NAMECOIN 2.O + IPO [ICANNDY]

[pinnpe]

[saamxx]

2.O
I prefer 2.Z, more

Is that coin intended for blind people?
Then make the font bigger, please.
OMG it is picture, not text

[Raxe.io]

I think I speak for everyone when I say, we need an easy to use Namecoin. So yes I will be the first holder, do you have VIP positions?

[Tomatocage]

Bitcoin never had an IPO. Neither did the original Namecoin, nor did Litecoin. Why is it that all of a sudden all these new chains now require IPOs?

[ethought]

Bitcoin never had an IPO. Neither did the original Namecoin, nor did Litecoin. Why is it that all of a sudden all these new chains now require IPOs?

Because they are cleverly concealed scams..

[AliceWonder]

I posted an idea for a namecoin fork but it has nothing to do with domain registration, and it looks like your 2.0 doesn't do it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=705244.0

Yours has several problems:

A) Premine

B) Possible registration time way too long - namecoin is too short but 10 years or lifetime, no

C) de-centralized SSL can be done with namecoin and doesn't need to be provided by anyone

D) Wallet client for viewing website? Sounds like a fucking security blunder waiting to happen... KISS

-=-

Your namecoin 2.0 smells like rotten fish.

[testz]

This one would be better than what you offer: http://dotp2p.io

[ProGamer]

As much as I like decentralized domain systems, they will probably stand along side the current system as opposed to destroying it.

[AliceWonder]

This one would be better than what you offer: http://dotp2p.io

It seems at the very bottom to reference bitshares. What is its relation to bitshares?

[Spoetnik]

Bitcoin never had an IPO. Neither did the original Namecoin, nor did Litecoin. Why is it that all of a sudden all these new chains now require IPOs?

qft

[AliceWonder]

As much as I like decentralized domain systems, they will probably stand along side the current system as opposed to destroying it.

Absolutely. ICANN is not going away, and if you want your website to show up in popular search engines, you'll use an ICANN tld.

[pinnpe]

I think I speak for everyone when I say, we need an easy to use Namecoin. So yes I will be the first holder, do you have VIP positions?

Thanks for being openminded that's rare these days. It's not that we are saying no to Namecoin, but things can be done better.
- That's why you can't just register a domainname with our solution (website are also listed by popularity, btw it's not us that decides, the internet does)
- With our solution you can send a domain and enter a price that you ask for it, people can also bid on your domain
- We'll also offer TLDs for far cheaper than Icann
Actually every one using the internet is VIP, with what we propose you can become a shareholder because you are responsible that the system got put up in the first place. We deliberately keep the price low (100 euro per person), because we believe that it's time to start cutting costs. With the options we got you'll get the 100 euro's back within 5 years.

Bitcoin never had an IPO. Neither did the original Namecoin, nor did Litecoin. Why is it that all of a sudden all these new chains now require IPOs?

It's true that Bitcoin never had an IPO, but Satoshi would have had a hardtime convincing every one about this new system. Even I personally skipped Bitcoin when I heard about it, it was after 1 year that I started paying attention. Ethereum by far has the most powerful development team if you ask me. But even they have an IPO right now. The thing is, when you got money you can buy time and put up a better development team to develop a product the right way. The IPO is also to give people the change to invest in something that they believe in. Our shareholder get equity for life, if you think that their 100 euro's investment is a lost, let's talk 5 years later when the system is up and running.

Because they are cleverly concealed scams..

I've been on this forum for about 2 years now, I've never been accused of scamming some one. The people I've worked with will always say you that I've paid what I promised and I got proof of that. Please provide feedback instead of saying something totally clueless. You don't know me and we never did business with eachother. Just because you are saying something without any evidence makes me trust you less, say what you know for 99.9%, don't just say anything to fill up space.

I posted an idea for a namecoin fork but it has nothing to do with domain registration, and it looks like your 2.0 doesn't do it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=705244.0

Yours has several problems:

A) Premine

B) Possible registration time way too long - namecoin is too short but 10 years or lifetime, no

C) de-centralized SSL can be done with namecoin and doesn't need to be provided by anyone

D) Wallet client for viewing website? Sounds like a fucking security blunder waiting to happen... KISS

-=-

Your namecoin 2.0 smells like rotten fish.

