My pool experience with cloud zenminer dot com

[philipma1957]

new thread link is here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=743152.0


Note to mods this thread is in the wrong place as of July 28th. I am now mining with an antminer s-3 on the pool  and mining on btcguild along with the scrypt mining. I would think I should be in the pools section of btc/mining

this section:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=41.0

I could be wrong so no need to move the thread if you do not want to move it.

Edit Mon the 28th of July.


I added an antminer S-3 On July 28 >>>>>>>>>>    cost = $489      1 month free hosting

I added  a 27mh falcon on July 21 >>>>>>>>>>>    cost  =  $599    3 months free hosting

I started with the promo gridseed Blade on July 17th   cost = $0          Lifetime Free hosting


I ask mods to move this to mining pools in the btc section since I will be mining  with an antminer s-3.  If you want to wait until I post a screenshot of the antminer okay.

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I talked with the ceo of gawminers yesterday and I agreed to try his company again.


 This is my try with his cloud.zenminer.com  option.  I am in the cloud using a gridseed blade.

this mines at mutiple pools and converts to btc.  So I feel it can belong with btc and not alt/scrypt coins as it does result in btc payout.


First full day is today.  Note yesterday was  a part day and I earned 0.00025832 BTC

 I have about  5.2 mh   mining at the clevermining choice . >>>>>>>> this number fluxes every few minutes.

 the payment should be 0.0035376 btc

I will post it when it comes..


 I will do 10 days at each  choice. They are as below.  

 1)Clevermining

 2)CoinKing

 3)NiceHash

 4)ProfitPool

 5)WafflePool







Full disclosure I talked with the ceo of gaw and told him I would run an honest fair report on this account. My cost for the account was $0.

the small 0.00025832  btc is a few hours of mining done yesterday.
 
I also put this thread  that I can edit and mod the thread..

Here is a screen shot of my account: I plan to post 1 screen shot a date updating the results.

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[philipma1957]

Lots of action since I last updated this

Edit:
I will use this page for money in--- money earned ---- money out


Money In--------------------------------

July 17---free gridseed------  0 usd--------

July 21---falcon------------ 599 usd

July 28---antminer s-3 --- 489 usd

Aug 2 ---antminer s-3 ---- 429 usd

 old  total in ------------------------1088    usd

 -------------------------------1.813 btc

new total in ------------------- 1517 usd

about 2.54 btc as of Aug 10 2014

I added 2 black widows for 275 usd.

  So I am in for 1792 usd!


----------Total----------------------Total---
-------Money earned------------ Money out------  Balance

1)-- 0.21552543 btc  ---------- 0.21 btc------- .00552543btc as of July 28th

2)-- 0.24876464 btc ---------- 0.245 btc -------------- .00376464 btc as of July 29th

3)-- 0.28401540 btc-------------0.284 btc ------------ .00001540 btc as of July 30th

4)-- 0.32776759 btc ------------0.327 btc -------------.00076759 btc as of July 31st.


5)-- 0.36609576 btc ------------0.366 btc ------------- .00009576 btc as of Aug 1st

6) -- 0.40174674 btc ------------0.40174 btc ----------- .00000674 btc as of Aug 2nd

7)--  0.43474674 btc------------ 0.43474 btc ------------ 0.0

-- 0.52874674 Btc ---------------0.52874 btc ---------0.00090158 btc as of Aug 6th

9)--0.56083814 Btc   ----------------0.56074 btc ---------.0.00009814 btc as of aug 7th

10) -- 0.59050533 btc   ---------------0.59044 btc -------- 0.00006533

11) -  0.66057875 btc   ------------- 0.66044 btc -----------0.00013875 btc

12) --0.70021364 btc---------------- 0.70021364 -----------0.0 btc

13) --0.73978328

14)--0.78598602

15)-- 0.82538963

16)--0.94632906

17)--0.99113761 = 513usd  on aug 17th





 as of aug 11th  about 403 usd

So as of aug 16th  that is about 470 usd due to btc price drop

Will effort to make a daily up date.


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NEW EDIT

After some pool jumping.

 I am doing all Nicehash ..  I am able to check Nicehash rates very easy

https://www.nicehash.com/

 EARNINGS BY MINER

GRIDSEED BLADE 4.9-5.4MH
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July 17th _______>>>>> 0.00025832---------
July  18th ___________> 0.00340670----------------0.00366502
July  19th ___________> 0.00361485__-__-__-__--0.00727987
July  20th ___________> 0.00321659----------------0.01049646
July  21st ___________> 0.00439602---------------- 0.01489248
July  22nd ___________> 0.00477086----------------0.01966334
July  23rd  ___________> 0.00308951----------------0.02300537
July  24th  ___________> 0.00334203----------------0.02634740
July  25th  ___________> 0.00336523----------------0.02968943
July  26th  ___________> 0.00307300
July  27th  ___________> 0.00245725
July  28th ___________> 0.00333588
July  29th ___________>  0.00286154
July  30th ___________>  0.00355388
July  31st ___________>  0.00547692


Aug 1st _____________> 0.00416482
Aug 2nd_____________> 0.00370638
Aug 3rd______________>0.00336986
Aug 4th______________>0.00318886
Aug 5th______________>0.00333447
Aug 6th______________>0.00299586
Aug 7th______________>0.00279220
Aug 8th______________>0.00272053
Aug 9th______________>0.00264842
Aug 10th_____________>0.00233372
Aug 11th_____________>0.00226545
Aug 12th_____________>0.00311500
Aug 13th_____________>0.00237382
Aug 14th_____________>0.00180379
Aug 15th_____________>0.00177637
Aug 16th_____________>0.00196005


Falcon 25mh- 26mh

July 20th_______________> 0.01428392  first day partial CoinKing
July 21st_______________> 0.02272391  full day CoinKing
July 22nd_______________> 0.02460714 full  day Coinking
July 23rd_______________> 0.01564258 full  day CoinKing-- I switched
July 24th_______________> 0.02057881 full day   played with all pools
July 25th_______________> 0.02042301 full day   same as above
July 26th_______________> 0.02081149 full day  NiceHash
July 27th_______________> 0.01987257 full day Nicehash
July 28th_______________> 0.01825575 full day Nicehash
July 29th_______________> 0.02201192 full Day Nicehash
July 30th_______________> 0.01908157 "     "      "
July 31st_______________> 0.02590042 "     "      "

Aug   1st _______________> 0.02151413 "    "      "
Aug   2nd ______________> 0.01932223 "    "      "
Aug   3rd_______________> 0.01736908
Aug   4th_______________> 0.01677686
Aug   5th_______________> 0.01648362
Aug   6th_______________> 0.01442988
Aug   7th_______________> 0.01527223
Aug   8th_______________> 0.01449993
Aug   9th_______________> 0.01449607
Aug  10th_______________>0.01141213
Aug  11th_______________>0.01175173
Aug  12th_______________>0.01623785
Aug  13th_______________>0.01242945
Aug  14th_______________>0.00990618
Aug  15th_______________>0.00871512
Aug 16th _______________>0.01027047


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I use btcguild for the antminer . right now the only choice is btcguild
but I have accounts with btcguild So i can check payouts.
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Antminer s-3  440gh - 460gh

July 29th _____________> 0.00836575  first day partial BTCGuild
July 30th _____________> 0.01261531   "     "       "         "
July 31st _____________> 0.01237485   "     "       "         "

Aug  1st _____________> 0.01264922   "     "       "         "
Aug  2nd _____________>0.01262237   "    "       "          "
Aug  3rd______________>0.01232362
Aug  4th______________>0.01290371
Aug  5th______________>0.01213584
Aug  6th______________>0.01258318
Aug  7th______________>0.01313213
Aug  8th______________>0.01244673
Aug  9th______________>0.01192949
Aug 10th______________>0.01204414
Aug 11th______________>0.01208178
Aug 12th______________>0.01292278
Aug 13th______________>0.01161776
Aug 14th______________>0.01199854
Aug 15th______________>0.01200594
Aug  16th______________>0.01118384


Antminer S-3  two added

Aug  9th______________>0.00308073
Aug 10th______________>0.01184646
Aug 11th______________>0.01273353
Aug 12th______________>0.0131028
Aug 13th______________>0.0123904
Aug  14th_____________>0.01252755
Aug  15th_____________>0.01213118
aug   16th_____________>0.01176052

Free fury added

Aug 10th______________>0.00028226
Aug 11th______________>0.00059840
Aug 12th______________>0.00082431
Aug 13th______________>0.00059218
Aug 14th______________>0.00047920
Aug 15th______________>0.00042016
Aug  16th_____________>0.00050452

Black Widow 1

Aug 15th______________>0.00349314
Aug 16th______________>0.00050452

Black Widow 2

Aug 15th______________>0.0006597
Aug 16th______________>0.0050247



Withdrawals

July 21st  _______>  0.05
July 22nd _______>  0.031
July 24th _______>  0.04
July 26th _______>  0.05
July 27th _______>  0.0229
July 28th _______>  0.0161
July 29th _______>  0.035
July 30th _______>  0.039
July 31st _______>   0.043

Aug 1st _________> 0.039
Aug  2nd ________> 0.03574
Aug  3rd_________> 0.0330
Aug  6th_________> 0.094
Aug 7th _________> 0.032
Aug 8th _________> 0.0297
Aug 10th_________>0.07
Aug 11th_________>0.03956964
Aug 12th_________>0.04620274
Aug 13th_________>0.03940361
Aug 16th_________>0.12093943



okay I got really busy setting up my new s-3's yesterday.  but here  request to the mods.  this service is cloud based and includes both scrypt and 256 coins.

Right now I am mining with scrypt on this service.  but like cex.io this has both options .  this thread does not belong in alt coins.  I ask that you move it back to pools or speculation not alt coins.

You are the mod not me.  If you don't move it it is okay.  If you want me to mine and demo the btc part of cloud zenminer.com  in order to have this moved back to   pools or speculation please pm me.

I was given a demo gridseed blade from gawminers ceo .  He contacted me asking how to get me back as a gaw customer.   So we exchanged pm's and  I told him I would do a thread showing his pools setup.

After a day Of running my free gridseed blade. I said to myself : "self  you should put your money where you mouth is buy a miner and have it hosted."

So I made this purchase:




The miner was purchased at 800 am and by 11 pm or so was activated.

[gybigp]

Thanks for the info.  I've had some issues with GAW Miners and have been hesitant to make additional purchases.  However, I've been looking at some of their hosted offerings because of the cost of electricity where I am in Japan.  I'm extremely skeptical of purchasing equipment and leaving it with a company trusting they will be here tomorrow, next week or next year.  I had a week of free hashing a few months ago and I thought it paid out very well.  I think they called it Buy a Hash. You got a week of hash equal to the items hash rate you bought.  In my case it was a Gridseed Blade at 5.2 mhs.  I'm very interested to see how their hosting works out.

[philipma1957]

Thanks for the info.  I've had some issues with GAW Miners and have been hesitant to make additional purchases.  However, I've been looking at some of their hosted offerings because of the cost of electricity where I am in Japan.  I'm extremely skeptical of purchasing equipment and leaving it with a company trusting they will be here tomorrow, next week or next year.  I had a week of free hashing a few months ago and I thought it paid out very well.  I think they called it Buy a Hash. You got a week of hash equal to the items hash rate you bought.  In my case it was a Gridseed Blade at 5.2 mhs.  I'm very interested to see how their hosting works out.

thanks I will post 1 screen shot a day with info on the 2 scrypt miners.  I am looking for a 256 miner so far they do not have one at a price I like.

when they offer an s-3 with fast activation

I think I will take it.

