Warning: GAW-Miners Hosting / Zenminer Cloud / OneMiner.com does not mine LTC

[manfred87]

Oh Thank you for the ongoing discussion. Here is my update:
i gave zenminer a chance and bought severals miners
we can buy it know from www.gawminers.com , www.oneminer.com via cc, http://store.zenminer.com/ via btc or even cheaper at zenminer resellers.

the headline is still true: we can not mine ltc directly. ( so we can not track if there are mined or buyed blocks )
i gathered information and now believe that zenminer_eric has good intentions. he and gaw_josh have great new projects on their mind ( bought domain www.btc.com ).

but: the final trust can only be reached, if i get more payed out that i payed in.
until know the zneminer cloud is operating perfectly.

here are my earnings ( percent: income vs cost )
Fury - 14% in 20 days
Falcon - 22% in 13 days
War Machine - 15% in 6 days
Antminer - 9% in 7 days

so we still have to see what the future brings!
its all worth nothing if it stops at 95% !

[n2nshad0w]

I've recently decided to pick up a Falcon @ Oneminer for the one day sale @ $499, with 30 days hosting from Zen.  My order was activated within a few hours. Although my order was slightly botched, Eric from Zenminer made me it right.  I'm very pleased with their service so far.

I really wish to be more hands on with my miner via the hosting.  There is really no setup, coin selection, or anything.  This makes it very easy for someone new to get started, but for me I want all the options! I want to know how they are exchanging the alts for BTC. 

Lets get down to the important part!   Will I make MONEY?!?

So far I've been paid between $10-$13 a day

That puts me @ 50 days or less to earn a Return on Investment.  @ that point I hope to buy another and RoI in 1/2 the time.

I'm on day 5 

[suchmoon]

I've recently decided to pick up a Falcon @ Oneminer for the one day sale @ $499, with 30 days hosting from Zen.  My order was activated within a few hours. Although my order was slightly botched, Eric from Zenminer made me it right.  I'm very pleased with their service so far.

I really wish to be more hands on with my miner via the hosting.  There is really no setup, coin selection, or anything.  This makes it very easy for someone new to get started, but for me I want all the options! I want to know how they are exchanging the alts for BTC. 

Lets get down to the important part!   Will I make MONEY?!?

So far I've been paid between $10-$13 a day

That puts me @ 50 days or less to earn a Return on Investment.  @ that point I hope to buy another and RoI in 1/2 the time.

I'm on day 5 

It's a bit dangerous - ok, it's very dangerous - to assume that your earnings will be linear. LTC difficulty has gone up on average ~50% each month since May and will go up even more if Titan and Vaultsomething are actually delivered. Also the hosting costs after the 30 days will eat a large part of your earnings.

Having said that, $20 per MH/s is probably the best you could get recently as far as Scrypt ASICs are concerned. If that doesn't ROI then nothing will. Titan is supposed to be what - $15 per MH/s?

Back on topic - to avoid reposting I'll just link to my other post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=720844.0 (tldr: I'm looking for evidence proving the cloud exists)

[EvilPanda]

Oh Thank you for the ongoing discussion. Here is my update:
i gave zenminer a chance and bought severals miners
we can buy it know from www.gawminers.com , www.oneminer.com via cc, http://store.zenminer.com/ via btc or even cheaper at zenminer resellers.

the headline is still true: we can not mine ltc directly. ( so we can not track if there are mined or buyed blocks )
i gathered information and now believe that zenminer_eric has good intentions. he and gaw_josh have great new projects on their mind ( bought domain www.btc.com ).

but: the final trust can only be reached, if i get more payed out that i payed in.
until know the zneminer cloud is operating perfectly.

here are my earnings ( percent: income vs cost )
Fury - 14% in 20 days
Falcon - 22% in 13 days
War Machine - 15% in 6 days
Antminer - 9% in 7 days

so we still have to see what the future brings!
its all worth nothing if it stops at 95% !

Thanks for giving them a try, I was very happy with the services. Keep us updated

I've recently decided to pick up a Falcon @ Oneminer for the one day sale @ $499, with 30 days hosting from Zen.  My order was activated within a few hours. Although my order was slightly botched, Eric from Zenminer made me it right.  I'm very pleased with their service so far.

I really wish to be more hands on with my miner via the hosting.  There is really no setup, coin selection, or anything.  This makes it very easy for someone new to get started, but for me I want all the options! I want to know how they are exchanging the alts for BTC.  

Lets get down to the important part!   Will I make MONEY?!?