With what I propose you could also buy a namespace exclusively and more.... I totally disagree with your ideas about * Age Verification: NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT YOUR AGE, THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT THE CONTENT OF YOUR WALLET. The only reason why the adult content industry is slow with accepting cryptocurrencies, is because these are still the same dinosaurs that had to adapt to their content on the internet. Btw it takes time to wrap your head around cryptocash.

A) Premine, the premine is like a prepaid, if you paid as a fanboy/girl you'll receive coins.
B) The registration time is on purpose so long (for years people have paid high annual prices or for a longer period, but still high prices). Our time and price has a few benefits, now you only have to register once in 10 YEARS, there will also be a checkbox for autorenewal. The price is just because we're sick and tired of people paying loads of money to get a domain online.
C) With our SSL we want to take out Certificate Authorities or Trust Notary (like the convergence.io model).
D) We'll have to see, your wallet will have Google's 2FactorAuthentication (dawn you made me say 1 of the security features, but there are more).

JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING SMELLS LIKE ROTTEN FISH DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T EAT IT. LOL

This one would be better than what you offer: http://dotp2p.io

Do they offer people equity for life?
Do they offer people a guaranteed fixed price (0,02) for domainregistration?
Do they offer people TLDs? I don't mean p2p
Do they offer people a marketplace where they can sell their domainnames (besides name your price/people can bid on your domain with our solution)
Do they even offer people webhosting?

Absolutely. ICANN is not going away, and if you want your website to show up in popular search engines, you'll use an ICANN tld.

We got no problems with Icann they will just do what they do, we'll just do the same but for a lot cheaper
TLD Icann ask $100000 we ask $50000
Domainname Icann (governmental take down) With us only you can take it down

BTW we also don't worry about showing up on a popular search engine. Our domainregistration is cheap and far more secure than those of the old internet. Our solution is specifically for the other 6 billion people out there, the free market will develop a searchengine that can find our websites and they will serve a bigger market than the popular searchengines on the old internet.

[AliceWonder]

I sell porn online to a 12 year kid for bitcoins or whatever and my ass goes to prison and I may even end up on a sex offender registry for the rest of my life.

I care about age verification.

And a lot of these IPOs - if the buyer is not of legal age, technically it may be illegal for you to sell them your coin as an IPO investment. At least in the United States.

[pinnpe]

I sell porn online to a 12 year kid for bitcoins or whatever and my ass goes to prison and I may even end up on a sex offender registry for the rest of my life.

I care about age verification.

And a lot of these IPOs - if the buyer is not of legal age, technically it may be illegal for you to sell them your coin as an IPO investment. At least in the United States.

I assume that when somebody access a porn site they are told "ADULTS ONLY" if they click " ENTER HERE" it's there own responsibility. A Bitcoin transfer doesn't contain info like (age, gender etc) and that's what makes it right. It's parents responsibility to take care of their kids, nobody should have a say in it unless the parent are doing wrong. If a kid of 12YEARs invest in our IPO, I take my hat off to her/him because they are doing way better than I did at that age.

[ethought]

Because they are cleverly concealed scams..

I've been on this forum for about 2 years now, I've never been accused of scamming some one. The people I've worked with will always say you that I've paid what I promised and I got proof of that. Please provide feedback instead of saying something totally clueless. You don't know me and we never did business with eachother. Just because you are saying something without any evidence makes me trust you less, say what you know for 99.9%, don't just say anything to fill up space.

Okay, fair enough, maybe my comment was too harsh and I should have said: "Because they are probably usually cleverly concealed scams..".

I did not mean to say this one definitely is a scam.

Just getting weary of what seems to be becoming an emerging trend, "We will do all this cool stuff, just give us ___ BTC". IPOs that offer nothing first other than a good idea and a list of bullet points are essentially asking for funds (in this case one million euros, not a trivial amount) for just that - an idea and a couple of parameters.

Most investors in my experience will say to you, "You are trying to sell me an idea for one million euros, but you actually have nothing yet - no code. If I really liked the idea why wouldn't I just go and do this myself? You are essentially asking me to invest one million euros in you, and I don't know you."

[AliceWonder]

I sell porn online to a 12 year kid for bitcoins or whatever and my ass goes to prison and I may even end up on a sex offender registry for the rest of my life.

I care about age verification.

And a lot of these IPOs - if the buyer is not of legal age, technically it may be illegal for you to sell them your coin as an IPO investment. At least in the United States.

