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March 12, 2012, 12:59:47 PM Last edit: March 21, 2012, 04:21:32 PM by Dhomochevsky |
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LAST UPDATED: March 21stAs the title says,what is, in your opinion, the best selling board? Icarus? X6500? Ztex? The BFL single is popular on the forums but afaik only a few have been shipped so far. Is there any way we can get some hard numbers on the models? Maybe buyers chiming in to tell us how many did they purchase... For example, so far I got 2 3 Icarus boards and plan to get another five thirty sometime in the next couple of months. Will update the first post with results if enough people contribute to the thread. As of now, some (probably highly inaccurate) estimations are: 1st place: Icarus, with 260 boards shipped (all confirmed). FORUM THREAD BOARD DISCONTINUED, TO BE REPLACED IN MAY WITH NEW "LANCELOT" MODEL, SEE THREAD2nd place: X6500, with over 100 boards shipped (100 confirmed, 100 more shipping). FORUM THREAD3rd place: ZTex, with over 100 boards shipped (94 confirmed). FORUM THREAD4th place: BFL Single, with around 50 units shipped (about 20 confirmed). FORUM THREADCaveat: These are not to be taken as "official figures". They are gathered from various buyers on the forums and most likely they only vaguely represent the actual sales.Feel free to comment and correct me if you have better figures.
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March 12, 2012, 07:15:58 PM |
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60 ztex 1.15x, pushing ~12.5 GH, 690 watts at the plug
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Dhomochevsky (OP)
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March 12, 2012, 07:18:59 PM |
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All right, since this thread takes off really slow, i gathered a few numbers and I decided to toss them here to get the ball rolling. Keep in mind, these are mostly guesstimates, so feel free to correct me and I'll update the figures.
We currently have 4 existing FPGA designs in the wild:
- Icarus
So far 2 batches of them are completely sold out, with the third one selling as we speak. The first batch had around 20 or 30 boards and the second had 30. That's 50-60 boards. The third batch is safe to say it has around or close to 100 boards - I've seen people on the forums mentioning they ordered bulk amounts of 30 or more boards; ngzhang mentioned at one point that "a package of 120 spartan chips" in customs, and that was only part of the shipment. So we have >150 boards sold so far for the Icarus design.
- X6500
These babies sold 2 revisions already and the third is slated to start shipment soon (if it hasn't already). My guess is their figures are pretty close to Icarus, maybe even a tie, judging by the popularity of the board on the forums (which is pretty much the same as Icarus). However, they went to market sooner than Icarus so it's quite likely they overtook them in sales. Again, if i'm spewing crap here feel free to call me out on it, I'm interested in real numbers. So, X6500 sold >150 boards too, maybe much more and they lead the sales.
- ZTex
Whatever the situation above, this board design definitely takes third place. It's a single chip board and garnered a little less interest than the first two. My hunches tell me it sold in or around the 100 boards mark, but I can be wrong. CAcoins mentions 60 boards, so bulk orders might inflate the number well over 100 units sold. I'm pretty sure though it takes only the third place when opposed by the likes of Icarus and X6500.
- BFL Single
This is definitely the LEAST sold design. It just came out of the laboratory and started shipping recently, people have been waiting for it for months. Only a few are working in the wild as of now (less than ten?) but if production ramps up, its low price per MH might put it head to head with the leading designs pretty soon.
So these are the four designs floating around right now. Did I forget anything? You feel the numbers are wrong? Then speak your mind.
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March 12, 2012, 07:42:06 PM |
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I am sure BFL has SOLD a lot more than 10 boards. They may not have delivered as many as the competitors but they certainly have SOLD a lot (at least anecdotally based on forum posts).
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Dhomochevsky (OP)
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March 12, 2012, 07:50:02 PM |
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Yes, I figured they sold a whole bunch, but people were complaining about not receiving them/delivery taking a long time. I threw that figure there based on some extremely lax estimations of Singles in the wild. That's why I ask people to mention here some hard figures, so we can have something to base estimations on.
