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July 17, 2014, 04:04:56 PM
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A report from Interfax, a Russian non-governmental news agency, states that a Boeing 777 Malaysian airlines plane crashed near the Russian border in Ukraine.

The plane was found “burning on the ground,” according to the report.

Interfax cites a source stating that there were 280 passengers and 15 crew members on board the plane.

According to another Interfax article, Anton Gerashchenko, the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, confirmed that the plane crashed in the Donetsk region.
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/805022-malaysian-airlines-crash-boeing-777-crashed-in-ukraine-near-russian-border-interfax/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhUkqs9CQ0w

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July 17, 2014, 04:08:52 PM
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What was a passenger plane doing anywhere near the war zone ?

And I highly doubt it crashed, some Asshole with a surface to air missile probably thought it would be funny to shoot down a civilian aircraft. ...



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July 17, 2014, 04:13:59 PM
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Ukrainian army has confirmed that russian terrorists used russian anti-aircraft system but failed, there was an ukrainian military plane flying near the malaysian one. Simple mistake, great anti-aircraft btw.


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July 17, 2014, 04:14:11 PM
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And I highly doubt it crashed, some Asshole with a surface to air missile probably thought it would be funny to shoot down a civilian aircraft. ...

No. Boeing 777 flying at 10,200 metres (35,000 feet) can't be shot down with MANPADS such as Igla or Strela. It requires either sophisticated SAM batteries or air-to-air missiles fired from fighter jets.
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July 17, 2014, 04:15:44 PM
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Ukrainian army has confirmed that russian terrorists used russian anti-aircraft system but failed, there was an ukrainian military plane flying near the malaysian one. Simple mistake, great anti-aircraft btw.


What a bullshit? Pro-russian terrorists has gotten russian anti-aircraft system(a lot of proofs), as i said before they just failed, they wanted to shoot down ukrainian plane of military which was flying near that region... This is what happens when monkeys get modern weapon.


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July 17, 2014, 04:18:39 PM
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Ukrainian army has confirmed that russian terrorists used russian anti-aircraft system but failed, there was an ukrainian military plane flying near the malaysian one. Simple mistake, great anti-aircraft btw.


What a bullshit? Pro-russian terrorists has gotten russian anti-aircraft system(a lot of proofs), as i said before they just failed, they wanted to shoot down ukrainian plane of military which was flying near that region... This is what happens when monkeys get modern weapon.


You actually think Russia is behind this? Why would Putin purposely do something to hurt the appearances of the rebels? It's more likely that the Ukrainians shot it down to blame Russia.
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July 17, 2014, 04:24:30 PM
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And I highly doubt it crashed, some Asshole with a surface to air missile probably thought it would be funny to shoot down a civilian aircraft. ...

No. Boeing 777 flying at 10,200 metres (35,000 feet) can't be shot down with MANPADS such as Igla or Strela. It requires either sophisticated SAM batteries or air-to-air missiles fired from fighter jets.
Russian fighter jets have been shooting down Ukrainean planes in that region... Maybe the same russian flying dip-shits got confused and shot down a plane from the wrong nation.

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July 17, 2014, 04:41:36 PM
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http://avherald.com/h?article=47770f9d&opt=0

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A Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200, registration 9M-MRD performing flight MH-17 from Amsterdam (Netherlands) to Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia) with 280 passengers and 15 crew, was enroute at FL330 about 50nm northwest of Donetsk (Ukraine) when the transponder signal was lost at FL330 at position N48.56 E37.21 at 13:43Z. The aircraft came down near the village of Shakhtarsk (Ukraine) about 56nm from the last transponder position.

Interfax reports citing an industry source that a Malaysia Boeing 777 from Amsterdam to Malaysia has crashed near the Ukrainian/Russian border, the burning wreckage has been located. The aircraft has been shot down, the agency subsequently added.

Malaysia Airlines have confirmed an incident, the aircraft did not enter Russian Airspace so far, about two hours after the estimated entry into the airspace. At 15:40Z Malaysia Airlines tweeted: "Malaysia Airlines has lost contact of MH17 from Amsterdam. The last known position was over Ukrainian airspace. More details to follow."

Ukraine's Ministry of Interior have confirmed the Boeing has crashed, there were no survivors.

The Ukraine have closed the airspace around Donetsk about 90 minutes after the aircraft disappeared.

Ground observer reporting seeing something hit the aircraft and aircraft coming down (Video: Secretariat for HQ of National Resistance of Ukraine):

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July 17, 2014, 04:45:43 PM
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https://twitter.com/flightradar24/statuses/489809550993002496

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July 17, 2014, 04:55:41 PM
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It will be interesting to see from which side the missile came from. This is just my opinion. Only my opinion. I think pro-Russian separatists in Ukraine did it. But where would they get Buk surface-to-air missile systems?