[reyhan12]

how did you get 3 months free hosting and 275 coupon off?

[philipma1957]

how did you get 3 months free hosting and 275 coupon off?

the free hosting is still available. the coupon was offered on this site as a stealth sale.  I will see if I can find it.


If I can not find the coupon.  there is a sale from their one miner sale site.  a gridseed blade for 199.  

  I just purchased 2 of them. 

edit still   looking for the  thread on the stealth sale .  I will look for it better.  they are still selling the gridseed blades now.

[reyhan12]

no worries. I found the thread and i think the coupon is expired. it was a 24hr sale.  . also, the 3 month free hosting has been reduced to 1 month. lucky you!

[philipma1957]

no worries. I found the thread and i think the coupon is expired. it was a 24hr sale.  . also, the 3 month free hosting has been reduced to 1 month. lucky you!

yeah I saw that and jumped on it.  the gridseed sale at 200 a unit may end up a pretty good deal.

I pulled .05 btc out of the zen account  .. so 31 usd back so far.  I will post a screen shot tonight.

It seems that gaw miners runs specials if you grab one just right they are very good prices.

[EvilPanda]

Good job, I always liked your professional approach. No trolling or childish comments just facts.
Keep it coming.

[grosminer]

Good job, I always liked your professional approach. No trolling or childish comments just facts.
Keep it coming.

+1

great work. can't wait to see the results

[jeezy]

Thanks for this review man. Looking forward for your summary after your tested it for quiet some time.

[damiano]

I like their pricing and the hosted option, but I would want to mine LTC instead of mining on a multipool.

[reyhan12]

yeah i check this thread twice a day for updates. great stuff.

really interested in getting a falcon. I am just waiting for another deal to happen. how many days for the .05?

[philipma1957]

yeah i check this thread twice a day for updates. great stuff.

really interested in getting a falcon. I am just waiting for another deal to happen. how many days for the .05?

here is a screen shot for all my deposits and the 2 withdrawals done so far.

so far it is doing really well.  if it keeps this pace up this will roi in  about a month.   I am doing close to .03 a day.

Now some advice for protecting yourself.

1)  move the money out of your account and into a safe wallet. Right now I am withdrawing each night.

2) Buy into the hosting  with a cc.  Most give at least 60 days protection.  I timed my purchase.  The cards Statement was July 14 I purchased July 18th.  Next statement will be Aug 14th and payment will be due on sept 8 or 9.  So I do not lay out any money. I collect  .02 to .03 vtc a day for up to 50 days before I owe payment. I am covered for 60 days if company goes bust.

This is a major reason I got more into scrypt coins over btc I can use cc and paypal to pay.  This does protect against bad companies.

[philipma1957]

made a withdrawal of .04 btc so far I pulled  out  .121btc .

 that is about 75 usd back in  4-5 days of the falcon and 6-7 days of the gridseed combined.

[reyhan12]

that's not bad. just wanna do some computations. so your total investment in zencloud mining is around $800?

[srt1234]

A free Gridseed blade, that's not bad.

[philipma1957]

that's not bad. just wanna do some computations. so your total investment in zencloud mining is around $800?

actually less  as the falcon was on a sale  so I spent  599 for it.

the gridseed was a promo  to get me to come back  as I was a big spender with them and had stopped buying from them.


so my total  spent was 599 for 32mh.   


with zero sales or deals or promos this would have been more like 999-1049. 


The thing is they are running a lot of promos. 

So if you catch  a good one so far this looks good.

[philipma1957]

quick up date I earned .023 yesterday.

 So far my earnings have been around .147 btc from July 17th to July 24th

I will post a screen shot tonight.

I have  earned a bit more then .171 btc from July 17th to July 25th.  I withdrew .171 btc so far

I will post on sunday night.  This needs to get back around 1 btc for me to break even.

[crashoveride54902]

nice a free blade lucky man, but ya pretty soon they are going to be giving this stuff away at the price drops they are doing to just sell the miners lol

[philipma1957]

nice a free blade lucky man, but ya pretty soon they are going to be giving this stuff away at the price drops they are doing to just sell the miners lol

asic pricing for alt coins  keeps dropping . I got total of 32mh for really good prices.  better then most anyone. I still think this will profit but frankly the entire alt coin market is being hrt by asics flooding the market.  


 my 599 usd  investment  has returned .21552543btc

I withdrew 0.21 btc of it so far.






they offered an antminer S-3  deal I grabbed it right here.





and in under 3 hours I am active  see screen shot

[crashoveride54902]

ya i bought a war machine...first 24 period was .03 btc....hopefully it keeps getting that

[philipma1957]

ya i bought a war machine...first 24 period was .03 btc....hopefully it keeps getting that

 I did lots of math and this pool is far far far far far better then

 cex.io or cloudhashing or scrypt.cc


cex.io----------- a gh is  .0046  or 465 x .0046      2.139 btc for an antminer s-3 .   I paid 490us or .81667btc  for the s-3 on this site .  I had a coupon and  some store credit.


with no deals  the s-3 is 549 usd or .915 btc  with free hosting for a month and use of a psu .  

 this destroys cex.io price.  plus you own the s-3 and they will deliver it.  plus I used a cc  so I am safe for 60 days against fraud/


and this coupon worked on my hosted s-3  GAW25

so it took off 25 usd.  so the 549 s-3 = 524 for now.  i do not know for how long.

[EvilPanda]

ya i bought a war machine...first 24 period was .03 btc....hopefully it keeps getting that

 I did lots of math and this pool is far far far far far better then

 cex.io or cloudhashing or scrypt.cc


cex.io----------- a gh is  .0046  or 465 x .0046      2.139 btc for an antminer s-3 .   I paid 490us or .81667btc  for the s-3 on this site .  I had a coupon and  some store credit.


with no deals  the s-3 is 549 usd or .915 btc  with free hosting for a month and use of a psu .  

 this destroys cex.io price.  plus you own the s-3 and they will deliver it.  plus I used a cc  so I am safe for 60 days against fraud/


and this coupon worked on my hosted s-3  GAW25

so it took off 25 usd.  so the 549 s-3 = 524 for now.  i do not know for how long.

Thanks for doing the review.

I can confirm the deal looks great compared to other sites. Guys at GAW are working hard to build the brand and I can promise you this is just the beginning. They are constantly improving and adding new features.
If you want to influence the project just go to their forums at hashtalk.org They are open to suggestions

[ShibaWow]

@OP

send me a referral link, I'm interested in trying the site out too

[philipma1957]

@OP

send me a referral link, I'm interested in trying the site out too

okay I will send a pm


I sent a referral link


I sent a link to coupons.

They are like shopping at newegg/amazon etc you need to figure the best way to get the discounts.

my antminer s-3  was 549  then a 25 dollar coupon then 35 dollars in points earned = 489  then 2% with my amex card = about 480 usd

3 hours to have it start mining …  30 days free hosting.  I can ship it to me after 30 days or have them host it at 90 cents a day.  

this is a good deal.  I earn 4900 points for buying it. At 10000 points I get 35 bucks off.

[mrcable]

Hey , good work on this i am trying out just a fury just too see how Things are . but do they only have btc guild added to sha256 pools ?

[philipma1957]

Hey , good work on this i am trying out just a fury just too see how Things are . but do they only have btc guild added to sha256 pools ?

as of today it is still 1 choice btcguild .   they may need to do only btc guild since btcguild is USA based and zenminer/gawminer are USA based.

Not so sure what they can offer other then btcguild.

Tell you what when I get my payment tonight I will post back if there is more choice on that end. For me btcguild is ideal

I have 2 s-3's posted at btcguild at my friends office.  So I can compare my hash /btc to this hash/ btc  ..  I should always be close to 2x on my in office.

If there is a big difference  I can point it out to zen-gaw

[mrcable]

from what you have posted and what i have  seen it still shows that scypt is best Return per buck spent . and that Nice hash site is kinda good payoff if you ask me

[philipma1957]

from what you have posted and what i have  seen it still shows that scypt is best Return per buck spent . and that Nice hash site is kinda good payoff if you ask me

So far the scrypt deal seems best but in the future?  for me having both is more comfortable I like to hedge my bets.

But the s-3 deal may be good for resale on ebay.  mine it 30 days  ship it to my house and then sell it.  Very tough to decide what to buy. Buying a falcon and a s-3 was just an easier choice.

I also wanted to be able to day by day compare of the two.

my earnings are below.

the .022011 btc is the falcon
the .008365 btc is the s-3  it is less since it is not a full 24 hours newly added today
the .002861 btc is the gridseed blades

[reyhan12]

I hope scrypt continues to be on top in terms of profitability as I've been focusing my attention there. Also why i follow this thread intently. 

Anyway, I believe GAW and Zen will be doing a joint promo tonight or tomorrow. The promos are good but still aren't as good as what philipma1957 got. A falcon for $500. For those that are interested, here's the link you should follow

https://hashtalk.org/t/24-hour-joint-gaw-and-zencloud-promo/4144/4

[crashoveride54902]

hmm your falcon got you .022btc and my war machine gets .03btc a day...shouldn't mine be closer to double what you make? and really right now how do i know they aren't taking out hosting fee? i have no idea what it is suppose to make a day or what it is actually making you on clever for your pool?

[philipma1957]

hmm your falcon got you .022btc and my war machine gets .03btc a day...shouldn't mine be closer to double what you make? and really right now how do i know they aren't taking out hosting fee? i have no idea what it is suppose to make a day or what it is actually making you on clever for your pool?

I have been bouncing back and forth on the pools. the last day I was on nicehash.  I think .

One pool one day sucked. It was multipool it earned .0156 on the  23rd of july


I tell you what  My falcon  is on nicehash  right now.

 It reads 25.78mh  and it reads .02100517 due.

If you move your war to nicehash and keep it there .

 we can match payouts.   not tonights since we both have not been on the same pool for 24 hours.

 tomorrows  payout should be 2x for you.

 if we both stay on nicehash  for 24 hours from tonight's payout to tomorrow night's payout we have a comparison  basis.

BTW the ability to track if payout are correct has seemed a little hard.

But I will stay with nice hash and I will keep watching there numbers here:

https://www.nicehash.com/

they are paying .8961btc for   1000 mh  with the current stats for the day.   so if you check it all day and divide by your hash rate  in my case about 25.mh  you have a number to compare to
My falcon should be 1/40 of .8961 btc or .0224 btc and that was close.

I purchased the s-3 for 2 reasons
 1) I wanted some 256 hash  
2) I own 2  s-3's already pointed at btcguild.

I can see my btc earned  one my in house compared to  my earned on zencloud.

I should be close.

below is a screen shot of most of my  falcon earnings   the .08 is the partial s-3 first day the .014 is the partial first day of the falcon .  the rest are different days of the falcon it bounces a lot if the pool was lucky or unlucky.   multipool has been the worse pool.  then wafflepool.   So I do not use those two.

[philipma1957]

hmm your falcon got you .022btc and my war machine gets .03btc a day...shouldn't mine be closer to double what you make? and really right now how do i know they aren't taking out hosting fee? i have no idea what it is suppose to make a day or what it is actually making you on clever for your pool?

[/b] your first payment Is not for 24 hours it was partial![/b]  if you look at the screen shot my partial payment for the  first falcon day was .014…btc


I have been bouncing back and forth on the pools. the last day I was on nicehash.  I think .

