Israeli think tank suggests raping Arab women to deter suicide bombers

[shogdite]

Right-wing professor: Raping Arab women is ‘the only thing that deters suicide bombers’



http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/22/right-wing-professor-raping-arab-women-is-the-only-thing-that-deters-suicide-bombers/

A professor and researcher for a right-wing Israeli think tank suggested in an interview earlier this month that raping Arab women was the only way to deter suicide bombers.

After Palestinians allegedly abducted and killed three Israeli teens in late June, Bar-Ilan University professor Dr. Mordechai Kedar spoke with a Hebrew-language radio show about what could be done to stop Hamas.

“You have to understand the culture in which we live,” Kedar explained in the June 1 interview, according to a transcript published by Haaretz. “Terrorists like those who kidnapped the children and killed them — the only thing that deters them is if they know that their sister or their mother will be raped in the event that they are caught. What can you do, that’s the culture in which we live.”

Host Yossi Hadar pointed out Israel could not “take such steps.”

“I’m not talking about what we should or shouldn’t do,” Kedar insisted. “I’m talking about the facts. The only thing that deters a suicide bomber is the knowledge that if he pulls the trigger or blows himself up, his sister will be raped.”

“That’s all. That’s the only thing that will bring him back home, in order to preserve his sister’s honor.”

In addition to working for the right-wing Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies of Bar Ilan University, Kedar also founded the Israel Academia Monitor website, which is dedicated to fighting left-leaning “extremist Israeli academics who exploit academic freedom in order to take steps to deny Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state.”

In a statement provided to Haaretz, Bar-Ilan University said that Kedar was not advocating using rape to fight terrorism.

The professor “wanted to illustrate that there is no means of deterring suicide bombers, and using hyperbole, he gave the rape of women as an example,” the statement said. “In order to remove all doubt: Dr. Kedar’s words do not, God forbid, contain a recommendation to commit such despicable acts. The intention was to describe the culture of death of the terror organizations. Dr. Kedar was describing the bitter reality of the Middle East and the inability of a modern and liberal law-abiding country to fight against the terror of suicide bombers.”

A letter to Bar-Ilan University president Rabbi Prof. Daniel Hershkowitz from feminist activists in Israel warned that Kedar could be inciting “Israel Defense Forces soldiers and Israeli civilians to commit rape, and endanger both Israeli and Palestinian women.”

“Kedar’s words echo expressions that treat rape as a remedial practice, although it is a war crime,” the letter noted.

[Starscream]

What a misleading title.

If you'd actually hear the entire interview, when he got to that point, all he wanted to do is illustrate that you can't reason with someone who's unreasonable to begin with.

[Lethn]

What a misleading title.

If you'd actually hear the entire interview, when he got to that point, all he wanted to do is illustrate that you can't reason with someone who's unreasonable to begin with.

I suppose so, this is a common tactic the media use to try and scare people away, I still think it's a bit poorly worded though but then again, when it comes to issues like this there is no way you're not going to offend people if you plan on being honest about a real problem. This kind of thing is why people would much rather see their politicians make racist statements or sleep with somebody who isn't their wives than actually look at important issues, it would be too unsettling for them, holy shit, never thought I'd consider racist comments and adultery 'light' news in this day and age.

[mcculum0010]

Those raping of women will sanctioned by the government of Israel? Does the Americans already do this?

[Rigon]

The man is a nasty fool. His policy would probably have the opposite effect. And after all, a suicide bomber is just a poor man's drone strike. Both equally nasty.

[umair127]

Right-wing professor: Raping Arab women is ‘the only thing that deters suicide bombers’



http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/22/right-wing-professor-raping-arab-women-is-the-only-thing-that-deters-suicide-bombers/

A professor and researcher for a right-wing Israeli think tank suggested in an interview earlier this month that raping Arab women was the only way to deter suicide bombers.

After Palestinians allegedly abducted and killed three Israeli teens in late June, Bar-Ilan University professor Dr. Mordechai Kedar spoke with a Hebrew-language radio show about what could be done to stop Hamas.

