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March 25, 2015, 01:57:31 AM
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Nice one Pakage!  Wink
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March 25, 2015, 02:50:24 AM
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Anonymous Network Decentralisation

One of the next major steps for Navajocoin is to decentralise the anonymous nodes so that anyone running a webserver can install it and process Anonymous transactions. Make no mistake, the current system runs off the Navajo Subchain which is built using decentralised blockchain technology. However there are obvious concerns in publishing the node technology due to the risk of someone altering the code maliciously. We are currently investigating options on how to approach this so we can truly decentralise the node system.

Thank you Pakage for making this crystal clear.

Yep, we've had a few discussions on how to do this already. Probably the best idea so far is to port the processing scripts to a language which can be compiled. Something like Node.JS or Java would do nicely. Then before a wallet sends a transaction to a particular node, it would run a checksum against the compiled file and compare the result against a masternode's checksum. Then if they both match, it means that the files have been unaltered and it is safe to send the transaction to that node for processing.

Until we can guarantee a method which is unbreakable and unalterable, we can't distribute the processing code. It is high on our agenda though.

For now, we have a setup multiple nodes across multiple web hosts of which one is chosen at random. So it is somewhat decentralised already, even if not publicly.

Awesome!  Thank you!
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March 25, 2015, 02:58:43 AM
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We seriously just flew past a few planets  Cheesy
Next stop is Pluto
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March 25, 2015, 03:24:51 AM
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Anonymous Network Decentralisation

One of the next major steps for Navajocoin is to decentralise the anonymous nodes so that anyone running a webserver can install it and process Anonymous transactions. Make no mistake, the current system runs off the Navajo Subchain which is built using decentralised blockchain technology. However there are obvious concerns in publishing the node technology due to the risk of someone altering the code maliciously. We are currently investigating options on how to approach this so we can truly decentralise the node system.

Thank you Pakage for making this crystal clear.

Yep, we've had a few discussions on how to do this already. Probably the best idea so far is to port the processing scripts to a language which can be compiled. Something like Node.JS or Java would do nicely. Then before a wallet sends a transaction to a particular node, it would run a checksum against the compiled file and compare the result against a masternode's checksum. Then if they both match, it means that the files have been unaltered and it is safe to send the transaction to that node for processing.

Until we can guarantee a method which is unbreakable and unalterable, we can't distribute the processing code. It is high on our agenda though.

For now, we have a setup multiple nodes across multiple web hosts of which one is chosen at random. So it is somewhat decentralised already, even if not publicly.

Awesome!  Thank you!
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And, as I said in my post on the project roadmap and i would like to reiterate it here again; We can't currently distribute the node scripts until we can integrity check every node that a user sets up (for obvious security reasons). However, the current system is running as per the whitepaper and it uses the decentralised navajo subchain to pass value from the incoming nodes to outgoing nodes and instruct the outgoing node who to send the coins to and how many to send.

The Navajo Anonymous Network does NOT rely on a centralised database to store transaction values and addresses.

It is NOT simply a coin mixer with master nodes.

So even if the system were to get wiped out, we could set it back up by simply restoring the subchain wallet and the script, then the wallet would re-sync and start processing any pending transactions again since the data is decentralised on the block chain and not stored in a database.

I hope everyone has taken the time to read the whitepaper, even if it is reasonably technical and boring.

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March 25, 2015, 03:38:13 AM
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^^^^^^^^^

what is this homework?? I didnt come to the forum to read!! Undecided Grin

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March 25, 2015, 03:47:24 AM
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^^^^^^^^^

what is this homework?? I didnt come to the forum to read!! Undecided Grin

Here's the short version:



The main points being steps 6 - 8 in regards to using the block chain of the sub chain to transmit the destination information and amount from entry to exit nodes.

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March 25, 2015, 03:54:20 AM
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Look

http://www.dailycoinnews.com/2014/11/01/bots-and-conspiracy-do-they-really-exist/


If you were trading on Bittrex lately then you should already know about the sudden declines of the price that occur periodically. Many speculations have been made about a conspiracy that runs bots on online exchanges and spread fud in the bitcointalk forums to accumulate more coins by driving the price down. Others say this is completely natural. Lucky for all of us some people watch closely the charts so they can give a proper explanation to the whole story. James who is also known as jl777 in the Bitcoin community is trying to figure it out and in the meantime updates the BitcoinDark community with observations that he comes across. The next part of this article is some of the observations that James shared with the rest of the BitcoinDark community.

 

    “There is a bot that is ACTIVELY manipulating the price.
    quite effectively too.
    If you look at the price on bitcoinwisdom, you will see that there is a pretty even spread of asks all bunched together, within 10 satoshis!
    About 5 BTC. This makes a barrier and also crowds out the orderbook so you cant see what is really going on. It is also chaging things several times per second to create the impression of a lot of activity. What it does is pushes the price down by clearing out small bids and making lower and lower asks.
    Earlier there was about 10 BTC in 30+ orders around .0049 and 3 BTC between that and .008
    So, there is no investor panic going on. It is just one guy running a bot. And he is doing this on many different coins.
    His game is this.
    Have the bot on bittrex and cryptsy, but run just one of them at a time. Create some FUD push the price down on one (easier to create fear, especially in a bear market) then as people get convinced everybody is selling, they start selling. Remember this is just happening on one market. So soon the sell price on one exchange is lower than the buy price on the other exchange where the bot is idle. Guaranteed profits! Then the bots switch.
    so first one exchange price is pushed down. arbitraged, then the other. Doing this it creates these mysterious price declines as we are making such good progress. All the way down to .005! But there was really very little for sale below .008 as this operation is being done on dozens of coins, so only so much budget per coin.
    Now this bot is not caring about price at all. Whatever the price is, it just picks the exchange with the lower price, pushes is down until it can arbitrage. The arbitraging evens the price out and then the pushing starts again. Now this bot stays away from even a 1 BTC wall from what I have seen and certainly anything larger it stays about 10% away from. However if there is no big wall, it happily startings pushing the price down, even filling some orders if they are small enough.
    These bots are probably on autopilot, so that means a clever person will be able to trick the bot.
    tl:dr now that whale dumper is gone, recent price decline is caused by one guy’s bots and a few BTC wall will keep it at bay. Maybe we can come up with a way to beat it and win 1 BTC per day from it. then it will certainly go away