So far I've been paid between $10-$13 a day

That puts me @ 50 days or less to earn a Return on Investment.  @ that point I hope to buy another and RoI in 1/2 the time.

I'm on day 5  

It may be even less than 50 if the value of the coins rises

Nobody can answer your question there are too many variables. This is a high risk investment, like everything in the crypto world.
What you can be sure of is that GAW will deliver and take care of you along the way, and this is a rare thing in this industry, so if you think mining is the way to go you are in the right spot.

[DannyElfman]

They would be actually pretty clever to just use your invested money to buy coins and then payout that in dividends. Most of the time they will come out way ahead

[DARKANGEL6415]

So just to make sure i understand 100%. If i buy something from like gawminers.com or that onedeal site and get zenhosting. I wont get physical hardware until i decide to unplug my device correct? Also lets say i but 2 units that dont come with power supplies do i need to buy power supply to have them in the zencloud or do they supply power to devices while they host them? The last question is if i have my own miners or buy miners from ebay can i send them to gawminer or zencloud hosting so they can add to my account?  Thanks in advance to whoever answers my 3 questions i asked on here. 

[suchmoon]

So just to make sure i understand 100%. If i buy something from like gawminers.com or that onedeal site and get zenhosting. I wont get physical hardware until i decide to unplug my device correct? Also lets say i but 2 units that dont come with power supplies do i need to buy power supply to have them in the zencloud or do they supply power to devices while they host them? The last question is if i have my own miners or buy miners from ebay can i send them to gawminer or zencloud hosting so they can add to my account?  Thanks in advance to whoever answers my 3 questions i asked on here. 

1) Correct, your hardware goes directly to zen and is provisioned within 24 hours (most cases).
2) Zen supplies the power for the duration of hosting, you don't have to purchase a PSU. When you "unhost" it will be shipped to you without the PSU, just as you originally purchased.
3) You CANNOT ship your own miners for them to host.

[DARKANGEL6415]

So just to make sure i understand 100%. If i buy something from like gawminers.com or that onedeal site and get zenhosting. I wont get physical hardware until i decide to unplug my device correct? Also lets say i but 2 units that dont come with power supplies do i need to buy power supply to have them in the zencloud or do they supply power to devices while they host them? The last question is if i have my own miners or buy miners from ebay can i send them to gawminer or zencloud hosting so they can add to my account?  Thanks in advance to whoever answers my 3 questions i asked on here. 

1) Correct, your hardware goes directly to zen and is provisioned within 24 hours (most cases).
2) Zen supplies the power for the duration of hosting, you don't have to purchase a PSU. When you "unhost" it will be shipped to you without the PSU, just as you originally purchased.
3) You CANNOT ship your own miners for them to host.

sweet thanks for the answer i was just kinda confused after reading some of the posts

[ITAngel]

Is it worth hosting 4x S3 at ZenMiner or host them instead at home? I was thinking space heater in the winter for my house. What is your guys though?

[suchmoon]

Is it worth hosting 4x S3 at ZenMiner or host them instead at home? I was thinking space heater in the winter for my house. What is your guys though?

Since you have a plan what to do with the heat I'd say host at home. Financially it's a wash at best (you'd pay $50-100 more at Zen in exchange for 1 free month and not having to buy a PSU) and you lose a lot of flexibility. S3 is relatively quiet and not power hungry, good for home use.

[ITAngel]

Oh Okay, cool Thanks! =)

[DARKANGEL6415]

i thought zencloud said the price is $0.90 a day for each Antminer S3 according to what i see on gawminers website AFTER the 1 free month? Please correct me if the price is indead different cause i am calculationg something different than your numbers.


MINER SPECS:
•Hash Rate: 441 GH/s±5%
•Power Consumption: 366 Watt at the wall
•Power Efficiency: 0.77 J/GH on wall
•Power Supply: 12V DC
•Size:  331 mm x 137 mm x 160 mm
•Fans: Two 14038 fans mounted on both front and back ends
•Operating Temperature: 0 °C to 35 °C
•Complied with: FCC / CE

 

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[suchmoon]

i thought zencloud said the price is $0.90 a day for each Antminer S3 according to what i see on gawminers website AFTER the 1 free month? Please correct me if the price is indead different cause i am calculationg something different than your numbers.

Which numbers are you referring to?

[DARKANGEL6415]

i thought zencloud said the price is $0.90 a day for each Antminer S3 according to what i see on gawminers website AFTER the 1 free month? Please correct me if the price is indead different cause i am calculationg something different than your numbers.