One pool one day sucked. It was multipool it earned .0156 on the  23rd of july


I tell you what  My falcon  is on nicehash  right now.

 It reads 25.78mh  and it reads .02100517 due.

If you move your war to nicehash and keep it there .

 we can match payouts.   not tonights since we both have not been on the same pool for 24 hours.

 tomorrows  payout should be 2x for you.

 if we both stay on nicehash  for 24 hours from tonight's payout to tomorrow night's payout we have a comparison  basis.

BTW the ability to track if payout are correct has seemed a little hard.

But I will stay with nice hash and I will keep watching there numbers here:

https://www.nicehash.com/

they are paying .8961btc for   1000 mh  with the current stats for the day.   so if you check it all day and divide by your hash rate  in my case about 25.mh  you have a number to compare to
My falcon should be 1/40 of .8961 btc or .0224 btc and that was close. to last night's number paid to me

I purchased the s-3 for 2 reasons
 1) I wanted some 256 hash  
2) I own 2  s-3's already pointed at btcguild.

I can see my btc earned  one my in house compared to  my earned on zencloud.

I should be close.

below is a screen shot of most of my  falcon earnings   the .08 is the partial s-3 first day the .014 is the partial first day of the falcon .  the rest are different days of the falcon it bounces a lot if the pool was lucky or unlucky.   multipool has been the worse pool.  then wafflepool.   So I do not use those two.

[ShibaWow]

I'm also wondering, what's it in for them

Where do they earn money?

[philipma1957]

I'm also wondering, what's it in for them

Where do they earn money?

Well do you mean the pool's like nicehash, coinking etc or do you mean  gawminers/zencloud?

The pools charge fees.

Gawminers gets your payment for the gear then after the free hosting they get a hosting fee.


ZenCloud must have a contract with both the pool and with gawminers ---  just a guess don't really know.

[ShibaWow]

I'm also wondering, what's it in for them

Where do they earn money?

Well do you mean the pool's like nicehash, coinking etc or do you mean  gawminers/zencloud?

The pools charge fees.

Gawminers gets your payment for the gear then after the free hosting they get a hosting fee.


ZenCloud must have a contract with both the pool and with gawminers ---  just a guess don't really know.

I mean about ZenCloud

yeah, I know about their fee

but the fee is supposed to cover their electricity costs, and the gear isn't expensive

it seems like they're doing charity

I mean I don't mind

[crashoveride54902]

I'm also wondering, what's it in for them

Where do they earn money?

Well do you mean the pool's like nicehash, coinking etc or do you mean  gawminers/zencloud?

The pools charge fees.

Gawminers gets your payment for the gear then after the free hosting they get a hosting fee.


ZenCloud must have a contract with both the pool and with gawminers ---  just a guess don't really know.

I mean about ZenCloud

yeah, I know about their fee

but the fee is supposed to cover their electricity costs, and the gear isn't expensive

it seems like they're doing charity

I mean I don't mind

ya it isn't expensive anymore cause nobody is buying it anymore plus it probably didn't cost anywhere near what they are selling them for to make them...

@philip my 2nd day was also .030 btc too...yes i have switched to nicehash this morning and the expected payout went to .037 vs the .030 it was at...but ya still no way of knowing if they are taking the hosting fee out right now...i guess i'll just have to wait 30 days n see if it drops...course with the amount it makes a day dropping as well that might be hard as well...oh well .06 btc made for 2 days off the 2.08 it costed...so 2.02 btc more to go

EDIT: just looked at my zenportal estimated payout== .0422 btc yep that is double...i'll take it

[kcheel]

Thanks for the thread.  I bought a Falcon today during the sale.  Wanted the War Machine and had it in my cart but when I went to complete it, they were sold out.    Sold my 2 Blades on Ebay which actually paid for the Falcon, so definitely happy with going from 11mh to 27mh and not costing me anything.

[philipma1957]

Thanks for the thread.  I bought a Falcon today during the sale.  Wanted the War Machine and had it in my cart but when I went to complete it, they were sold out.    Sold my 2 Blades on Ebay which actually paid for the Falcon, so definitely happy with going from 11mh to 27mh and not costing me anything.

Just posted new numbers




 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=698679.msg7923839#msg7923839


I earned   .0352 btc   for all 3 pieces of gear last night

[crashoveride54902]

I got .039 btc for nice hash...now the expected payout says .046 lol i hope i get that

[philipma1957]

I got .039 btc for nice hash...now the expected payout says .046 lol i hope i get that

Yeah it moves around a bit.  Multipool seems to struggle.  A while back Multipool and bitminter thread were arguing that multipool's software under preforms. Multipool left in a huff.

I gave multipool 1 day here and they did badly.  I am not dissing multipool, but for my scrypt I will use nicehash.


https://www.nicehash.com/


they predict .9723 -1.1795 btc for a gh of scrypt right now  that is about a 1.075   btc payout for 1000 mh.

  I have 31 mh  so  31/1000 x 1.075 = .033325 btc  for me

 for you  52/1000 x 1.075 = .0559 btc     but  that is now if they slow on blocks it drops.

So far they are having a good day today.

[crashoveride54902]

I got .039 btc for nice hash...now the expected payout says .046 lol i hope i get that

Yeah it moves around a bit.  Multipool seems to struggle.  A while back Multipool and bitminter thread were arguing that multipool's software under preforms. Multipool left in a huff.

I gave multipool 1 day here and they did badly.  I am not dissing multipool, but for my scrypt I will use nicehash.


https://www.nicehash.com/


they predict .9723 -1.1795 btc for a gh of scrypt right now  that is about a 1.075   btc payout for 1000 mh.

  I have 31 mh  so  31/1000 x 1.075 = .033325 btc  for me

 for you  52/1000 x 1.075 = .0559 btc     but  that is now if they slow on blocks it drops.

So far they are having a good day today.

Ya I think I'll stay on nice hash...might even move over my other 80mh/s too

[Librexcoindev]

My falcon and Black widow work real well with the zenminer setup. So far so good.

[philipma1957]

I got .039 btc for nice hash...now the expected payout says .046 lol i hope i get that

Yeah it moves around a bit.  Multipool seems to struggle.  A while back Multipool and bitminter thread were arguing that multipool's software under preforms. Multipool left in a huff.

I gave multipool 1 day here and they did badly.  I am not dissing multipool, but for my scrypt I will use nicehash.


https://www.nicehash.com/


they predict .9723 -1.1795 btc for a gh of scrypt right now  that is about a 1.075   btc payout for 1000 mh.

  I have 31 mh  so  31/1000 x 1.075 = .033325 btc  for me

 for you  52/1000 x 1.075 = .0559 btc     but  that is now if they slow on blocks it drops.

So far they are having a good day today.

Ya I think I'll stay on nice hash...might even move over my other 80mh/s too

  yeah  I have 14 in house gridseeds I may move them from wemineltc.com to nicehash

[Librexcoindev]

I prefer nicehash as well. i mined on it before it was linked to zenminer and was happy to see it paired up.

[philipma1957]

I prefer nicehash as well. i mined on it before it was linked to zenminer and was happy to see it paired up.

I found a decent price on zighash for a falcon


http://www.zighash.com/collections/frontpage/products/27-mh-s-the-falcon-by-gaw-miners-1-month-of-free-zencloud-hosting-service-24-hour-activation


575 1 month free hosting.  I think zighash is btc only


Note that link is not a referral I get no coin for posting it.

 I also found some codes for the gawmners website.

 I do not post  that blog just found it last nite at this  link :


   http://hoosierminer.com/gawminers-coupon-codes

[crashoveride54902]

good luck switching nonhosted units over to nicehash...its not like a regular pool...guess ya need certain mining software or some that works with that pool...been putz'in around with it for a cpl hrs now...think i'm bout to give up oh well

[philipma1957]

good luck switching nonhosted units over to nicehash...its not like a regular pool...guess ya need certain mining software or some that works with that pool...been putz'in around with it for a cpl hrs now...think i'm bout to give up oh well

Just got paid nice payouts today.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=698679.msg7923839#msg7923839


I have been busy today I have not had a chance to try to switch my 14 in house gridseeds to nicehash. maybe on thur I can do it.

[crashoveride54902]

good luck switching nonhosted units over to nicehash...its not like a regular pool...guess ya need certain mining software or some that works with that pool...been putz'in around with it for a cpl hrs now...think i'm bout to give up oh well

Just got paid nice payouts today.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=698679.msg7923839#msg7923839


I have been busy today I have not had a chance to try to switch my 14 in house gridseeds to nicehash. maybe on thur I can do it.

ya i tried for 5hrs to get 4 orbs to mine there...no dice...idk about nicehash...their trust sucks and alotta forum member are sueing them for their scammy ways...oh well least my war machine got 0.0566215 BTC payout   and still looking at .058 payout maybe for tonight

Edit: my 80mh/s made less then my war machine on clever even if they are shady...hot damn those are some high payouts

EDIT2: well i got some of my hashes over there...for your 14 blades...if your using a zencontroller or pi with that image on it...you can just use that pool without any problem...i just switched over my blades to it and its working fine...now orbs is a different story but found a win cgminer that will play nice with that pool...but i have feeling i missed all the great payout of the pool as i think it'll start going down now

[philipma1957]

good luck switching nonhosted units over to nicehash...its not like a regular pool...guess ya need certain mining software or some that works with that pool...been putz'in around with it for a cpl hrs now...think i'm bout to give up oh well

Just got paid nice payouts today.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=698679.msg7923839#msg7923839


I have been busy today I have not had a chance to try to switch my 14 in house gridseeds to nicehash. maybe on thur I can do it.

ya i tried for 5hrs to get 4 orbs to mine there...no dice...idk about nicehash...their trust sucks and alotta forum member are sueing them for their scammy ways...oh well least my war machine got 0.0566215 BTC payout  and still looking at .058 payout maybe for tonight

WELL that is good to know that they may be shady. Still payoffs from them have been good.

I will keep my 14 gridseed blades at wemineltc and just use the  hosted falcon ,the s-3 and the gridseed blade at nicehash.

[philipma1957]

New payouts are in not as good as the day before.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=698679.msg7923839#msg7923839



but pools have ups and downs.


Staying with  nicehash for now.


a big list of new gear is posted on the site.



http://www.gawminers.com/categories/products/hosted-miners/by-brand/gaw-miners/generation-g.html


these are zeus chipped based with better power numbers.

I may get one to put on the cloud. prices are meh looking for a good deal.

he has some info and some codes

http://hoosierminer.com/new-low-power-asics-from-gaw/

http://www.couponit.com/deals/gawminerscode123262.html   this code may work

www.zighash.com does not have them listed yet

I get no kickbacks or referral money on codes


I will be busy today I have some s-3's from bitmaintech coming it.

[mrcable]

i noticed something fishy today , everytime i changed pools i got diffrent outcome . Tryed it again today to see if there were any changes to  the estimated payout , but i just realised all was the same ..
hmmm a Falcon even have dropped to 0.01988+

how is Your Falcon acting phillip

[philipma1957]

i noticed something fishy today , everytime i changed pools i got diffrent outcome . Tryed it again today to see if there were any changes to  the estimated payout , but i just realised all was the same ..
hmmm a Falcon even have dropped to 0.01988+

how is Your Falcon acting phillip

yesterday my falcon did meh.  my payouts were a bit lower:  0.0193  the day before  0.0215   checking nicehash shows they had a lessor day so I am not freaked.

my thoughts are this…  lots of asic power is being tossed into scrypt  so weird shit will happen.  I will post the numbers from last night.  In a few minutes.  I got really busy with my s-3's that came to my home yesterday.

