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May 01, 2011, 03:01:40 AM
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Looks like some Russian dudes are not fond of mtgox, and based on what has been posted on this forum so far, it is difficult to exclude btcex from having something to do with it.

The decision I'm taking now is a "temporary shutdown of mtgox" until the appropriate protections against this kind of DDoS are setup here. I wasn't expecting any major DDoS so early, however I guess anarchy got back at me (maybe I should say "us" here).
For info the DDoS has started yesterday, with something really soft. It has hardened today with over 6000 connections/second at some point (I nullrouted the ip since then).

Things should be back within less than 24 hours, right for the monday trading. If anyone who understands Russian can report/translate what's being told in the Russian forums, I guess this could be interesting too.

I'll update this post as things evolve.

UPDATE May 1st 12:00 JST: I've requested a new server from a specific provider which is used to handle DDoS attacks and provide guarantees. I confirmed on phone that servers are usually up within less than 24 hours, and negociated for it to go even faster.

UPDATE May 1st 14:00 JST: DDoS strenght have subsided a bit, system is back with current protections running. Had to increase conntrack buffer and a few things, but for now it holds together. Move to a system capable to mitigate such DDoS attacks is still planned.

UPDATE May 1st 17:00 JST: DDoS suddently stopped for no visible reason. Graphs are back to normal (even lower than that since we moved a lot of things to mitigate load). Will still get ready for more anyway.

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May 01, 2011, 03:11:14 AM
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Would it be possible to bring Mt.Gox up at a scheduled time to avoid advantages to certain people due to downtime? Can we get a confirm on this being caused by the BTCex.com guy?
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May 01, 2011, 03:16:44 AM
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I think that you should put a temporary simple page with a link to your twitter and this message you have made here.

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May 01, 2011, 03:18:34 AM
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Would it be possible to bring Mt.Gox up at a scheduled time to avoid advantages to certain people due to downtime? Can we get a confirm on this being caused by the BTCex.com guy?

You'll never be able to prove who is responsible for the DDoS.

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May 01, 2011, 03:24:59 AM
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Great. I sent 250btc to mtgox just before it went down. I never saw confirmation on the pages until it actually went down - was there any db loss that might cause my BTC to disappear?

edit: I see in the other thread that someone else had this problem and you assured them that theirs are safe. I guess I'll just wait then.

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May 01, 2011, 03:28:18 AM
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Great. I sent 250btc to mtgox just before it went down. I never saw confirmation on the pages until it actually went down - was there any db loss that might cause my BTC to disappear?

edit: I see in the other thread that someone else had this problem and you assured them that theirs are safe. I guess I'll just wait then.

anisoptera, don't panic. Nothing's lost and everything will be back to normal within 24 hours.
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May 01, 2011, 03:37:05 AM
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Would it be possible to bring Mt.Gox up at a scheduled time to avoid advantages to certain people due to downtime? Can we get a confirm on this being caused by the BTCex.com guy?

You'll never be able to prove who is responsible for the DDoS.



I think the owner pretty much admitted it lol

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May 01, 2011, 03:38:52 AM
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Would it be possible to bring Mt.Gox up at a scheduled time to avoid advantages to certain people due to downtime? Can we get a confirm on this being caused by the BTCex.com guy?

You'll never be able to prove who is responsible for the DDoS.



I think the owner pretty much admitted it lol

I wasn't planning on naming anyone or even mentioning Russia, however given how things are now it makes little difference~

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May 01, 2011, 03:52:45 AM
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Would it be possible to bring Mt.Gox up at a scheduled time to avoid advantages to certain people due to downtime? Can we get a confirm on this being caused by the BTCex.com guy?

You'll never be able to prove who is responsible for the DDoS.



I'm perfectly aware of this, mostly just wanted to mention that it's the largest potential suspect so people don't flock to it.
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May 01, 2011, 03:54:48 AM
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Would it be possible to bring Mt.Gox up at a scheduled time to avoid advantages to certain people due to downtime? Can we get a confirm on this being caused by the BTCex.com guy?

