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Thousands march through French cities in protest of Israeli operation in Gaza Strip; French president says will not allow violence to spill over into France.REUTERS - Thousands of pro-Palestinian protesters marched in French cities on Saturday to condemn violence in Gaza, defying a ban imposed after demonstrators marched on two synagogues in Paris last weekend and clashed with riot police. French President Francois Hollande said he understood emotional responses to the killing of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip in a flare-up of hostilities with Israel but would not allow violence to spill over into France. "That's why I asked the interior minister, after an investigation, to ensure that such protests would not take place," he told journalists during a visit to Chad. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F2tlyv.jpg&t=665&c=fNsLpjgiawa6tg) More... http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.606036
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July 20, 2014, 05:52:34 AM |
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The longer the Israeli-Palestinian conflict goes on and the more casualties there are, the more pressure there will be on Israel I'm afraid (to say nothing of the further radicalization of the population in both countries). Hopefully the Israeli government/population will realize its reputation is rapidly worsening and that the occupation is unsustainable and move towards a peaceful resolution; wishful thinking, I know. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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July 20, 2014, 06:09:52 AM |
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France has sizeable Muslim population. Muslims would mostly support the Gazans.
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July 20, 2014, 06:43:57 AM |
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France has sizeable Muslim population. Muslims would mostly support the Gazans.
Yes. Around 15% of the population and growing. A result of the Socialist policies in the 1960s and the 1970s, which encouraged migration of cheap labor from the Maghreb and the Former French West Africa. The nation is getting increasingly polarized now, as evident from victory of the Front National in the 2014 Euro elections.
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July 20, 2014, 06:47:26 AM |
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France has sizeable Muslim population. Muslims would mostly support the Gazans.
That might very well be true, but these demonstrations have been going on a little all over: France, UK, Germany, Turkey, US, New Zealand, Norway, Argentina, Sweden and Australia, last I checked - I'm sure these aren't all just Muslims making up the demonstrators either.
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July 20, 2014, 06:57:42 AM |
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LOL uppity muslim.
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July 20, 2014, 11:50:42 AM |
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I know this is a weird comparison but this shit reminds me exactly of watching American Democrats and Republicans argue over something, basically, in their minds the opposite side is always in the wrong and they completely ignore anything bad that they themselves have done and then for the other side it's the total opposite. You have the Palestinians conveniently forgetting that they fire rockets and suicide bomb Israel on a regular basis and then Israel conveniently forgets that they constantly threaten invasion with tanks and take pot shots at Palestinian civilians for shits and giggles.
It would be almost comical if it weren't for the extreme arrogance surrounding other peoples' deaths, hell I bet even on this thread we're going to see the exact same bullshit too.
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July 20, 2014, 12:29:12 PM |
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France has sizeable Muslim population. Muslims would mostly support the Gazans.
Yes. Around 15% of the population and growing. A result of the Socialist policies in the 1960s and the 1970s, which encouraged migration of cheap labor from the Maghreb and the Former French West Africa. The nation is getting increasingly polarized now, as evident from victory of the Front National in the 2014 Euro elections. It's a great day ! First time you say socialism cause problems ! thanks ! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) And sorry but the front national is very socialist... And the guy they label as "pro-palestinian" are just some vandal wanting to break public and private property and hit some Jews... It's the first time this government try to respect the taxpayer money and protect us from leftism extremist so it's good. Would be fair to see the same violence on them than there was on right wing people...
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July 20, 2014, 12:31:37 PM |
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France has sizeable Muslim population. Muslims would mostly support the Gazans.
That might very well be true, but these demonstrations have been going on a little all over: France, UK, Germany, Turkey, US, New Zealand, Norway, Argentina, Sweden and Australia, last I checked - I'm sure these aren't all just Muslims making up the demonstrators either. You are right, muslims wouldn't support Israel. It's not likely Israelis would join in this demonstration ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) .
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u9y42
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July 20, 2014, 12:47:17 PM |
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France has sizeable Muslim population. Muslims would mostly support the Gazans.
That might very well be true, but these demonstrations have been going on a little all over: France, UK, Germany, Turkey, US, New Zealand, Norway, Argentina, Sweden and Australia, last I checked - I'm sure these aren't all just Muslims making up the demonstrators either. You are right, muslims wouldn't support Israel. It's not likely Israelis would join in this demonstration ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . Oh sorry, I completely missed it; yes, there were anti-war demonstrations even in Israel, which is a good sign: http://countercurrentnews.com/2014/07/pro-peace-protests-are-sweeping-israel-right-now-and-israeli-jdl-fascists-are-freaking-out/ - unfortunately, never very far from counter demonstrations, it seems.
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July 20, 2014, 03:05:22 PM |
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Irony how most of the protesters are Muslim. I still dont know why france didnt kick them out.