[mrcable]

i was wondering getting a warmachine yesterday , but this kinda set me off . i see that setting the scryot miner to multialgoritm would have been the best option . but then again notheing we can controll tho.

[philipma1957]

i was wondering getting a warmachine yesterday , but this kinda set me off . i see that setting the scryot miner to multialgoritm would have been the best option . but then again notheing we can controll tho.

posted new numbers

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=698679.msg7923839#msg7923839



Here are my thoughts  as of today.

   I am going to order from them again.

 I will post my order in about 1 hour.

 I think it is the best deal around.------ but we all know how that shit changes in mining.

Okay I placed an order 2 minutes ago.  here is a screenshot of it.


notice I used  a gaw affiliate to get a 20 dollar discount.

 it is a bitmain s-3 for 449 usd   - 20 bucks =  429 usd  I earned 4300 points for later that will further lower my 429 price.

I paid with a discover card that means 60 day protection from seller fraud and I have a 4% promo   so the 429 price drops to 411.84

I get 30 days free hosting.  In my house a s-3 will cost me more then 34 usd in power in a month.

 so the 411.84- 34 =  377.84 usd   right now of bitmaintech a s-3 =  .68 btc that id more money

[philipma1957]

Interesting. I'm thinking about investing in a cloud but there's so many different companies out there. People like you are very helpful, thanks for doing this.

this is hosting not really cloud you own the gear and they will send it to you

So take the free hosting for the month and A ship it to your home or B let them host it for 90 cents a day.

you get this cheaper then anywhere for 1 unit.



I posted my newest purchase above

  here it is on the gaw miner website

So here is my thinking BTC is the king of coins. (more stable)

the s-3 is .68btc  must buy 2 = 1.36btc

order today direct from the manufacture   you spend 1.36 btc

for 2 you need to buy a psu.  your power cost will be 350 watts for each one.

the affiliate  I used for my 20 dollar discount is here

http://hoosierminer.com/gawminers-coupon-codes/

his best code is gaw25

if you want to go through his blog you can.  or

you can just go to gawminer direct.

http://www.gawminers.com/products/478-gh-s-antminer-s3-by-bitmain-tech-1-month-of-free-zencloud-hosting-service-august-8th-activation-asic-sha-256-miner/


or go to my referral

http://www.gawminers.com/?ref=sloyalty&token=txBFuzcYfHTg

[crashoveride54902]

i noticed something fishy today , everytime i changed pools i got diffrent outcome . Tryed it again today to see if there were any changes to  the estimated payout , but i just realised all was the same ..
hmmm a Falcon even have dropped to 0.01988+

how is Your Falcon acting phillip

yep i see the same thing...all pools the same...i wonder if the update to the website has anything to do with that...it use to not say 21 days left free...wonder if that was cause i asked how do you really know if they are taking out the hosting fee or not from start...guess you still really have to trust them...my war machine got .041 yesterday and .042 the day before that...estimated says now .039...so we'll see tonight how close that is

nice has is currently paying 0.5404 BTC/GH/Day / 1000 * 54 = 0.0291816 vs my .039 estimated payout...hmm i guess i'll take an extra .01 oh well it is what it is...
but their current payout changes alot during the day i think

I did manage to get my other 80mh/s over to nicehash but like i said before i think i missed those great payouts but i seem to be still making more then on clever or anywhere else which is nice

[philipma1957]

i noticed something fishy today , everytime i changed pools i got diffrent outcome . Tryed it again today to see if there were any changes to  the estimated payout , but i just realised all was the same ..
hmmm a Falcon even have dropped to 0.01988+

how is Your Falcon acting phillip

yep i see the same thing...all pools the same...i wonder if the update to the website has anything to do with that...it use to not say 21 days left free...wonder if that was cause i asked how do you really know if they are taking out the hosting fee or not from start...guess you still really have to trust them...my war machine got .041 yesterday and .042 the day before that...estimated says now .039...so we'll see tonight how close that is

nice has is currently paying 0.5404 BTC/GH/Day / 1000 * 54 = 0.0291816 vs my .039 estimated payout...hmm i guess i'll take an extra .01 oh well it is what it is...
but their current payout changes alot during the day i think

I did manage to get my other 80mh/s over to nicehash but like i said before i think i missed those great payouts but i seem to be still making more then on clever or anywhere else which is nice

right now scrypt mining has me a bit scared/nervous.  I have 70mh + 32 mh.  The stability in price makes me want to back off a bit.

I listed 2 of my 14 in house  gridseed blades on ebay.  I am looking to increase s-3's.  the deal above for 1 s-3 is pretty good.

I now have 2 s-3's in house 2 s-3's at my friends office. 1 s-3 active at zen and a second s-3 to be setup on zen.  gives me 6 s-3's

and I have a dragon miner in china.

[crashoveride54902]

i noticed something fishy today , everytime i changed pools i got diffrent outcome . Tryed it again today to see if there were any changes to  the estimated payout , but i just realised all was the same ..
hmmm a Falcon even have dropped to 0.01988+

how is Your Falcon acting phillip

yep i see the same thing...all pools the same...i wonder if the update to the website has anything to do with that...it use to not say 21 days left free...wonder if that was cause i asked how do you really know if they are taking out the hosting fee or not from start...guess you still really have to trust them...my war machine got .041 yesterday and .042 the day before that...estimated says now .039...so we'll see tonight how close that is

nice has is currently paying 0.5404 BTC/GH/Day / 1000 * 54 = 0.0291816 vs my .039 estimated payout...hmm i guess i'll take an extra .01 oh well it is what it is...
but their current payout changes alot during the day i think

I did manage to get my other 80mh/s over to nicehash but like i said before i think i missed those great payouts but i seem to be still making more then on clever or anywhere else which is nice

right now scrypt mining has me a bit scared/nervous.  I have 70mh + 32 mh.  The stability in price makes me want to back off a bit.

I listed 2 of my 14 in house  gridseed blades on ebay.  I am looking to increase s-3's.  the deal above for 1 s-3 is pretty good.

I now have 2 s-3's in house 2 s-3's at my friends office. 1 s-3 active at zen and a second s-3 to be setup on zen.  gives me 6 s-3's

and I have a dragon miner in china.

ya the jump up n down has me scared too...can't really figure out a ROI if one day you get .056 and next ,042 and if it keeps dropping fast who knows I currently have 6th/s on btc which is way more stable and easier to predict ROI...3th/s in my home n 3th/s hosted in china...

I still don't know if i wanna buy more scrypt or btc miners or just let this all ride out and hang up my mining hat...i mean you can literally just keep reinvesting the btc ya make from all this and buy more miners and do that over n over but in the end what is the point? you'll just keep making about the same per day and in the end you'll just have more hw to try and sell...tough choices to be made that is for sure

EDIT: oh and nicehash split their service up...also have westhash now too for usa...you can't just use nicehash and be on both...its weird like that...one or the other...currently westhash paying better for scrypt right now

[philipma1957]

i noticed something fishy today , everytime i changed pools i got diffrent outcome . Tryed it again today to see if there were any changes to  the estimated payout , but i just realised all was the same ..
hmmm a Falcon even have dropped to 0.01988+

how is Your Falcon acting phillip

yep i see the same thing...all pools the same...i wonder if the update to the website has anything to do with that...it use to not say 21 days left free...wonder if that was cause i asked how do you really know if they are taking out the hosting fee or not from start...guess you still really have to trust them...my war machine got .041 yesterday and .042 the day before that...estimated says now .039...so we'll see tonight how close that is

nice has is currently paying 0.5404 BTC/GH/Day / 1000 * 54 = 0.0291816 vs my .039 estimated payout...hmm i guess i'll take an extra .01 oh well it is what it is...
but their current payout changes alot during the day i think

I did manage to get my other 80mh/s over to nicehash but like i said before i think i missed those great payouts but i seem to be still making more then on clever or anywhere else which is nice

right now scrypt mining has me a bit scared/nervous.  I have 70mh + 32 mh.  The stability in price makes me want to back off a bit.

I listed 2 of my 14 in house  gridseed blades on ebay.  I am looking to increase s-3's.  the deal above for 1 s-3 is pretty good.

I now have 2 s-3's in house 2 s-3's at my friends office. 1 s-3 active at zen and a second s-3 to be setup on zen.  gives me 6 s-3's

and I have a dragon miner in china.

ya the jump up n down has me scared too...can't really figure out a ROI if one day you get .056 and next ,042 and if it keeps dropping fast who knows I currently have 6th/s on btc which is way more stable and easier to predict ROI...3th/s in my home n 3th/s hosted in china...

I still don't know if i wanna buy more scrypt or btc miners or just let this all ride out and hang up my mining hat...i mean you can literally just keep reinvesting the btc ya make from all this and buy more miners and do that over n over but in the end what is the point? you'll just keep making about the same per day and in the end you'll just have more hw to try and sell...tough choices to be made that is for sure

I caught  the march- april 2013 run nice.   I caught the oct - nov 2013 run nice.  I am ahead maybe 10k-12k.

I think  I do not want much more gear right now. I will keep this thread going  since I do think that gawminers are giving a good deal.  You need to shop them like you do amazon or newegg.

the aug 8th s-3 for 449 with 1 months free hosting is a good deal.  I will keep up the posts here  as best I can.

[mrcable]

have you heard any rewievs on the New miners that came out , like the Boulder. its like half of maintnance cost then the warmachine

[philipma1957]

have you heard any rewievs on the New miners that came out , like the Boulder. its like half of maintnance cost then the warmachine

new gear
no news
not sure  if they run to the power advertised.


have to say if the boulder runs that low it could be good.


also have to say  that the antminer s-3 deal I mentioned above is very low price. 

I am looking to hedge risk and right now I am heavy on scrypt and lite on  btc.  But a boulder on a good sale tempts me.

[mrcable]

how much does a antminer s3 give on btc guild ?

[philipma1957]

how much does a antminer s3 give on btc guild ?

btc guild has ups and downs  due to pool luck.  but my totals have been


July 29th _____________> 0.00836575  first day partial BTCGuild
July 30th _____________> 0.01261531   "     "       "         "
July 31st _____________> 0.01237485   "     "       "         "

Aug  1st _____________> 0.01264922   "     "       "         "
Aug  2nd _____________>0.01262237   "    "       "          "


now that comes to about the same as


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty  says you should get  .01237

this is why I mentioned that buying the s-3 to be activated on aug 8th for 449 using the discount codes and a cc is the best deal they are offering today.

tomorrow who knows.    Today I know of no deal for an s-3 with a better price.  If someone has a better please post it  as maybe gaw/zen will match it.

  

[mrcable]

have you heard whats happening in 17 hours. saw some talk about it on hashtalk

[crashoveride54902]

have you heard whats happening in 17 hours. saw some talk about it on hashtalk

anymore info then that?

[philipma1957]

have you heard whats happening in 17 hours. saw some talk about it on hashtalk

Link please?  I spent 20 minutes trying to figure out what he meant now I am in suspense!

[crashoveride54902]

my 80mh/s made .058 btc at westhash today if i get my estimated amount on my war machine that'll be .039 btc....pretty happy with everything so far...by far the best payout i've gotten for my 80mh/s just hope it keeps making this much for alittle bit to get closer to ROI

[mrcable]

https://hashtalk.org/t/its-coming-100-asics-72-hours-8-rewards-3-tiers-a-terrific-cause-and-1-awesome-community/4625/29


here is what i was talking asbout.. they only take btc tho :/

[mrcable]

bt the way .. lowest payout ever on nicehash .. waffelpool is the best as of now

[crashoveride54902]

https://hashtalk.org/t/its-coming-100-asics-72-hours-8-rewards-3-tiers-a-terrific-cause-and-1-awesome-community/4625/29


here is what i was talking asbout.. they only take btc tho :/

that is a pretty good deal...are they trusted thou?

