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July 21, 2014, 07:45:17 AM
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Looking at the pools hashrate chart (https://blockchain.info/pools):


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1AcAj9p6zJn4xLXdvmdiuPCtY7YkBPTAJo 6%
1BX5YoLwvqzvVwSrdD4dC32vbouHQn2tuF 4%
Other Unknown 10%
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Total unknown hashrate 20%

More than 25 PH remains without been identify, a fifth of the total hashrate.


How we can identify pools?
Looking at the Coinbase or the reward bitcoin address and how the reward is distributed between miners.

Some websites that publish info about pools:
http://organofcorti.blogspot.com.es/
http://bitcoinchain.com/pools
http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/top.php


If you discover a new pool or entity mining you can post it here and commit here https://github.com/blockchain/Blockchain-Known-Pools to update the blockchain.info/pools website.  Wink
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July 21, 2014, 08:13:15 AM
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How we can identify pools?
Why should we do it?  Huh
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July 21, 2014, 08:22:35 AM
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1AcAj9p6zJn4xLXdvmdiuPCtY7YkBPTAJo looks like ghash address to me.  Often recieves payouts(change?) from ghash?


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July 23, 2014, 03:32:55 AM
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Here's my question are there any governments mining bitcoin?  That would be interesting to find out. Also how do you know that fifth of the hash rate is pools and not individual miners, or even BFL haha?
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July 24, 2014, 03:58:22 PM
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Looking at the pools hashrate chart (https://blockchain.info/pools):


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1AcAj9p6zJn4xLXdvmdiuPCtY7YkBPTAJo 6%
1BX5YoLwvqzvVwSrdD4dC32vbouHQn2tuF 4%
Other Unknown 10%
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Total unknown hashrate 20%

More than 25 PH remains without been identify, a fifth of the total hashrate.


How we can identify pools?
Looking at the Coinbase or the reward bitcoin address and how the reward is distributed between miners.

Some websites that publish info about pools:
http://organofcorti.blogspot.com.es/
http://bitcoinchain.com/pools
http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/top.php


If you discover a new pool or entity mining you can post it here and commit here https://github.com/blockchain/Blockchain-Known-Pools to update the blockchain.info/pools website.  Wink

You really don't know whose hashrate that ist? It's easy: GHash.IO and/or CEX.io!  Smiley
Why do you think their percentage of the network went down? Miners leaving? Nah! I believe they just relocated that hashrate to another address!

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July 24, 2014, 09:02:58 PM
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Looking at the pools hashrate chart (https://blockchain.info/pools):


Code:
1AcAj9p6zJn4xLXdvmdiuPCtY7YkBPTAJo 6%
1BX5YoLwvqzvVwSrdD4dC32vbouHQn2tuF 4%
Other Unknown 10%
-------------------------------------------
Total unknown hashrate 20%

More than 25 PH remains without been identify, a fifth of the total hashrate.


How we can identify pools?
Looking at the Coinbase or the reward bitcoin address and how the reward is distributed between miners.

Some websites that publish info about pools:
http://organofcorti.blogspot.com.es/
http://bitcoinchain.com/pools
http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/top.php


If you discover a new pool or entity mining you can post it here and commit here https://github.com/blockchain/Blockchain-Known-Pools to update the blockchain.info/pools website.  Wink

You really don't know whose hashrate that ist? It's easy: GHash.IO and/or CEX.io!  Smiley
Why do you think their percentage of the network went down? Miners leaving? Nah! I believe they just relocated that hashrate to another address!

Well that would be something.  It would be trying to get around everyone being worried that their hashrate was too high.  Couldn't any entity do that if the "public" got worried their hash rate was too high? 

Do we have any other explanation why Ghash/CEX hash rate went down?  Are miners actually leaving them?
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July 24, 2014, 10:46:46 PM
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You really don't know whose hashrate that ist? It's easy: GHash.IO and/or CEX.io!  Smiley
Why do you think their percentage of the network went down? Miners leaving? Nah! I believe they just relocated that hashrate to another address!
Hell, I think they've been obfuscating their blocks since the beginning of this year if not earlier. It wouldn't take a genius to figure out the mass panic that would ensue if that "magical" 51% barrier is passed... Since ghash.io is making so much easy money off of their own ASICs as well as renting out all the mining power they can to suckers (even more profitable!) they wouldn't have much incentive to mess with the network, I'd think.  Much better to just hide some blocks.

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July 29, 2014, 04:41:01 PM
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1AcAj9p6zJn4xLXdvmdiuPCtY7YkBPTAJo looks like ghash address to me.  Often recieves payouts(change?) from ghash?

1AcAj9p6zJn4xLXdvmdiuPCtY7YkBPTAJo

Here it is receiving money from a ghash address yesterday:
https://blockchain.info/tx/b10d0948b15af87df010d9cb6513400c90366a1e507ddc4286506ce32926a790

I think it's a LARGE miner that sometimes mines with ghash sometimes somewhere else.  It could however be ghash/cex owned and they are using it to manage their apparent share of the hash power.

1BX5YoLwvqzvVwSrdD4dC32vbouHQn2tuF seemed to have started mining for p2pool. But now still mines and seems to be paying out shares.  I.e. it appears to operate some pooling.

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July 30, 2014, 11:25:02 PM
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Why are you assuming these are pools with the unknown hash? More likely these are private large-scale solo mining operations. And they will want to remain private.
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July 31, 2014, 11:37:42 AM
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Why are you assuming these are pools with the unknown hash? More likely these are private large-scale solo mining operations. And they will want to remain private.

I'm not assuming anything.  These may well be large private miners. 

1B... has made payouts that to another address that looks like it could be shares to miners.  But of course could be something different.
For example: https://blockchain.info/address/16ZQhdG45J9KCz27Agpu8uzojo7UuSH1Bi
1B... also seems to have p2pool mined previously when it started.  So not really sure if it's a pool miner or a large miner.
For example: https://blockchain.info/tx/433a63f9b21f78edb0093ff8444ed2379b28553bd3d3093666ae158e4c0ec351
Also solo-mines: https://blockchain.info/tx/2539fb4aa409589538821d588516bbe055249c9989b3466abc5bf98e050f5dd2

1A... has receives payments from ghash (shares?) (i.e. mining with ghash)
For example: https://blockchain.info/tx/0f2fc4a0a6d16658261cab4e65258fc4ef00e193e38186744d404e80f580e43f
It also seems to solo mine: https://blockchain.info/tx/63d11c868002f50122c3cae46970368590b9c4e9cc25ff7faa560e8ea1d8d59d

1A... seems to be closer to GHash than the others as it uses GHash pool from time to time. 


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July 31, 2014, 12:43:30 PM
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August 01, 2014, 12:23:45 AM
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Why are you assuming these are pools with the unknown hash? More likely these are private large-scale solo mining operations. And they will want to remain private.

I'm not assuming anything.  These may well be large private miners. 


Sorry, I should have made it clear that I was replying to the OP's statement about "find out which pools have the unknown hashrate".
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