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July 14, 2014, 01:53:06 AM |
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BIS chief fears fresh Lehman from worldwide debt surgeThe world economy is just as vulnerable to a financial crisis as it was in 2007, with the added danger that debt ratios are now far higher and emerging markets have been drawn into the fire as well, the Bank for International Settlements has warned.
Jaime Caruana, head of the Swiss-based financial watchdog, said investors were ignoring the risk of monetary tightening in their voracious hunt for yield.
“Markets seem to be considering only a very narrow spectrum of potential outcomes. They have become convinced that monetary conditions will remain easy for a very long time, and may be taking more assurance than central banks wish to give,” he told The Telegraph.
Mr Caruana said the international system is in many ways more fragile than it was in the build-up to the Lehman crisis. Debt ratios in the developed economies have risen by 20 percentage points to 275pc of GDP since then.
Credit spreads have fallen to to wafer-thin levels. Companies are borrowing heavily to buy back their own shares. The BIS said 40pc of syndicated loans are to sub-investment grade borrowers, a higher ratio than in 2007, with ever fewer protection covenants for creditors. More... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/markets/10965052/Bank-for-International-Settlements-fears-fresh-Lehman-crisis-from-worldwide-debt-surge.html
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Brewins
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July 14, 2014, 02:15:56 AM |
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For me this is obvious. Year after year Obama increase the country's debt ceiling(that is: bigger bomb when it blows up), this year the US government stalled because of no agreement about how spend the money. Also european governments with their states spending more and more, and with low economic growing and high unemployment. Even chinese growing is slowing down ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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July 14, 2014, 02:36:58 AM |
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This is just somebody confirming what most of us already know in the first place, as for the Chinese economy slowing, despite what arrogant Americans believe they are propping up western economies by lending money to us, we're basically scamming them out of their money by giving them worthless treasury bonds and the 'promise' that we'll pay it back within a set period of oh, past their lifetime.
It's the equivalent of me asking you for some money and promising to pay it back after you're dead, the amazing thing is everybody keeps falling for it! As long as people get their free stuff now it's all okay.
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July 14, 2014, 04:15:58 AM |
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you can't keep kicking the ball down the road. the longer you kick it, the bigger the explosion we'll see. looks like it might be the great depression 2.0. that would be pretty damn significant, and not just that, we could see our economic world dominance dwindle because of it. look at what happened after the first one... it led the way to make us the world's first superpower.
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July 14, 2014, 06:03:29 AM |
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it's amazing how long the economy's been propped up on hot air.
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July 14, 2014, 07:41:34 AM |
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it's amazing how long the economy's been propped up on hot air.
Those who pay attention know it is just a matter of time before the next meltdown.
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July 14, 2014, 02:04:17 PM |
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it's amazing how long the economy's been propped up on hot air.
Those who pay attention know it is just a matter of time before the next meltdown. Periodic crisis are the way our economy recovers from some basic mistakes.
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July 14, 2014, 02:13:31 PM |
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it's amazing how long the economy's been propped up on hot air.
They are fabricating another world war.. don't worry soon millions.. billions will die so the Royal 13 won't have to give up their power. Drafts at levels humanity has never seen before.. nuclear waste lands.. Things are gonna get bad.. no use in prepping really u'll end up dead or a slave there are no two ways about it.
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July 14, 2014, 11:42:32 PM |
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it's amazing how long the economy's been propped up on hot air.
They are fabricating another world war.. don't worry soon millions.. billions will die so the Royal 13 won't have to give up their power. Drafts at levels humanity has never seen before.. nuclear waste lands.. Things are gonna get bad.. no use in prepping really u'll end up dead or a slave there are no two ways about it. People always get less free after a world war. Before 1940 people didn't even have to use passports to travel. All world wars have been started over money and world war 3 would be no different. I don't know if countries would really shoot nuclear missles, people in general are too scared to use them.
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July 15, 2014, 01:23:55 AM |
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it's amazing how long the economy's been propped up on hot air.
Those who pay attention know it is just a matter of time before the next meltdown. This is one of a number of reasons we are on "BITCOINTALK". Let them have their paperMoneyMeltdown.
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July 15, 2014, 04:13:11 AM |
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it's amazing how long the economy's been propped up on hot air.
Those who pay attention know it is just a matter of time before the next meltdown. This is one of a number of reasons we are on "BITCOINTALK". Let them have their paperMoneyMeltdown. +1 Very Well said. I couldn't have put it better if I tried.
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July 15, 2014, 05:10:43 AM |
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it's amazing how long the economy's been propped up on hot air.