[mrcable]

well acording to what i know the dude organising the stuff is a gaw affiliate but i dont know tho

[mrcable]

one more thing tho . gawminer have increased the prices.... making the offer to good to resist

[Munz77]

Yeah, i agree. Wafflepool is the best at the moment.

My falcons are paying 017 and, war machines 035.

Why has it been declining since July though? My last 24hr payout was lowest so far.

[crashoveride54902]

Yeah, i agree. Wafflepool is the best at the moment.

My falcons are paying 017 and, war machines 035.

Why has it been declining since July though? My last 24hr payout was lowest so far.

the altcoins are getting hammered by asics? i fear they will be dead soon...i mean all they really can be used for is trading and really who want to do that? hehe

[Munz77]

Yeah, its a little worrying.

Im running 421-426 mh/s with 3 War machines and 10 Falcons.

Daily Payouts:

31 July - 0.373
1st Aug - 0.308
2nd Aug - 0.3109
3rd Aug - 0.267
4th Aug - 0.177

It will be zero within a week or two.

[mrcable]

New day and a New pool . changed to multipool today.. :/

[mrcable]

oh went and bought a few antminer s3 zen hosted instead of more scrypt miners tho, i went and wrote a suggestion about putting ghash pool into the list. i have been sucsessful there, got 2.8 th there atm that i mine from home. But sorry to say the the Power issue have arrised and i need to seek hosted option instead.

[Munz77]

New day and a New pool . changed to multipool today.. :/

Same. Best paying so far...

Those S3's for the 8th look good.

[mrcable]

Yeah , i am ordering 2 . but to get the most for my buck you order 1 then 1 more after and use cuponcode gaw25. which is 25 dolla off

[judypug1956]

I am  philipma1957    this is my one and only second account.  I use it on the road . I am out of town for a BIT.  I ended up with 2 s-3's hosted on the zen cloud. For now I am going to sit back a bit. I sold one in house gridseed on ebay sat.  I have 13 of them left.

If I figure my full cash in I have too much in alt coins and not enough in btc.  I may buy 2 more s-3's.  I will check back here in a day.  No postings to my zen stats for a few days.

[Munz77]

Im running 421-426 mh/s with 3 War machines and 10 Falcons.

Daily Payouts:

31 July - 0.373
1st Aug - 0.308
2nd Aug - 0.3109
3rd Aug - 0.267
4th Aug - 0.177
5th Aug - 0.281

[crashoveride54902]

Im running 421-426 mh/s with 3 War machines and 10 Falcons.

Daily Payouts:

31 July - 0.373
1st Aug - 0.308
2nd Aug - 0.3109
3rd Aug - 0.267
4th Aug - 0.177
5th Aug - 0.281

Any idea what happened on the 4th? The payout almost halved in 1 day.

maybe the price crashed? idk...hopefully everything recovers for awhile

[Munz77]

Ive started another thread as i will be dumping screens.

Feel free to comment

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=726340.new#new

[philipma1957]

I am  philipma1957    this is my one and only second account.  I use it on the road . I am out of town for a BIT.  I ended up with 2 s-3's hosted on the zen cloud. For now I am going to sit back a bit. I sold one in house gridseed on ebay sat.  I have 13 of them left.

If I figure my full cash in I have too much in alt coins and not enough in btc.  I may buy 2 more s-3's.  I will check back here in a day.  No postings to my zen stats for a few days.

 I am back from a 3 day vacation.  I will update this thread.

While on vacation my access was limited partially to maintain some sanity.

I sold off 3 gridseed blades in house.

My zen cloud holdings earned about .094 btc in 3 days.

I have 1 gridseed blade on zen
I have 1 falcon on zen
I have 1 active antminer s-3 on zen

I have a second s-3 on zen due for the 8th of aug.

I have 4 in house  s-3's

I have 11 in house gridseeds

I have 1 hosted dragon miner in china.

 My payouts  are steady for btc but they flux with scrypt coins a lot.  will post soon.

[kcheel]

Yeah, my #'s yesterday were like Sunday's were, terrible.

[philipma1957]

put in new numbers for the last 3 days.  all on nice hash for scrypt and on btcguild for the s-3


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=698679.msg7923839#msg7923839


the s-3 has been steady at  about 0.0122 btc each day those are good solid numbers.

[Munz77]

put in new numbers for the last 3 days.  all on nice hash for scrypt and on btcguild for the s-3


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=698679.msg7923839#msg7923839


the s-3 has been steady at  about 0.0122 btc each day those are good solid numbers.

Do you find the S3's are better than the scrypt miners?

[philipma1957]

put in new numbers for the last 3 days.  all on nice hash for scrypt and on btcguild for the s-3


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=698679.msg7923839#msg7923839


the s-3 has been steady at  about 0.0122 btc each day those are good solid numbers.

Do you find the S3's are better than the scrypt miners?

today yes. tomorrow? The other day before I went on vacation I pushed buy s-3's in this thread.  I did order a second which will go online in about 2 days.

Since i said buy one from gaw miners they raised the price from 449 to 474. my guess is someone on the payroll figured out my advice they were a bargain at 449 jumped in and upped the price.

I am good at finding  a deal.  I have been doing this since the 90's before the tv show extreme couponing came out.  right now I came back from a 3-4 day vacation. i drove about 1100 miles and i am tired.

i look at the new gaw site and i did not see a real good deal. but 474 with a coupon works if you are high power home.  my power cost is 16 cents a k watt.  I spend about 42 usd a month to run a s-3.

  gaw miners charges me 27 dollars. so the free month I gain 42 dollars . so I gain 15 dollars   a month after that.   so in 3 months that is 72 bucks saved.  that means the 474 price is only 402.

that is good.  if you are in New Jersey.  if you pay under 9 cents foe power the bargain in power does not exist at all.   also they changed the gawminers website I don't see my  9200 points  I do not want to order until the new site cleans ups.

edit

the earnings came in about .03   and my s-3 did very well again.

[judypug1956]

Did you get earnings  for Thursday nite yet?

[philipma1957]

Yes and the s-3 did well again.  They had a sale on s-3's on oneminer the 449 price they sold out fast.

I am tired will post numbers in the morning.

  The falcon and the gridseed were low the s-3 good.

I should get a second s-3 on line on the 8th  which is friday.

[crashoveride54902]

Did you get earnings  for Thursday nite yet?

my WM got .028 on NH

[iluvbitcoins]

my first miner [s3] is activated now

I'm wondering how often do we see our earnings?
once a day?

I'v also seen the 450$ order is still active on http://oneminer.com/

has anyone used the website, is it legit?

[philipma1957]

I posted last nites numbers. the s-3 looks good the scrypt are shakey

my first miner [s3] is activated now

I'm wondering how often do we see our earnings?
once a day?

I'v also seen the 450$ order is still active on http://oneminer.com/

has anyone used the website, is it legit?

 

yes it is legit  I did an order from them.  they belong to gawminers.

here is my order. I used a cc

[iluvbitcoins]

do you know any coupons I could use for my order?

I also asked how often does the balance update on zenminer, since it shows 0.000 now heh

[philipma1957]

do you know any coupons I could use for my order?

I also asked how often does the balance update on zenminer, since it shows 0.000 now heh

oneminer gives no coupons but offers a lower price.

the same s-3 on gawminers is 499  I can find coupons for gawminers,  but no coupon bigger then 25  so 499-25 = 474


zenminer should update about 11:30 pm eastern standard time.

[iluvbitcoins]

do you know any coupons I could use for my order?

I also asked how often does the balance update on zenminer, since it shows 0.000 now heh

oneminer gives no coupons but offers a lower price.

the same s-3 on gawminers is 499  I can find coupons for gawminers,  but no coupon bigger then 25  so 499-25 = 474


zenminer should update about 11:30 pm eastern standard time.

it's also 470$ in zenshop

they do, we just don't have any



paid for it successfully

waiting for the information so I can set it up in my ZenMiner account

[Honeycutt22]

Does anyone else see using the Zencloud as kind of a very limited mining experience? I've recently purchased 2 750mh Vaultbreakers and they will be hosted there..

I also recently learned that the cloud only supports major multipools with no ability to mine specific coins. I read after the 30 day hosting you can have it shipped but it also says something about a 14 day decommissioning phase? Does that mean you're not mining those 14 days? Seems like a tactic to prevent you from switching hosting services, if true?

is there word on the ability to mine coins that you want to?

[philipma1957]

I don't know much about the vaultbreaker.

I do know they give you a choice of pools.

I do know if your power is more then 14 cents per k watt they are around 9.9 cents per k watt.

I do know they provide the psu while they host.

My guess is they will  stop mining if you ship it home.  I do not know if you are out of commission for 14 days.



 hey zen miners  reading this  :

you now get your activation code sent to your email not auto activated.  

so check your emails .   Or you will do what I

did: lose  hash time ..  my s-3 code came at 1am to my email no auto activation so I lost 13 hours of hash time.

about .006 btc lost!

[kcheel]

Just announced that GAW has acquired majority ownership of Zen.  Supposedly a lot of good updates on the way!  Which is good news to me.  Just bought a S3 yesterday to add to my Falcon and had it activated last night.  Picked up a combo deal today for a Lightning and another S3, just waiting for activation on those.

[kcheel]

Also they are going to give every current customer at Zen a free Fury and 3 months of free hosting for it.  I like free stuff! 

[philipma1957]

Also they are going to give every current customer at Zen a free Fury and 3 months of free hosting for it.  I like free stuff! 

woohoo me too

here my opinion with the hosting...I think they are mining elsewhere and just giving us the expected rate for the pool we choose in their list...the reason i say this cause i "had" my own home miners pointed to westhash for a few days no problem, all hashrate was stable, then they came out with saying WH and NH are gona merge and miners will be paid the same on both sites...and then boom my hashrate went to hell..up n down up n down...then they came out saying use this proxy to connect your miners, ok tried that same thing, wild hashrate swings so i jumped elsewhere but it just sucks cause i wanna mine on there with all my hash...so that is the reason i think they just payout estimated pool and why it is paided out late cause they have to wait for all the pools to update...just my humble opinion, take it for what it is worth...cause if the unit was actually mining on there, it probably would be getting less then avg payout for pool...

hmm now saying that...it's a good thing they doing it that way just wonder where they are actually mining? and maybe they are making more doing it that way? cause if whatever they are doing is paying lets say .05 btc a day and NH avg. payout is .03 btc a day...well then they just made .02btc and didn't even have to do anything for it I have no proof that this is actually what they are doing, nor do i really care as long as i keep getting at least something for my unit

I suspect they have sp30's and 80mh  scrypt miners in bulk.  They have serious cash and if you had lots of cash and connections you could get gear much cheaper.
 my thoughts are they may have sp30's in bulk at  prices like 2.5k each. Hosting them in the north west states at 3-6 cents a kwatt.
It would turn a huge profit for them and allow for us to get good deals. If they offer them at s-3 packages . whether  that is legal or ethical whom am i to say. I buy with cc's only.  I get 60 day  cc protection so I give them business.

If I mine in house an s-3 costs me 42 usd a month they charge me 27 a month with 1 free month.  hard to get past this.