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BlackPrapor
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March 12, 2012, 08:24:05 PM |
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If you really want to compare those models as which is the most selling, I think it'd be best to draw an excel chart of sales per month, for each model. Would be interesting.
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Dhomochevsky (OP)
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March 12, 2012, 09:47:42 PM |
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If you really want to compare those models as which is the most selling, I think it'd be best to draw an excel chart of sales per month, for each model. Would be interesting. Yeah, sales figures per month would be nice to have, but right now we don't have exact sales figures overall... We could start charting from now on if people contribute data. Add new models as they appear, remove deprecated models as they fade away etc. @nyana: That's a nice setup you have there, looks like there's room for 20 pieces there . It appears we have at least 74 confirmed ztex boards.
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rupy
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March 13, 2012, 12:43:58 AM |
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I think this might be as easy as to ask the sources directly no? I mean they all have companies that pay taxes, that can be viewed by anyone, so hiding this data is useless.
BTW: 5x ZTEX
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March 13, 2012, 12:47:02 AM |
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I think this might be as easy as to ask the sources directly no? I mean they all have companies that pay taxes, that can be viewed by anyone, so hiding this data is useless.
BTW: 5x ZTEX
Companies may have good reasons to play their cards close to the chest, for various reasons such as not wanting to give their competitors any information into lot sizes and price breaks etc. So, typically, such information will not be disclosed.
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Glasswalker
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March 13, 2012, 12:58:27 AM |
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I can say the Bitcoin Syndicate just bought 17x Icarus, which have been shipped on the 11th and are en route now, if that helps your tally.
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March 13, 2012, 03:42:02 AM |
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My BFL Single arrived last Thursday
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Dhomochevsky (OP)
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March 13, 2012, 08:15:18 AM |
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I think this might be as easy as to ask the sources directly no? I mean they all have companies that pay taxes, that can be viewed by anyone, so hiding this data is useless.
BTW: 5x ZTEX
Companies may have good reasons to play their cards close to the chest, for various reasons such as not wanting to give their competitors any information into lot sizes and price breaks etc. So, typically, such information will not be disclosed. This. Asking people details about their business might make things awkward for them. If they wish to disclose their exact numbers they can do so freely, but I don't presume to think they have an obligation to do so. Therefore we'll just gather whatever sparse and barely accurate info we can from the clients . Now, I know that the first two batches of Icarus boards were around the 60 mark. I bought 2 from the third batch, Glasswalker confirms 17. I saw people mentioning bulk orders on the thread, one of them said something about 30 boards. So we have around 100 confirmed shipped. Will update the numbers. Any X6500 buyers care to pitch in?
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March 14, 2012, 01:12:35 AM |
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Why on earth would the manufacturers reveal sales data on an anonymous message board?
This topic is ridiculous and somewhat childish.
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Dhomochevsky (OP)
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March 14, 2012, 01:42:46 AM |
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As mentioned before, nobody is asking the manufacturers to release sales numbers. I just want a general tally of popularity on currently shipping FPGA designs.
Updated figures for BFL Single.
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fizzisist
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March 16, 2012, 09:03:10 AM |
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I'm not opposed to letting you know our sales figures. We've sold 100 X6500s so far, and have another 100 produced that will start shipping very soon.
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rupy
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March 16, 2012, 10:58:07 AM |
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I'm not opposed to letting you know our sales figures. We've sold 100 X6500s so far, and have another 100 produced that will start shipping very soon.
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March 16, 2012, 03:21:17 PM |
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I'm not opposed to letting you know our sales figures. We've sold 100 X6500s so far, and have another 100 produced that will start shipping very soon.
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Dhomochevsky (OP)
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March 16, 2012, 03:56:31 PM |
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Hey, that's nice! Thanks for the info! Will update the first post.
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March 16, 2012, 11:12:53 PM |
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My BFL Single arrived last Thursday
When did you order it, and was it exactly 4 to 6 weeks or more?
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