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July 20, 2014, 03:10:49 PM Last edit: July 20, 2014, 04:10:32 PM by hologram |
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Irony how most of the protesters are Muslim. I still dont know why france didnt kick them out.
They are French now, but we need to stop import new and take Europe people, Arab are a so big minority if we don't mix with other there will be huge problem here... I support immigration and have nothing against stranger, but i think import every time the same people will polarize too much our society. Arab bring middle east here as usual... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bgW8-0o6po#t=113
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July 20, 2014, 06:05:21 PM |
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France has sizeable Muslim population. Muslims would mostly support the Gazans.
That might very well be true, but these demonstrations have been going on a little all over: France, UK, Germany, Turkey, US, New Zealand, Norway, Argentina, Sweden and Australia, last I checked - I'm sure these aren't all just Muslims making up the demonstrators either. I think this shows that the Hammas strategy of using civilians as human shields has worked as there has been a lot of collateral damage in Palestine, but the reason for the collateral damage is because Hammas is putting it's weapons in places like hospitals and schools.
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July 24, 2014, 06:14:03 PM |
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That might very well be true, but these demonstrations have been going on a little all over: France, UK, Germany, Turkey, US, New Zealand, Norway, Argentina, Sweden and Australia, last I checked - I'm sure these aren't all just Muslims making up the demonstrators either.
I think this shows that the Hammas strategy of using civilians as human shields has worked as there has been a lot of collateral damage in Palestine, but the reason for the collateral damage is because Hammas is putting it's weapons in places like hospitals and schools. That's a fallacy - even if Hamas is doing so, what gives Israel the right to attack anyway? No, the reason for the incredible loss of life that has been going on there, on a daily basis, is that the people in Gaza are being slaughtered by Israel. Don't get me wrong, there is a lot wrong with Hamas, but no one is forcing Israel to attack Gaza - there are other ways to solve this conflict, like for example, Israel ending the 47 year old occupation and lifting the blockade on Gaza, that has left the people there on the verge of an humanitarian crisis (and purposefully so, as we've learned from leaked American-Israeli documents, and later officially admitted). And the line that Hamas is using civilians as human shields left and right just doesn't add up to the more than 700 people killed, 80% civilian casualties (before the ground invasion - it's anyone's guess how many it is now), the constant Israeli attacks on vital infrastructure each time it bombs Gaza, the missile attack on a busy intersection near the market, the attack on the beach cafe while people were watching the World Cup and the recent attack on the beach where the other kids were playing.
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July 24, 2014, 06:17:47 PM |
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Irony how most of the protesters are Muslim. I still dont know why france didnt kick them out.
muslim or not they are French and they have the right to voice their opinion, also during the desmonstration there people from every community including jews, but hey the propaganda is that only Muslim people that demonstrate against Israeli war crime ! keep going at it I think this shows that the Hammas strategy of using civilians as human shields has worked as there has been a lot of collateral damage in Palestine, but the reason for the collateral damage is because Hammas is putting it's weapons in places like hospitals and schools.
Human shields ? how about posting some picture and video of Hamas members using human shields and shooting at Israelies ? Let's see if you can post pictures like these : (by the eyes these are soldiers from the most noble army in the world according to some...) and these pictures are the safest I found there are some horrofiying picture that I will not post in respect to people reading this thread and forums rules http://crushzion.k0nsl.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/humanshield-jew.jpghttp://www.dci-pal.org/english/doc/press/sabri.jpghttp://crushzion.k0nsl.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/palestinian-boy-as-human-shield-by-jews.jpg
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July 24, 2014, 06:28:03 PM |
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I assume you are kidding, they was very few people from other community who are show to the media to prove there isn't just Arab. Also most people i know don't liked the street were busy cause of pro-palestinian protest.
We have a lot of problems in France, most people don't give a fuck about ME, except some Arab on welfare and communist.
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July 24, 2014, 07:22:30 PM |
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I assume you are kidding, they was very few people from other community who are show to the media to prove there isn't just Arab. Also most people i know don't liked the street were busy cause of pro-palestinian protest.
We have a lot of problems in France, most people don't give a fuck about ME, except some Arab on welfare and communist.
"arabs on welfare" if they are on warfare they French no matter what's their origin is. but it seems that you have a problem with the right of expression once opinion and the right of being different
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July 25, 2014, 01:30:43 AM |
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Aww cute, the French Muslims took time out from blowing up synagogues to have a protest!
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July 25, 2014, 02:21:23 AM |
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Aww cute, the French Muslims took time out from blowing up synagogues to have a protest!
The protest is a bit over. Why not peacefully express their condemnation. Their protests actually are causing another violence in France.
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July 25, 2014, 04:47:38 AM |
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Irony how most of the protesters are Muslim. I still dont know why france didnt kick them out.
And they are most likely on welfare and keep spreading like wildfire. In 10-20 years, that 15% going to become at least 40%.
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