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May 05, 2011, 07:58:02 PM
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!= but ~=

And obviously doesn't matter the kind of fanatic, nobody normally takes violence as a primary mean unless mindless bullies.

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May 05, 2011, 09:33:01 PM
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Strongly agree can mean a lot of stuffs.  It can mean for instance that you feel passionnate about it, and that you could debate during a long time with someone who disagree.  It can mean that you could be willing to put yourself in danger in order to defend this idea.  Or that you could put some money into it.

Gandhi (one of the famous people mentionned as a left libertarian in the politicalcompass website) strongly believed in his principles and yet he was non-violent.

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May 05, 2011, 09:53:20 PM
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I'll give that one under one premise, the options of this test are narrow, misses for an instance "neutral" positions; there're subjects you don't either agree or disagree, you just feel "it's not your business", so you wouldn't have a say about it. By narrowing the options also "strongly agree" could mean "yes, I do believe so very much" to "I would kill if it was otherwise".

Gandhi often went "against himself" in order to contain violence, he took the principle of non-violence high as India at his time was at civil war. But ended up by fractionate India into Pakistan and Bangladesh... maybe at long term it will prove to had been quite an high price to pay.

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May 06, 2011, 03:37:33 AM
 #104

!= but ~=

And obviously doesn't matter the kind of fanatic, nobody normally takes violence as a primary mean unless mindless bullies.

Trust me, I've met plenty of "Centrists" and "Moderates" who are perfectly willing to put a bullet through my head if I don't obey.

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!= but ~=

And obviously doesn't matter the kind of fanatic, nobody normally takes violence as a primary mean unless mindless bullies.

Trust me, I've met plenty of "Centrists" and "Moderates" who are perfectly willing to put a bullet through my head if I don't obey.

I stated that early, on in the middle could still "strongly dis/agree so much" to a single subject that would kill if otherwise. So being in the middle means nothing, however being in the edges means to "strongly dis/agree" to way too much subjects.

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May 06, 2011, 12:22:47 PM
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So being in the middle means nothing, however being in the edges means to "strongly dis/agree" to way too much subjects.
I strongly disagree with your assessment of how many subjects are to many.

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So being in the middle means nothing, however being in the edges means to "strongly dis/agree" to way too much subjects.
I strongly disagree with your assessment of how many subjects are to many.


I weakly agree with a hue of lavender.

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Side speaking, I believe the idea of that "+/-" was to use within market place as a sort of feedback and not to use as sort of "like" button in Facebook for political discussions...  Roll Eyes
Using it here will render it so useless as... well... as the like button on Facebook is.

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May 06, 2011, 07:08:57 PM
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No, the +/- system is a general user feedback tool, not specific to trade. If people like what you have to say and the way you say it, they might give you a plus. Otherwise, they might give you a minus.
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No, the +/- system is a general user feedback tool, not specific to trade. If people like what you have to say and the way you say it, they might give you a plus. Otherwise, they might give you a minus.

In general I give a nill regardless, but may be thinking about it.

Nevertheless it looks like a coercive way to abide by the majority... but what can be expected of anarchists? Their only issue with the state is that they're not in charge  Grin

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No, the +/- system is a general user feedback tool, not specific to trade. If people like what you have to say and the way you say it, they might give you a plus. Otherwise, they might give you a minus.

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The only real standard is a defacto standard.  Let the emergent order decide how +/- should be used.


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No, the +/- system is a general user feedback tool, not specific to trade. If people like what you have to say and the way you say it, they might give you a plus. Otherwise, they might give you a minus.

+1

The only real standard is a defacto standard.  Let the emergent order decide how +/- should be used.

Yeah! Let a DEMOCRATIC measurement utility be used by those who bash Democracy  Grin
Isn't this funny or what?! I guess that's a big nag within Democracy, to be Democracy it has to allow those who opposite to live within.

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May 06, 2011, 08:57:26 PM
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Nevertheless it looks like a coercive way to abide by the majority... but what can be expected of anarchists? Their only issue with the state is that they're not in charge  Grin

Nice trolling.

No, non-imposed emergent standards of how to use +/- is not coercive.  And there is no need to abide by the majority.  High-ranking forum members have decided to grant us the +/- system without invoking majority rule at all.  And if anyone of us don't like this particular forum rules, we are free to. fork ir by downloaing  a backup of the database and uploading it to our own server, and we can feel free to use our own modifed Simple Machines source cods with any plugons we want and can for our own rules and can invite and prohibit whomever we want.


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No, the +/- system is a general user feedback tool, not specific to trade. If people like what you have to say and the way you say it, they might give you a plus. Otherwise, they might give you a minus.

+1

The only real standard is a defacto standard.  Let the emergent order decide how +/- should be used.

Yeah! Let a DEMOCRATIC measurement utility be used by those who bash Democracy  Grin
Isn't this funny or what?! I guess that's a big nag within Democracy, to be Democracy it has to allow those who opposite to live within.

That doesn't even make sense.  What do you mean by democratic meausrement utility?

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No, the +/- system is a general user feedback tool, not specific to trade. If people like what you have to say and the way you say it, they might give you a plus. Otherwise, they might give you a minus.

+1

The only real standard is a defacto standard.  Let the emergent order decide how +/- should be used.

Yeah! Let a DEMOCRATIC measurement utility be used by those who bash Democracy  Grin
Isn't this funny or what?! I guess that's a big nag within Democracy, to be Democracy it has to allow those who opposite to live within.

That doesn't even make sense.  What do you mean by democratic meausrement utility?

"Democracy sucks"... Let's vote (because that +/- is a voting system, something that is used normally for Democracy, it measures the will of the majority over an issue/point of view).

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"Democracy sucks"... Let's vote (because that +/- is a voting system, something that is used normally for Democracy, it measures the will of the majority over an issue/point of view).

Democracy sucks because in the end, you're forced to do what the majority says or else you will be killed.

This is not democracy, this is reputation tool, like reddit's karma or slashdot's moderation.
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"Democracy sucks"... Let's vote (because that +/- is a voting system, something that is used normally for Democracy, it measures the will of the majority over an issue/point of view).

Democracy sucks because in the end, you're forced to do what the majority says or else you will be killed.

This is not democracy, this is reputation tool, like reddit's karma or slashdot's moderation.

+1

Yeah, BCEmpouriem.  +/- rating system are tools of those damn evil anarcho-capitalists!  How could you participate in such an undemocratic system?

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Democracy sucks because in the end, you're forced to do what the majority says or else you will be killed.

It's NOT Democracy that goes around that "abide or be killed/arrested", it's the Government, they're different things.
You got the very same "abide or else..." action within almost all other forms of State, Dictatorships use it even more lightly.

Democracy is just the way issues are addressed and bodies are elected not how to deal with those who don't comply.

BTW, this so called "reputation" systems remembers me why many people complaint of BS on Democracy, it's not "just" politicians fault, it's the people's fault as well, people love to be BS'ed. Like if I come here, just say what you guys want to hear, regardless I would do it or even think on such way, and see my "rep." rocketing... a bit like the votes in a regular democracy.  Grin

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May 06, 2011, 09:17:51 PM
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Democracy sucks because in the end, you're forced to do what the majority says or else you will be killed.

It's NOT Democracy that goes around that "abide or be killed/arrested", it's the Government, they're different things.
You got the very same "abide or else..." action within almost all other forms of State, Dictatorships use it even more lightly.

Democracy is just the way issues are addressed and bodies are elected not how to deal with those who don't comply.

Well I'm ofcourse not opposed to voluntary Democracy.

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May 06, 2011, 09:46:08 PM
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vague questions and not the best test imho

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