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July 17, 2014, 04:58:44 PM
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Ukrainian army has confirmed that russian terrorists used russian anti-aircraft system but failed, there was an ukrainian military plane flying near the malaysian one. Simple mistake, great anti-aircraft btw.



The Ukraine army confirmed this.....................................  tsk tsk tsk.
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July 17, 2014, 05:05:40 PM
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This will be the heck of a mess to sort out!
First of my condolences to the victims and their families.  Sad

For economical and political consequences;
The first issue will be Schipol Airport, it will have a hard time to recover customers to Asia. Most of the passengers will prefer to be re-routed by South, which may cost NL a lot.
The RU-EU relations aren't already that good, if it comes to be shot by Russian SAMs it can be the last drop to put up the Iron Curtain back in place.

Just wonder who was the jackboot that sent that commercial plane down!...

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July 17, 2014, 05:07:12 PM
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It will be interesting to see from which side the missile came from. This is just my opinion. Only my opinion. I think pro-Russian separatists in Ukraine did it. But where would they get Buk surface-to-air missile systems?
CNN said that a Ukrainian official stated that the plane came apart at altitude, which gives more evidence to the theory that the plane was shot down.

According to CNN: Adviser to Ukraine's Internal Affairs Minister: Plane was shot down by Russian Anti-Aircraft Missiles
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/17/world/europe/ukraine-malaysia-airlines-crash/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

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July 17, 2014, 05:15:45 PM
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This will be the heck of a mess to sort out!
First of my condolences to the victims and their families.  Sad

For economical and political consequences;
The first issue will be Schipol Airport, it will have a hard time to recover customers to Asia. Most of the passengers will prefer to be re-routed by South, which may cost NL a lot.
The RU-EU relations aren't already that good, if it comes to be shot by Russian SAMs it can be the last drop to put up the Iron Curtain back in place.

Just wonder who was the jackboot that sent that commercial plane down!...
Russia,
I'm going to sit on the fence with this one and wait for an investigation. Incidents like this in a war zone tend to be PR cannon fodder that everyone tries to capitalize on immediately without solid evidence which creates a lot of rumors and bad intel. there are reports that the AFP have seen such missiles in rebels control previously, but is that a rumor spawned by this incident or reliable? Who knows. Certainly not me.

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July 17, 2014, 05:19:12 PM
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WARNING! Shocking images of the victims:

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July 17, 2014, 05:24:12 PM
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This will be the heck of a mess to sort out!
First of my condolences to the victims and their families.  Sad

For economical and political consequences;
The first issue will be Schipol Airport, it will have a hard time to recover customers to Asia. Most of the passengers will prefer to be re-routed by South, which may cost NL a lot.
The RU-EU relations aren't already that good, if it comes to be shot by Russian SAMs it can be the last drop to put up the Iron Curtain back in place.

Just wonder who was the jackboot that sent that commercial plane down!...
Russia,
I'm going to sit on the fence with this one and wait for an investigation. Incidents like this in a war zone tend to be PR cannon fodder that everyone tries to capitalize on immediately without solid evidence which creates a lot of rumors and bad intel. there are reports that the AFP have seen such missiles in rebels control previously, but is that a rumor spawned by this incident or reliable? Who knows. Certainly not me.
If Ukraine operates these weapons systems as well, could the pro-Russian separatists have stolen one of them and used it?

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July 17, 2014, 05:24:29 PM
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Russian fighter jets have been shooting down Ukrainean planes in that region... Maybe the same russian flying dip-shits got confused and shot down a plane from the wrong nation.

Do you have any proof for this BS? So far the Russian fighter jets have never crossed Ukrainian airspace. The only incident of Russians shooting down Ukrainian fighter jet occurred after the Ukrainians crossed Russian airspace without warning.
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July 17, 2014, 05:27:41 PM
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WARNING! Shocking images of the victims:

http://www.gamelas.pt/outros/MH17.jpg

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Who ever did this,russians\ucranians ...this is humanity crime...just looking at that picture i don't want to think how this situation will end...but whoever did this must pay!

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Most of those died were Dutch nationals, while the crew were Malaysian. Most of the passengers were tourists, who were going to Southern Thailand and Malaysia. Not a single survivor reported from the crash site. (Source: Lifenews).
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July 17, 2014, 05:30:33 PM
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So a Malaysian Airlines flight MH17, Boeing 777 gets shot down on the 17.7 and then you have this wicked speech from earlier of the year from Christine Lagarde, managing director of IMF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYmViPTndxw
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