Which numbers are you referring to?

the 0.90$ a day for each S3 miner

[owlcatz]

They would be actually pretty clever to just use your invested money to buy coins and then payout that in dividends. Most of the time they will come out way ahead

I was thinking of that too, but ... Here is where my BTC i spent for a hashlet landed -

https://blockchain.info/address/1KQxLLQNxgn2upd4TtGbtiRdm3f5UWC9k8

Interestingly, If you google that wallet address, you can see it is actively mining on (at least) nicehash and clevermining.

NIcehash - https://nicehash.com/?p=miners&a=0&addr=1KQxLLQNxgn2upd4TtGbtiRdm3f5UWC9k8

clevermining - http://www.clevermining.com/users/1KQxLLQNxgn2upd4TtGbtiRdm3f5UWC9k8

Any one else have any take on this, seems kinda weird, but hey, maybe it means they really are mining after all - i see the balance on clever is like 18 BTC ?

[suchmoon]

i see the balance on clever is like 18 BTC ?

I remember this address, I think it used to be a default in controllers or software purchased/downloaded from GAW. Not a lot of mining on it currently. It's weird to see the same address used for sales though.

[SDRebel]

They would be actually pretty clever to just use your invested money to buy coins and then payout that in dividends. Most of the time they will come out way ahead

I was thinking of that too, but ... Here is where my BTC i spent for a hashlet landed -

https://blockchain.info/address/1KQxLLQNxgn2upd4TtGbtiRdm3f5UWC9k8

Interestingly, If you google that wallet address, you can see it is actively mining on (at least) nicehash and clevermining.

NIcehash - https://nicehash.com/?p=miners&a=0&addr=1KQxLLQNxgn2upd4TtGbtiRdm3f5UWC9k8

clevermining - http://www.clevermining.com/users/1KQxLLQNxgn2upd4TtGbtiRdm3f5UWC9k8

Any one else have any take on this, seems kinda weird, but hey, maybe it means they really are mining after all - i see the balance on clever is like 18 BTC ?



Zenpool, the one used for hashlets, is already over 200Ghz at clever alone

[GreenLabsERS]

Hi I am new to this forum, hello to everyone.
Firstly apologies to all, to use automatic translators to communicate with you. I totally understand everything written in English, but my writing fluency in English is smaller so I use google translate for this.
I want to introduce about my interest in data mining, I'm using Zencloud and I am delighted with the service, but lately, specifically for three days now, I have trouble login successfully in Zencloud control interface.
Present two tickets now about 40 hours ago and just got contacts about about 20 hours ago now and were responses to stupid reality of my problem nature, not own responses, a site is supposed seriously, and it takes seriously the problems of their partners.

I wanted to ask you, what do you think about this?
As I feel and act accordingly .....?
What do you think ....?

Thanks in advance

GreenLabsERS@Cryptolab.net

[tom99]

Hi I am new to this forum, hello to everyone.
Firstly apologies to all, to use automatic translators to communicate with you. I totally understand everything written in English, but my writing fluency in English is smaller so I use google translate for this.
I want to introduce about my interest in data mining, I'm using Zencloud and I am delighted with the service, but lately, specifically for three days now, I have trouble login successfully in Zencloud control interface.
Present two tickets now about 40 hours ago and just got contacts about about 20 hours ago now and were responses to stupid reality of my problem nature, not own responses, a site is supposed seriously, and it takes seriously the problems of their partners.

I wanted to ask you, what do you think about this?
As I feel and act accordingly .....?
What do you think ....?

Thanks in advance

GreenLabsERS@Cryptolab.net

  You can go to this forum for help and this forum for GAW or hashlet.  Hashtalk.org

[suchmoon]

Hi I am new to this forum, hello to everyone.
Firstly apologies to all, to use automatic translators to communicate with you. I totally understand everything written in English, but my writing fluency in English is smaller so I use google translate for this.
I want to introduce about my interest in data mining, I'm using Zencloud and I am delighted with the service, but lately, specifically for three days now, I have trouble login successfully in Zencloud control interface.
Present two tickets now about 40 hours ago and just got contacts about about 20 hours ago now and were responses to stupid reality of my problem nature, not own responses, a site is supposed seriously, and it takes seriously the problems of their partners.

I wanted to ask you, what do you think about this?
As I feel and act accordingly .....?
What do you think ....?

Thanks in advance

GreenLabsERS@Cryptolab.net

  You can go to this forum for help and this forum for GAW or hashlet.  Hashtalk.org

Not a good advice. It is not allowed to post support issues on hashtalk.org anymore.

GreenLabsERS, you don't have much of a choice, update your tickets every day, try to explain the problem the best you can, and keep pushing them until you get a response.