     

    James”
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March 25, 2015, 03:55:36 AM
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The cryptsy NAV wallet is still under maintenance? that's really bad.  Huh Huh

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March 25, 2015, 04:04:46 AM
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Current PR Articles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXSHdWvnyNc

http://www.guugll.eu/navajocoin-the-unbreakable-code/

http://247cryptonews.com/navajo-cryptocurrency-decentralized-anonymity-through-double-encryption/

http://www.btcfeed.net/coins/navajocoin-state-art-anonymous-network-now-beta-testing/

http://btcfeed.net/coins/navajocoin-introducing-anon-transfers-using-subchains/

http://btcfeed.net/news/navajocoin-asynchronous-encryption-technology-released-today/

https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/32939-btcfeed-navajocoin-asynchronous-encryption-technology-to-be-released-today/

http://www.bitdaily.com/news/navajocoin-asynchronous-encryption-technology-be-released-today-btcfeednet

http://www.altcoincalendar.info/r/article/6xx

https://cryptoinfinity.com/Thread-World-News-BTCFEED-%E2%86%92-Navajocoin-Asynchronous-Encryption-Technology-To-Be-Released-Today

http://www.coinssource.com/crypto-coins/navajocoin/

http://bitnewz.net/News/Article/Navajocoin--Asynchronous-encryption-technology-to-be-released-today

http://news.guugll.com/navajocoin-the-unbreakable-code

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Thanks for the extremely strong BUY WALL - WOW  Grin

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March 25, 2015, 05:23:19 AM
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We need to wait until drk pump over
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March 25, 2015, 05:27:12 AM
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We need to wait until drk pump over

I think so! I have learnt more today - then I have known in the past 9 months  Cheesy
Everything is in Good Order....

hashforce101 needs to learn patients again  Cheesy

Bye I have done all I can do - which im happy with!  Grin
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March 25, 2015, 05:48:13 AM
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Yeah once the small children have sold we can move forward. I think it's just best to pause every thing for a couple of Months. Shake the week hands then we can play the big league. At the moment the kids are playing  and finally are selling so they can buy there I phone 6 +.

One guy was screaming why the price not going up.I asked how much Coins you have. He replied $56 worth. I fell off my chair.



Did you mention me?

Yes I have very small amount, but I believe that NAV will help me to recover.

Yesterday I bought a little bit more NAVs

No doubts, this coin is one of the brightest stars on crypto scene for next months!!!
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March 25, 2015, 05:55:30 AM
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Some big sells coming in below 3k sat now! Not sure if these walls will hold the panic dump Grin
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March 25, 2015, 05:57:15 AM
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Some big sells coming in below 3k sat now! Not sure if these walls will hold the panic dump Grin

its like when your stomach rumbles - its amazing to watch - I dont ms a beat  Cheesy

its amazing to watch the worlds best traders do there thing
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March 25, 2015, 06:12:31 AM
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Some big sells coming in below 3k sat now! Not sure if these walls will hold the panic dump Grin

This is the next day of accumulation. Fishes are searching for plankton to feed themselves, pretending a plankton itself.  Grin

You have opened my eyes brother - to a picture bigger the big picture  Wink

im glad I invested in NavajoCoin!
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March 25, 2015, 06:22:20 AM
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what if...

NAV reaches DRK market cap. Expected price is 0.002 btc.

Taking into account that NAV is on it's starting position, division by 10 brings the price to 0.0002btc. So, with active devs and community, 10k is achievable in the next couple of days.
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March 25, 2015, 06:22:52 AM
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Dump that baby down and we all get cheap coins!!
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March 25, 2015, 06:25:49 AM
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what if...

NAV reaches DRK market cap. Expected price is 0.002 btc.

Taking into account that NAV is on it's starting position, division by 10 brings the price to 0.0002btc. So, with active devs and community, 10k is achievable in the next couple of days.

Not gonna happen my friend.

Gonna need alot of new investors to reach 10k. Thats where good PR would help now.
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March 25, 2015, 07:08:00 AM
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what if...

NAV reaches DRK market cap. Expected price is 0.002 btc.

Taking into account that NAV is on it's starting position, division by 10 brings the price to 0.0002btc. So, with active devs and community, 10k is achievable in the next couple of days.

Not gonna happen my friend.

Gonna need alot of new investors to reach 10k. Thats where good PR would help now.

Yes and no!

Good marketing is listing at bittrex first page, so players are playing with volume. 10k can happen in 10-15 minutes, if group decides to pump. So, give them more coins as  soon as possible to get the price higher.
Someone will scream that I spread FUD, but that is reality.
If pumps goes hand in hand with developments and PR, then it results in success.

Once more- dont believe in large dumps, dont fall for that!!!

Be happy, NAV holders, to see a coin at trex chart in one of top places.
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