I have enough to mine with right now.  I will stand pat on my gear for a bit. No results on my new s-3 should post later today or early sat.

[Munz77]

Also they are going to give every current customer at Zen a free Fury and 3 months of free hosting for it.  I like free stuff! 

woohoo me too

here my opinion with the hosting...I think they are mining elsewhere and just giving us the expected rate for the pool we choose in their list...the reason i say this cause i "had" my own home miners pointed to westhash for a few days no problem, all hashrate was stable, then they came out with saying WH and NH are gona merge and miners will be paid the same on both sites...and then boom my hashrate went to hell..up n down up n down...then they came out saying use this proxy to connect your miners, ok tried that same thing, wild hashrate swings so i jumped elsewhere but it just sucks cause i wanna mine on there with all my hash...so that is the reason i think they just payout estimated pool and why it is paided out late cause they have to wait for all the pools to update...just my humble opinion, take it for what it is worth...cause if the unit was actually mining on there, it probably would be getting less then avg payout for pool...

hmm now saying that...it's a good thing they doing it that way just wonder where they are actually mining? and maybe they are making more doing it that way? cause if whatever they are doing is paying lets say .05 btc a day and NH avg. payout is .03 btc a day...well then they just made .02btc and didn't even have to do anything for it I have no proof that this is actually what they are doing, nor do i really care as long as i keep getting at least something for my unit

I suspect they have sp30's and 80mh  scrypt miners in bulk.  They have serious cash and if you had lots of cash and connections you could get gear much cheaper.
 my thoughts are they may have sp30's in bulk at  prices like 2.5k each. Hosting them in the north west states at 3-6 cents a kwatt.
It would turn a huge profit for them and allow for us to get good deals. If they offer them at s-3 packages . whether  that is legal or ethical whom am i to say. I buy with cc's only.  I get 60 day  cc protection so I give them business.

If I mine in house an s-3 costs me 42 usd a month they charge me 27 a month with 1 free month.  hard to get past this.

I have enough to mine with right now.  I will stand pat on my gear for a bit. No results on my new s-3 should post later today or early sat.

I thought SP30's weren't available till Sept? They must have serious power tho as i saw on hash talk that the CEO g/tee the S3 to run at 446 regardless.

[philipma1957]

Also they are going to give every current customer at Zen a free Fury and 3 months of free hosting for it.  I like free stuff! 

woohoo me too

here my opinion with the hosting...I think they are mining elsewhere and just giving us the expected rate for the pool we choose in their list...the reason i say this cause i "had" my own home miners pointed to westhash for a few days no problem, all hashrate was stable, then they came out with saying WH and NH are gona merge and miners will be paid the same on both sites...and then boom my hashrate went to hell..up n down up n down...then they came out saying use this proxy to connect your miners, ok tried that same thing, wild hashrate swings so i jumped elsewhere but it just sucks cause i wanna mine on there with all my hash...so that is the reason i think they just payout estimated pool and why it is paided out late cause they have to wait for all the pools to update...just my humble opinion, take it for what it is worth...cause if the unit was actually mining on there, it probably would be getting less then avg payout for pool...

hmm now saying that...it's a good thing they doing it that way just wonder where they are actually mining? and maybe they are making more doing it that way? cause if whatever they are doing is paying lets say .05 btc a day and NH avg. payout is .03 btc a day...well then they just made .02btc and didn't even have to do anything for it I have no proof that this is actually what they are doing, nor do i really care as long as i keep getting at least something for my unit

I suspect they have sp30's and 80mh  scrypt miners in bulk.  They have serious cash and if you had lots of cash and connections you could get gear much cheaper.
 my thoughts are they may have sp30's in bulk at  prices like 2.5k each. Hosting them in the north west states at 3-6 cents a kwatt.
It would turn a huge profit for them and allow for us to get good deals. If they offer them at s-3 packages . whether  that is legal or ethical whom am i to say. I buy with cc's only.  I get 60 day  cc protection so I give them business.

If I mine in house an s-3 costs me 42 usd a month they charge me 27 a month with 1 free month.  hard to get past this.

I have enough to mine with right now.  I will stand pat on my gear for a bit. No results on my new s-3 should post later today or early sat.

I thought SP30's weren't available till Sept? They must have serious power tho as i saw on hash talk that the CEO g/tee the S3 to run at 446 regardless.

they are around I have seen tests and videos.
 not to say that gaw has them but they have some serious power.

the only way they can offer deals like they do is very lower power under 8 cents.

that means washington and oregon
they also need the best gear.

If I had 10 sp30s running at 4 cents a KWATT .

  I WOULD HAVE 45TH  using 30000 watts say 10000 more to cool that is 40 k watts or 1000kwatts a day at 4 cents it is 40 bucks a day in power and cooling.

if my home could run 100 s-3's it would be about 45th  power would be 35 kwatts plus 10 kwatts for cooling 1100kwatts a day at 16 cents  (new jersey) so 176 usd a day

so for power alone the difference is 136 a day.  if I pay him 450 a unit x 100 = 45000 usd.  if he paid 2500 a sp30 = 25000 usd.

nice profit for him and still a good deal for me.

not sure he is doing this.  but it is 1 way to give the prices he does and make money.

[iluvbitcoins]

Also they are going to give every current customer at Zen a free Fury and 3 months of free hosting for it.  I like free stuff!  

I got one yesterday

however, I don't see free hosting
it says 0.11 USD/day



the 2 antminers I bought say N/A, because I guess they have free hosting for a month?


-------------------------------

the s3 I bought on oneminer.com said to deliver 441+ gh/s

but it's really low



it usually goes around 430 gh/s

what's up with that?

the s3 I preordered on gawminers is on a stable 460-470 gh/s

[Munz77]

I have 2 S3's, one is currently 410 and the other is 453.

But if you check out the latest update from Josh (CEO of GAW/Zenminer), he is shortly offering "pool monitoring that automatically switches your pools to the the highest ROI targets in ream-time".

That will be huge. I think the current monitoring is not accurate, but this should change shortly.

[philipma1957]

Also they are going to give every current customer at Zen a free Fury and 3 months of free hosting for it.  I like free stuff!  

I got one yesterday

however, I don't see free hosting
it says 0.11 USD/day



the 2 antminers I bought say N/A, because I guess they have free hosting for a month?


-------------------------------

the s3 I bought on oneminer.com said to deliver 441+ gh/s

but it's really low



it usually goes around 430 gh/s

what's up with that?

the s3 I preordered on gawminers is on a stable 460-470 gh/s

yeah I read that the early orders will be at 460-470 to honor the first numbers given by antminer

 the new orders will be at 440 to order the real numbers now.

Do you have a copy of the oneminer sale ? see what it offers for hash.

Gawminers can frustrate at times. Your case would annoy me if I were you.  


BUT and a big BUT  they gave us all free fury's

Kind of like the little girl with the curl  when she is good she is so good, but when she is bad she is so bad.



I read about the lower numbers late last night and I decided to buy 2 direct from bitmaintech.

 that is a crap shoot I have four from bitmaintech  2 mine at 430 and 2 mine at  460.

I am waiting on my free fury will post back on it tonight.

 Some Real world shit happened yesterday:

I had a house fire yesterday in my kitchen.  I was really lucky.

The cooktop  on off controls that move the gas valves failed when boiling water for bok choi .  

The two knobs caught fire.  I was able to put the fire out pull a knob from the back burner and turn the front burners off.  

I am going to lowes to order a new cooktop.

[Munz77]

Also they are going to give every current customer at Zen a free Fury and 3 months of free hosting for it.  I like free stuff!  

I got one yesterday

however, I don't see free hosting
it says 0.11 USD/day



the 2 antminers I bought say N/A, because I guess they have free hosting for a month?


-------------------------------

the s3 I bought on oneminer.com said to deliver 441+ gh/s

but it's really low



it usually goes around 430 gh/s

what's up with that?

the s3 I preordered on gawminers is on a stable 460-470 gh/s

yeah I read that the early orders will be at 460-470 to honor the first numbers given by antminer

 the new orders will be at 440 to order the real numbers now.

Do you have a copy of the oneminer sale ? see what it offers for hash.

Gawminers can frustrate at times. Your case would annoy me if I were you.  


BUT and a big BUT  they gave us all free fury's

Kind of like the little girl with the curl  when she is good she is so good, but when she is bad she is so bad.



I read about the lower numbers late last night and I decided to buy 2 direct from bitmaintech.

 that is a crap shoot I have four from bitmaintech  2 mine at 430 and 2 mine at  460.

I am waiting on my free fury will post back on it tonight.

 Some Real world shit happened yesterday:

I had a house fire yesterday in my kitchen.  I was really lucky.

The cooktop  on off controls that move the gas valves failed when boiling water for bok choi .  

The two knobs caught fire.  I was able to put the fire out pull a knob from the back burner and turn the front burners off.  

I am going to lowes to order a new cooktop.

Holy crap, that sounds bad. Almost burnt the house down... and the miners!

[bitgeek]

Also they are going to give every current customer at Zen a free Fury and 3 months of free hosting for it.  I like free stuff!  

I got one yesterday

however, I don't see free hosting
it says 0.11 USD/day



the 2 antminers I bought say N/A, because I guess they have free hosting for a month?


-------------------------------

the s3 I bought on oneminer.com said to deliver 441+ gh/s

but it's really low



it usually goes around 430 gh/s

what's up with that?

the s3 I preordered on gawminers is on a stable 460-470 gh/s

yeah I read that the early orders will be at 460-470 to honor the first numbers given by antminer

 the new orders will be at 440 to order the real numbers now.

Do you have a copy of the oneminer sale ? see what it offers for hash.

Gawminers can frustrate at times. Your case would annoy me if I were you.  


BUT and a big BUT  they gave us all free fury's

Kind of like the little girl with the curl  when she is good she is so good, but when she is bad she is so bad.



I read about the lower numbers late last night and I decided to buy 2 direct from bitmaintech.

 that is a crap shoot I have four from bitmaintech  2 mine at 430 and 2 mine at  460.

I am waiting on my free fury will post back on it tonight.

 Some Real world shit happened yesterday:

I had a house fire yesterday in my kitchen.  I was really lucky.

The cooktop  on off controls that move the gas valves failed when boiling water for bok choi .  

The two knobs caught fire.  I was able to put the fire out pull a knob from the back burner and turn the front burners off.  

I am going to lowes to order a new cooktop.

Holy crap, that sounds bad. Almost burnt the house down... and the miners!

Haha No bok choi for him

I wonder what a miner would try to save first if the house was actually burning.
Your pc with wallet, or maybe the miners. Forget about children save the miners!

[crashoveride54902]

well glad your alright...when i first saw house fire i thought one of the miners was gona be the source

[iluvbitcoins]

yeah I read that the early orders will be at 460-470 to honor the first numbers given by antminer

 the new orders will be at 440 to order the real numbers now.

Do you have a copy of the oneminer sale ? see what it offers for hash.

Gawminers can frustrate at times. Your case would annoy me if I were you.  

I do

[kcheel]

My S3 from OneMiner.com also runs a little low, so its not just you.  I have never seen 440+ on it.  Usually averages around 425ish or so.

[philipma1957]

I am running 3 sets of s-3's

1 set at my friends office does  860 or 430 each.

1 set in house does 930 or 465 each

1 set at gawminers does   920 or 460 each

I purchased my worst set from bitmaintech batch 1

I purchased my best set from bitmaintech batch 4

 I purchased my gaw set on july 21 and Aug 2  and they honored higher rates.

