. Edit: look, proof! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYmM2b.png&t=665&c=7nsSpR5fs0gGhQ) Thanks mate, fixing now ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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dooglus
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July 04, 2012, 08:07:25 PM |
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There are now hourly freerolls on Strike Sapphire, but nobody's playing them: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fkj3Th.png&t=665&c=rnrxwKTB8-zuSQ) They run whenever 3 or more people sign up. The prize pool is $0.50 each hour (or about 76 seals chips ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ).
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dooglus
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July 11, 2012, 08:15:54 PM |
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The thread I'm replying to was temporarily unlocked then relocked again before I could reply, so I'm posting here instead. I hope that's acceptable. If the original thread is ever unlocked I'll move this post there. We do not know, and cannot know, the full truth about the dooglus / petrescuerz situation. We do not believe that petrescuerz is an imaginary person, but we also don't believe that she has always been in control of that account. Dooglus has asked me to retract the post calling him a liar, and her imaginary. I'll say that she is not imaginary. Whether she's the person who was playing on his computer is impossible to know.
So to be clear you're not retracting the part about me being a liar? Beyond that, I'm reluctant to alter the history of this thread and would prefer it to be removed completely, as he and I have both asked the mods to do.
I have asked for no such thing. Where do you get this stuff from? We have asked him to leave, and he's elected to take his friends, referrals, et. al. with him and send a lot of emails and chats to people criticizing me, which is his right.
I didn't elect to take them with me, you asked me to. Remember the following? From now on, I'd prefer that you (plural) don't play. And if petrescuerz cashes out and you guys take your business elsewhere, that would be better for everybody. I don't want you or your friends around anymore.
I contacted my friends, giving them a link to this thread so they could see what was going on. I agree that it makes you look bad, but I don't think any of that is my doing. I apologize for losing my temper in this thread. This is not however an invitation to keep trolling this thread, or an apology for what I've written here. Nor is this an invitation for anyone to come back to the site. He is simply not invited anymore, and we won't change our mind on the subject.
Dooglus would like this thread removed. I have no objection to that, and I have asked the moderators to do so if that's within their power.
I don't want the thread removed. I want it to stand as a warning to potential customers to the type of treatment they can expect to receive from your company. It's quite incredible how badly you have managed this. If you had any doubts about the identity of the players at your site you should have spoken to them. I'm sure they would have been happy to video chat with you, send you copies of passports, driving licenses, or whatever. To post an attacking rant like you did is simply unprofessional and offensive.
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ssaCEO (OP)
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July 11, 2012, 08:53:56 PM |
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I'm totally fine with letting that thread stand if you don't want it removed.
Are you done now?
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dooglus
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July 11, 2012, 09:01:27 PM Last edit: July 11, 2012, 09:15:26 PM by dooglus |
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I'm totally fine with letting that thread stand if you don't want it removed.
Are you done now?
I would prefer to be able to refute your claims in the thread in which you made them. I also wish you would tell the truth, rather than this talk of me wanting threads deleted and electing to take my friends with me.
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July 12, 2012, 05:34:01 AM Last edit: July 12, 2012, 09:41:07 AM by mem |
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Hi guys, its mem - the beloved & hated gambling list maintainer.
Dooglus FYI site operators from several sites contacted me over a month ago with concerns regarding your (and 2 other members) activities, mainly potential referral abuse. EDIT: It was actually PSY that I had emails and PM's regarding, sorry Dooglus. I defended you saying I had seen nothing on the forums to demonstrate you were abusing anything but I did acknowledge that the descriptions of the refereed accounts and their activities did sound like someone purposefully generating accounts to collect referrals.
That being said, abusing a system is not cheating, though it is a sleazy practice at best.
The site admins should take steps to ensure their systems are abuse proof, this has the unfortunate side effect of drastically reducing referral bonuses (which is what I believe SS is trying to avoid) but if the system is being constantly abused by a few bad eggs then its time to change (as the users will just create new accounts and use new IP's).
SS should ban as they see fit, personally were I suspecting the players of what they described Id simply eat the accounts value, blame hackers (you gots keylogged bro !!!) and let them cry about it on the forums.
My advice for sites wishing to avoid having dicks abuse your refferals is to only pay a % of the 1st N bitcoins lost for that account.
eg: A refers B. B cashes in X 20 B loses 5 b Cashes out Y 15 A receives ( X - Y ) * percent.
and I would only do this for the 1st N rounds (a round being cash in and cash out cycle).
ssaCEO - You have my continued support. Its a shame to see how this latest issue was handled but shit happens as they say. Might I recommend next time simply politely refusing service instead of feeding the trolls (if dooglus was trolling).
StrikeSapphire has a really professional finish to the site, the bonuses and freerolls are some of the best in the bitcoin community.
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July 12, 2012, 05:38:42 AM |
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That being said, abusing a system is not cheating, though it is a sleazy practice at best. Just like if I and my girlfriend were to play side by side showing each other our hands during a poker tournament.
No, that's cheating.
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