Australian judge says incest may no longer be a taboo

[Wilikon]

Judge in Australia says incest may no longer be a taboo and the only reason it is criminal is potential birth abnormalities, which can be solved by abortion



A judge in Australia has been criticised after saying incest may no longer be a taboo and that the community may now accept consensual sex between adult siblings.

Judge Garry Neilson, from the district court in the state of New South Wales, likened incest to homosexuality, which was once regarded as criminal and "unnatural" but is now widely accepted.

He said incest was now only a crime because it may lead to abnormalities in offspring but this rationale was increasingly irrelevant because of the availability of contraception and abortion.
"A jury might find nothing untoward in the advance of a brother towards his sister once she had sexually matured, had sexual relationships with other men and was now 'available', not having [a] sexual partner," the judge said.
"If this was the 1950s and you had a jury of 12 men there, which is what you'd invariably have, they would say it's unnatural for a man to be interested in another man or a man being interested in a boy. Those things have gone."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/10958728/Australian-judge-says-incest-may-no-longer-be-a-taboo.html

[ensurance982]

It is still taboo for the public and even abortion is still considered a taboo for many countries and it will be in the future, unless you are European royalty, they do it for many generations until they cannot even chew food.

[Chef Ramsay]

It's all good down under ya know what I mean.

[Nemo1024]

His statement was not just about incest, but also included paedophile behaviour:
http://rt.com/news/171868-australia-judge-incest-homosexuality/

[spazzdla]

His statement was not just about incest, but also included paedophile behaviour:
http://rt.com/news/171868-australia-judge-incest-homosexuality/

A legit pedo or men attracted to 16yo's... because that shit ain't pedo.  People attracted to kids is messed up.. people attracted to teens is not.. until 100 years ago the lords of this planet would marry 14-16yo's... we've just recently decided this is wrong.
It's always been super messed up to go after a 7yo.. that's some messed up shit....

[gweedo]

His statement was not just about incest, but also included paedophile behaviour:
http://rt.com/news/171868-australia-judge-incest-homosexuality/

A legit pedo or men attracted to 16yo's... because that shit ain't pedo.  People attracted to kids is messed up.. people attracted to teens is not.. until 100 years ago the lords of this planet would marry 14-16yo's... we've just recently decided this is wrong.
It's always been super messed up to go after a 7yo.. that's some messed up shit....

Caveman just raped females, so that should be legal too.

[spazzdla]

His statement was not just about incest, but also included paedophile behaviour:
http://rt.com/news/171868-australia-judge-incest-homosexuality/

A legit pedo or men attracted to 16yo's... because that shit ain't pedo.  People attracted to kids is messed up.. people attracted to teens is not.. until 100 years ago the lords of this planet would marry 14-16yo's... we've just recently decided this is wrong.
It's always been super messed up to go after a 7yo.. that's some messed up shit....

Caveman just raped females, so that should be legal too.

THE ATTACK OF THE STRAWMAN

[Spendulus]

Judge in Australia says incest may no longer be a taboo and the only reason it is criminal is potential birth abnormalities, which can be solved by abortion



A judge in Australia has been criticised after saying incest may no longer be a taboo and that the community may now accept consensual sex between adult siblings.

Judge Garry Neilson, from the district court in the state of New South Wales, likened incest to homosexuality, which was once regarded as criminal and "unnatural" but is now widely accepted.

He said incest was now only a crime because it may lead to abnormalities in offspring but this rationale was increasingly irrelevant because of the availability of contraception and abortion.
"A jury might find nothing untoward in the advance of a brother towards his sister once she had sexually matured, had sexual relationships with other men and was now 'available', not having [a] sexual partner," the judge said.
"If this was the 1950s and you had a jury of 12 men there, which is what you'd invariably have, they would say it's unnatural for a man to be interested in another man or a man being interested in a boy. Those things have gone."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/10958728/Australian-judge-says-incest-may-no-longer-be-a-taboo.html

NO.

There's a lot of perfectly valid concerns about psychological damage from various forms of incest and or sexual behavior with say 14-18 year olds.

This exists in addition to the long understood issues of inbreeding.

[counter]

So if a sibling couple has a child would it then be considered taboo and a criminal offense?  Don't know why the judge wouldn't just say it should not be a criminal offense and just leave it at that but that is just me.

[Lethn]

Wtf? o_O

[Fiyasko]

His statement was not just about incest, but also included paedophile behaviour:
http://rt.com/news/171868-australia-judge-incest-homosexuality/

A legit pedo or men attracted to 16yo's... because that shit ain't pedo.  People attracted to kids is messed up.. people attracted to teens is not.. until 100 years ago the lords of this planet would marry 14-16yo's... we've just recently decided this is wrong.
It's always been super messed up to go after a 7yo.. that's some messed up shit....