They gave me a free fury last night or this morning with 90 days mining for free.  So it does help a bit.

I decided to buy a fourth set of s-3's last nite direct from bitmaintech.  here is the order

https://blockchain.info/tx/f730ff3d1edc6fbe5ec0219c7038d688b3b12d703c9b660f1487e0d348680780

 1.245 btc for the 2

 732 for 2 s-3's  

 it is 366usd  an s-3  As I had a coupon for .075btc

I have a lot of psu's  but  

 366 usd free psu   vs 449 usd hosted free psu free power for a month  (at gaw miners)  is close.

breakdown  366 + 1 month New Jersey Power =  366 + 42 = 408   gawminers  449 + 0 = 449

  only 41 difference   and the gawminers would be mining as I type    so it is about a tie. 

now if they ship by weds and mine on thurs at 475gh they win over the gaw deal.  If they ship later and mine at 440 the gaw deal wins.

Margins are really tight for us miners.

I just wanted to have another set on hand for now.
 I will post the burnt knobs on the cooktop.  give me 5 -10 minutes.


I was lucky the valves on the two knobs failed and fire came up the knobs shaft.

Not porn but sounds like it. LOL

Both my wife and I were in the kitchen and not wandering around the house waiting for the water to boil. Have down the multitasking so many times boiling water for pasta etc.  Or making a large pot of soup.  Or corn beef  and cabbage.

[Vlad2Vlad]

My S3 from OneMiner.com also runs a little low, so its not just you.  I have never seen 440+ on it.  Usually averages around 425ish or so.

That sounds about right!

[jimlite]

A lot of new and interesting things are happening at GAW / ZEN now.
I am waiting to hear about upgrades and the new most profitable
guaranteed pool of their own making.

[philipma1957]

A lot of new and interesting things are happening at GAW / ZEN now.
I am waiting to hear about upgrades and the new most profitable
guaranteed pool of their own making.

have to say they are really pulling out lots of promos.

[iluvbitcoins]

So this is the first day my miners mined a full day

my earnings

s3 --> 0.01354074 BTC

s3 --> 0.01294365 BTC

fury --> 0.00045513 BTC

altough the one s3 is mining lower then it promised, things are going even better then expected

[philipma1957]

So this is the first day my miners mined a full day

my earnings

s3 --> 0.01354074 BTC

s3 --> 0.01294365 BTC

fury --> 0.00045513 BTC

altough the one s3 is mining lower then it promised, things are going even better then expected

good I posted my earnings for the last 2 days.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=698679.msg7923839#msg7923839

so far I am hanging in there.  about 1500 usd in and about 400 usd back. The s-3's should do well.


  did you secure your withdrawal yet?  they have an option now that allows for a cell phone to be texted with a code in order to make a withdrawal.

[crashoveride54902]

So this is the first day my miners mined a full day

my earnings

s3 --> 0.01354074 BTC

s3 --> 0.01294365 BTC

fury --> 0.00045513 BTC

altough the one s3 is mining lower then it promised, things are going even better then expected

good I posted my earnings for the last 2 days.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=698679.msg7923839#msg7923839

so far I am hanging in there.  about 1500 usd in and about 400 usd back. The s-3's should do well.


  did you secure your withdrawal yet?  they have an option now that allows for a cell phone to be texted with a code in order to make a withdrawal.

i did what are the zen points for? EDIT: https://hashtalk.org/t/introducing-zenpoints/4490 they want you to keep your btc in your account to get zp pnts...hmmm...i don't see the point in that...and what are you able to spend the pnts on?

also this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=730796.msg8258945#msg8258945 for updates

[philipma1957]

So this is the first day my miners mined a full day

my earnings

s3 --> 0.01354074 BTC

s3 --> 0.01294365 BTC

fury --> 0.00045513 BTC

altough the one s3 is mining lower then it promised, things are going even better then expected

good I posted my earnings for the last 2 days.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=698679.msg7923839#msg7923839

so far I am hanging in there.  about 1500 usd in and about 400 usd back. The s-3's should do well.


  did you secure your withdrawal yet?  they have an option now that allows for a cell phone to be texted with a code in order to make a withdrawal.

i did what are the zen points for? EDIT: https://hashtalk.org/t/introducing-zenpoints/4490 they want you to keep your btc in your account to get zp pnts...hmmm...i don't see the point in that...and what are you able to spend the pnts on?

also this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=730796.msg8258945#msg8258945 for updates

Right now I am waiting and watching.

I am almost at 5th  with 8 s-3s and 1 dragon

I am at 88mh with 11 gridseed blades and my zen scrypt miners.
time to mine for about a week no purchases for now.


And they listed gridseed blades for 99 bucks a piece on oneminer.com and I cracked grabbed 4 of them.

will post 2 days earnings sometime tonight.

[judypug1956]

will you leave your btc in the zen cloud account to earn zen points?

seems like a good deal.

[philipma1957]

will you leave your btc in the zen cloud account to earn zen points?

seems like a good deal.

No I am afraid of a hack.  when my money stays in the zen cloud earnings account it is subject to theft.  I had .39 btc stolen from me last year BIPS grabbed it when it was worth 1100 usd a coin.

the zen points earned are only  5 ot 6 percent not worth it to me.

[Marvell1]

Thanks a lot for this thread

I was worried about buying any new scrypt machines myself I put all my GPU's on sale 18 r9 290s on ebay cheap prices so I plan to pull in about 4k and use that to puchase 3 hosted ZeusMiner lighting x-6s that would cost me around 2400 after tax. and give me a hash rate of 120MHZ or so.  Hosting would be $2.40x3  a bit  less than the 13 cents i pay out here.

with the rest of my cash I might buy an s3 or two like you did to balance out my earnings depending on what next weeks diff increas looks like.

Edit : I looked at the batch 2 updated prices and power consumption of the Vaultbreakers and its not even close.  375MH for 1000 Watts is insane asuming they deliver.

Any thoughts ?

[philipma1957]

Thanks a lot for this thread

I was worried about buying any new scrypt machines myself I put all my GPU's on sale 18 r9 290s on ebay cheap prices so I plan to pull in about 4k and use that to puchase 3 hosted ZeusMiner lighting x-6s that would cost me around 2400 after tax. and give me a hash rate of 120MHZ or so.  Hosting would be $2.40x3  a bit  less than the 13 cents i pay out here.

with the rest of my cash I might buy an s3 or two like you did to balance out my earnings depending on what next weeks diff increas looks like.

Edit : I looked at the batch 2 updated prices and power consumption of the Vaultbreakers and its not even close.  375MH for 1000 Watts is insane asuming they deliver.

Any thoughts ?

you are welcome. 

 the vaultbreaker is nuts if it works.   

I am a bit afraid to buy much right now. The scrpyt world is due for major changes.

now the zeus was no where near the predicted power numbers it gave.
the sp30 was no where near what is said it would be.


my guess is the VB does 300mh at 1500 watts

but my  11 gridseed blades  do 55mh at 900 watts

so the vb  will do 5-7x the hash at 1.5 times the power

makes me think alt coins are going all over the place in the next 60-90 days.

[kcheel]

will you leave your btc in the zen cloud account to earn zen points?

seems like a good deal.

No I am afraid of a hack.  when my money stays in the zen cloud earnings account it is subject to theft.  I had .39 btc stolen from me last year BIPS grabbed it when it was worth 1100 usd a coin.

the zen points earned are only  5 ot 6 percent not worth it to me.

Zen points actually work out to 11% APR now.

[philipma1957]

will you leave your btc in the zen cloud account to earn zen points?

seems like a good deal.

No I am afraid of a hack.  when my money stays in the zen cloud earnings account it is subject to theft.  I had .39 btc stolen from me last year BIPS grabbed it when it was worth 1100 usd a coin.

the zen points earned are only  5 ot 6 percent not worth it to me.

Zen points actually work out to 11% APR now.

well it could be worth the risk of a hack maybe 11% is high enough. unlike my miners on zen which are cc purchased and have cc rights in case of a disaster .  letting them hold my coin make me completely  open to a major hack.

I am earning .04 btc a day  so in 10 days I have .4btc at risk.   I will have to think about what I want to do.
For now I will try earning back some coin. and not spending coin.

[judypug1956]

Phil What do you think about the price drop of LTC?

[philipma1957]

Phil What do you think about the price drop of LTC?

I have decided to buy into LTC.  I have taken my last 3 zen payouts and each time I got one I purchased ltc with it.

Basically if LTC crashes It is a good chance to get some coins cheaply.

my last 3 payouts were

.03940361 btc
.04620274
.03956964

all converted to ltc.

[Honeycutt22]

Phil What do you think about the price drop of LTC?

I have decided to buy into LTC.  I have taken my last 3 zen payouts and each time I got one I purchased ltc with it.

Basically if LTC crashes It is a good chance to get some coins cheaply.

my last 3 payouts were

.03940361 btc
.04620274
.03956964

all converted to ltc.

Didn't the price of LTC already kinda crash? I've just been reading forums, haven't actually followed the stats...

[philipma1957]

Phil What do you think about the price drop of LTC?

I have decided to buy into LTC.  I have taken my last 3 zen payouts and each time I got one I purchased ltc with it.

Basically if LTC crashes It is a good chance to get some coins cheaply.

my last 3 payouts were

.03940361 btc
.04620274
.03956964

all converted to ltc.

Didn't the price of LTC already kinda crash? I've just been reading forums, haven't actually followed the stats...

crash is relative.  yes  it had a huge drop or crash.  it is now undergoing a second crash.

under 5 bucks

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btce/ltcusd

if there is no bottom and it goes to 2 or 3 dollars scrypt coins could die off

I have a lot of btc gear ,but this low price for ltc  means death of scrypt or a big chance to make money.

So for me to keep ltc just makes sense.

[Honeycutt22]

Phil What do you think about the price drop of LTC?

I have decided to buy into LTC.  I have taken my last 3 zen payouts and each time I got one I purchased ltc with it.

Basically if LTC crashes It is a good chance to get some coins cheaply.

my last 3 payouts were

.03940361 btc
.04620274
.03956964

all converted to ltc.

Didn't the price of LTC already kinda crash? I've just been reading forums, haven't actually followed the stats...

crash is relative.  yes  it had a huge drop or crash.  it is now undergoing a second crash.

under 5 bucks

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btce/ltcusd

if there is no bottom and it goes to 2 or 3 dollars scrypt coins could die off

I have a lot of btc gear ,but this low price for ltc  means death of scrypt or a big chance to make money.

So for me to keep ltc just makes sense.

Nice graph... From looking at it people don't consider it a good time to buy right now. There are no major purchases and still a lot of sales.. I think... the red line indicates sales? green is purchases, right?

If that's the case looks like people have either given up or are waiting for further devaluation.

Also - The graph has a unique recurring theme... LTC gradually declines, then spikes and repeats the cycle... But, each time the decline is greater than the one before and the spike is less than the previous.

[philipma1957]

Phil What do you think about the price drop of LTC?

I have decided to buy into LTC.  I have taken my last 3 zen payouts and each time I got one I purchased ltc with it.

Basically if LTC crashes It is a good chance to get some coins cheaply.

my last 3 payouts were

.03940361 btc
.04620274
.03956964

all converted to ltc.

Didn't the price of LTC already kinda crash? I've just been reading forums, haven't actually followed the stats...

crash is relative.  yes  it had a huge drop or crash.  it is now undergoing a second crash.

under 5 bucks

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btce/ltcusd

if there is no bottom and it goes to 2 or 3 dollars scrypt coins could die off

I have a lot of btc gear ,but this low price for ltc  means death of scrypt or a big chance to make money.