I assume that when somebody access a porn site they are told "ADULTS ONLY" if they click " ENTER HERE" it's there own responsibility.

click to verify does not alleviate the responsibility of the seller to verify age before distributing explicit content.

For many images it is good enough in that prosecution is rare, but for explicit images showing penetration, and for cam girls it isn't enough.

It is the responsibility of the provider to use adequate means to verify age, just like you can't walk into a bar and "click" to verify you are old enough to buy beer.

[r0ach]

IPOs are all scams because as I've said a billion times before, the IPO creator can make thousands of mule accounts with 1 BTC in them each, send them all to the IPO addresses, get infinite premine/equity, then all the BTC comes back to him anyway.  If you believed you could actually pull this project off, you would just give yourself some kind of equity (premine in other words) for it and not ask for BTC.

[pinnpe]

Okay, fair enough, maybe my comment was too harsh and I should have said: "Because they are probably usually cleverly concealed scams..".

I did not mean to say this one definitely is a scam.

Just getting weary of what seems to be becoming an emerging trend, "We will do all this cool stuff, just give us ___ BTC". IPOs that offer nothing first other than a good idea and a list of bullet points are essentially asking for funds (in this case one million euros, not a trivial amount) for just that - an idea and a couple of parameters.

Most investors in my experience will say to you, "You are trying to sell me an idea for one million euros, but you actually have nothing yet - no code. If I really liked the idea why wouldn't I just go and do this myself? You are essentially asking me to invest one million euros in you, and I don't know you."

I fully agree with you that this is an idea. But Namecoin is allready reality, so what we say is not far from reality. Also with the product that we offer we are looking to give domain names to the other 6 billion people out there. Heck we will even provide TLD to big companies, if you think one million is a lot. Companies are willing to pay Icann $100000 minimum for a TLD and they allready got thousands lined up. The client wallet will come with 2FA by default and there are more security features.

If you like the idea your free to do it yourself we like competition and it's only good. True we are asking a million from people who don't know us and we don't know them. But it's actually about the product and that it's delivered with the improvements that we talk about. Companies/products are not made for free, everything costs money. Developers cost money, even free services cost advertisers money. What we will absolutely NOT do is waste money. The 1 million that people pour into this, is an investment that they will see returns from within 5 YEARS. ABSOLUTELY DON'T PUT YOUR MONEY INTO SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T BELIEVE.

Sure everybody can do what we do, but I bet they won't do it with the same creativity.

[Fernandez]

You won't get far with an IPO with just a post like that. The idea doesn't even sound too appealing. The domain idea which did sound good to me was something which these Bitshares guys came up with. Maybe you can head over there to see if they are interested in funding you, they are rolling in money right now.

[pinnpe]

IPOs are all scams because as I've said a billion times before, the IPO creator can make thousands of mule accounts with 1 BTC in them each, send them all to the IPO addresses, get infinite premine/equity, then all the BTC comes back to him anyway.  If you believed you could actually pull this project off, you would just give yourself some kind of equity (premine in other words) for it and not ask for BTC.

Matter fact we will have a premine, but only the people who prepay for the coin will receive it. The shareholders won't receive any prepaid unless they also donate to receive prepay coins. If everybody had your idea that IPOs are a scam a lot of companies woulden't be in existence today. But I guess that your not an investor, in life everything you do is a gamble. As for scammers, there is always a nice jail cell waiting for them when they think they outsmart people. We're not here to outsmart people, because we know there is always some one who is way smarter. We want to offer people an option besides, Icann or Namecoin.

You won't get far with an IPO with just a post like that. The idea doesn't even sound too appealing. The domain idea which did sound good to me was something which these Bitshares guys came up with. Maybe you can head over there to see if they are interested in funding you, they are rolling in money right now.

We understand that this is not everybody's cup of tea. But can you please specify what is not appealing, this way we can improve it?

click to verify does not alleviate the responsibility of the seller to verify age before distributing explicit content.

For many images it is good enough in that prosecution is rare, but for explicit images showing penetration, and for cam girls it isn't enough.

It is the responsibility of the provider to use adequate means to verify age, just like you can't walk into a bar and "click" to verify you are old enough to buy beer.

AliceWonder the "AGE" topic is for old people, soon with decentralized/censorship proof websites providers can put online whatever they think is suitable. Before you spend time & energy to verify some ones age maybe you should look at:
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-id-verification-streamlined-jumios-bison/