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December 02, 2015, 11:56:54 AM
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Hi, I've found this pool to be a great pool. The LTC connection was great with a very low reject rate. The BTC connection I found had a higher reject rate and sometimes the connection would have temporary problems (disconnects and lost share responses) but this has improved.
As a low hash rate miner in Europe I suppose I should keep my BTC connection against the main Chinese servers.
I stopped using the LTC connection, because as a low hash rate miner I found myself getting a lot of low value daily DOGE payouts. With the current 1 DOGE per kB fee, these payouts would prove very expensive to use. Perhaps there should be a minimum for the merged coins aswell?
As regards to not many people adding VIA payout addresses, are users alerted when a new coin is added?

Scaling and transaction rate: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6306#msg6306
Do not allow demand to exceed capacity. Do not allow mempools to forget transactions. Relay all transactions. Eventually confirm all transactions.
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December 02, 2015, 12:57:18 PM
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Hi, I've found this pool to be a great pool. The LTC connection was great with a very low reject rate. The BTC connection I found had a higher reject rate and sometimes the connection would have temporary problems (disconnects and lost share responses) but this has improved.
As a low hash rate miner in Europe I suppose I should keep my BTC connection against the main Chinese servers.
I stopped using the LTC connection, because as a low hash rate miner I found myself getting a lot of low value daily DOGE payouts. With the current 1 DOGE per kB fee, these payouts would prove very expensive to use. Perhaps there should be a minimum for the merged coins aswell?
As regards to not many people adding VIA payout addresses, are users alerted when a new coin is added?

DOGE network is not very busy. You don't have to pay the fee your tx will get confirmed anyway. Add line "break;" just before line "CAmount nFeeNeeded = GetMinimumFee(txNew, nBytes, nTxConfirmTarget, mempool);" in src/wallet/wallet.cpp

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December 03, 2015, 12:47:12 AM
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Under DDOS?  everything dropping to zero, but fine on my side. 

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December 03, 2015, 03:23:26 PM
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Under DDOS?  everything dropping to zero, but fine on my side. 

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December 05, 2015, 03:55:59 PM
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My posts will continue to be deleted but I must warn all of you mining at this pool what you are helping them accomplish.
They are threatening Denial of Service attacks on another pool. You should consider continuing to support F2pool any longer.
It is a disgrace.
See this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1274066.0

We are not threatening DoS on any pools. Just four long-live connections do not have any impact on their pool.

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December 05, 2015, 09:13:24 PM
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My posts will continue to be deleted but I must warn all of you mining at this pool what you are helping them accomplish.
They are threatening Denial of Service attacks on another pool. You should consider continuing to support F2pool any longer.
It is a disgrace.
See this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1274066.0

We are not threatening DoS on any pools. Just four long-live connections do not have any impact on their pool.

You specifically said that the next time your pool is DoS'd you'd redirect it at Kano's pool. The context was in revenge for Kano posting those four IP addresses.

You could turn all this negative press around by 1) focusing your technical attention on making your pool fast and scalable without relying on SPV mining tricks (which ck has proven is emanently doable), and 2) by being relentlessly professional in your communication with this forum (instead of being petty and infantile).

You currently enjoy tremendous marketing share. If you want to keep and grow that share, you will need to evolve.

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December 06, 2015, 09:56:25 AM
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My posts will continue to be deleted but I must warn all of you mining at this pool what you are helping them accomplish.
They are threatening Denial of Service attacks on another pool. You should consider continuing to support F2pool any longer.
It is a disgrace.
See this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1274066.0

We are not threatening DoS on any pools. Just four long-live connections do not have any impact on their pool.

You specifically said that the next time your pool is DoS'd you'd redirect it at Kano's pool. The context was in revenge for Kano posting those four IP addresses.

You could turn all this negative press around by 1) focusing your technical attention on making your pool fast and scalable without relying on SPV mining tricks (which ck has proven is emanently doable), and 2) by being relentlessly professional in your communication with this forum (instead of being petty and infantile).

You currently enjoy tremendous marketing share. If you want to keep and grow that share, you will need to evolve.

Thanks. We will always investigate for new technologies to make our pool fast and scalable. Mining on stratum headers is just one innovative contribution among many others from us. And we are happy to see this innovation has been adopted not only by us but also AntPool and BTCC. In fact our pool, despite recent huge user/hashrate growth, is a lot more effective than AntPool according to different benchmarks.

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December 06, 2015, 10:11:40 AM
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Mining on stratum headers is just one innovative contribution among many others from us. And we are happy to see this innovation has been adopted not only by us but also AntPool and BTCC.

"Innovative" is hardly the word for it.  Dangerous and stupid are far more accurate ways to describe it.  You've contributed absolutely nothing.