“You have to understand the culture in which we live,” Kedar explained in the June 1 interview, according to a transcript published by Haaretz. “Terrorists like those who kidnapped the children and killed them — the only thing that deters them is if they know that their sister or their mother will be raped in the event that they are caught. What can you do, that’s the culture in which we live.”

Host Yossi Hadar pointed out Israel could not “take such steps.”

“I’m not talking about what we should or shouldn’t do,” Kedar insisted. “I’m talking about the facts. The only thing that deters a suicide bomber is the knowledge that if he pulls the trigger or blows himself up, his sister will be raped.”

“That’s all. That’s the only thing that will bring him back home, in order to preserve his sister’s honor.”

In addition to working for the right-wing Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies of Bar Ilan University, Kedar also founded the Israel Academia Monitor website, which is dedicated to fighting left-leaning “extremist Israeli academics who exploit academic freedom in order to take steps to deny Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state.”

In a statement provided to Haaretz, Bar-Ilan University said that Kedar was not advocating using rape to fight terrorism.

The professor “wanted to illustrate that there is no means of deterring suicide bombers, and using hyperbole, he gave the rape of women as an example,” the statement said. “In order to remove all doubt: Dr. Kedar’s words do not, God forbid, contain a recommendation to commit such despicable acts. The intention was to describe the culture of death of the terror organizations. Dr. Kedar was describing the bitter reality of the Middle East and the inability of a modern and liberal law-abiding country to fight against the terror of suicide bombers.”

A letter to Bar-Ilan University president Rabbi Prof. Daniel Hershkowitz from feminist activists in Israel warned that Kedar could be inciting “Israel Defense Forces soldiers and Israeli civilians to commit rape, and endanger both Israeli and Palestinian women.”

“Kedar’s words echo expressions that treat rape as a remedial practice, although it is a war crime,” the letter noted.

So, In order to end the war, the USA/ISREAL Judeo-Christian's should trade guns for virgins, if you can't find any, then start a auction for the least used vaginas. I bet that would do it.

[noviapriani]

So he wants to commit crimes against humanity because rapes don't already happen in war zones and isn't used as tactic of war. Raping women will teach everyone to do as he says. What a horrible example of a human being.

[Lethn]

So he wants to commit crimes against humanity because rapes don't already happen in war zones and isn't used as tactic of war. Raping women will teach everyone to do as he says. What a horrible example of a human being.

You're missing his point entirely, he's saying that suicide bombers will only respond to their family members being raped because they're so bent on killing themselves and their enemy there is no other way to stop them, the news journalist is obviously trying to pretend he's advocating rape.

I believe a similar situation happened with World War 2 where the western world was so convinced that the only way they could stop the Japanese for example was to use the nuclear bomb against them because the Japanese would always fight to the death.

[Honeypot]

Now this is one great way of misleading the audience. Predictably little shits who call themselves educated fall for such a ploy. Apparently they teach you to hear what you want, not what is.

[zolace]

For starters, how does a think tank professor claim to know what has happened to those 3 kidnapped boys when no one else does? Netanyahu started this rumor without proof, still doesn't have proof, and look where it took both sides. Totally irresponsible for someone to say that and then add to his stupid statement about rape. BTW you notice he never declares who it is that will rape the arab sister, jew or arab?

[Wilikon]

One of the many ways to slow down a muslim suicide bomber maybe? Pork-laced bullets, you can now even buy with bitcoins

[Chef Ramsay]

Or, we can just all admit to ourselves that the Middle East has and will always be in the shape it's in and just leave it at that. On our right wing leaning talk shows here they always talk about, "well Israel has to live in such a secluded and unfriendly region" and I'm thinking yeah, no shit. What's new about that? Meanwhile, the US gives approximately $350 million to the Palestinians each year which undoubtedly helps them or Hamas purchase a certain amount of missiles that will be lobbed at Israel. On the flip side of this idiocy, we give Israel untold billions every year over and above the iron dome we gave them and it's like we keep propping this catch 22 and expect things to change. For starters, I say we cut off the foreign aid because certainly Israel is far better off economically then we are considering our massive debt that is probably the laughing stock of the world.