So for me to keep ltc just makes sense.

Nice graph... From looking at it people don't consider it a good time to buy right now. There are no major purchases and still a lot of sales.. I think... the red line indicates sales? green is purchases, right?

If that's the case looks like people have either given up or are waiting for further devaluation.

Also - The graph has a unique recurring theme... LTC gradually declines, then spikes and repeats the cycle... But, each time the decline is greater than the one before and the spike is less than the previous.

Yeah I have to look at it like this.  If it crashes and never comes back I am out 2-3k in gear.  So if I buy 100 ltc at 5 usd and it comes back to  15 or 16 usd I did okay.

  If it crashes more  I lose say 3500  vs 3000.

[Marvell1]

I pulled the trigger on the current oneminer deal for the $699 Zeusminer x-6 lighting

i might buy another today if my GPUs sell today on ebay.

[philipma1957]

The hardware won't go to waste, there will always be coins to mine you'll just have to adapt.
Right now LTC is just one of many altcoins and doesn't draw as much attention as it used to.

yeah you could be correct.

[iluvbitcoins]

do you think scrypt miners could be more profitable then sha256 because there will be more profitable scrypt coins popping out?

[philipma1957]

do you think scrypt miners could be more profitable then sha256 because there will be more profitable scrypt coins popping out?

Not enough to buy more scrypt miners.  I am holding on to the 70mh in gridseeds and 32 mh on zen cloud  .  Hoping for a shift in my favor of some kind.

[chaos31]

Hi,

thank you for the thread. It helped a lot to make a informed decision.
I invested some money in two miners s3 and zeusx6 hosted at zencloud.


What would be the best strategy nowadays? If i see it correct its better to buy another scrypt miner
and collect btc until they hit 2k$ or more per coin 

Mining btc and selling seems to be not profitable anymore. Investing into scrypt seems to be better imho?

Dont know if i should add another zeusx6 or s3 in the near future...

Mike

[philipma1957]

Right now my strategy is don't panic about the current price drops.

 I also purchased some coins. Will monitor market closely. Only buy really good deals.

[chaos31]

Right now my strategy is don't panic about the current price drops.

 I also purchased some coins. Will monitor market closely. Only buy really good deals.

Thanks for answer. Bitcoins are limited so i hope we see increasing value in the future. Thats what i am speculating on.
I would buy a second scrypt miner because i think that with the increasing difficulty its better to pump and dump new coins
with those multipools. Or did i miss something here?

right now
x6 - 0.01523410
s3 - 0.01136633

estimated on nicehash

[philipma1957]

Right now my strategy is don't panic about the current price drops.

 I also purchased some coins. Will monitor market closely. Only buy really good deals.

Thanks for answer. Bitcoins are limited so i hope we see increasing value in the future. Thats what i am speculating on.
I would buy a second scrypt miner because i think that with the increasing difficulty its better to pump and dump new coins
with those multipools. Or did i miss something here?

right now
x6 - 0.01523410
s3 - 0.01136633

estimated on nicehash

the x6 cost is 499    after 30 days $1.10 a day fee
the s2  cost is 499   after 30 days $ .90  a day fee

so in  1 months time  you will pay 20 cents a day more with the x6.

most likely the x6 is better.

[Marvell1]

Right now my strategy is don't panic about the current price drops.

 I also purchased some coins. Will monitor market closely. Only buy really good deals.

Thanks for answer. Bitcoins are limited so i hope we see increasing value in the future. Thats what i am speculating on.
I would buy a second scrypt miner because i think that with the increasing difficulty its better to pump and dump new coins
with those multipools. Or did i miss something here?

right now
x6 - 0.01523410
s3 - 0.01136633

estimated on nicehash

the x6 cost is 499    after 30 days $1.10 a day fee
the s2  cost is 499   after 30 days $ .90  a day fee

so in  1 months time  you will pay 20 cents a day more with the x6.

most likely the x6 is better.

the x6 costs 799 actually and is at 2.40 a day

[chaos31]

yes i bought it via oneminer deal for 699$ but imho the return is more stable next months than any bt miner.
I will add another x6 if i can get a good deal. There is no reason to buy any bt miner if i look at the calculation programs.

[philipma1957]

sorry i looked at wrong x6

. i purchased 2 black widows for 275


i will see how they do

coupon is latewidow 100 off

[Marvell1]

yes i bought it via oneminer deal for 699$ but imho the return is more stable next months than any bt miner.
I will add another x6 if i can get a good deal. There is no reason to buy any bt miner if i look at the calculation programs.

I bought that 699 deal too I might buy another I get paid tomrow if the deal is still out there

I think that's nice deal and it could ROI In 2 months as long as Titan is delayed as I expect it will be

seems like they have a new deal a war machine 54 MHz for 599 not sure if that's a good deal since it costs 4.41 to host

[chaos31]

sorry i looked at wrong x6

. i purchased 2 black widows for 275


i will see how they do

coupon is latewidow 100 off

thank you. will take a look at 

[albertinni]

yes i bought it via oneminer deal for 699$ but imho the return is more stable next months than any bt miner.
I will add another x6 if i can get a good deal. There is no reason to buy any bt miner if i look at the calculation programs.

I bought that 699 deal too I might buy another I get paid tomrow if the deal is still out there

I think that's nice deal and it could ROI In 2 months as long as Titan is delayed as I expect it will be

seems like they have a new deal a war machine 54 MHz for 599 not sure if that's a good deal since it costs 4.41 to host

can be known host costs before buying?

[chaos31]

I bought that 699 deal too I might buy another I get paid tomrow if the deal is still out there

I think that's nice deal and it could ROI In 2 months as long as Titan is delayed as I expect it will be

seems like they have a new deal a war machine 54 MHz for 599 not sure if that's a good deal since it costs 4.41 to host

latewidow deal expired....

4.41/day is too high for 54mhz...you can better buy another x6 42mhz if there is a new deal.

[philipma1957]

I bought that 699 deal too I might buy another I get paid tomrow if the deal is still out there

I think that's nice deal and it could ROI In 2 months as long as Titan is delayed as I expect it will be

seems like they have a new deal a war machine 54 MHz for 599 not sure if that's a good deal since it costs 4.41 to host

latewidow deal expired....

4.41/day is too high for 54mhz...you can better buy another x6 42mhz if there is a new deal.

yeah he is in and out with deals lately.  blink your eyes and they are gone.

right now the zen web site is down.  as is the talk site.

[bitgeek]

I bought that 699 deal too I might buy another I get paid tomrow if the deal is still out there

I think that's nice deal and it could ROI In 2 months as long as Titan is delayed as I expect it will be

seems like they have a new deal a war machine 54 MHz for 599 not sure if that's a good deal since it costs 4.41 to host

latewidow deal expired....

4.41/day is too high for 54mhz...you can better buy another x6 42mhz if there is a new deal.

yeah he is in and out with deals lately.  blink your eyes and they are gone.

right now the zen web site is down.  as is the talk site.

Some guys are buying out the offers as they come up. Discount hunters
The site is working fine now.

[Marvell1]

I bought that 699 deal too I might buy another I get paid tomrow if the deal is still out there

I think that's nice deal and it could ROI In 2 months as long as Titan is delayed as I expect it will be

seems like they have a new deal a war machine 54 MHz for 599 not sure if that's a good deal since it costs 4.41 to host

latewidow deal expired....

4.41/day is too high for 54mhz...you can better buy another x6 42mhz if there is a new deal.

The war machine box pulls 1800watt vs,the 1000watt of the x6 thus the higher cost, but you pay $100 less for the war machine.  On conwarz its pretty much close to a wash on profitability so I think either machine is fine

[chaos31]

was checking the miners in gawminer shop and did some calculating. decided to buy a second x6 40mh for 799.
after adding to cart it showed 699 instead!  DEAL!! 
Up and running after 5 minutes..... 

[VCollective]

Got 7 war machines currently, and 2 smaller blizzard x6 2, that I used for proof of concept. Ill post some results in a couple of days.

[Marvell1]

Got 7 war machines currently, and 2 smaller blizzard x6 2, that I used for proof of concept. Ill post some results in a couple of days.

jesus 7 war machines ? I purchased an X6 42MHZ and one war machine once I got paid today for $599.

both from oneminer deals , the X6 activated but I am still waiting on the activation code for the war machine.

When did you buy your 7 war machines ?  and how much for each.

[VCollective]

Got 7 war machines currently, and 2 smaller blizzard x6 2, that I used for proof of concept. Ill post some results in a couple of days.

jesus 7 war machines ? I purchased an X6 42MHZ and one war machine once I got paid today for $599.

both from oneminer deals , the X6 activated but I am still waiting on the activation code for the war machine.

When did you buy your 7 war machines ?  and how much for each.

Yeah i missed the deadline for the 599 deal. But got them for 719 each. they activated pretty much in 10-15 minutes.

[philipma1957]

I did a full updates for money earned

[chaos31]

I did a full updates for money earned

new hashlet update? still waiting to get my hands on it today. 

[philipma1957]

I did a full updates for money earned

new hashlet update? still waiting to get my hands on it today.  

can't buy it yet.  do not know the price.

Also  I have

1)Fury_________________> 1.2Mh
2)gridseed blade_________> 5.2Mh
3)Black Widow   # 1______> 12.2Mh
4)Black Widow   # 2______> 12.7Mh
5)Falcon _______________> 26.2Mh

Total -----------------------------58.3Mh

1)S-3   # 1________________>453.6Gh
2)S-3   # 2________________>458.6Gh

total----------------------------------914.7Gh

totals are off due to rounding.

I do not know what I can do with the above gear   or if I want to do anything with it.


I had some points cashed them in and purchased 3 units of hashlets.  It was 48 I had 35 so I spent 13 bucks for 3Mh of hash power.

now for example scrypt.cc charges .0001073 btc  for 1 khs or   .10730 btc for 1 mh  that is 50usd an mh  with zero cc protection vs  15.99 and mh with cc

protection.  not to say it will make money but 1/3 the price and cc protection make it an easy choice. 

I await my activation codes for this.

[chaos31]

I do not know what I can do with the above gear   or if I want to do anything with it.


I had some points cashed them in and purchased 3 units of hashlets.  It was 48 I had 35 so I spent 13 bucks for 3Mh of hash power.

now for example scrypt.cc charges .0001073 btc  for 1 khs or   .10730 btc for 1 mh  that is 50usd an mh  with zero cc protection vs  15.99 and mh with cc

protection.  not to say it will make money but 1/3 the price and cc protection make it an easy choice.  

I await my activation codes for this.

haha i am waiting also. bought one 100mhz hashlet via cc short time before we took the whole shoppify system down.
look here: http://status.shopify.com/

so activation code will took some while imho.

btw i had email contact to carlos some minutes ago and the upgrade options will be available later next week.
so we can sell in or switch to hashlet with our "old" gear  
still no activation key..... :-)

[philipma1957]

after reading some of this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=537912.720

and with their new bold claims...just doesn't look all that promising

well i am not so sure I will make much money  or lose much either.   I will take it day by day for now.

[judypug1956]

This will be locked and a new cleaner thread started.

[philipma1957]

This will be locked and a new cleaner thread started.

I am going to lock this and move to a new thread.



new link


 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=743152.0


I am happy to say this was a self mod thread.  never had to be moderated .  so new thread will not have moderation.