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December 07, 2015, 01:39:34 AM
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I will repeat my statement one more time: Our mining operation is innovative, only benefiting bitcoin, not harming it. We did not and will not DDoS anyone. And what I said earlier was that we HAVE TO redirect someone else’s attack, including those potential ones from Kano, to Kano’s pool IF that attack is a result of the provoked post of him. Because the attack is caused, directly or indirectly, by him.

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December 07, 2015, 02:46:45 AM
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Choosing to DDoS my pool for any reason is illegal in most countries ...
Redirecting a DDoS to my pool is no different to choosing to DDoS my pool.

Also, the fact that you pointed out, that your SPV 'dead pool miners' to my pool, were using important IP addresses for f2pool, was a really stupid thing for you to do ...

Personally I don't care what they are and what else you use them for, but you pointed those IP addresses, to mining at my mining pool with the same BTC address, belonging to f2pool ... ... ... ... yeah you didn't think that one out very well did you?

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December 07, 2015, 04:33:02 AM
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Fuck this pool and anyone who continues to mine here.
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December 07, 2015, 04:51:17 AM
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Thanks for finally adding a US server. My ping is only 45ms from the 250ms.


However the difficulty is 4.1k which is very high for an antminer s3. Anyway to lower it?

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December 07, 2015, 06:16:07 AM
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I think it is pretty ridiculous to say that SPV mining is in any way harmful to Bitcoin. When a pool SPV mines, they start work on a new block slightly faster then they otherwise would be able to do so. Even if a pool were to produce an "empty" block (eg one with only a coinbase transaction and does not confirm any additional transactions), then the previous transactions confirmed in previous blocks would be confirmed by one additional block (this is beneficial to those who need to wait "n" confirmations prior to having their transaction "credited", as well as those who say that you must always wait 6 confirmations prior to accepting a transaction), and decreases the chances that the block they are mining "on top of" gets orphaned (which benefits the pool/miner of the previous found block).

If anything, SPV mining opens up the miners who engage in this practice to additional risks, however f2pool is a PPS pool so the miners who are mining on f2pool are not bearing these risks, the operators of f2pool are. Based on this fact, if SPV mining was not net profitable then miners would not engage in this practice, period.

I personally don't think it is anyone's business to say what risks that f2pool can and cannot take with their own money. If they are doing something that you believe is risky, then you should/can warn them of these risks, however it is ultimately up to them to decide what risks to take with their own money/profits.

I would say that I have mined on f2pool in the past with the little amount of miners that I have owned in the past and that I would gladly trust f2pool with my mining power in the future (I do not currently own any miners, therefore I am not mining on any pool).
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December 07, 2015, 06:38:03 AM
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Thanks for finally adding a US server. My ping is only 45ms from the 250ms.


However the difficulty is 4.1k which is very high for an antminer s3. Anyway to lower it?

The diff will lower to 2048 after a minute or two if your miner is not submitting fast enough.

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December 07, 2015, 06:40:46 AM
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Thanks for finally adding a US server. My ping is only 45ms from the 250ms.


However the difficulty is 4.1k which is very high for an antminer s3. Anyway to lower it?

The diff will lower to 2048 after a minute or two if your miner is not submitting fast enough.

My 420Gh/s miner is still at 4.1K with the new US server.

The old default server was at 2K difficulty.

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December 07, 2015, 12:23:58 PM
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Thanks for finally adding a US server. My ping is only 45ms from the 250ms.


However the difficulty is 4.1k which is very high for an antminer s3. Anyway to lower it?

The diff will lower to 2048 after a minute or two if your miner is not submitting fast enough.

My 420Gh/s miner is still at 4.1K with the new US server.

The old default server was at 2K difficulty.

It does not affect your earnings. Only the hashrate chart may not be very good looking (higher variety).

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December 08, 2015, 07:26:54 PM
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So an attack is underway?

Must I stop mining here forever?

Or can people come to terms over S.P.V. ?


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December 09, 2015, 06:36:21 AM
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So an attack is underway?

Must I stop mining here forever?

Or can people come to terms over S.P.V. ?

was wondering the same? I use this as my main pool. Not sure how DDOS effects mining pool tbh.

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December 09, 2015, 06:10:14 PM
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So an attack is underway?

Must I stop mining here forever?

Or can people come to terms over S.P.V. ?

was wondering the same? I use this as my main pool. Not sure how DDOS effects mining pool tbh.

very frustrating as I want some of my hash in a pps pool.  There are almost no options other then this one. 

I hate to see the infighting between miners and pools so if S.P.V. mining is bad figure out a way to stop the fighting over it.

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December 09, 2015, 11:54:54 PM
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At what percentage of the hashrate will F2Pool stop accepting new users? 30% is already highly critical.

If you care even a little bit about bitcoin, you would stop mining here and at Antpool.
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