Those who pay attention know it is just a matter of time before the next meltdown. This is one of a number of reasons we are on "BITCOINTALK". Let them have their paperMoneyMeltdown. Well said. The problem was "addressed" in 2008 with more debt instead of real reform. You don't smother a fire with more fuel. Each time I buy bit coin I feel a bit less vulnerable to the inevitable system failure.
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July 15, 2014, 09:39:38 PM |
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it's amazing how long the economy's been propped up on hot air.
Those who pay attention know it is just a matter of time before the next meltdown. Periodic crisis are the way our economy recovers from some basic mistakes. It was compounded and delaying the correction for the mistakes.
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Ron~Popeil
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July 15, 2014, 10:10:25 PM |
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it's amazing how long the economy's been propped up on hot air.
Those who pay attention know it is just a matter of time before the next meltdown. Periodic crisis are the way our economy recovers from some basic mistakes. It was compounded and delaying the correction for the mistakes. The longer you delay it the more painful it will be. On a brighter note I just bought another 1.5 btc.
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July 15, 2014, 11:34:56 PM |
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BIS chief fears fresh Lehman from worldwide debt surgeThe world economy is just as vulnerable to a financial crisis as it was in 2007, with the added danger that debt ratios are now far higher and emerging markets have been drawn into the fire as well, the Bank for International Settlements has warned.
Jaime Caruana, head of the Swiss-based financial watchdog, said investors were ignoring the risk of monetary tightening in their voracious hunt for yield.
“Markets seem to be considering only a very narrow spectrum of potential outcomes. They have become convinced that monetary conditions will remain easy for a very long time, and may be taking more assurance than central banks wish to give,” he told The Telegraph.
Mr Caruana said the international system is in many ways more fragile than it was in the build-up to the Lehman crisis. Debt ratios in the developed economies have risen by 20 percentage points to 275pc of GDP since then.
Credit spreads have fallen to to wafer-thin levels. Companies are borrowing heavily to buy back their own shares. The BIS said 40pc of syndicated loans are to sub-investment grade borrowers, a higher ratio than in 2007, with ever fewer protection covenants for creditors. More... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/markets/10965052/Bank-for-International-Settlements-fears-fresh-Lehman-crisis-from-worldwide-debt-surge.html How can this be bitcoin-off-topic when it clearly calls for a currency that isn't based on debts and potentially infinite money supply? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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I should have gotten into Bitcoin back in 1992...
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July 16, 2014, 01:01:10 AM |
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A few well known analysts have predicted a new crisis within next 5 years. That would be the time for bitcoin to shine. :-)
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July 16, 2014, 03:48:16 AM |
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it's amazing how long the economy's been propped up on hot air.
Those who pay attention know it is just a matter of time before the next meltdown. Periodic crisis are the way our economy recovers from some basic mistakes. It was compounded and delaying the correction for the mistakes. The longer you delay it the more painful it will be. On a brighter note I just bought another 1.5 btc. They can keep delaying it until they are no longer around and let the next generation handle the mess.
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July 16, 2014, 06:52:08 AM |
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it's amazing how long the economy's been propped up on hot air.
Those who pay attention know it is just a matter of time before the next meltdown. Periodic crisis are the way our economy recovers from some basic mistakes. It was compounded and delaying the correction for the mistakes. The longer you delay it the more painful it will be. On a brighter note I just bought another 1.5 btc. They can keep delaying it until they are no longer around and let the next generation handle the mess. That is pretty much the plan. I am opting out. I will not be helping create or clean up the messes these vampires have created.
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July 16, 2014, 12:41:48 PM |
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Even if it benefits Bitcoin im scared. Also, in such a dangerious enviorment, would Bitcoin be even accepted? In total chaos the guy with weapons and food is the guy that rules ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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July 16, 2014, 06:27:18 PM |
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Even if it benefits Bitcoin im scared. Also, in such a dangerious enviorment, would Bitcoin be even accepted? In total chaos the guy with weapons and food is the guy that rules ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Alas this.. not so much to the food as the military might will take it from you. The #1 form of wealth is armies, armies you control 100% that do not question you. With that ANYTHING and EVERYTHING is yours. When things go bad the hired armies of the gov (the police) will come to steal EVERYTHING you own.. EVERYTHING including crypto. If you do not have the means or people to defend yourself you will be killed and everything taken, or enslaved and everything taken... Things are just not looking good at all.. I have cop friends.. they are 100% brainwashed. If asked to go wipe out a city there will be no question just action. It's rather obvious the gun agenda with a massive decrease in gun violence over the past 15 years but the media going on about how bad it's getting and how we HAVE to fix this issue that is getting worse.. when it's getting better... :S.. In my country you'll face years in prison if you are found with a baton... hopefully I can escape south if/when the time comes.
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