I've got to agree with you on this... Below double digits? GOTO PRISON, In the double digits? It's Tolerable...
But people should show Zero sexual attraction to youth below the double digits, they're simply too young, and shouldn't be concered, confused or worried about such... Things like pregnancy
People only lived around 30-50 years a while ago, so if you wanted grandkids you'd need to have one "pedophile" in the family...
Seriously, What the fuck is with this magical "you must be 18, 18 is the point where you've made up your mind/can think for yourself?"
We've all seen really bad criminal related things where anyone pretty much has their will broken and they are turned to a slave *shudders*
"12 Years a slave" anyone?

My "point" is that Alot, perhaps even the majority of earth, is attracted to youth around the age of 14+ and have been for a long time
Then out of nowhere, Porn comes out, and it suddenly becomes illegal/wrong/fucked up to be attracted to that person

If your issue about Incest is the "warped mind" factor, then shouldn't you preech about how Stepfathers/Mothers take advantage of their "sons/daughters"?
Seriously people have Groomed a Slave-like woman and married them, legally, just because it was a Stepdaughter, That is some fucked up shit.

[Wilikon]

So if a sibling couple has a child would it then be considered taboo and a criminal offense?  Don't know why the judge wouldn't just say it should not be a criminal offense and just leave it at that but that is just me.

So if a father daughter couple has a child would it then be considered taboo and a criminal offense?

[Wilikon]

His statement was not just about incest, but also included paedophile behaviour:
http://rt.com/news/171868-australia-judge-incest-homosexuality/

A legit pedo or men attracted to 16yo's... because that shit ain't pedo.  People attracted to kids is messed up.. people attracted to teens is not.. until 100 years ago the lords of this planet would marry 14-16yo's... we've just recently decided this is wrong.
It's always been super messed up to go after a 7yo.. that's some messed up shit....

I've got to agree with you on this... Below double digits? GOTO PRISON, In the double digits? It's Tolerable...
But people should show Zero sexual attraction to youth below the double digits, they're simply too young, and shouldn't be concered, confused or worried about such... Things like pregnancy
People only lived around 30-50 years a while ago, so if you wanted grandkids you'd need to have one "pedophile" in the family...
Seriously, What the fuck is with this magical "you must be 18, 18 is the point where you've made up your mind/can think for yourself?"
We've all seen really bad criminal related things where anyone pretty much has their will broken and they are turned to a slave *shudders*
"12 Years a slave" anyone?

My "point" is that Alot, perhaps even the majority of earth, is attracted to youth around the age of 14+ and have been for a long time
Then out of nowhere, Porn comes out, and it suddenly becomes illegal/wrong/fucked up to be attracted to that person

If your issue about Incest is the "warped mind" factor, then shouldn't you preech about how Stepfathers/Mothers take advantage of their "sons/daughters"?
Seriously people have Groomed a Slave-like woman and married them, legally, just because it was a Stepdaughter, That is some fucked up shit.

What was the name of that famous director who married his adopted daughter again?

[Brewins]

Incest not being crime would be a perfect excuse for rapist fathers get away without consequences.


But pedo law is indeed desproportional, I don't think that feel sexually atracted by girls like this ones:





Makes you a crimimal or mentally ill

[NapoleonBonaparte]

Controversial issue should be left to community and family to decide, since it is the community and family who will ultimate bear the consequences of their own action.

[Wilikon]

Controversial issue should be left to community and family to decide, since it is the community and family who will ultimate bear the consequences of their own action.

Can the child born from an incestuous relationship have a vote in deciding in that community too or does that child get automatically aborted so not to have a voice?

[BCEmporium]

My philosophy about others' sexual life is plain simple:

As long as isn't rape and all parties are there in consent I just move away (unless I'm one of the parties that is).

[Daniel91]

Australian judge says incest may no longer be a taboo
I find this statement very shocking.
In today's society, with a lot confusion and moral issues, I think that we need some kind of moral agreement what is good and what is bad from moral side and put this understanding in law.
If judges, as pillars of our societies, have doubts about this basic moral things and values, i think that human socviety have no fiuture, at least not in today's form.

[libivan]

No State should be allowed to try to impose any moral belief system on a people. It is not the function of the Penal Law to pass moral judgements.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law#Criminal_law)
Criminal law, also known as penal law, pertains to crimes and punishment. It thus regulates the definition of and penalties for offences found to have a sufficiently deleterious social impact but, in itself, makes no moral judgment on an offender nor imposes restrictions on society that physically prevent people from committing a crime in the first place.

[Brewins]

Incest killed the ancient Egypt, Rome and all civilizations that let it happen. Or the sign they are about to be destroyed was the incest.

I have no doubt where it will end.