[californiaquail]

One of the many ways to slow down a muslim suicide bomber maybe? Pork-laced bullets, you can now even buy with bitcoins

That's... appetizing:o

[DodoB]

One of the many ways to slow down a muslim suicide bomber maybe? Pork-laced bullets, you can now even buy with bitcoins

 wtf ? why would you even point out their religion ?  do you even know there are christians there getting killed too ?
They both live in an occupied country for half a century, i dont think they give two shit about which or what religion when fighting against and unfair and violent oppression.
If a dudes is ready to kill himself to send a message, don't you think this deserves some consideration at least ? Would you ?

What would be your boiling point ? at what point of desperation would you grow the balls to kill yourself ? I hope you never find out, but when your whole familly gets raped bombed  and humiliated on a daily basis for +50 years that sure is a start.

Getting back at the subject, this guy is a nasty f* : he knows that israelis extremists in the military have done and would do anything to protect their "promise land" and their siblings.

There are maybe 1% Christians there,lol
America is occupied by Europeans aswell,so what?
Yes the Palestinians deserve to be bombed after all the shit theyve done to Israel.

[Wilikon]

One of the many ways to slow down a muslim suicide bomber maybe? Pork-laced bullets, you can now even buy with bitcoins

 wtf ? why would you even point out their religion ?  do you even know there are christians there getting killed too ?
They both live in an occupied country for half a century, i dont think they give two shit about which or what religion when fighting against and unfair and violent oppression.
If a dudes is ready to kill himself to send a message, don't you think this deserves some consideration at least ? Would you ?

What would be your boiling point ? at what point of desperation would you grow the balls to kill yourself ? I hope you never find out, but when your whole familly gets raped bombed  and humiliated on a daily basis for +50 years that sure is a start.

Getting back at the subject, this guy is a nasty f* : he knows that israelis extremists in the military have done and would do anything to protect their "promise land" and their siblings.

If a dudes is ready to kill himself to send a message, don't you think this deserves some consideration at least ? Would you ?

I believe shooting a pork-filled bullet exploding that dude's skull before he triggers his belt in a middle of a schoolyard is a sign of considerable personal attention to his "cause"...
Also if that exploding fashionista was a christian I would also describing him or her or it (exploding donkey) as such...

[Tusk]

Perhaps his time would be better invested in understanding what has driven these suicide bombers to the point of such despair, Its quiet simple its the continued illegal occupation of their land with no real effort on the part of Israel to resolve the problem and neither will they while Israel continues to be funded by the US. Remove the support and Israel will have to negotiate This is how Apartheid in south Africa was overcome.

[Wilikon]

Perhaps his time would be better invested in understanding what has driven these suicide bombers to the point of such despair, Its quiet simple its the continued illegal occupation of their land with no real effort on the part of Israel to resolve the problem and neither will they while Israel continues to be funded by the US. Remove the support and Israel will have to negotiate This is how Apartheid in south Africa was overcome.

Is the Gaza strip still "illegally occupied" by Israel?

[Tusk]

Perhaps his time would be better invested in understanding what has driven these suicide bombers to the point of such despair, Its quiet simple its the continued illegal occupation of their land with no real effort on the part of Israel to resolve the problem and neither will they while Israel continues to be funded by the US. Remove the support and Israel will have to negotiate This is how Apartheid in south Africa was overcome.

Is the Gaza strip still "illegally occupied" by Israel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXRO1YFreNA

[Tusk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t00t9KfqSwU

[BTCmoons]

Israel is the worst of the worst and the US is their biggest ally. Israel has sunken to a comparable level as Nazi Germany imo. I don't understand everyone is crying about Russia so much when Israel is free to commit genocide.

I wouldn't go this far. The think tank just made a suggestion as to how to prevent bombings. They did not say that it would be good to actually do it.