You'll never be able to prove who is responsible for the DDoS.



I'm perfectly aware of this, mostly just wanted to mention that it's the largest potential suspect so people don't flock to it.

I think he's not directly responsible, but may have mentioned publicly (in Russian) that he'd like trading to stop on mtgox, and got some "friends" who offered their help.

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May 01, 2011, 04:34:23 AM
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Interesting how this is unfolding. Following events on twitter...
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May 01, 2011, 04:50:27 AM
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Which twitter account are you referring to / following?
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May 01, 2011, 04:51:17 AM
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Interesting how this is unfolding...

Just 3 days ago I started checking the prices on Mt Gox ~twice a day. Those last couple days were amazing seeing the prices jump.  Smiley

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May 01, 2011, 04:57:43 AM
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The Silver Lining in the Cloud

This is actually very GOOD news for the Bitcoin world.  The lunatics out there who launched this DDoS attack on MtGox have actually forced MtGox to harden its protection again such attacks...   which is a VERY VERY GOOD THING for MtGox... and thus, for all of us.

"In a minute" MtGox will be back online... stronger and more secure than ever before.

I wouldn't go so far as to "thank" those idiots who attacked MtGox...   But, in reality...   The end result will BENEFIT MtGox AND us all.
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May 01, 2011, 05:05:36 AM
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Would it be possible to bring Mt.Gox up at a scheduled time to avoid advantages to certain people due to downtime? Can we get a confirm on this being caused by the BTCex.com guy?

You'll never be able to prove who is responsible for the DDoS.



Unless they admit it it is confirmed quote from btcex admin in other post "Oh, yes, exactly, well, then I turn off my ddos and start writing p2p exchange!"

Edit: I can't believe he somehow justifies his attack on you Tux I'm glad he stopped why couldn't he think of creating a p2p exchange in the first place?  If a competitor is beating you improve your service don't napalm the competitors office then say "ok I'll stop napalming his office and try to make an alternative service instead" and expect it to be all ok.  Sorry you had to deal with this Tux.

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May 01, 2011, 05:09:49 AM
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The Silver Lining in the Cloud

This is actually very GOOD news for the Bitcoin world.  The lunatics out there who launched this DDoS attack on MtGox have actually forced MtGox to harden its protection again such attacks...   which is a VERY VERY GOOD THING for MtGox... and thus, for all of us.

"In a minute" MtGox will be back online... stronger and more secure than ever before.

I wouldn't go so far as to "thank" those idiots who attacked MtGox...   But, in reality...   The end result will BENEFIT MtGox AND us all.


It's the silver lining in this bad situation.

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May 01, 2011, 05:14:58 AM
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why am i seeing mtgox recent trades on bitcoincharts.com on its 1 min interval?
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May 01, 2011, 05:17:34 AM
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why am i seeing mtgox recent trades on bitcoincharts.com on its 1 min interval?

Because it [almost] works. I still block when loadavg goes too high, but it somehow works.

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May 01, 2011, 05:18:27 AM
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The Silver Lining in the Cloud

This is actually very GOOD news for the Bitcoin world.  The lunatics out there who launched this DDoS attack on MtGox have actually forced MtGox to harden its protection again such attacks...   which is a VERY VERY GOOD THING for MtGox... and thus, for all of us.

"In a minute" MtGox will be back online... stronger and more secure than ever before.

That could also lead to higher exchange fee rates  Sad
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May 01, 2011, 05:20:11 AM
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why am i seeing mtgox recent trades on bitcoincharts.com on its 1 min interval?

bitcoincharts.com last trade  $3.57/BTC
Thanks for the tip.  Smiley

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From Mt Gox
Last Price: 3.6948 High:4.15 Low: 2.75 Volume: 62903

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